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Topic: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples (Read 82149 times)
lordrichter
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Posts: 36
Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples
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Reply #135 on:
2007 January 03, 12:46:48 »
On your web forum where you put your paysite disclaimer, you should change "donation is completely voluntary" to be more specific. To some people, all donations are completely voluntary. You might want to tie it back to the gifts, or getting something in return for the donation.
Aside, how did it come about that selling stuff is now a donation? I guess I donate to Walmart when I go there, now?
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Soup Parrot
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Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples
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Reply #136 on:
2007 January 03, 12:55:14 »
Lord good point you should post that omment over at our EA boards thread
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lordrichter
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Posts: 36
Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples
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Reply #137 on:
2007 January 03, 13:23:28 »
I would, but I don't see a lot of confusion or discussion going on about donations right now.
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calalily
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Belili, wife of Ningishzida - or Kali for short
Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples
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Reply #138 on:
2007 January 03, 13:37:19 »
Would someone with a paypal account lodge a complaint against exnem?
Under their policy:
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Your Information and your activities (including your payments and receipt of payments) through our Service shall not: (a) be false, inaccurate or misleading; (b) be fraudulent or involve the sale of counterfeit or stolen items; (c) consist of providing yourself a cash advance from your credit card (or helping others to do so), (d) be related in any way to gambling and/or gaming activities, including but not limited to payment or the acceptance of payments for wagers, gambling debts or gambling winnings, regardless of the location or type of gambling activity (including online and offline casinos, sports wagering and office pools); (e)violate PayPal's Acceptable Use Policy; (f)
infringe on any third party's copyright, patent, trademark, trade secret or other property rights or rights of publicity or privacy
; (g) violate any law, statute, ordinance, contract or regulation (including, but not limited to, those governing financial services, consumer protection, unfair competition, antidiscrimination, or false advertising); (h) be defamatory, trade libelous, unlawfully threatening or unlawfully harassing; (i) be obscene or contain child pornography; (j) contain any viruses, Trojan horses, worms, time bombs cancelbots, easter eggs or other computer programming routines that may damage, detrimentally interfere with, surreptitiously intercept or expropriate any system, data or other personal information; or (k) create liability for us or cause us to lose (in whole or in part) the services of our ISP's or other suppliers. If you use, or attempt to use the Service for purposes other than sending and receiving payments and managing your account, including but not limited to tampering, hacking, modifying or otherwise corrupting the security or functionality of Service, your account will be terminated and you will be subject to damages and other penalties, including criminal prosecution where available.
That covers almost everything he's made.
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Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples
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Reply #139 on:
2007 January 03, 13:39:21 »
Cala, dont think he uses Paypal, let me go check. I thought it was another format.
Oh great now notice you click on DONATE button, thats deceptive:
now look what it says:
So you want to become a member of Exnem's Sims?... Great! Simply subscribe using your paypal account or credit card and you'll be downloading thousands of stuff in no time.
For our grand re-opening we are lowering the subscription fee from 7$ to 5$ for a limited time to show our appreciation to all our members.
Currently we have 1000s of objects of the best quality you can find in the net. But don't take my word for it, just browse our site, forums and downloads areas to prove it yourself.
I guess its now Paypal too...? He does the donate sub switcheroo too :x
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BlueSoup
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Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples
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Reply #140 on:
2007 January 03, 15:08:01 »
Quote from: "lordrichter"
On your web forum where you put your paysite disclaimer, you should change "donation is completely voluntary" to be more specific. To some people, all donations are completely voluntary. You might want to tie it back to the gifts, or getting something in return for the donation.
Aside, how did it come about that selling stuff is now a donation? I guess I donate to Walmart when I go there, now?
When you tie it to a gift, it ceases to become completely voluntary and becomes selling said item. Which is the same as Walmart, stupid LordRichter. This is what we've been saying all along!
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Soup Parrot
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Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples
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Reply #141 on:
2007 January 03, 15:18:26 »
Rose's fax complaint about this site said it all, she referenced the people as consumers ie same as customers.
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Captain Feathersword
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Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples
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Reply #142 on:
2007 January 03, 15:32:41 »
I think Lord Richter was suggesting an edit so it sounds more like "A donation by definition is.." so it is more obvious that what paysites are saying is wrong.
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Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples
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Reply #143 on:
2007 January 03, 16:48:01 »
Quote from: "Soup Parrot"
Currently we have 1000s of objects of the best quality you can find in the net. But don't take my word for it, just browse our site, forums and downloads areas to prove it yourself.
