Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples

[PirateBooty]

God for someone that old, his tantrums seem a whole hell of a lot MORE pathetic.

[Soup Parrot]

63 EXNEM, todays his birthday? Well I sure do hope he enjoys his present from you all when it arrives! :twisted:

[jesserocket]

63? Heavens.

[Soup Parrot]

beosboy blocked my post where I wrote under Exnems preview, Doues Exnem have a license for the disney and pacman, just wondering?Reason off topic! Exnem was the topic you want me to start a separate thread on over there where they are discussing Peggy?

[joannajuen]

beosboy blocked my post where I wrote under Exnems preview, Doues Exnem have a license for the disney and pacman, just wondering?

Once I can find the right e-mail address to contact them at, I plan to ask Disney that myself.

[graniaomalley]

So, correct me if I"m wrong, but you're saying that exnemsims violates copyright, that exnemsims violates Disney's copyright, and that exnemsims is also oddly old yet acts like a spoiled, small child? I wonder if paypal is aware that exnemsims is also charging money via their service for adult content. If I were paypal, I think I'd be upset that exnemsims is violating their terms of use. I expect Disney would also be a bit irked that exnemsims is violating Disney's copright.

[LesserOr]

Well the ones of Exnem's that you have to pm Lyriclee about are the adult skins - it is against paypal terms of use to post nude skins - so its just written all over the forum that you have to contact Lyric Lee to get them - one would think that paypal would also have a problem with this, buuut....

Yes, but only if they're referred to as adult, nude, anatomically correct, etc.
It can't just be common knowledge or implied. "The files that were here before" probably won't count, unless it's obnoxiously obvious that Exnem and Lyric Lee are circumventing the rules.

Even if not, enough complaints would get Paypal moving. I seriously doubt Exnem and Lyric Lee are the first to weasel this way.

Trivia:
The Muppet Show muppets are Disney now. Disney Legal is more prone to sue over them because the Henson rights were split, and some of the other buyers retained limited use over what Disney acquired (Sesame Street is still allowed to show old Kermit sketches, for instance.)
And as you've likely noticed, Disney's been pimping them out to any takers lately, so they're especially trigger happy.

[Soup Parrot]

My post didnt make sense I was sOOOO sleepy.
Lol was reating to insiminator making my thread disappear.

If we can get evidence that Rose or peggy stole copyrighted meshes, which is what HP I working on. Then we can contact paypal in mass, with the copyright holders of the original mesh filing a complaint too. Now how many subscribers would they loose without a paypal option?  Anytime I see that Bank stransfer nonsense to another country, I dont even consider it, paypal safer.

[HystericalParoxysm]

Well, if I can prove a mesh is stolen to my own satisfaction, I think it should then be up to the Poser artist and/or their legal counsel to contact the "creator" of the stolen hair to give them a chance to pull it and issue an apology and notice to their downloaders to delete the item.  

Though the location of the sites in question may make that more difficult (and there's no telling what the "creators" will say in response, if anything), there is a right way to do something like that, a set of steps that the Poser creator should take to protect their intellectual property, and I'm leaving that particular part up to them, if and when it comes to that.

I know it's all about crushing paysites here, but if it comes down to something being stolen, I think it'd be rather satisfying to watch them have to destroy their own credibility, pulling half their catalogue and issuing an apology, rather than having to go through a lot of effort with a bunch of different folks to discredit them.

[Soup Parrot]

Hp I agree that would all give us satisfaction to see. The problem is the two sites in question are in China, last time I looked China was still not cooperating with respect to intellectual property in regards to copyrights and all. So its kind of like, while it may work on someone doing this in EU, North America, Australia, etc, our course of action is kind of limited to how we can stop them, especially after I saw a post at Insim, that sounds like many wont care either out there. So, I think best bet is to have them loose Paypal. And if they get a new option of payment, hit that one, etc till they finnally have no options of easy safe payment left. I need though to check on China's status when I have free time to verify it. It be nice to do it the first way.

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I know it's all about crushing paysites here, but if it comes down to something being stolen, I think it'd be rather satisfying to watch them have to destroy their own credibility, pulling half their catalogue and issuing an apology, rather than having to go through a lot of effort with a bunch of different folks to discredit them.

And as fun as the screaming drama is, doing it that way is going to make all of us look a lot more credible and our position that much more attractive.

[stim]

last time I looked China was still not cooperating with respect to intellectual property in regards to copyrights and all.

Since China entered the WTO, and was backed by more than a few US & Japanese corporations in making it the worlds industrial darling, China loves copyright. The government loves to please those with money. Unfortunately, that's exactly that. If, say, Disney or Toyota came knocking on their door, they'd listen. They'd jump through hoops and not only prove that the situation was taken care of, but everyone responsible was fired, everyone responsible for fixing the mess was given a raise, and they cured cancer along the way.

Poser artists, though, didn't invest billions of dollars in their economy.

[The ISZ]

beosboy blocked my post where I wrote under Exnems preview, Doues Exnem have a license for the disney and pacman, just wondering?

Once I can find the right e-mail address to contact them at, I plan to ask Disney that myself.

I already did that and the dude read the email, but did not reply back to me.

[Soup Parrot]

how do you know he read it

[torque]

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