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« Reply #15 on: 2007 September 18, 22:07:37 »
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It's a shame you let ThomARSE con you into going back by making ATWAT an FA. He must have chosen her as she was the cheapest to pay so for the price of her, he got to continue selling your creations.

At least ATWAT can be happy to know the real reason behind her promotion.
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« Reply #16 on: 2007 September 18, 22:38:47 »
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Quote from: "deathtotsr"
Quote from: "armywife"
I agree Soupie and Hawk, I didn't get that either from what she said.  

Netseeker2, I do have a question.  How is TSR recruiting all of these high profile artists?  And what is the relationship between TSR and EA?


That I wouldn't know the answer to for sure, all I know is he does solicit off site by checking out other sites and then emailing the artists and offering them a "position" on TSR first as just an artist in the ranks for a few months (so that they're not recruited and made FA raw from offsite - and so it gives the users a chance to see their name and get used to the fact that they're there). But I also have a feeling that some of the paysites that are getting hit by this group, are closing up and offering to post their material there in return for an FAship. These artists objectives is and probably always has been to make money on their work and so when their site or method of money making is being jeopardized and they can't handle the pressure put on them from this site, they close up shop and migrate to TSR - so in a way I think this site is basically helping TSR get some of the artists that run some of the other paysites.

Please no crawling down my back about this, it's just a conjecture I have after seeing some of the sites in the booty section and their last postings there and in the inactive section (and in some cases it coincides with when those FAs  who are FAs there now had their sites closed/jeopardized by this group).


If there are paysiters who are willing to not go free and be berated and mistreated by TSR because of us I think a few of us would say that we have no hand in that. They have other options too. Such as MTS2, a free host, or even hosting their creations on LiveJournal or Blogspot. They have options even if the only one they see is payment.
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« Reply #17 on: 2007 September 18, 22:39:46 »
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Thank you for sharing your story with us, Netseeker.  

I'm sorry you went through with what you did but I feel you were also very smart about having evidence so it's not just a "he said, she said" situation!  Hopefully from all this you will not have to experience this in the future.

Thomass is scum.  I hope he gets back what's coming to him real soon.
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« Reply #18 on: 2007 September 19, 00:01:55 »
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Wow......what an ass he is. Sorry you went thru this. And it seems a shame to me that everyone has had to resort to taking pics of conversations, etc to prove what happened between two parties.

So many LIARS in this community, makes me sick.  :evil:
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« Reply #19 on: 2007 September 19, 00:28:33 »
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Thanks for sharing your story, netseeker. Adding yours to the stories of Sherrie, IcedMango, Solander, and Twig, no one can say it's just a disgruntled artist. Clearly there's a serious pattern of insanity and abuse.

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« Reply #20 on: 2007 September 19, 01:56:22 »
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guh. thomas is such a dink, I'm sorry you got boned so badly netseeker - that's the exact reason why I don't even have an account on TSR to snoop with...I don't want anything to do with them.

it's just a shame to see the GOOD ones treated like garbage by them while the bad ones like Atwat run rampant (aside: if I wanted to pay for a twat on the net, I'd give my credit card to a porn site :roll:) with their MSPaint creations. I don't condone paysites at all but ffs, don't you want quality over quantity when it comes to taking people's monies?

people should create because they enjoy it and want to contribute to the community, not because someone's cracking a whip at them to churn out cookie cutter crap.
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« Reply #21 on: 2007 September 19, 02:02:00 »
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Quote from: "Captain Feathersword"

At least ATWAT can be happy to know the real reason behind her promotion.


She's always known, she engineered the whole thing.

*waves hi to Netseeker*
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« Reply #22 on: 2007 September 19, 02:17:33 »
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Amazing after reading all of this about tsr from many different creators that anyone there can still defend the place. And that people still vie for the "coveted" FA status.

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« Reply #23 on: 2007 September 19, 02:20:32 »
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Amazing after reading all of this about tsr from many different creators that anyone there can still defend the place. And that people still vie for the "coveted" FA status.

