Wicked Sims takes a stand

[Apsalar]

This be so lovely an' delicious I wanna swash someone`s booty! Arr!

[SnarkyShark]

The sites back up and I just read the announcement and policy change.  ARRRR!

[MizzKitty]

Tsk, you all act as if it's a big surprise. Pirates always win!  :lol:

Disclaimer: Above statement is not supported of any evidence or fact.

[Jojoba]

O yay its back up

I think its darn good of WickedSims to do this...first S2C, then Mod, and now them. Looks like the free simming community is finally getting together..

[Paden]

Fucking A, matey! Break out the rum and let's celebrate! Really, this is a good thing for the community. Now people don't have to have the hands of greedy paysite owners in their pockets taking money that could be going to feed chilluns. In yer eye, Thomass!!

[snadradeocconer]

i might have missed something what did mts2 and the s2c do to change. Last i knew even mentioning psmbd would get you banned.

[alia]

Yay! Good for them!

And they even mention Simbella by name, LOL!  :lol:

[Jojoba]

i might have missed something what did mts2 and the s2c do to change

You can mention, link and talk about SVF and PMBD Most of the mods have a link in their siggy

[Quorneater]

Hmm problem...   The FFSS members voted to allow listing of sites that link to filesharing sites but not the filesharing sites themselves.  So if Wicked Sims were to have a recolour and say "get the mesh from [pmbd mesh link]" there would be no problem.   Unfortunately unless the members have a sea change (pirate theme pun there) in their views, Wicked Sims will end up off our list

[MoonDragon]

Hmm problem...   The FFSS members voted to allow listing of sites that link to filesharing sites but not the filesharing sites themselves.  So if Wicked Sims were to have a recolour and say "get the mesh from [pmbd mesh link]" there would be no problem.   Unfortunately unless the members have a sea change (pirate theme pun there) in their views, Wicked Sims will end up off our list

I'm glad Wicked Sims has seen the light.  EA has made their stance pretty clear.  We are SUPPOSED to be sharing files freely with each other.

Tell me, how does the approval or lack of approval by FFSS matter?  I've been to the site.  I've seen your silly little paysite-butt-kissing rules and rating system.  FFSS tries to walk somewhere inbetween advocating EA's position and advocating paysite owners supposed "rights".  FFSS tries to please everybody instead of taking a firm stance.  That kind of wishy-washy nonsense is not going to stop paysites and I've been glad also to see it when freesite owners have told your group exactly where you can stick your silly little button.  The last thing this community needs is  more rules to follow and the only thing your group seems to do is create more rules and attempt to enforce them by threat of losing buttons and, (as you said,) removal from your clique's list.

I'd much rather see the old file-share friendly banner that was big during The Sims 1 on a site than one of your buttons.  Those buttons promoted the kind of community I'm hoping we get back.  A credit link is enough recognition ... and good manners.  None of the other crap rules people want us to follow matter.  This is supposed to be a community of friendship and sharing, (this should be obvious just by its nature,) instead of a community of ego and regulations.

[Jojoba]

and advocating paysite owners supposed "rights".  FFSS tries to please everybody instead of taking a firm stance.  

It has worked so far Inge, but maybe it is time to put your foot down and take a firm stance (as MoonDragon says).

What percentage of the members say that they want filesharing sites to be linked? If its a big enough percentage (say over 1/4) then start a thread asking for reasons why...get a debate going...it could change some members opinions

I voted for linking to pirate sites...your site name is Federation For Free Sites, and the booty is free...so why not link it?  :wink:

[Marhis]

I'm so happy I could dance! *accidentally stomps the cat*

And I agree with CaptainJojoba; according to the most recent events, there seems to be no valid (and logical) reasons to be "against" free file sharing.

It seems also that there is one more reason to be against paysite advertising, as per the last official statement: supporting paysites means supporting illegal activities.

Oh what a mess.  :?

[Quinctia]

Hmm problem...   The FFSS members voted to allow listing of sites that link to filesharing sites but not the filesharing sites themselves.  So if Wicked Sims were to have a recolour and say "get the mesh from [pmbd mesh link]" there would be no problem.   Unfortunately unless the members have a sea change (pirate theme pun there) in their views, Wicked Sims will end up off our list

Sounds like it might be time to reevaluate your policies, in light of lots of other sites reevaluating theirs.

[Quorneater]

There was a vote at http://fffss.org/FFSSForum/index.php?topic=1940.0 and it was just under 20% of forum members wanted actual filesharing/pirate sites to be in the list.

The vote at http://fffss.org/FFSSForum/index.php?topic=2019.0 was to stop vetoing sites who simply linked to a filesharing site - and in this case it was just over 80% wanted us to stop holding the link against them.

So it looks like the majority of members made a clear distinction between sites that actually do it, and those that just are happy to send their users to pirate sites.  I am not sure why there was such a difference as in essence it has the same effect, but there you are.

One trouble is that there are a huge number of people here who would have swung the vote the other way, but as they have decided to boycott the site, they were unable to vote.  Go figure.  Sometimes displaying an attitude is more important than changing something you don't like, I guess.

[MoonDragon]

Your active members probably don't reflect enough variety of the community so your poll results are likely skewed.  I doubt I'm the only one who registered there, read through the site and determined I didn't want to come back or support your movement based on your policies.  You have to consider that your poll results primarily represent the thoughts of those who already agreed with the stance FFSS took.

If I had known about the vote, I probably would have cast mine too.  Was there a link here to these polls?  (I missed it if it was mentioned.)  Are these polls still open?  From your wording I take it that the polls are closed now.  In my case at least, it isn't about having an attitude and not being willing to do something about the things I don't like.  I just hadn't heard about it and am not one to frequent sites I don't care for unless I am given reason to.