Except he didn't copy and paste the information such as he did for Insimenator, but rather related it - you can tell clearly by the font.  There's no rule about never talking about it, nor could there ever be.

Yes - that's what I did yesterday. They don't allow dissemination for any purpose.  That's what I quoted to you yesterday.  Godaddy is different - so take this:  as me poking my tongue out at you.

This proves to me, without a shadow of a doubt, that you've never even glanced at the TSR posts coconut made. You would've known. My bet is you heard about all of this on the TSR forums, or a forum that supports that cultish way of thinking, and came here to tell us nasty thieves what's what.

That or you're a complete idiot.

So how are you going to have it? Misguided sheep or asshole troll?

[... keeps going on about terms of use etc ...]

Moreover, drborken didn't actually print a private person's name, phone number or anything else, nor did they threaten to ring them.

im also seeing that the domain for TSR is owned by a Johan Isacsson, which is interesting, as ive been told by someone else that its meant to be owned by a steve something?

What the... No. Just no. We all looked at those links and didn't see anything like it. People said as much. And nice job ignoring any and all posts that may have been a challenge to explain away. Ignoring everyone and stomping your foot because nobody listens to you is a tactic usually reserved for 3 year olds. For fuck's sake, can't you tell what a miserable little shit you're being? Don't complain we're ignoring your points while you skirt around any and all issues that arise with them.

Here's a hint: if about two dozen people agree on something and in the end you're left with a soapbox and a nasty temper, it may be time to concider you're just plain wrong.

There we go then. No more "But it was in private!". That was Thomas' defence as well and as has been pointed out, it's bullshit. Bringing the info to you once again, because you can't be arsed to seek it out yourself:



1. Thomas lies about what is shared.
2. He admits that real names were shared in a post where he hopes to prove his snow white innocence.
3. He uses the "private" defense, which I hope we have established is bull.
4. He accuses people of theft, which is also untrue.

The reason I'm throwing this screenshot out here (because it hasn't got to do with what happened in that new thread) is because I want you to see that you are defending untrustworthy people. That Thomas lies and pulls the wool over your eyes. Frankly, that you've been indoctrinated and lied to by someone who has no problems creating his own version of reality. You wanted to educate us? Then man up and be prepared to be educated yourself. You've been doing some flip-flopping. That's good. Now go all the way and admit you are wrong in defending these people.

Smart things have been said about this. In fact, I don't have anything to add except maybe one thing. That same thread? Go back to the very first page. See that post from Paden, with the letter? That used to have his full name, address and phone number attached. Now look at the replies to it, one of the first. Oh no, wait, you like to be spoonfed:


Good job defeating your own argument. Apparently us damn dirty pirates won't even post personal information if the person whom it belongs to does it himself.

Repeating what more eloquent people have said here, but can we please drop your "it was private" argument you keep insisting on? It has already been pointed out that it wasn't private and they had excellent reason to believe it wasn't. It's not like they're not aware of coconut and what he/she does. It's not like this came out of nowhere, hence our suspicion that this was leaked on purpose and that you are trying to rile us up and drag us to the dark side.

But for argument's sake, let's assume they thought his was actually private, that nobody would ever get to see this. Does that make it less of a crime? In my country, planning a crime is just as illegal as commiting one (and harassment is a crime) and I can't imagine that's very different elsewhere. If police officers were to stumble upon a group of criminals planning to hold up a bank, do you think they'd back away and leave them to it just because they were discussing it in private and hadn't actually done it yet?

Doing bad things behind everyone's back doesn't make them harmless. If fact, you could argue that if someone chooses to do or say something in a place where they assume nobody will ever hear or see, they know they're doing something wrong. The fact that they thought it was private makes it worse, not better.

That got me to thinking, so I went over to TSR and did some poking.  When you sign up for an account, they ask for some pretty personal information.   Stuff that no one would put without some assurance.  They give you an assurance too:


(Bolding was added by me)

TSR can't even follow their own rules.  No, I don't consider their FA's to be "TSR."  They could be considered employees of TSR, but that's different.  And, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't see it saying, "To be able to send prizes and post in our FA forum, if we suspect you of being a pirate." 

Were you born this stupid, or did you have to take special lessons?  Or, have you never checked out Coconut's journal?  Coconut blanked out the parts with the information.  If coconut hadn't done that, we'd be yelling at her.  She blurred it.   She did NOT share personal information. What she has done was shown us proof that TSR was sharing personal information. 

That statement is so full of fail I hardly know where to begin. First of all, there are quite a few FA's, and as former FA's have told us, they aren't all close personal friends.  And, even if they are, what's wrong is wrong.  If I share personal information about someone with my friends, that doesn't make it right.

