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TSR: In Ur Accounts, Deletin Ur Stuffs!
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Topic: TSR: In Ur Accounts, Deletin Ur Stuffs! (Read 830003 times)
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Re: TSR: In Ur Accounts, Deletin Ur Stuffs!
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2009 April 12, 22:12:03 »
Fangirls Bibi while digging thru old CD's to find pics off all her gorgeous Sims 1 stuff...
I really miss the old days on your forum, especially that wicked, wicked humor of yours!
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2009 April 12, 22:27:39 »
I remember having your stuff in my game too Bibi. I just lurked in the community way back then. Loved your stuff though, I remember lurking on your forum too.
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Re: TSR: In Ur Accounts, Deletin Ur Stuffs!
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2009 April 12, 22:44:52 »
I used to use your stuff alot in my game too, was always so lovely.
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Re: TSR: In Ur Accounts, Deletin Ur Stuffs!
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2009 April 13, 01:01:12 »
Quote from: Delphy
You can see that the same person with the same browser
string as the attacker on MTS2 and TSR (since they where
attacked too), logged into your account on at least 3
separate occasions. No doubt during one of these your
password was reset.
How can he be sure it was done during those logins? Also, how can he be sure the ip and browserstring wasn't just planted there, and the password reset afterwards? When is the last time Wedgewoodblues logged in? Could it be that they just picked a rather inactive account so the owner couldn't be sure when the password was actually reset? Or is it in the logs that the password was changed a certain date?
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Re: TSR: In Ur Accounts, Deletin Ur Stuffs!
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2009 April 13, 02:26:28 »
Quote from: Anouk on 2009 April 13, 01:01:12
Quote from: Delphy
You can see that the same person with the same browser
string as the attacker on MTS2 and TSR (since they where
attacked too), logged into your account on at least 3
separate occasions. No doubt during one of these your
password was reset.
How can he be sure it was done during those logins? Also, how can he be sure the ip and browserstring wasn't just planted there, and the password reset afterwards? When is the last time Wedgewoodblues logged in? Could it be that they just picked a rather inactive account so the owner couldn't be sure when the password was actually reset? Or is it in the logs that the password was changed a certain date?
I pm'd Delphy for the information, if he could get it. I know my account was hacked because for a few days I could not log into it at all. Their response (TSR) to me was that my account did not exist, but I knew that was wrong. At no time did TSR ever inform me that my account had been hacked, not when it happened, nor when it was exposed.
They didn't pick an inactive account, which is how I know when this happened. I checked Delphy's information against the time this happened to me, and the dates are exact.
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Re: TSR: In Ur Accounts, Deletin Ur Stuffs!
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Reply #1190 on:
2009 April 13, 03:53:57 »
Yes TSR is lying again (as always) but do you know of anyone who would want to annoy/attack you? You have proven that it's not just 'a few FA and staff accounts' that have been compromised.
If TSR had all or alot of user's account details stolen and those were sold to criminals, then wow. And yes that does happen, alot. TSR is a goldmine for people like that.
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2009 April 13, 04:06:01 »
Wedgewoodblue
Send this info to Coconut. Proof that TSR lied about just FA accounts being hacked would be good to have up there.
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Re: TSR: In Ur Accounts, Deletin Ur Stuffs!
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Reply #1192 on:
2009 April 13, 05:09:50 »
No matter how you look at it, this is strange,
assuming the information was not planted:
- There's no motive for a hacker that's simply out to get user's personal information to login to a random account and change the password. Why would they bother?
- There's no motive for a hacker that really hates TSR and is hacking communties to make TSR look bad, to pick random TSR accounts to login to and compromise, except if they wanted someone to find out that TSR's security is shit. Also, WedgewoodBlue's account shouldn't be the only random account logged into and changed, to have a bigger chance of people finding out and bringing it out into the open.To be able to use that fact to embarass TSR months later would need alot of anticipation and planning on their part.
- There's no motive for TSR to use an ip with the same browser string as the hacker of simsecret to login to a random account like that, unless they want to make TSR's security look like shit on purpose later on, to use as an excuse for things they want to do/have been doing. If this is the case, there should be more instances of this happening. They would have to had counted on some of these people to notice and complain. This would also need alot of anticipation and planning on their part.
