TSR: In Ur Accounts, Deletin Ur Stuffs!

[Pescado]

Well, I could make whack-a-12 into a minigame, so that 12s can be shot on sight by any user, not just an admin, and the game will keep track of how many 12s you've shot.

[Eskimo Pie]

Can we use the same point system that we use when we try to run over them with a car???

[dstar]

Can we dump giant stacks of Hannah Montana CD's on them?  (admittedly they are not all bad- my niece is twelve and she is a mature kid for her age- but she is a bit of a anime/scifi/computer nerd which balances out the 12'ness)

[WedgewoodBlue]

I'm not sure just how helpful this is, but....I found out that my account at TSR was also hacked into, once on the 9th of January and twice on the 2nd of February.


From Delphy: 
You can see that the same person with the same browser
string as the attacker on MTS2 and TSR (since they where
attacked too), logged into your account on at least 3
separate occasions. No doubt during one of these your
password was reset.

He provided me with this information after I pm'd him with my concerns. I haven't included the info he sent me as I don't know if that could be used to identify me at TSR.
He showed me the login stuffs.
However at NO time was I ever contacted by TSR to say my account had been compromised. What Delpy provided me with is proof that TSR does indeed lie without thought as to how their subscriber base is affected. I am NOT a submitter, nor creator of anything Sims2 related. I am merely a player of the game. Yet TSR claims that only a handful of accounts were affected and that they were FA accounts, if I recall correctly.

I have gone in and changed my password, but I am wondering if my account can still be accessed to hackers to use to cause further damage???

[justso]

So the "hacking" didn't just happen to FA accounts. By the sounds of it all accounts were vulnerable, but I think we all knew that anyway.  How many lies can people stomach before they turn away from that site.  I am still not convinced that TSR was hacked. I guess that may be something we will never know.

[dstar]

At this point I would simply assume that anything Thomas and TSR say about the safety and security of their site is a lie- or a cover up-
" Thomas Says a Security Breach Happened." " Thomas Says they are Encrypting Peoples Information" Everything he has said thus far has been untruthful- so unless he demonstrates proof that passwords and personal information are now encrypted I would simply assume that your personal information in your TSR account is not safe changed password or no changed password-


After all the arse couldn't be bothered to inform most TSR members that the security of the site had been breached why should he start being careful with private info now? (e.g when your site is hacked you don't just inform the holders of the accounts you " THINK" were hacked you inform everyone that their information may have been revealed so that passwords can be changed etc - like Delphy did when Buggybooz account was hacked- not ignore it and hope it will go way (if it really happened at all) and only tell the FA's cause you deem their credit card and paypal info more valuable than everyone elses personal info.

[WedgewoodBlue]

Unfortunately I do not understand all the technical stuff when it comes to computers and the internet. What bothers me about it is that I have no idea what this hacker did with my account while he/she had access.

The fact that I was never contacted by TSR infuriates me. Obviously they have been taking classes form EA on how to disregard your customer base. I worry about what the hacker got from my account.

[Moune]

WedgewoodBlue, just out of curiosity, how did you find out that your TSR account had been compromised.

ETA:
Not because I'm suspicious of what you're saying. Just because I'd like to check my own account.

[Pescado]

From Delphy: 
You can see that the same person with the same browser
string as the attacker on MTS2 and TSR (since they where
attacked too), logged into your account on at least 3
separate occasions. No doubt during one of these your
password was reset.

This is obviously pure fabrication that TSR has fed Delphy to cover up what they really did there. After all, they already know all this, so it doesn't hurt at all to regurgitate it back at Delphy, and if they can implicate a few users they have already banned already, why not?

[GoddessByline]

I'm late to arriwe to this discussion since I've been more or less MIA for the past 1½ year, but I've been waiting since late 2002 to say this... I TOLD YOU SO, TSR ARE NOT TO BE TRUSTED CONSIDERING THE PEOPLE WHO're IN CHARGE THERE!!!
(People who've been as long as I have in the community knows to what I'm referring. As for the rest who don't know why I'm gloating, just ignor my post because I'm in no mood to reiterate.)

Also, congratulations to Buggybooz, because she and Delpy manged to to accomplish what I and other creators never could, to get their stuff taken down from TSR. They haven't gotten an appology though, but at least they've gotten a small victory. The most important thing though, is that the community start to realise what lengths the people behind TSR are willing to go to to destroy the free community so they can achieve monopoly, and that is indeed a victory.

Now I'll go back ro lurk mode.

[dietofworms]

Pescado, I'm not saying I don't believe you, but could you please explain how you came to this conclusion?  (I want you to be right, I just need some more evidence to be satisfied.)

[Eskimo Pie]

  WEll I almost had enough koodies for a free day but my koodies are now gone. Not sure if it was because I was a bad girl and thomass stole them back or what. I changed all my passwords again to be sure.  Took me a long time to get koodies, a lot of thanking people for crap.

[Quinctia]

I'm not sure about Pescado's reasoning, but here's mine.  They've shared enough information to portray themselves as horribly incompetant victims.  Letting on that they have unencrypted passwords AND a security breach that they kept secret from their customers is such a bad light to put a supposedly professional business in, I believe it's got to be the best show they could make out of the evidence they knew Delphy had.  Even being utter moronic victims is better than being seen as utter moronic criminals.

If they could have spun it better than that, they would have.  As it is, I think it's a pretty good twist, if they've managed to get people to believe it.

Unfortunately, I'm betting Delphy offered way more information than he should have.  Probably there was more than enough offered here in this thread to get them started on this defense.  You generally do not let the accused participate in their investigations, for good reason!

What has ruled out the explanation that the same person at TSR who accessed Buggybooz and Thomas's accounts at MTS2 just used the same proxy whilst wandering about TSR's completely browseable, unencrypted userfiles?  Like one would put a coat on to go outside if it were cold regardless of the destination, they proxy up before doing shady shit, regardless of what site they're fucking with?

[Moune]

(People who've been as long as I have in the community knows to what I'm referring. As for the rest who don't know why I'm gloating, just ignor my post because I'm in no mood to reiterate.)

Well, could somebody else explain then, please? I have been in the community that long, but I'm not sure I know what you're referring to.

[Witchboy]

I'm late to arriwe to this discussion since I've been more or less MIA for the past 1½ year, but I've been waiting since late 2002 to say this... I TOLD YOU SO, TSR ARE NOT TO BE TRUSTED CONSIDERING THE PEOPLE WHO're IN CHARGE THERE!!!
(People who've been as long as I have in the community knows to what I'm referring. As for the rest who don't know why I'm gloating, just ignor my post because I'm in no mood to reiterate.)

Also, congratulations to Buggybooz, because she and Delpy manged to to accomplish what I and other creators never could, to get their stuff taken down from TSR. They haven't gotten an appology though, but at least they've gotten a small victory. The most important thing though, is that the community start to realise what lengths the people behind TSR are willing to go to to destroy the free community so they can achieve monopoly, and that is indeed a victory.

Now I'll go back ro lurk mode.

Bibi!!! I'm so glad to see you back Hope all has been well with you. *BIG Hugs*