just random thoughts

[Blue]

I still don't understand why you think that there should be talk about other stuff here, or what point you're trying to make about people registering here, or what you think is wrong with discussing the sex life of a man who has put information on the internet, about his sex life, to be read. I'd be happy to discuss those things if you'd care to clarify any of them.

I'm sorry, I must have overlooked your post. Everywhere I turned I saw the word 'uneducated' so I focused on that.

The Jack guy. Now this is what I mean when I say uneducated people. No one in their right mind would put something like that on the net about his private life. At the same time I don't believe smarter people should search out information like this about someone's misery just to laugh about it. To stamp into someone's life like that is not only dishonorable but downright mean. He may have deserved some sort of a 'punishment' but in my opinion this was going way too far.

About registering.  The more the better as the saying goes.
The growth of this site would greatly annoy the majority of the opposition. I just suggested that to make this so called 'war' a little more on equal level.

About the topics. This is a good site and I see a lot of really smart people too. I saw a couple of them on other forums and they were very civil and professional. Not at all what I heard about the members here. I just suggested that they could share their views on topics not related to the game. Um...I like to hear what real everyday people think about politics or their politicians. But as I understand if this isn't a forum for that.

[toomanyguppys]

The Jack guy. Now this is what I mean when I say uneducated people. No one in their right mind would put something like that on the net about his private life.

You seem to be confusing "uneducated" with "stupid."  I find that really annoying.

[MMEStalker]

At the same time I don't believe smarter people should search out information like this about someone's misery just to laugh about it. To stamp into someone's life like that is not only dishonorable but downright mean. He may have deserved some sort of a 'punishment' but in my opinion this was going way too far.

Well I don't think that education or intelligence has much to do with posting stuff about yourself on the net, I know several intelligent, well educated people who put information about themselves on livejournal accounts that I would personally consider too private. There are many different reasons for doing so, from just wanting to write down your thoughts and feelings to see what other people think about them, to deliberately trying to shock and annoy people. But whatever the reason, the fact is these people are sharing personal things with people they don't know, knowing that those people will not always have the same opinions as them, and knowing that these people will probably discuss what they think with other people. If they don't like what people say about them, they shouldn't read whatever has been said about them, or they should only tell people whose response they are already certain of. You say it is mean and dishonourable, but I know plenty of people who don't approve of my lifestyle, or think that I'm wrong/ugly/pathetic/snobby/common/stupid/whatever and I don't think that if they discuss these views with other people and laugh at me, that they're mean or dishonourable. That doesn't mean I'm going to like what they say about me, or think that there is any truth in their opinion of me, I just don't think that they're bad people for talking about me, unless they are telling lies about me. Wow, that was longer than I expected.

The growth of this site would greatly annoy the majority of the opposition.

Probably, but not everyone here is interested in annoying the opposition, and this doesn't strike me as the sort of site that would benefit much from encouraging people to post, as others have said, the forum isn't the point of the site, the booty is.

I just suggested that they could share their views on topics not related to the game. Um...I like to hear what real everyday people think about politics or their politicians. But as I understand if this isn't a forum for that.

Given how much the threads here get derailed anyway, in all probability other subjects, like politics, will get discussed at some point. But most of the people here probably have other places they talk about those sort of topics, and don't feel that this forum needs to try to branch out to keep their interest. If conversation about filesharing and paysites runs out before all paysites are destroyed and the site becomes unneeded, either we'll find other things to talk about, or we'll stop talking. It doesn't really matter to me which that is, as I have other sites that I post in, where I can post about any crap I like.

[coliss]

The Jack guy. Now this is what I mean when I say uneducated people. No one in their right mind would put something like that on the net about his private life. At the same time I don't believe smarter people should search out information like this about someone's misery just to laugh about it. To stamp into someone's life like that is not only dishonorable but downright mean. He may have deserved some sort of a 'punishment' but in my opinion this was going way too far.

It wasn't some sort of "punishment", but it was to entertain people. As far as I am concerned, he posted them on a PUBLIC MySpace. It's not like it was set to "private". We didn't talk much about all aspects of his sex life, that's his thing. We joked about the dirty jockstrap and the fact that he's living with his parents at 30 and does not have a job because he's an immigrant. :roll:

[Captain Feathersword]

I just suggested that they could share their views on topics not related to the game. Um...I like to hear what real everyday people think about politics or their politicians. But as I understand if this isn't a forum for that.

Given that this site is based in Malaysia, what sort of assumptions are you going to make before you start a conversation on politics anyway? I doubt many Malaysians consider US politics their top priority.

