TSR: In Ur Accounts, Deletin Ur Stuffs!

[SoggyFox]

Good grief - I wish I had the -time- to do something that nasty, if I did I could use it to do something useful instead, like learn how to mesh for sims 3, or end world hunger.

And yes, The Pirate Bay is still in Sweden - the big problem is, the RIAA has a ton of money to throw at something while we don't have much.  Granted, Sweden has a reputation of being reasonable and fair, but everyone can have bad apples [*looks in the general direction of Thoma$$ and co.]

[Lady Vader]

True, SoggyFox, but you see, The Pirate Bay case was all about copyright and that's an absolutely different story than cybercrimes. Cybercrimes aren't a pay-to-sue offence, they're criminal, they get pursued by simply being done. Federal authorities take care of it, you don't have to pay a cent. You weren't be sueing them through a lawyer, the charges after having sufficient evidence gathered, would be pressed by a prosecutor.

So maybe it's finally time, to take all the trash we have gathered on TSR from our safes and use it? Doesn't cost anything and the effects might bring so much joy...

[Lock]

True, SoggyFox, but you see, The Pirate Bay case was all about copyright and that's an absolutely different story than cybercrimes. Cybercrimes aren't a pay-to-sue offence, they're criminal, they get pursued by simply being done. Federal authorities take care of it, you don't have to pay a cent. You weren't be sueing them through a lawyer, the charges after having sufficient evidence gathered, would be pressed by a prosecutor.

So maybe it's finally time, to take all the trash we have gathered on TSR from our safes and use it? Doesn't cost anything and the effects might bring so much joy...

I thought that if a criminal suit failed, the affected parties could try a civil suit? Pardon me if that's irrelevant.

[Missbonbon]

True, SoggyFox, but you see, The Pirate Bay case was all about copyright and that's an absolutely different story than cybercrimes. Cybercrimes aren't a pay-to-sue offence, they're criminal, they get pursued by simply being done. Federal authorities take care of it, you don't have to pay a cent. You weren't be sueing them through a lawyer, the charges after having sufficient evidence gathered, would be pressed by a prosecutor.

So maybe it's finally time, to take all the trash we have gathered on TSR from our safes and use it? Doesn't cost anything and the effects might bring so much joy...

I thought that if a criminal suit failed, the affected parties could try a civil suit? Pardon me if that's irrelevant.

Nope. The owners of the Pirate Bay were sentenced to one year in jail, and pay a very large sum of money. That was the first suit against them to actually stick to them, because there were tons of lawsuits against them, but they always got out of it. Last I read someone over in Sweden was going to purchase the Pirate Bay and make it a pay service.

[Myriam]

Holy shit...I've been away far too long.  I'm still on page six and reading.

[Missbonbon]

Just out of curiosity, does this TSR pattern look an awful lot like this same apple pattern on MTS, with just the hues adjusted? Is there anyway we could open them up to check an similarities?

[SoggyFox]

It does, but doesn't necessarily mean anything - most patterns I think are done using tileable textures online.  Also, the one looks slightly larger than the other to me.

[rum nate]

Its hard to tell looking at the pictures. Looking at the pictures alone it looks like the TSR one is based off of the MTS one, with some edits, such as leaves added to some apples that didn't have them and leaves taken off apples that had them, and the pattern changed. But I would have to see both of them in game to see for sure.

As for opening them up, the only way I know of would be to look at the image in a program that makes patterns, such as Delphy's or TSR's workshop, or look at them side by side in game. Other then that, I don't know any way to check. There may be a way, because I'm not really in the know that much about what tools are out there and what all they can do.

[CatOfWar]

We could ask Purplepaws if she handpainted the apples or used a tiling pattern she found online.  If she handpainted, then the TSR pattern is most likely a ripoff.

edit: From Purplepaws' thread
"The other three I had to make seamless myself and then retrace for the highest quality possible."
So it's at least partly hand-made, if not wholly.

[HugeLunatic]

I've noticed other by patterns by Apple that look like ripoffs too a few weeks ago. 

[SoggyFox]

Oh, I'll admit that making a pattern from an existing texture is a right pain in the arse.  I'm just saying that its hard to say in this case.  However, if it looks like the TSR person has used other textures from people as well....

My newer patterns were all hand painted, its just I've not had to the time to resubmit them or anything - not even really play the game.  Besides, I'm far more interested in meshing when I do get the time.

[CatOfWar]

Here's what Purplepaws had to say, after looking at both patterns.

"Well, I took a look at their pattern, and though it's very similar, there are enough differences in it to lead me to believe they just used the same source image. Mine's a bit more horizontally stretched, for one thing. And though we both made use of four color palettes, they appear to have assigned them differently (two colors for the apples and one for the stems, whereas I kept the stem color static to make room for the third apple color)."

[Dr House]

Just out of curiosity, does this TSR pattern look an awful lot like this same apple pattern on MTS, with just the hues adjusted? Is there anyway we could open them up to check an similarities?

It seems rather common, here's what I found on simcredible designs:

Link: http://sims3.simcredibledesigns.com/dl/htmlspatts/patts1.html

[Missbonbon]

I'm glad that purplepaws had a chance to look and rule out theft. I just wasn't sure since they did look different, but also a little too similar.

Just out of curiosity, does this TSR pattern look an awful lot like this same apple pattern on MTS, with just the hues adjusted? Is there anyway we could open them up to check an similarities?

It seems rather common, here's what I found on simcredible designs:
*snip*
Link: http://sims3.simcredibledesigns.com/dl/htmlspatts/patts1.html

Ohh I like that pattern! Thanks for pointing it out.

[Zillah]

It's a current quilting fabric pattern
http://warmbiscuit.com/green-blue-apples-fabric.html
I've used variants of it myself.
http://www.naturalsims.com/sims2/previews/zdresses2.jpg