Insim under new management!

[chemistrycourtney]

If you consider those stupid IMVU dolls kissing and dry-humping while wearing provactive clothing 'porn', then I guess there was porn.  I don't consider that porn.  I never got porn ads on the main site.  Only the adult site, which is expected.

Personally, the user-friendly model of vB is what i'm accostomed to.  It's what I prefer.

If you want the input of the original mods/admin of InSim, I would suggest posting a poll at the Sims Oasis.  I think that's where they all are now.

Not porn ads.  Porn spam.  I mean spam bots that signed up for the forum, and spammed threads with hardcore porn.  

[Knownasjr]

It is my opinion that removing vBulletin from the table becuase of a phone home check (that happens only in the admincp) without first asking the ex staff and members what they want to use, and at least giving them the OPTION of using it, is a bad idea. 

Perhahs I don´t adding something useful to the discussion, but thanks Delphy for this democratic position, I totally agree with this concept, the main part of my stuff is at the adult site, I´m used to post in vB forums, but I don´t mind about the forums sofware, it´s a great idea ask to members or now "ex-members" about their position.

P.D.: Totally agree with the idea of a poll at Sim Oasis.

[Apsalar]

Personally, the user-friendly model of vB is what i'm accostomed to.  It's what I prefer.

You do realize that a non vB model wouldn't mean a less user-friendly model, right?

[FreeShitOnly]

Not porn ads.  Porn spam.  I mean spam bots that signed up for the forum, and spammed threads with hardcore porn.  

Oh yeah.. I've seen some spam bots at InSim.  I've seen them on S2C before also though.   I think there are security measures that can be taken to reduce or eliminate them.  At least I presume thats why there are no longer prevalent on S2C now.

Aspalar, I do realize that.  I only spoke on what I prefer.  My own personal take on it is that vB is more user-friendly for *me*.

[Devilfish]

Letting the (ex) staff decide on things like policy and such is obviously best, no discussion from me there. And if the people who basically ran this site for ages have the technical know-how to keep costs at a minimum whil retaining much af the old 'feel' of the site, be my guest. But I got the impression that Insim started going downhill because K/E... well, sucked at keeping things manageable and organised. That's what started the whole Never Ending Donation Drive in the first place, right? I don't know any of the people involved personally, so for all I know they're all wizards wth this stuff, but if they're not, the smartest thing to would be to let people who know about this stuff take care of the technical side. Anything to avoid another donation drive from hell, really. After that's taken care of, obviously it should go to the people who kept the whole thing alive and running in the first place.

[Delphy]

So you ask all members and staff everything before you change anything? Because, I'm guessing .. no.  You administrate your software the way you see fit as the administrator.

Is there something absolutely super special about vB?  Does it taste like cake?  Someone explain forum boards to me. I don't get it.

I most certainly ask the staff when I change stuff - they get involved in all kinds of discussions about new things we implement.  I just feel that removing things from the table without actually asking the people who are most affected here (the people who left insim) is a bad idea.

[Apsalar]

 My own personal take on it is that vB is more user-friendly for *me*.

Why? Is that laziness or do you not deem yourself smart enough to learn something new?

[FreeShitOnly]

Are you fucking kidding me?  Go over there ---> with that shit man.  I like it goddamit and I can like whatever the fuck I want to like when it comes to my internets.

Learn something new?  I'm on this site right now posting back to you am I not?  I spoke on what the fuck I like and because I have a personal preference that means i'm lazy and not smart enough?  Get the fuck outta here with that shit.

It's called taste.  Are you not smart enough to learn about that?

[Bliss]

You did say members, too.  All of which are scattered to the winds.  

Ultimately, though, the decision for the security of the forum lies in one person's hands, and that person is the one who makes the decision.  It should be based on more than some sort of phone call thing, but it should also be based more on what makes everyone feel good and fuzzy.  He'll be the one actually responsible for it.  

I think if you tried to get everyone together now for a vote, you'd have a massive mess on your hands - a bigger mess than InSim is now.  It's nigh on impossible to find even half of everyone, even if there's a good amount of them here, at Oasis, or GOS.  

The running of the forum, further changes, that can be handled by the admins and moderators when it's up.  Then the teamwork starts and everyone pulls together with a freakin' montage of bad 80's music and paints the new forum with bright shiny colours and starts posting "Where were you when InSim fell?"

[Light_Angel]

Personally, I wouldn't mind the switch from vB to SMF at all.  I've gotten used to this forum format over the past few months, and it's more versatile than vB in my honest opinion.  And either way, whichever works for the best and is safer is fine by me, I don't care.  I just want to be in places that are Walt-Free now.

(Besides, I wouldn't be able to tell you technical stuff about either if my life depended on it... in the short time I've been a part of InSIM's staff and over at the Oasis, I don't know any more about it than the basic moderation options and what little I've learned from being online.)

[froggysim]

So... most of what I wanted to say was ninja'd by now.
But just on a side note: I don't like Walt taking over insim but I wouldn't like the insim being just a game object of some epic "Pes vs. Delphy" war either and right now it feels like that's what it's heading towards.

[Saharia]

I'm in favor of SMF. I'm using it at the Oasis, and I've used it elsewhere. It's great. (except for the damned no-moderated-post issue...but that could be me being dumb as a rock) And um, I have to ask about this poll...Are we polling staff or members? Because um, well, SMF is really easy to use for pretty much everyone. I occasionally want to poke the admin interface with sticks, but again, because I'm a little rusty and forget where I left the buttons. If there's major flaws in VB, AND it's costing money to set up, pitch it! Like I said, the only problem I've had with it so for is the inability to create a board that auto hides topics. *shrugs* I say SMF.

And let me know about that poll.

[Pescado]

Well as the most non staff staffer at insim, I don't mind switching away from vBulletin.  Would that, at least in theory, cut down on the amount of time spent running round insim removing hardcore porn spam?

As far as I know, SMF has vastly superior capacity for disposing of SPAM! vB makes it a PAIN IN THE ASS to DELETE THINGS.

[Apsalar]

Are you fucking kidding me?  Go over there ---> with that shit man.  I like it goddamit and I can like whatever the fuck I want to like when it comes to my internets.

Learn something new?  I'm on this site right now posting back to you am I not?  I spoke on what the fuck I like and because I have a personal preference that means i'm lazy and not smart enough?  Get the fuck outta here with that shit.

It's called taste.  Are you not smart enough to learn about that?

Whoa, really, I was just being curious.  I have no opinion on what you should post or what preference you should have. But it seems to me that either you're ready to work with something new or you're not. And since your only argument was that vB was going to be more user-friendly - which you yourself admitted wasn't really true, then I had to conclude that you either a. didn't feel like switching to something new or b. felt it would be too hard. Otherwise, since we already decided that use-friendlyness was out of the picture, there would be no reason at all for your 'preference' but pure stubbornness.  

- Apsalar, is currently in patient mode.

[Paden]

(This is directed towards Freeshitonly and NotApsalar) BOTH of you shut the hell up because you sound like a couple of six year olds screaming about a goddamn toy! You are not helping the situation at ALL. If Pescado uses SMF, I can help the rest of the staff learn it, it's not that ruddy hard! Would you please save it until it's all a done deal! CHRIST!