Thousands? Really? I find that hard to believe.
Edit: I went to investigate that claim, but the site appears to be down. Hmm.
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Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples
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Reply #144 on:
2007 January 03, 16:51:59 »
Quote from: "calalily"
Would someone with a paypal account lodge a complaint against exnem?
Under their policy:
Quote
Your Information and your activities (including your payments and receipt of payments) through our Service shall not: (a) be false, inaccurate or misleading; (b) be fraudulent or involve the sale of counterfeit or stolen items; (c) consist of providing yourself a cash advance from your credit card (or helping others to do so), (d) be related in any way to gambling and/or gaming activities, including but not limited to payment or the acceptance of payments for wagers, gambling debts or gambling winnings, regardless of the location or type of gambling activity (including online and offline casinos, sports wagering and office pools); (e)violate PayPal's Acceptable Use Policy; (f)
infringe on any third party's copyright, patent, trademark, trade secret or other property rights or rights of publicity or privacy
; (g) violate any law, statute, ordinance, contract or regulation (including, but not limited to, those governing financial services, consumer protection, unfair competition, antidiscrimination, or false advertising); (h) be defamatory, trade libelous, unlawfully threatening or unlawfully harassing; (i) be obscene or contain child pornography; (j) contain any viruses, Trojan horses, worms, time bombs cancelbots, easter eggs or other computer programming routines that may damage, detrimentally interfere with, surreptitiously intercept or expropriate any system, data or other personal information; or (k) create liability for us or cause us to lose (in whole or in part) the services of our ISP's or other suppliers. If you use, or attempt to use the Service for purposes other than sending and receiving payments and managing your account, including but not limited to tampering, hacking, modifying or otherwise corrupting the security or functionality of Service, your account will be terminated and you will be subject to damages and other penalties, including criminal prosecution where available.
That covers almost everything he's made.
Tell me how to lodge one and I'll do it!
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calalily
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Belili, wife of Ningishzida - or Kali for short
Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples
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Reply #145 on:
2007 January 03, 16:54:06 »
Don't believe it - I'm a pedantic fucker, and I went over to their site after
Lyriclee
claimed that
Exnem
was very generous.
This is a quote of what I said on s2c that the gutless
Lyriclee
hasn't bothered to reply to.
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Lyric Lee:
Actually no beth- Our site has about 800 free files and 300 donation items. And exnem has shared alot for free. Please don't outright lie.
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In matter of fact, exnem has not shared a lot of things. I just went and did a search on your forum for all of his uploads. There were 11 free items (several of which were recolours of one hair mesh) There are however, 64 pay files - 9 of which are maxi recolours. Exnem doesn't seem to be sharing a lot there - and as for the community downloads, there are 300 in the subscriber area, and as 500 are community downloads - that means hosted there for free, and of course, including those 11 items exnem has generously given *!*
And to
Piratebooty
go to this page, login (it won't let me)
http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_security-center-outside
and click on violations of paypal policy on the right hand side.
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PirateBooty
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Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples
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Reply #146 on:
2007 January 03, 17:05:27 »
That's because
LyricLee
knows she can't back up her bullshit claims about
exnemsims
exnemsims
exnemsims
exnemsims
exnemsims
edit: thanks I'll file a complaint now
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Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples
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Reply #147 on:
2007 January 03, 17:19:04 »
Wow, okay, I'm not one to double post (hate it usually) but holy hell. I went to file the complaint and tried to go to his site to give a direct link and ran into some fun. I've tried both IE and firefox, so I don't think it's a browser issue - is this happening for anyone else?
The exnemsims main page loads totally blank nothing on it. The forum pages return a database error saying
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Database error
The database has encountered a problem.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Please try the following:
Load the page again by clicking the Refresh button in your web browser.
Open the exnemsims.com home page, then try to open another page.
Click the Back button to try another link.
The exnemsims.com forum technical staff have been notified of the error, though you may contact them if the problem persists.
We apologise for any inconvenience.
I wonder if the site is just borked or if we're seeing some more drama
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exnemsims
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Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples
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Reply #148 on:
2007 January 03, 17:22:25 »
It's coming up with a blank white page for me. I think it's deliberate because there is html source on the page.
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Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples
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Reply #149 on:
2007 January 03, 17:23:53 »
I prefer double posting than editing - otherwise most people miss your added bit as it doesn't flag as an unread message.
After we clear up all these paysites I am going to start a pro-double-posting movement.
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