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Maybe someone should do a knockoff of Peggy, like "I Can't Believe It's Not Peggy", of Peggy-lookalike stuff. Without the gaps.

If anyone has the skills and the time to do that, I would seriously have their babies.
That and perhaps lower the polycounts of some other bloated hairs/objects. And offer them for free! Yay!

If it's advertised enough, spoken about it enough... I KNOW I (and maybe you!)  will be amazed at the results. And, if anything, it will create some delicious drama!

 :twisted:

MOAR RUM!

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There's a thread going on at N99 right now about TSR? And there are so many people posting about subbing there!  :shock: It originally started off with one person complaining she couldn't get in and she has a sub but it's turned into "I luv TSR" and it's making me ill.  :?

http://starlightsims.yuku.com/topic/23747

[dietofworms]

People like paysite stuff because to them it says "exclusive!!!!1111!!!!".  Then they can post pics of their houses and have everyone ask, "I've never seen that x before--where'd ya get it?"  To which they smugly answer, "Donation set from xyz".  And then the unwashed masses get themselves over to xyz pronto so they too can have speshul stuff.

[Jojoba]

Alrighties, so are we doing a general list, with focus on some specific popular items?

And with XMsims - yes there textures may sometimes be not that grand, but they are free, and are retextured by the masses, e.g just look at the hair section at MTS2.

With male alternatives to Aikea and Gelydh: one word - GoS.

As Markus has been doing, I dont have that much pay CC in my game..because I do truely believe that free is better and I would rather use that.

Mmm I think Kid said this perfectly - "To a certain extent you're not battling pay sites so much as the the people who are willing to pay them - you have to change their perspective and I don't think that will ever really happen". So very very true Although I hope that it does happen

Maybe someone should do a knockoff of Peggy, like "I Can't Believe It's Not Peggy", of Peggy-lookalike stuff. Without the gaps.

Regenade already does this, does she not?

[keirra]

Maybe someone should do a knockoff of Peggy, like "I Can't Believe It's Not Peggy", of Peggy-lookalike stuff. Without the gaps.

Regenade already does this, does she not?

I think Pescado means make their own meshes from scratch, not fixing Peggy's crap, which Renegade does so well.  

If someone could copy the pay meshes, but, actually make them good and for free?  That could put Peggy and Rose out of business.

[Alice and the Pirates]

If someone could copy the pay meshes, but, actually make them good and for free?  That could put Peggy and Rose out of business.

I highly doubt this. Owning Peggy or Rose stuff is about prestige. You cannot have prestige if it's for free, right? Prestige has to be expensive, so you can think of yourself to be better than the masses.

I suggest, additional to putting them up for free you say, they can only be obtained for a donation, which you after receiving donate to the Red Cross for their blood bandwidth problems.

[Dark Lunaris]

Although I'm sure Peggy and the like, still make a killing off unfortunate souls willing to pay for their crap... I look at the amount of members on PMBD and giggle a bit.
Because a good chunk of that number represent lost sales.

(The rest represent the self sacrificing booty donatores and the people who'd never buy from paysites anyway, regardless of booty).

Peggy losing around 4000 people is a good start.. and that doesn't include unregistered downloaders.

That's a lot of money considering her retard membership costs.

(lets not forget SFV members and GoS too..)

I personally don't think all pay creators are evil. I don't agree with pay at all, but some pay artists I've spoken to have been sweet people.
...I do however.. think big sites like Peggy are just bloody evil... the amount of money she asks for.. those PG points.. those "gifts"... her entire site is not just pay.. it's a giant scam from hell and should be burned.

[Anouk]

Maybe someone should do a knockoff of Peggy, like "I Can't Believe It's Not Peggy", of Peggy-lookalike stuff. Without the gaps.

There's always Renegade fixin stuff.
Also, who the hell wants to recolor hair green and yellow and fire-engine red  and purple as natural colors on purpose anyway.
Also, there's Helga who makes similair stuff, right? And not green.

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I thought it would be a good idea if they were all fixed and available for free just to show her

Renegade has only done the worst in the bunch


Tis an idea I kinda liked

I agree about the exclusive thing... to a point... People who just want stuff for themselves and want to pay for it, need their heads examined. Its just a game, the items are cloned or remeshed from basic Maxis objects. It's not something you need to pay for!
If you want to be exclusive and smug, make stuff only for you. Then show it off if you must. But once you do that, you are bound to be copied!