[misdirection]

Well, I for one don't think Prime Minister Hassan has been the same since the  attempted assination at the Mugatu show... :twisted:

[Sherry]

The Jack guy. Now this is what I mean when I say uneducated people. No one in their right mind would put something like that on the net about his private life. At the same time I don't believe smarter people should search out information like this about someone's misery just to laugh about it. To stamp into someone's life like that is not only dishonorable but downright mean. He may have deserved some sort of a 'punishment' but in my opinion this was going way too far.

The only reason Motoki had found out what he was doing was because he not only at one time linked his blog from his site, but he also regularly mentioned his website/sim creating on his blog.  He did not spend time searching to randomly punish some paysite creator.  Jack put it out there on the public domain, and in my opinion once you put something out there, everyone is free to comment, it's just the way the world works.

This forum is not about being **super nice** and censoring, and I don't think it's about "puishment" either.  It's about reality, in reality paysites are supposed to be non-commerical, in reality Jack is one truly uh "gross" and lazy individual.  That is a truth he put out there about himself and reality is not always pleasant.

[Solowren]

Personally, I can never be arsed to be chatty on these things. I read a few different forums for various things, but ...

If a site requires me to post before I'm allowed to read anything, I don't register. I'm quite stubborn, you see,you can't make me be sociable.

Ditto. I enjoy the discussions but will rarely participate in them. In fact, I'll probably never post here again.

Though I will be watching, creepily, from the shadows...

Perhaps from now on I'll randomly spout "Ahoy thar, Idleserum!", knowing that you're always watching. (Much like the government?)

[Blue]

MMEStalker

I thank you for your answer. I wanted to post a long one again but I thought better of it. I would only come to the same conclusion anyway. The booty. Everything is for the booty. They told me I just didn't want to believe it. The real world, huh? Someone wrote here that she could care less what happens to this site afterwards. And the people? I didn't even reply to that. Its just sad and...empty. I got the best answer from DelMita. It was short:anarchy.

I never said that the people who made fun of Jack were bad. Mean yes in this case but not bad or evil etc.. And the method was...not nice if the other word is too harsh. But maybe its just me. I would never intentionally hurt/humiliate someone this way.
Sometimes I read livejournals too. They put in all kinds of stuff about their life but never did I see them discussing their sexlife in such a detail. But I know there are people with more exotic tastes. I just never seen one.

thesandman

1. So, I did tickle you until you registered didn't I? And one 'lurker' less. Maybe I can tickle you to post again. We'll see.

toomanyguppys

1. No I don't, but I think to go to highschool and college needs some amount of brain material.



coliss

That was the second thread I've read that first day. The first was Pimp my Sims. I like Solander so I posted in his defense (which he didn't need. He did a mighty good job defending himself) Then I read the 'jack' thread. And they were both at the top so naturally I clicked on them first. I stopped at the cum infested floor so I don't know what went on after or who the guy is. But on thing is sure, you guys really hate him.


CaptainFeathersword

So? Nobody lives there. Only the server.


Sherry

Yeah, and that's new. I dont mind cursing or even dirty jokes. I'm not a saint. I'm just not used to unmoderated forums I guess.



Blue

[yamikuronue]

coliss

That was the second thread I've read that first day. The first was Pimp my Sims. I like Solander so I posted in his defense (which he didn't need. He did a mighty good job defending himself) Then I read the 'jack' thread. And they were both at the top so naturally I clicked on them first. I stopped at the cum infested floor so I don't know what went on after or who the guy is. But on thing is sure, you guys really hate him.

You DO know we didn't make that shit up, right? Those were all quotes by HIM, not our idea of satire.

CaptainFeathersword

So? Nobody lives there. Only the server.

Gee, I bet there's about 26,849,336 people who would have a bone to pick with that statement right now...[/url]

[Ensign EO]

I don't hate OpenLegsJack.  Don't even know the guy beyond the strange ramblings he posted on his Myspace.  Hell, after a while no one talked about Jack anymore, save for the latecomers that wanted to mention the guy.  It was good gossip while it lasted.

Until I got into MATY, most of the forums I was at were moderated.  I would think that it's easier to go from a moderated forum to an unmoderated one, but that just might be me.  I don't really feel the need to tattle on people or lecture them if they do something naughty on a forum.

[wicked_one]

I wanted to post a long one again but I thought better of it

 :lol: well you certainly added a bunch of space to make it longer

But on thing is sure, you guys really hate him.

I don't think anybody said they hate him...disgusted by him yes, confused by him yeah, and probably other things but talking about someone doesnt mean they are hated....*revises wording to avoid nasty joke* he wanted everyone on his site to know about his life and read about it so he linked to it...and it was mentioned here so that people know what paysite owners REALLY do with the money they get for "donation" sets/items...since most are still screaming crying and whining about how the "donation" stuff is for bandwidth and hosting fees (except for lyric who said paysite owners use it to support their kids)

I'm just not used to unmoderated forums I guess.

so your first move was to suggest it be moderated and force everyone to register in order to get the booty (even though you say yourself that you aren't a forum person)?

