I smell bullshit

[yamikuronue]

about the hobby thing:

I just want to add that if it is a hobby, why are people spending so much time bitching about it and so little time doing it? If it's not fun anymore, don't do it.

[Skadi]

What I find interesting is the sense of entitlement that exists with paysite creators. Its getting less and less "bandwidth" and more and more "I made this so I deserve to be paid for it, cause it took hours .

BTW - Blue - Inside info:

Sapphire Sims recently tried to entice Windkeeper away from TSR, but they couldn't come close to affording her, she is definitely keen on the bucks. Also if TSR really really likes a creator they will offer upto US $200 for them to close their old site. This may not apply to everyone, like Suzy's not exclusive, so maybe they don't deem her worthy of as much money. But greed plays bigtime in some FA's motivation.

[BlueSoup]

Sapphire Sims recently tried to entice Windkeeper away from TSR, but they couldn't come close to affording her, she is definitely keen on the bucks. Also if TSR really really likes a creator they will offer upto US $200 for them to close their old site. This may not apply to everyone, like Suzy's not exclusive, so maybe they don't deem her worthy of as much money. But greed plays bigtime in some FA's motivation.

Hmm....I already knew some FA's were not making as much money as others.  But "they couldn't come close to affording her"?  I wonder just wnat TSR is paying her.

[Skadi]

I know people who are somewhat tight with Ginger, and her words were "we couldn't come close to offering her what TSR does."

Windkeeper was willing to move, for the right price.

[BlueSoup]

I know people who are somewhat tight with Ginger, and her words were "we couldn't come close to offering her what TSR does."

Windkeeper was willing to move, for the right price.

Hmm very interesting.  Thanks for the inside info!

[maxon]

What I find interesting is the sense of entitlement that exists with paysite creators. Its getting less and less "bandwidth" and more and more "I made this so I deserve to be paid for it, cause it took hours .

All those hours eh?  It takes me only, what?, a year to write a book.

[Camilla]

I've had a recurring sub with TSR for years, but cancelled it when it was reported that the paysites were divulging names, etc. of their PayPal customers. I would speculate that they might have lost other subscribers because of that.

[blackmars]

about the hobby thing:

I just want to add that if it is a hobby, why are people spending so much time bitching about it and so little time doing it? If it's not fun anymore, don't do it.

If you're talking about that whiny ass Forward Motion's I agree.

[Doursim]

Honestly, I bet they didn't lose that many over the paypal thing.  I heard in another forum something about rose and paypal, but NO ONE in the forum knew what the hell had happened (Britts Love Couture forum).  When everyone asked she was completly mum about it)  I didn't know the details till I came here.  I bet you MOST people never knew it happened.

Good example of this is when Blue posted the link comparing Carla Niven to Rat Productions.  I generally felt like Rat Productions was a relativly famous site, but lots of people posted in that thread thanking blue for a site they had never visited.  I was thinking "Had they NEVER been to another sites link page before!?"  So, its very easy to be out of the loop about stuff like that.  Especially if the only person you get your news from is TSR, S2C or the BBS.

[BlueSoup]

I have a custom content listing of over 225 sites, free and pay, so I think I am going to have heard of some sites that no one else has.  I also check out Bines and other sites like that every day.

[bollocks]

Is there a place where such a list of freesites can be seen?

[zatanna]

I beleive Blue Soup said that the list he has, has free and pay on it

[icedwhitemocha]

I beleive Blue Soup said that the list he has, has free and pay on it

lol...

[BlueSoup]

I'm a girl dammit!

[RedLove]

:lol: