Alice Fashion -- Dead/News

[alicefashion]

I don't want to enter in a polemical and useless discusses.

The fact is : Do you see pay skins on the website actually ?

And while you talk about law, do you know how many hours that take to make a beautiful skin ? So for you it's normal that pirate websites propose original creation (based on meshes and first skins by Electronic Arts yes of course) for free ?

It's the same that divx and MP3. For you it's normal to download mp3 songs from singers who made several months to make and produce songs ?

Electronic Arts never sent us any email or legal letter. Why ? Because the creations of Alice and other sims fans and creators, are good for business. More people are addicts, more peoples will buy new Sims Updates. So stop annoying me with your legal questions.

And yes 2000+ visitors / day on a website, it needs a good hosting, with good database capacities, to satisfy AliceFashion's visitors

[keirra]

You came to a phorum that's about destroying paysites and expected us to embrace your paysite?  LOL, you're funny.

[alicefashion]

to alia : Thanks, I don't have any problem with the "paysite" fact. I saw Alice make skins for hours and hours and seeing people discussing about false law reasons make me tired... (sorry for my english)

AliceFashion give to Sims community hundreds of free skins and maybe 5% in donation set...

I think that lawyer addicts on this board should look on bigger "paysite" before to talk about AliceFashion...

I don't really understand anybody. I make effort to bring back AliceFashion skins to everybody, for free, and there are always people to be negatives...

[alicefashion]

I came to a forum in order to answer to the author "Jessica" and to inform the Sims Community that AliceFashion is back with all the free skins...

That's all

[lemmiwinks]

Hosting is free. "Donation Sets" are not free. You are a paysite.

[alia]

Well, I think there is some confusion as to whether the Alicefashions donation sets will be back (as paysets). If not, congratulations on going free! 

As to creating paysets being legal, here's a quote from money better spent I linked in my earlier post:

I've seen a number of legal opinions floating around on the subject of paysites and I figured I'd chime in. It may come as a surprise, but in fact, sites charging for Sims 2 related objects are violating copyright laws and Electronic Arts' copyrights. In fact, what paysites are doing is illegal even without the EULA that comes bundled with The Sims 2. Furthermore, because what paysites are doing is illegal, any potential copyright claims that are made on most user-created content are invalid in a court of law.

This is a direct quote from EA's EULA:

You may include materials created with the Tools & Materials on your personal noncommercial website for the noncommercial benefit of the fan community for EA's products, provided this is beneficial to the product(s) in EA's judgment, and provided that if you do so, you must also post the following notice on your site on the same web page(s) where those materials are located: "This site is not endorsed by or affiliated with Electronic Arts, or its licensors. Trademarks are the property of their respective owners. Game content and materials copyright Electronic Arts Inc. and its licensors. All Rights Reserved." You will not represent that your site is endorsed or approved by or affiliated with EA or our licensors or that any other content on your site is endorsed or approved by or affiliated with EA or our licensors.

Why EA does not enforce their copyright, I have no idea. However, this makes filesharing donation sets completely legal.


ETA: Romain, this site does not target only Alicefashions or other smaller sites. Our main "enemy" if you so wish to call it, is the TSR, the biggest paysite there is.
We also have here several free creators who know how hard it can be to create new things for sims. However, these people feel that they have no right to ask money for their creations, even if it took hours to make them perfect.

[alicefashion]

to Lemmiwinks : I ask you again. Tell me where you see paying skins on AliceFashion ?

All skins will be free

[lemmiwinks]

Your first post. "You have hundreds of free skins and some Donation Sets."

[alia]

All skins will be free

So, no donation sets? 
Yay! Good for you!

[alicefashion]

So I'm proud to be clear with you all : ALL SKINS WILL BE FREE. PAST DONATION SETS ALSO

[lemmiwinks]

"You have hundreds of free skins and some Donation Sets. Money is for the hosting of the website, not for buying a yacht"

So are you getting no money for ""donations sets"? Are they free now? I am confused.

[alicefashion]

I put online free skins for now, that I can each day.

Then, I'll add skins who was in donation sets. They will be added with other free skins. So, they will be free

[alia]

Yay! Awesome news! 
Sorry for the curt tone of my fellow pirates, it was just a misunderstanding.

As soon as you've added the former pay skins to Alicefashions, they will be taken out of the booty. 

[lemmiwinks]

Good for you. I misunderstood your original post. I apologize.
Welcome to PMBD. Please feel at home.

[Saraswati]

Alice I am very glad to hear you're not charging for your stuff.. Free site people all support each other. You'll find lots of friends.

There's a lady called Susim over at Cat and Susim's who has the same passion for Toddler clothing that you do.. It's nice to see someone specialising in that area, sometimes it's hard to do nice stuff with very limited meshes.