So what is more likely? Either way you look at it, someone has done some very elaborate planning to get some henious shit done.
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Re: TSR: In Ur Accounts, Deletin Ur Stuffs!
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Reply #1193 on:
2009 April 13, 07:40:23 »
How possible is it that the non FA accounts that were hacked were for people who wouldn't kick up a fuss ie suspected pirates? Usually if they get a notice that their account does not exist they assume they have been banned. Didn't it mention somewhere that they could keep track of people who went there by clicking links from here? On 21st feb I followed two links from here one for windkeeper and I can't remember the other but both times a connection was attempted to my computer as soon as I got to TSR.
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Re: TSR: In Ur Accounts, Deletin Ur Stuffs!
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2009 April 13, 07:43:12 »
Quote from: Quinctia on 2009 April 12, 17:43:26
Unfortunately, I'm betting Delphy offered way more information than he should have.
That is what the information I've seen indicates, yes. Delphy basically said too much, and TSR was able to take what he had given them and spit out some more things to play into that. Not to mention TSR already knew what he had to begin with. Because Delphy provided that much information to the public, it became clear as to how TSR could spin this and who they could pin the blame on.
Quote from: Quinctia on 2009 April 12, 17:43:26
What has ruled out the explanation that the same person at TSR who accessed Buggybooz and Thomas's accounts at MTS2 just used the same proxy whilst wandering about TSR's completely browseable, unencrypted userfiles
Or maybe that Thomas was the one who provided the information, which, frankly, is a far simpler explanation than postulating the existence of a nefarious third party.
Quote from: Quinctia on 2009 April 12, 17:43:26
Like one would put a coat on to go outside if it were cold regardless of the destination, they proxy up before doing shady shit, regardless of what site they're fucking with?
Well, I do that, because I know exactly what information sites can collect.
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Re: TSR: In Ur Accounts, Deletin Ur Stuffs!
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Reply #1195 on:
2009 April 13, 22:32:17 »
As Nouk said, there's no reason for a hacker to go into WedgewoodBlue's account without an ulterior motive. TSR is using tactics that used to be considered appropriate at /i/ boards, which is just inappropriate for a business.
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2009 April 13, 23:19:37 »
Quote from: Nietzsche on 2009 April 13, 22:32:17
As Nouk said, there's no reason for a hacker to go into WedgewoodBlue's account without an ulterior motive. TSR is using tactics that used to be considered appropriate at /i/ boards, which is just inappropriate for a business.
TSR is using these tactics ineptly, at that. That's the sad thing. I know they're guilty of it because I know these sorts of tactics. TSR's implementation of them is amateurish and inept, exactly the kind of thing you'd expect from people who have no idea what they're doing.
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Re: TSR: In Ur Accounts, Deletin Ur Stuffs!
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Reply #1197 on:
2009 April 14, 00:18:09 »
I don't know if anyone has posted this, but I found it interesting - especially since Anoeska said it TWO YEARS AGO:
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Re: TSR: In Ur Accounts, Deletin Ur Stuffs!
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2009 April 14, 01:44:11 »
Quote from: Pescado on 2009 April 13, 23:19:37
Quote from: Nietzsche on 2009 April 13, 22:32:17
As Nouk said, there's no reason for a hacker to go into WedgewoodBlue's account without an ulterior motive. TSR is using tactics that used to be considered appropriate at /i/ boards, which is just inappropriate for a business.
TSR is using these tactics ineptly, at that. That's the sad thing. I know they're guilty of it because I know these sorts of tactics. TSR's implementation of them is amateurish and inept, exactly the kind of thing you'd expect from people who have no idea what they're doing.
The first thing that you always learn is to use popular free proxies so then you're harder to find. Gawd, I'd think that Thoma$$ would do his research.
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Re: TSR: In Ur Accounts, Deletin Ur Stuffs!
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2009 April 14, 02:22:04 »
Quote from: Nietzsche on 2009 April 14, 01:44:11
The first thing that you always learn is to use popular free proxies so then you're harder to find. Gawd, I'd think that Thoma$$ would do his research.
Popular free proxies tend to be cripplingly obnoxious. I just yank proxies off the Internet or use jackboxen.
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