No, the photoshopped ruffles on the buttnom dress.  That I can't see now.  It's around here somewhere, I just can't find it at the moment.

Is the ruffle thing a scarf???  Confuzzled Cat is confuzzled.

Pssst.  We usually don't praise TSR stuff, regardless of what we might think if it were free.  Just sayin'
Not everyone will always agree about what's ugly, understandable.  That chair does bother me though.  The back looks uncomfy and that crackle paint texture, wouldn't it flake off when you sit, unless it's lacquered?  I will grant that it's not nearly as bad as much of TSR's fug, but still.  Meh.

Do feel free to say nice things about 37sims if you like anything there though, they just went free.

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Nope.  No point at all to recoloring existing clothing and uploading it.  It's rather like Dot's bucketfill pattern, pointless.

*huggles JWong's adorable avie*

ShanOw - What can the rest of us do to spread the word about this search list?  I'm wondering where to post about it where lots of people will see it, without being too "in your face" about it.  Do you have small link banners for the list?

I asked.  Here's Delphy's advice on supporting a site financially.

- Don't rely on one method.  He recommens Adsense, a Paypal donation button, and Amazon store.
- Don't expect much from Amazon.  It starts at 2-4%, goes up with more sales.  MTS gets about 6%, but that's still only about a "tenner a month", according to Delphy.  So don't rely on Amazon.
- Have a PayPal button, but don't pimp the hell out of it, that annoys people.
- If you can get about 5 people donating monthly, regularly, that usually pays for standard web hosting
- Have a donation meter.  Meters encourage people to donate, and they like to see them.

So now if someone asks, I have something more to say than "Erm, I don't know".

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HP had this very helpful suggestion.

- Offer pictures of your naked ass for money.

And I would add this.

- Threaten to post pictures of your ugly ass if you don't get money.

edit: Ninja'd!  I should really check recent posts before hitting submit.

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It's an issue of time and effort, not just site purpose.  Do you have a quick and easy way to do this?  I've spent weeks categorizing stuff at MTS, and that was with a simple easy to use checkbox system already in place.  Only got a fraction of it done, there was a whole team of us working on it.  We don't have checkboxes and content filters here.  Would you have someone go through 120+ pages and move each post to an appropriate subthread?  Or label all the posts with keywords?  Maybe you're thinking of only doing this with new finds posts, which would be more reasonable.  But you'd have to get everyone to post in the correct subthread or use the right keywords or whatever.  There are existing finds sites that already do what you're looking for.

As I see it, the finds thread here is for directing people to great free sites they might not have known about.  It doesn't have to be organized and searchable to do that, the 3 or 4 most recent posts can accomplish its purpose.

The new finds thread is meant more for regular readers who check it frequently.  There are free finds sites that are more organized and easier to browse.  Try the one linked in my sig, or the finds at MTS, or the many others out there.  PMBD aims to destroy paysites, and promoting free sites is one way to do that, but we promote by directing people to free sites, not by becoming a free finds or free content site.  Categorizing the finds thread would take time better spent on more piraty activities.  We leave running a finds site or content site to finds and content sites.


There's a reason for that.  There are already existing threads for ongoing discussion about TSR asshattery, paysite fug, free site goodies, and other PMBD "main focus" topics.  For questions, we have Ask A Pirate.  We have an introductions thread, a thank you thread, and then there's Sharkbait.  Many new threads are about stuff already covered by existing threads.  Many new threads are questions from people who didn't bother to read the FAQ.  Lots are "I want my TSR shinies!  I want my EA Store stuff!" type nonsense.  That's why regulars don't like new threads.  However, sometimes someone has a legitimate reason to start a new thread about a topic, and that is permitted, and does happen, it's just rare compared to all the junk new threads.


Those two things seem a bit contradictory.  Not that I'm that offended or find it that mean or nasty, but I wouldn't classify it as exactly civil.  I'm totally behind your second statement.

Great!  Maybe in the grand scheme of things, it's just one site, but hey, I'm going to be happy about.  Every little bit of hope is a bit of hope.  I would have thanked the site owner, but can't find a contact button.

Is it too early to find something there that might be finds list worthy?  I can thank them by promoting them now that they are free, if I find stuff I like.  Just want to make sure they stay free.

dstar, thanks for updating and organising the list.  Have a cat shaped cookie soaked in coconut flavored rum.

I would like to see some of these anon people posting here on PMBD (*).   Not just because it's a more appropriate forum for it, not just because anon posts are hard to take seriously.  There has been civil discussion here.  There are folks here who share some of their views.  If they want more of that, then why not come here and be the change they want to see?  I've had disagreements here with people who have very different views from mine and feel very strongly about them.  Didn't make me dislike anyone or want to leave the forum.  Granted, no one here's ever been really nasty to me.  If that's what happened to some of those people, I do sympathize.  However, if someone gets nasty, they don't have to reply in kind, or even reply at all.  Takes two to forum fight.  And why let some stranger, far away, who can only type at you, stop you from expressing an opinion?

(*) for all the reasons stated above, and also because I actually went to the silly site to see the full version of a post referenced here.  Nothing on SimSecrets showed up for me except an image or two, and I'm not going to get LJ just to read SimSecrets once.

Wow, lookit, a link a few posts up!  Blind Cat is blind.  I should cat macro myself or something.


Well then!  Let's go through FA uploads and see if we can find Britney riding a whip or something similar.  And direct Thoma$$ to the More Smutty thread.
edit: Miss CheekPeek from that thread needs to be brought to Thomas' attention.

No answer from him about the penis dress, and it is still up.

Hurray!  I'm dying of curiousity about what Thoma$$ replied to that.  Link to the thread, please?

The FOJ has given permission to move the free site list to ARR and sticky it.  He thinks it is redundant, unnecessary, and he doesn't want to maintain it, but he's given permission.  So I'll go ask Ash how one goes about moving a thread...

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Anyone know how effective the "prettiest free site finds" thread is?  Do new people look at it?  It serves a very similar purpose.  I think "prettiest" and "site list" are different enough in purpose to warrant two threads, I'm just curious how well "prettiest" works.  If it's just a place for us to find new nifty, that's great, but if it was effective outreach, that would be even better.

I've put a link to dstar's Free Sims Finds in my sig.  Now when I post booty updates, that link will be there too for folks to see.  If folks think this is a good idea, I could see if Ash wants to do that too.