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FA = fiscally aspired, imo.
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« Reply #24 on: 2007 September 19, 02:55:41 »
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Quote from: "sherrie"
Quote from: "Captain Feathersword"

At least ATWAT can be happy to know the real reason behind her promotion.


She's always known, she engineered the whole thing.

*waves hi to Netseeker*


I thought you were being facetious in your little video. Now that I've read all those emails, a novel in one day. I see you were being serious. She (Anita) has it bad for Thomas, and he probably is making her think there is hope for the two of them. I'm willing to bet we'd find similar emails between him and Suzy as well, she follows behind him like a long lost puppy looking for scraps. Defending her man and his board. While he pretends to be someone else. Thomas seems to be yet another that suffers from the paranoid dellusions of, "They're all out to get me, even the people on my own board. I hear the whispers. Tell me what did you hear? Did you find out anything?" Then Suzy and Anita stand behind him, it's all true I heard the whispers too, honey. Give me just have a few moments to make up some things, so you'll be happy. Just another soap opera only the names have change. Maybe Jan/Jan/Bev/Thomas are in reality all the same person. Sybil the remake.
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« Reply #25 on: 2007 September 19, 04:12:31 »
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Quote from: "deathtotsr"
But I also have a feeling that some of the paysites that are getting hit by this group, are closing up and offering to post their material there in return for an FAship.


As far as this part of your theory goes, I hope you're right, as it would be even more evidence of the impact PMBD is having on the overall performance of paysites.

It also would make a lot of sense. Before, it was almost frustrating to hear about yet another creator heading over to TSR. It seemed like Thomas had some sort of incredible sway over creators. Your theory, if correct, just confirms that it was simply the desire of these creators to continue to suck money out of the community after their own sites were failing.

Thanks for taking a stand and posting, netseeker. For my part, I believe that the more people can see what kind of crap goes on behind the scenes at tsr, the more likely they are to see what a bunch of bullshitters Thomas and his gang really are.
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« Reply #26 on: 2007 September 19, 04:44:35 »
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As Pesc said in some other antique post:   Good, if they're all in the same place that means only 1 subscription!
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« Reply #27 on: 2007 September 19, 04:54:20 »
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Quote from: "sherrie"
Quote from: "Captain Feathersword"

At least ATWAT can be happy to know the real reason behind her promotion.


She's always known, she engineered the whole thing.

*waves hi to Netseeker*


*waves hi back to Sherrie* Smiley
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« Reply #28 on: 2007 September 19, 05:13:06 »
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Amazing after reading all of this about tsr from many different creators that anyone there can still defend the place. And that people still vie for the "coveted" FA status.

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People still do.

I'm glad that netseeker2 is no longer there also. I'm glad to see you out of such a nasty situation at a nasty place (I didn't mention that before, forgive me).

I find it sad that so many FAs and just general downloaders think that TSR is just such a nice little place to go and get your goodies and that everything is so fair and decent there. I'm glad that we have creators that come here and tell us what really goes on.
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« Reply #29 on: 2007 September 19, 05:28:33 »
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Thank you so much everyone for such incredible understanding and support. I was reluctant to come here (well I guess part of that was the brainwashing I underwent by Atwa et al) but I have to say I am 100% totally impressed with all of you and all of your rationale and behaviour. For once in my TS2 life I've actually started a thread that got to be pretty near 2 pages long without any verbal abuse directed towards me. That alone is something (I have to mark that one on a calendar somewhere).  But I really never expected to see all of your rationale and reasoning on this the way it has evolved, I thought for sure when I was asked about how they recruited from off site part of my answer would unleash a fury of attacks against me. Instead you all actually realize the way it was meant when I wrote it. Wow that is totally impressive!  :lol:   Cheesy  So thank you so much again for allowing me to post my anti-TSR diatribe in here and for actually understanding it the way it was written, without attacking me over it. Your behaviour and even level of intelligence far outweighs anything I've seen on TSR ever in any of the forums there.  I will say that.
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