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[ws-jessica]

downloadwhores...she has alot of incorrect stuff even though she finally updated in december she removed sites that simply moved like Doursim which moved a YEAR ago. All she would have had to do is type in doursim into google and it would have given her the new address in 5 seconds.
So although i love the idea, its not executed very well

I maintain a list of 100% free download sites: http://wickedsims2.com/links.shtml
I only have it separated into 3 categories though: new to my page, updated recently, and not updated recently but downloads are still available.

Anyone is more than welcome to take that list and change it into one that has download categories on it like downloadwhores has. My list doesnt have every sims site on it, but it has all the ones im aware of pretty much. And I update it every 2 weeks or so to remove dead sites and update links for the ones that have moved.

Plus theres always WNF lol

I think someone was already planning on having a site that was sort of like BSB but also had freesite comparisons? I'm not sure what happened with that though, Nouk would be more in-the-know than me lol

I think the main problem with paysites being in-demand is that they make realistic popular hairstyles (like certain celebs wear) and most free creators have unique styles that dont fit everyone. I love nouk, but her hair isnt for everyone (it is for me though, i have pretty much all of them lol). And there are a few great hair meshers on mts2 and stuff but they only seem to make Anime hair styles and only for boys :|

[Plum]

There's a thread going on at N99 right now about TSR? And there are so many people posting about subbing there!  :shock: It originally started off with one person complaining she couldn't get in and she has a sub but it's turned into "I luv TSR" and it's making me ill.  :?

http://starlightsims.yuku.com/topic/23747

I've never seen anything like it.  How odd.  o.O

[Dark Lunaris]

I think the main problem with paysites being in-demand is that they make realistic popular hairstyles (like certain celebs wear) and most free creators have unique styles that dont fit everyone. I love nouk, but her hair isnt for everyone (it is for me though, i have pretty much all of them lol). And there are a few great hair meshers on mts2 and stuff but they only seem to make Anime hair styles and only for boys :|

I think because when you go pay.. it's about the money.. and you make what's in demand.. whether you consider making it fun or not fun. I make stuff as a hobby as all free creators do, so I just make what I want in my game and don't care about what other people want to see. If people share my taste, I consider it a very nice bonus. XD
I do try my best though, to make stuff dual gender. So all my hair is male and female. (Although it's always under male at MTS2 because they don't have a "unisex" section for hair downloads). I'll most likely make hair that is less anime later on, as I've got a lot of ideas.. but when it's not anime, I do fantasy... so my hair will still always be.. unusual. XD

I suppose pleasing the masses all the time is something that sell-outs do.. and selling out is only something that happens in exchange for money.. stating the obvious XD.

Anyways, I think as a creator/artist in general... I like having my own thing.. or something I'm known for! Those big paysites are all the same.. none of them have a special "thing" or style. Freesites have styles and uniqueness. If people look for me when they want to dress up their anime fairy sim or whatever, I think that's cool. I can be known for that and quite happy about it. <3

I suppose we need a good free creator who has passion for creating... popular hairstyles like the pay ones... but I can't really think of one... I REALLY don't find myself having fun making Paris Hilton Hair er.. whatever. lol

[Markus]

WNF- Wicked Nouk Family
GoS- Garden Of Shadows

[aingeal]

GoS stands for Garden of Shadows, and WNF for Wicked Nouk Family

i agree with ws-jessica about the reason for the popularity of the pay hair sites; maybe i'm wrong - and it's certainly not true in all cases, as people play the game in different ways and for different reasons - but i think that a significant number enjoy Sims 2 because it allows them to play out fantasies or they use it as a platform for wish-fulfillment. (Maybe it's just because i don't get around much, but i've never actually met anyone who used their possession of pay CC as a bragging point :shock: And i'm quite grateful for that.) They might not have the money for the designer clothes or fussy celeb hairdos in RL, so they get them for their Sims instead. Paysites specialise in these types, so they're popular. If there were free lookalikes available, i'm sure that these paysites would lose a big chunk of their supporters.

[alia]

(Maybe it's just because i don't get around much, but i've never actually met anyone who used their possession of pay CC as a bragging point :shock: And i'm quite grateful for that.)

I see you were not a member of Simbella, then.  Simbella was notorious for that. And they had exclusive content that you could have if you asked and did not share with anyone outside the forum. But of course they also had super exclusive stuff that the inner circle shared among themselves.

Also, take Aikea_Guinea. People are obsessed with her sims because they cannot have them. Also, she has some things she refuses to share with anyone, thus everyone tries to kiss her ass as best they can, because if you become one of her chosen ones, she shares her stuff with you.

To a certain degree, all paysite stuff is all about exclusivity. Not all can afford it, thus if you have it, your game is better than others.