TSR: In Ur Accounts, Deletin Ur Stuffs!

[SnarkyShark]

As for Inge, she’s evidently talking about past incidents and whatever Thomas said to her doesn’t have anything to do with this incident. It would still be interesting to find out how much Thomas knew about the list – if only to determine if it’s only Atwa ending up in the slammer for this, or if Thomas is going with her.

Unless I am misreading it-

Yes, the situation arose from the fact that there was technical collaboration on the creation of modding tools, which has already been discussed, and I spent quite a bit of time in a chat room that included such people as Delphy, HP, Tiger (of the hood editor) Johan, Pommes, Murano and Thomas of TSR among others.

- That is a reference to the collaboration between mods for Sims 3 tools, which Inge discussed (not all that long ago) both here and at maty. It just makes sense that she's referring to recent events as she's made her statements in thread about TSR's latest act of information sharing.

But now I am worried. By what she said, if she's not shit stirring then that means that Thomas has been trying to wiggle his way into the community via those programmers. Why has none of those programmers come forward with that?

Inge made it clear that Thomas pmed her through MSN, so it's possible no else knew.

[Missbonbon]

But now I am worried. By what she said, if she's not shit stirring then that means that Thomas has been trying to wiggle his way into the community via those programmers. Why has none of those programmers come forward with that?

Inge made it clear that Thomas pmed her through MSN, so it's possible no else knew.

Yes that, I guess I should clarify that I am rather curious to know how many other people have been involved with Thomas's mind games? Was it only Inge he has spoken to or has it been other people? And if it's been other people, how many people have played into those games? I commend Inge for standing up for herself. I'm just curious as to how many didn't. Not like there's anything they could tell TSR that Thomas can't find out for himself, but I'm more or less curious as to how deep his level of contacts and grown, and in what ways are they helping him.

[Moune]

the petition was apparently also vandalized, and therefore, the intrusion was detected because the attacker had damaged the functioning of the petition, rendering it inoperable, either intentionally, or as a side effect of being incompetent.

Either way that hacker must have been immensely stupid. If the intention was to gain information about who is against TSR, they could have just sat quietly back and watched the names and email addresses pile up without anyone noticing. Oh well, stupidity, another arrow pointing towards TSR I guess.

Snarky, I’m not sure if we’re actually saying the same thing. The chat between Inge and Thomas took place weeks or months ago and the information sharing Inge referred to must have been the earlier ones. This latest ‘petition scandal’ only broke a few days ago, so they couldn’t have been talking about that. In other words: What Thomas said to Inge is not an admission that he knew about the petition list and that he found it okay to share it.

[Scurvy Cat]

Does anyone put any credibility in the statement by Thomas paraphrased on coconut's blog to the effect that EA gave them the information from the petition when it was sent to them?

'Cause I suspect that violates about a bazillion policies at the petition site.

At this point I think complaining to the petition site is the best thing to do anyway.  I mean it's their wallet that's getting hurt if it gets around on the web that petition signers personal info can get stolen.

[SnarkyShark]

Snarky, I’m not sure if we’re actually saying the same thing. The chat between Inge and Thomas took place weeks or months ago and the information sharing Inge referred to must have been the earlier ones. This latest ‘petition scandal’ only broke a few days ago, so they couldn’t have been talking about that. In other words: What Thomas said to Inge is not an admission that he knew about the petition list and that he found it okay to share it.

You could be right. -  Still, his admission shows that he has no qualms about sharing people's information if he perceives that it's in his best interest.

[Witchboy]

Her name is INGE, by the way. Not Igne.

Inge, Igne, Same smell different day

[Moune]

Does anyone put any credibility in the statement by Thomas paraphrased on coconut's blog to the effect that EA gave them the information from the petition when it was sent to them?

No. And if Thomas was contemplating using that as excuse it must have given Steve an urgent reason to step in and shut him up. They wouldn’t want to piss EA off by implicating them in this mess.

Besides, I think somebody mentioned that the petition was never sent to EA. If it was vandalized that seems quite likely.

his admission shows that he has no qualms about sharing people's information if he perceives that it's in his best interest.

Oh, THAT is beyond debate. The guy is an absolute scumbag!

Inge, Igne, Same smell different day

Okay, Bitchwoy.

[KiwiJaye]

HP closed the thread at modthesims that was discussing TSR and the list. Her reasons were pretty "meh" to me, but this stood out:

"False or misrepresented info has been posted up there before. If you're in the business of drama, it's not exactly a leap of imagination to think someone like that might occasionally make up some stuff to keep people interested - and if you lie once, everything else has doubt cast on it."

When was Coconut found to be posting false or misrepresented stuff?

[Witchboy]

Okay, Bitchwoy.

