Darqstar owes me $10. It's quite obvious you will never see illegality as illegality. Your argument is fail if you refuse to acknowledge they ever did anything wrong.
I never agreed to the bet, I was at work! Besides, I never would have been stupid enough to take the bet. People like Macaque never learn. They just keep saying the same thing over and over again, and think that because they mix the words up a bit, that we'll never figure it out and eventually go over to their side.
However, should the ten dollars be that important to you, you are welcome to come to my place to collect it. I'll even take you out for a beer or two!
TSR shares personal information of it's members. The people there do this in both forum and PM. Whether it was gotten from paypal or from it's member roster, I DO NOT CARE. It is wrong. It is immoral. It is unethical.
You so rock my socks off, Palemato.
TSR holds creations hostage. I don't want my stuff associated with that place any more. DIRECTLY due to the personal information sharing. Thomas told me to forget it.
That got me to thinking, so I went over to TSR and did some poking. When you sign up for an account, they ask for some pretty personal information. Stuff that no one would put without some assurance. They give you an assurance too:
requested information. Please note, however, that none of the information will be transfered to other parties than TSR. The purpose of TSR having the address information is to be able to send prizes from our many upcoming competitions.
(Bolding was added by me)
TSR can't even follow their own rules. No, I don't consider their FA's to be "TSR." They could be considered employees of TSR, but that's different. And, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't see it saying, "To be able to send prizes and post in our FA forum, if we suspect you of being a pirate."
Now it looks like the EA EULA is not the only thing the idiots at TSR are breaking. The whois TOU is also broken. Nice job Blackgarden. You are a world class moron.
I really believe that most of the FA's truly believe that their money is being unfairly taken, and thus have the right to do whatever is necessary to protect them.
This type of devotion is usually reserved for ones family, friends, or pets. It's hard to swallow the depths these folks will sink to in order to protect a few hundred dollars a month. It makes me wonder what they would do if they really were making a living at this. I'm just glad they are selling pixels and not crack.
* We're not getting anywhere with this are we?
That's the most brilliant thing you've said so far.
If coconut decides to forward the information to the public then coconut is responsible for that.
Were you born this stupid, or did you have to take special lessons? Or, have you never checked out Coconut's journal? Coconut blanked out the parts with the information. If coconut hadn't done that, we'd be yelling at her. She blurred it. She did NOT share personal information. What she has done was shown us proof that TSR was sharing personal information.
Yeah i'm saying it's out of context even if it's the full post. Things posted in private among friends is a whole other context than the coconut blog no matter how you twist it.
In private among friends you can say things without being serious and your friends would know that.
That statement is so full of fail I hardly know where to begin. First of all, there are quite a few FA's, and as former FA's have told us, they aren't all close personal friends. And, even if they are, what's wrong is wrong. If I share personal information about someone with my friends, that doesn't make it right.
The fact that this information has made it into the public eye shows how this was not just a conversation among friends. And, now that they know that their information is leaking, they
continue doing it.
And wrong is wrong. I don't care who you're with. If I say, "God, that person pissed me off, stealing my meshes, I'd like to smack her upside the head" with my friends, that's one thing. If they are close friends, they will know that the threat is empty. On the other hand, if I say, "That person stole my meshes and here is her address and phone number, we're not going to let her get away with it," that's quite another. And you know what? I know my friends well enough and trust them enough that were I to do such a thing, they would say, "Okay Darqstar, you crossed the line. I understand you being upset, but what you're asking is just wrong."
What they were doing was taking the law into their own hands. Why? Because they know they really have no legal recourse of any kind. If they had a legal leg to stand on, you bet BlackGarden would be consulting a lawyer and preparing to sue the crap out of that woman. If they had a legal leg to stand on, Thomas would be suing the hell out of Pescado and anyone he caught "stealing" one of his precious payfiles. But, since they don't have a legal leg to stand on, they have decided that they will be the law. It's vigilante justice.
And if it's all in innocent fun, then why are they posting personal information? If it was just a bunch of "good friends" having a bit of a bitch session, why all the bother with paypal information? Why not just keep it to screen names? The fact that they gave out personal information shows that they were doing more than just having a bitch session. The fact that people spoke about DOS attacks and other things says it wasn't just a gripe session. NOT ONE FUCKING PERSON came forward and said, "Okay, I understand that we're all upset, and we have a right to be, but what some folks are suggesting here goes above and beyond what is right for us to do." Nope, all of them were all gun-ho about serving their own brand of justice.
Oh and Palemato: Thanks for reaching out, i appreciate the gesture and i believe you're a genuinely nice person.
She is a nice person and the fact that you can recognize that, gives me hope that you're faking some of this stupidity.
I don't need to be rescued though.
We'll see. I hope TSR is giving you something for all your troubles and again, I hope your loyalty to them doesn't come back to bite you on the ass.