Maybe I can tickle you to post again. We'll see.

so you like to incite riots, well that would explain your post...

And toomanyguppys is right, you keep confusing your words...you keep talking about it like we're lower than you because we gossip here, but you keep making inferences to stupidity, uneducated, etc when what you really mean is CLASS, this was brought up before and you seem to have missed it entirely.
This is a site for pirates and pirate-friendly people. Did you really expect it to be classy with a bunch of rules? The booty is the focus of a pirate's life...not chatting...and especially not talking about how dumb the US  president may be or how fucked up the world may be at the moment....raiding and booty

[Shark*Tooth*Hester]

Oh heck, i'll bite. ::reads::

Well, random is the right name for her topic, and she's long winded to boot.

The forum should only be open to members. Right now anybody can see it and explore it. That's not good. If you want to protect your members or want your members to feel safe you should change it. Of course there's not much you can do against hackers unless you're a better one. [/i]

I can protect myself. So can most people around here. Plus my world doesn't revolve around the sims universe, and if I do something dumb enough to be banned from polite sims society I'll manage to go on with my life. No one on the support staff is painfully concerned about magical black hat hackers that no one has been able to produce. Let me suggest you don't worry about it either.

Another thing. Strength is in numbers and if you don't want to be ephemeral  you have to expand and to expand you need members and I don't mean members who come raid your booty and never look back but members who actively participate in the forum. And you wont get that if you give away your booty like you do now. They should get the sets after registering. That's a minimum. And if you want to keep them you should have a variety of topics. Politics, general discussions, you name it. [/i]

Why is this "participation" of which you speak so imporatant to you? Thousands of members would do what exactly, scare the pants off of MTS2? Picket EA's corprate headquarters? No, they would probably spam the board like this. Pescado has a following from his own creations already, any additional armies or minions from here is just a perk for him.
 

And (now you'll probably want to kill me) you should put up a paypal button. In today's world people donate to the most absurd of things. Why not ride that? You don't have to put it in your pockets. You can use it for charity, bandwidth or for helping young talented meshers etc.[/i]

I don't want to kill you, I just keep wondering if something fell on your head this morning. The idea behind the site is that paying for things made for the sims2, a hobby people participate in by choice borders on asinine. That includes forums. Why are you infatuated with garnering money on a site against paysites you have no stake in?

 And I don't think its a good idea letting in kids. Some of the threads are not meant for children. You don't need indignant frothing at the mouth parents screaming SUE, do you? It happened with FF.net and they had to change their policy. I don't know whats the case in Malaysia but the US is well know for its pressurizing abilities. And when they want they can reach far.[/i]

Why is it always my duty to watch someone else's spawn? In this case, the kids are in fact, all right. There is nothing on this forum they can't see, hear, or experience in public school, somewhere else on the net, or on television.

[Aquamarine]

I lurk on most sites I go to for ANYTHING. This is my first post. Well done, you've invited me to the 'community'.

Personally, I can never be arsed to be chatty on these things. I read a few different forums for various things, but ...

If a site requires me to post before I'm allowed to read anything, I don't register. I'm quite stubborn, you see,you can't make me be sociable.

I don't really care for typed confabs, I'd rather call someone!

But you've made me grumpy this lovely Sunday lunchtime. Ergo, this post. I can't really say I care for your suggestions, but to be honest, it doesn't matter a bit. It ain't up to me. I'll probably just ignore the rest of this thread and really not care much.

I've d/l'd a nice chunk of booty, I've read the posts on lyriclee and delphy and pegy and rose and whatever... But I keep coming back to see if any of these posts tickle me, whilst I d/l free cc from other sites (because that does get a bit boring, with all the repeated thanx!!!!! without something to read). I don't really care for debating with people on forums, generally I just mutter quietly to myself, until my boyfriend notices and calls me sad.

I'm going to go back to reading these strange and funny threads, and I'll probably never post again. But these weirdos really do make me laugh, something that seldom happens on the po-faced, desperately fawning, tweenage or middle-aged sims sites. They're quick,funny and rude.

This is just a diversion. The real stuff's under Booty.
You really don't get this site. Just leave people like me alone.

Ta ta.

P.s I've never been banned, because I never post. But I certainly wouldn't cry if someone did.

P.p.s Undereducated is a terribly mean word. It does imply superiority. And this is teh interweb, people do tend to focus on only asides and off the cuff phrases. That's why I don't post.

It's a shame you won't post more, because this is about how I feel in regards to these long and drawn out debates. I can't be assed to take any of this that seriously beyond guffawing at the behavior of incredibly odd people.  At least contribute to the quick, funny, and rude like I do.  :wink:

[yamikuronue]

moment....raiding and booty

or in Openjack's case, raiding booty...

I'm going to hell for that one