When was Coconut found to be posting false or misrepresented stuff?

As far as i know never.

Posted by HP at MTS
A bit of critical thinking about the logic of putting together such a list - when real names and emails are really of -very- limited usefulness (what are they gonna do, sign you up for midget porn? find you on Facebook and spam you?) - really would go a long way. I'm not saying "this is totally a fake, no question" but "what proof do we have that it's real"?

Well yes HP alot of us who were hacked were spammed with porn on our facebook & photobucket accounts. Those were not the only 2 online accounts that i had that were hacked. My ao hell e-mail, mediafryer & amazon.com accounts were hacked into as well. And speaking of spam, i am now receiving in the mail (e-mail & my actual home address mail) baby crap. Coupons for baby goods, samples of baby food & formula etc. I didn't sign up to receive any of this crap but i find it in my mail box every week or so now.

Anyone want a few sample cans of Enfamil? I've got um sittin right here on my desk as we speak LOL

If your reading this HP, the proof is that it all came from Blue Soups hacked petition & that info is now in the hands of TSR. It only takes putting 2 & 2 together to figure out they were the ones who hacked into the petition to acquire the info.

[Fran]

I believe Coconut has not lied to us about this entire chain of incidents-mostly because she herself was hacked by TSR not that long ago-her IP was contacted (I forget the reason) and her site was shut down on the word of people who have not yet been identified-but it's a good guess that it was Thomass and his scurvy henchwomen spreading lies about her.
That's how she ended up on Pescado's server. She had nowhere else to go without Thomass trying his best to eliminate her from his world view. She's also an insider at TSR. Why would she lie about the place she lives at? It serves no purpose.
Payback's a bitch.

[Henbane]

Coconut has never lied to us.

However, Bluesoup has lied many times, among other worse things. After she announced the petition was "hacked", she was strangely complacent in her reaction. To paraphrase, it was more of, "I'm so so tired of this, I just don't care." She also didn't care that real names and emails were had. She advertised that petition far and wide, asked all and sundry to sign, and then "didn't care" when it got to the hard place.

And now she's souped again, as is her wont.

Everytime Bluesoup reappears in the community, I grit my teeth. What drama is next?

Whether Atwat has the brains to "hack" a petition site or not is moot to me. She doesn't. She's a wannabe, the entire idea is ridiculous. I'd be looking more toward someone that is just handing out the information, perhaps. She's certainly done worse.

*Edited for clarification.

[WedgewoodBlue]

  This is what happens when you take a break in order to handle situations that crop up in RL. I had no idea there was a petition (thank heavens) so lucky for me I didn't sign it. I would however be terribly upset to find out that my personal information was released in the manner that others have been.
Now to clarify, I have not purchased Sims3, nor do I have plans to in the future. (not that this has anything to do with this situation being discussed) For me, it is simply because I do not want to support a company that produces an inferior product, and then never does a thing to protect their customers. When it became apparent to me that EA was no longer using condoms before they jumped into bed with TSR, I decided to simply stick with Sims2.
I don't have any technical knowledge about hacking and stuff like that, so I don't have a clue as to how people can find out who you are on the net, if you never use your real name. I do know that if my name and other personal information was on that list, I would probably disconnect myself from the internet, probably forever.
I am so sorry for those of you who have been maligned on that list, and I do hope that at some point in time you can actually have some kind of recourse.

[MamaKitty]

WB just turn the bad Karma they think they've dumped on you trying to to say you were a baby into good Karma for yourself.   Baby food and formula are some of the items in shortest supply at food pantrys, and some of the most needed, donate the baby goods to your local one.

[Witchboy]

WB just turn the bad Karma they think they've dumped on you trying to to say you were a baby into good Karma for yourself.   Baby food and formula are some of the items in shortest supply at food pantrys, and some of the most needed, donate the baby goods to your local one.

You know i didn't think of that. I think i'll drop it off at the community food bank in studio city on my way to work friday. Thank You MamaKitty!

[SoggyFox]

Well, knowing where the list came from tells me which of two emails it could be.  I never even give EA my home address, so there was no reason to put that in to the petition.  I don't use my legal name in anything online except to register MMOs, because I simply just don't like it.

I'm not worried about the info they have.

However, I am pissed off - pissed off for those who did get burned, who do still use their legal names, who did put in their addresses or whatever.  I'm pissed off that even with all that TSR has done, there are still otherwise reasonable seeming people who refuse to see the facts in front of their faces.  That when it comes down to it, Thoma$$ is slimy enough to slide out of all the stuff he does.

And maybe what Atwat has on him is that she knows he's ultimately behind this crap, or even the knowledge it isn't even really him, but someone pulling his strings too.