And wrong is wrong.  I don't care who you're with.  If I say, "God, that person pissed me off,  stealing my meshes, I'd like to smack her upside the head" with my friends, that's one thing.  If they are close friends, they will know that the threat is empty.  On the other hand, if I say, "That person stole my meshes and here is her address and phone number, we're not going to let her get away with it," that's quite another.    And you know what?  I know my friends well enough and trust them enough that were I to do such a thing, they would say, "Okay Darqstar, you crossed the line.  I understand you being upset, but what you're asking is just wrong." 

I will admit that the phone call crack on the jassims.com thread could be interpreted as a joke.  The stuff about banning was not.  The stuff in the paypal thread was not, except for some really bad renditions of Another one bites the dust.

why is it silly? Because BG got caught doing something wrong and you don't like it?

Linky please.

Nope. TSR. They kept writing long after it all came out.

Sasilia shared the information on TSR, and is an FA dipshit - and since TSR isn't actually a person, but an entity, then yes, TSR. I was never fuzzy - I have all the information and you have ponied up nothing but supposition and bullshit.

They're not among friends - they're at work among fellow employees.

Darqstar owes me $10. It's quite obvious you will never see illegality as illegality. Your argument is fail if you refuse to acknowledge they ever did anything wrong.

You can release someone's entire name and address without being "serious"? Ookay. What's the weather like on your planet?

Also, I'm getting the impression that you think we should trust all the FAs with our information. Why would we want to do this?

I think you don't know the meaning of the word "evidence". Further, you are confusing assertion with argument. I recommend you read these lessons carefully: http://skepdic.com/refuge/ctlessons.html

* They knew that forum was being published online - so they did not care about whether it was public or not - they are confident in sheeple loyalty - more fool them. You're also making the assumption that jassims would consent to have information of hers copypasta'd all over the web.
* FA from TSR is good enough for me - and the fact that they did not delete it. Since you haven't read it, you are truly talking out of your arse.
* Did it ever occur to you that rarely is anyone truly unbiased, particularly those liable to debate it - if you think we're going to look to you as an unbiased messiah, think again TSRbot.

Out of context? How is suggesting calling a person who sells your mesh reasonable - put that harassment in any context you like. Then put it in the context of the entire post, which was in fact screenshotted, and therefore *is in context*. You can crap on about out of context when it's one line - but in the context of previous information sharing going on, with paypal information disclosure threats, and them actually publishing information unnecessarily, over and over, BlackGarden and ulkrhsn are deeply, deeply stupid.

And if you think I'm going to get into details with you about what I think about coconut, you're sadly mistaken. What I know, what I think, you are the very last person that I would discuss this with. You're clearly looking for a way to hurt them, and they have done nothing but help our cause and make fewer subscribers. Seeing as TSR outright lies, often and all the time - why exactly is it a bad thing that there is one dissenter? Answer is, it's not. 

And in fact, BlackGarden (what a surprise) has broken the terms of whois:


So in context, again - she's not only breaking social mores of the sims community, but also the terms of use for whois. By disseminating that information, she has actually broke the rules of that site. But we already know she completely ignores terms and legal contracts unless they're in her interest. Bugger the actual law - BlackGarden does what she likes.

* It's logical - private means private, the opposite of public.  They now know their forum is public, yet they choose to continue being info sharing dicks.
* You know it's not about TSR? It's about TSR - Sasilia and her sharing of Paypal information at TSR, so score is not reset.  I have authoritative information, and you do not.
* Because you're not going to see any private information - ever, and coconut owes you nothing - particularly as everything they would say would be countered by you. I mean they showed TSR publishing private information, with names, addresses and emails, long after they were any use, and you said "well it happened long ago - a whole five months - it's over now". So nothing would be good enough for you - why bother.

For the record, defamation has to be untrue. With all the screenshots about it, this is why TSR isn't screaming about defamation.  And that's why BlackGarden and ulkrhsn will not be able to talk about being defamed - they were in fact, revealed.

* It is open to everyone - that's how I read it. Not private. Sharkbait is in fact more private. You have no evidence of sneaking involved - coconut could be anyone.
* So you still have no evidence, and I'm one up on you - the apology from the paysite owner who threatened, and did it (and who subsequently quit not realising she'd catch such hell for her actions).  Read this thread Calalily - 1, Macaque - 0 Who has more evidence.....let me think.
* You surely don't sound like someone in coconut's inner circle, and seeing as I get private messages and private viewings not publically released, then I'd say I'm pretty sure.


Yeah, but it's not macaque being harassed, so why should macaque care. Isn't that right macaque?