A Very Interesting Discovery...

[Paden]

Wait, whu?? You're talking Sims ONE? Ok fine youbetcha, yeah. No matter what game it's for, T$R is gonna treat people like shit, meal tickets, idiots, fools and catspaws. They're gonna talk down to them, browbeat them, insult them and be totalitarian mud-fucks. That is why we want them flushed down the shitter. Because we're normal humans that don't allow ourselves or anyone else to be treated like they have maybe an eight of a brain, although if you hang out there at T$R long enough, that is surely what in the hell is gonna happen to you.

[Renegade]

I didn't see you yet - be fair! Plus - I am meshing and watching Dr. Who.  Your avi is missing, and I'm glad you're back. Your sig is fine. 

<snipped because I can moderate Calalily's posts!....in quotes >

Yes, okay I will let it slide, but you owe me in the future...maybe sexual favours, I haven't decided yet.  What the hell happened to my av? And, my signature WAS messed up, it cut off the first letter (just like it did to Plum's [ it seems).  So I was telling people to "isit" my site. I don't know what that means or how they can do that, so I changed it to "visit". I'm sure they'll appreciate that..

Edit: Uploaded a new avamatar.

[Amazone]

What i think as a pirate? I thin there are far too many TSR threads here.

Edit, cause of necromania threads over at TSR.

from 2004.

[calalily]

I didn't see you yet - be fair! Plus - I am meshing and watching Dr. Who.  Your avi is missing, and I'm glad you're back. Your sig is fine. 

<snipped because I can moderate Calalily's posts!....in quotes >

Yes, okay I will let it slide, but you owe me in the future...maybe sexual favours, I haven't decided yet. 

Moderate me will you! I shall never perform the Venetian Butterfly sexual technique for you! Hurmph! I also linked to your site too. 

[Hecubus]

Cala, you promised to only do that dance for me! :::wails::::


But back to topic: I know that there were people bitching when the first paysites appeared for TS1, but there was not enough organization to make much of a stink. Fortunately in 2006, Pescado saw a way to give some people butthurt, and from a desire for endless amusement, a movement was born.

What's interesting about the thread you posted however, is that even in 2004, they were already on the defensive - it's as though they all knew this was wrong right from the start.

Amusing. And fascinating.

[alia]

(I've got to add that I'm not referring to Kiri or Cindy, both of whom were involved with SimInternational Imports in the early days.  They split off from the site either when, or before, the woman who ran it (come to think of it, I believe her name was Ran, lol), started charging money.)

Her name was Ran Shengali, I believe, and Simternational Imports actually started the whole "exclusive content" -trend so fondly embraced by both Liquid Stars and Simbella.

Ran had some exclusive content (I don't know if it was free or pay), people shared it, she threw a hissy fit and started an exclusive site with only 500 closest friends as members and disappeared from the face of the earth. I was very pissed off, since I loved the ethnic flavour of her things but could not get in as I was not one of her lackeys. 

[Ry]

Wasn't it all about a bed?
Some silly, fugly, bed?

[chemistrycourtney]

As far as the online community goes, I'm still a fairly new addition to it.  I played sim city, and sims 1, and sims 2, but did not participate in the online community at all.  I didn't know anything about it.  Heh.  When I did finally find it, I didn't understand it.  I think the very first thing I wandered on to was a paysite.  I didn't look around any more after that.  I was rather pleased years later to discover a place that was giving butthurt to paysites at large.  I only wish I'd known about it sooner. 

[Bella the Paysite Slayer]

I think the very first thing I wandered on to was a paysite.  I didn't look around any more after that.  I was rather pleased years later to discover a place that was giving butthurt to paysites at large.  I only wish I'd known about it sooner.

Which paysite was it?  How much $$$ did you blow off?

[Bella the Paysite Slayer]

I just did some more spying on TSR.  Here's some more pre-TS2 paysite discussions:

http://forums.thesimsresource.com/showthread.php?t=222171&highlight=bandwidth+cost- From Nov. 2003.  This one's rather toned down and mature.  However, the paysite defenders are still bringing out the old "I should be paid for my hard work!" argument.

http://forums.thesimsresource.com/showthread.php?t=222989&highlight=paysite- From Nov. 2003.  Very similar to the one listed above.

http://forums.thesimsresource.com/showthread.php?t=229573&highlight=paysite- From Feb. 2004.  This one's about general frustration with paysites.  No real debating, however.  But, at least no KGB moderators popped up to quash all dissent!

http://forums.thesimsresource.com/showthread.php?t=227366&highlight=paysite- From January 2004.  T$R members ponder whether or not the paysite industry would be harmed by TS2's release.  We all know the answer, now, do we?

http://forums.thesimsresource.com/showthread.php?t=236317&highlight=paysite- From May 2004.  Same as above.  Gawd, they were SO naive!

http://forums.thesimsresource.com/showthread.php?t=242338&highlight=paysite- From July 2004.  A thread about "stealing" (What they call filesharing.).

That's all for now.  I find this rather fascinating, since VERY many people online think paysites weren't a TS1 issue and are a TS2-only issue.  What n00bs!

 

[chemistrycourtney]

I think the very first thing I wandered on to was a paysite.  I didn't look around any more after that.  I was rather pleased years later to discover a place that was giving butthurt to paysites at large.  I only wish I'd known about it sooner.

Which paysite was it?  How much $$$ did you blow off?

I don't know.  Some sort of mall thing.  I don't know what it was.  And none.  I said WFT?! and then didn't bother looking anymore, cause ChemistryCourtney doesn't pay for pixels. 

[alia]

Wasn't it all about a bed?
Some silly, fugly, bed?

Honestly, I cannot remember. Even at that time I thought she was blowing it out of proportions, but then it more or less became a norm. 

Which paysite was it?  How much $$$ did you blow off?

I don't know.  Some sort of mall thing.  I don't know what it was.  And none.  I said WFT?! and then didn't bother looking anymore, cause ChemistryCourtney doesn't pay for pixels. 

That would be the Mall of the Sims. The site and its contents sucked anyways. No wonder you were not impressed.

Edit: typo

[glasscigarette]

I looked over some of those threads, Bella, and all I can say is...wow. I wish I had been a member of the online community at the time, because I would have loved to rip those idiots a new one. Or new ones. Whatever.

I said WFT?! and then didn't bother looking anymore, cause ChemistryCourtney doesn't pay for pixels. 

Good girl.

[chemistrycourtney]

Well, sure.  It is just one of those things that has always hit me wrong.  I didn't get it then, and I don't get it now.  I don't eliminate the use of an item because it is pay, but I don't feel it is better than items that are not.  I just think they are all items, and well, some suck, some don't.  Charging for them is inherently wrong, and by default makes your creations a little less interesting to me.  Although I am not above using them; especially now that the booty exists in my world.  Ah the booty, the great equalizer. 

(on a slightly unrelated sidenote, most everything I've ever downloaded from the booty has been deleted over time from my game.  There are things that I would have been super pissed if I'd paid for them.) 

[Ry]

The Kerry bed...oooeeeeoooooo *think Harvey Birdman's lovely ESP laden judge*
Infamous.

I believe that's the one Seabree gave SIH. *snort*
Why I can remember all this shyte is beyond me....but I can't remember trash day...