Ea makes statement March 2 making paysites ok?

[Scurvy Cat]

So this is what TSR's been threatening us with all week?

A Maxoid makes an unofficial statement which is totally meaningless in any context? 

Riiiiiight.

I'm so quelled.

[Atlas]

This is my first post here, and after reading through the entire thread, I'm quite proud of it.

You people are amazingly well-versed, and most of you made me grin. I couldn't agree more with everyone!

Poor Drea, though. She's more often than not the main distributor of this empty BS; I bet someone behind the scenes is just making her look like more of an idiot by their unwillingness to have their own name on it all. I feel for her, 'cause I don't think she's aware enough to know that she's probably being used, along with her potential as an intelligent person.

Bah, who am I kidding?

[raebchen]

So this is what TSR's been threatening us with all week?

A Maxoid makes an unofficial statement which is totally meaningless in any context? 

Riiiiiight.

I'm so quelled.

I guess it is. I am just trying to wrap my head around how this is going to make people who are canceling their memberships at TSR stay there. After all, it was Steve who used the "announcement" to keep people from leaving. It just doesn't make sense in that context.

ETA: Anyone else get the feeling it's just a "Why can't we all just get along?" kinda whine??

[SnarkyShark]

This is almost as pointless as when TSR insisted that EA had changed the EULA when, in fact, they hadn't. Thomass attempted to puff that little bit of nonsense up as well. I imagine, though, that it will give the wanks something to gloat about in their super-secret (chuckle) thread whilst they illegally share paypal info.


PrincessPadre (shrieking) : "I've spent all day searching the web, Thomass, and I finally tracked down a girl scout in Cleveland sharing MY files. Here's the little bitch's Paypal info.

<The princess faints from all the exquisite drama>

Thomass (smirking) : "Good job, Princess P. You know, according to our BFF, Drea, this now an acceptable practice because we are finally a legitimate business and must do what we can to protect our pixels."

[Darqstar]

I have a bit of a question, which is a bit off topic but still about the TSR. Maybe Darqstar might know.

Do the FA's get a free sub to the TSR? I was over there hunting down a mesh when I read a comment in someones thank yous. It was from an FA saying thanks for the mesh and she could not wait for one of her free days to download it. So I got the impression that Thomass even makes his slaves pay if they want each others stuff.

Very odd... I always thought FA's got free subscriptions.  SA's do, I know that, because I still had a paid sub with a few months on it, when they decided SA's were free.

Maybe they work different deals with different FA's, or maybe the FA was full of it, and trying not to let it leak she/he got a free sub. Either way, it shocks me, I would think if SA's get a free sub, FA's should too.

Remember that thing with Atwa trying to get meshes off of Anoeski?  THat would seem to indicated FA's get free subs too, because the implications were that she thought she should still get free stuff, just like when she was an FA.

[minionsRmine]

This is interesting. I'll be interested to see if a Maxoid responds to any of these threads that have been made so far, since Drea conveniently locked her own thread :

Thread 1
Thread 2

[Devilfish]

Translation:

Hay u guys we're bff wif tsr nao so be nice to tem kay? kaythxbai!

[Bloody Vane]

That statement just seems odd all the way around. The Sims team, sounds like the guys who make the game. The ones who have stated over and over again, that they get no say in the DRM or any of the other decisions besides the game. So it kind of sounds like she took a poll of the people who do the majority of the work on the game, about people who "work" on creating CC. How surprising that these people (the sims 2 team) thought that they should be able to own and do whatever they want with their creations!

Even if the Sims team thinks creators should be able to do whatever they want with their work, they don't speak for EA, or EA's legal team. It sounds like a bunch of coworkers bitching about the way things should be around the water cooler and then making the changes without management knowledge or permission.

[Pescado]

I just realized: she made a statement that endorses the rights of people to sell Sim porn.

DO EET. Make a proof of concept site selling porn just to get them to shut you down.

[Devilfish]

I just realized: she made a statement that endorses the rights of people to sell Sim porn.

DO EET. Make a proof of concept site selling porn just to get them to shut you down.

You know what, I think I will. Anyone who wants to submit Sim Smut for Simoleans, you know wher to find me

Also, question: this DemiMayorJosh character in those BBS threads, is that who I think it is?

[vexed]

Vague "Statement" is vague.

New EULA to agree to or it didn't happen.  Even it's just on login to the TS2 website, given the lack of new TS2 games on the horizon.

But even if there was a new EULA, it wouldn't and couldn't be retroactive.  It wouldn't change the fact that paysites have been doing the wrong thing since Day 1.

[Paleoanth]

I just realized: she made a statement that endorses the rights of people to sell Sim porn.

DO EET. Make a proof of concept site selling porn just to get them to shut you down.

You know what, I think I will. Anyone who wants to submit Sim Smut for Simoleans, you know wher to find me

Also, question: this DemiMayorJosh character in those BBS threads, is that who I think it is?

I am so tempted.

I think it is ManagerJosh.  Paysite supporter.

[minionsRmine]

It is most certainly ManagerJosh from WorldSims. Creator Camp visitor, paysite supporter, and likely Maxoid wannabe.

[Pescado]

The thing about the EULA is that it doesn't say anything at all about paysites. It DOES, however, explicitly say that we CAN do this. Also, wording like "should" sort of lacks legal force, given that paysites similarly ignore these sorts of rules, except they pretend they aren't.

[scrappysim]

  Why do so many of them still think that a Maxiod=EA?  Why are they so convinced that a moderator of a forum board for 12's had the ability to speak on behalf of a multi-million dollar company.  It is just absurd.  Maxiod's are nothing more than glorified mods with no real contact with EA at all.  Everytime that Drea comes in and makes a statement and the sheeple go looking for clarification there is never anyone around.  If EA had sent her to make the statement (anyone see anything wrong with that chain of events) why wouldn't EA or "the sim's team" be there to back it up?