Pimp My Sims

[avic]

I just went and looked around the front page and didn't see a donate button, nor did I see a link that said Donate in the navigation.  Sooo, offhand, I'd have to say no.

[Solander]

@sherry: i didn't complain about the costs, Pimp my Sims.com generates each month. I did choose to run a site like mine (as i pointed out above) and i have to deal with the consequences.

But if you start a huge party which is know for its fun factor, offer free beer as much as everyone likes and if you then don't charge anything, a little "hey, cool, thanks you did this" by at least some of the guests would be nice, hm? But with the feedback ratio at our site, you had to start a party for 2,500 people to have at least 1 person say thank you.

Ok, maybe that comparison is not that perfect, as you get feedback watching people have fun. But i don't. I never see people enjoy my creations or the ones of my co-workers. I mostly (95%) get support mails of people asking for meshes, general "can you repair my pc and wash my car" mails and those flame mails, i talked about before. So feedback is definetely something i am looking for. That's the only thing I charge. Something personal from users, who enjoy using our stuff. I don't request novels, but a short sentence like "hey, i really like your stuff" or something like this really makes my day!  :oops:

edit: No, i don't have a donation button. I had, but only some really nice people donated and, well, i needed the space in the top navigation for "more important" links. So i dropped it.

[Surelyfunke]

Hmm, I'm pretty sure there used to be a Paypal button on a separate page...it seems to be gone now.

Edit: Confirmed by Solander.

[Sherry]

@sherry: i didn't complain about the costs, Pimp my Sims.com generates each month. I did choose to run a site like mine (as i pointed out above) and i have to deal with the consequences.

But if you start a huge party which is know for its fun factor, offer free beer as much as everyone likes and if you then don't charge anything, a little "hey, cool, thanks you did this" by at least some of the guests would be nice, hm? But with the feedback ratio at our site, you had to start a party for 2,500 people to have at least 1 person say thank you.

Ok, maybe that comparison is not that perfect, as you get feedback watching people have fun. But i don't. I never see people enjoy my creations or the ones of my co-workers. I mostly (95%) get support mails of people asking for meshes, general "can you repair my pc and wash my car" mails and those flame mails, i talked about before. So feedback is definetely something i am looking for. That's the only thing I charge. Something personal from users, who enjoy using our stuff. I don't request novels, but a short sentence like "hey, i really like your stuff" or something like this really makes my day!  :oops:

edit: No, i don't have a donation button. I had, but only some really nice people donated and, well, i needed the space in the top navigation for "more important" links. So i dropped it.

Well I have to agree, I think it is sad that people are not more grateful when creators do sacrifce so much for their enjoyment.  I don't drink, but I hear beer is costly so I understand that point

My point was more in saying, not that creators should have to buden themselves with all the costs of creation, but there is clearly a line that many cross in making paysites, and if they are using the excuse of expansions, computers, monthy internet fees is downright silly to me.  

It's a pity that not as many people thank you or donate to your site, I have seen your work and it is certaily top notch.  I wonder why it's so hard to get voluntary donations?  Maybe because it's hard *donate* for even a good number of the pay content out there.  I think if less sites, were forcing less donations on simmers, more would certainly throw a buck your way.  That's my opinion though.

Also, I didn't know you could ask creators to wash your car.  I have some laundry that needs to be folded if you have time

[Solander]

Also, I didn't know you could ask creators to wash your car.  I have some laundry that needs to be folded if you have time

oh, just write a mail. try be to as un-precise as possible, include some "help, help, pleaaaaaaaaaaaaasssssssssseeeeeeeee", use a terrible background with pink flowers for the mail and i will be over at your place in just a few seconds  :wink:

[coliss]

oh, just write a mail. try be to as un-precise as possible, include some "help, help, pleaaaaaaaaaaaaasssssssssseeeeeeeee", use a terrible background with pink flowers for the mail and i will be over at your place in just a few seconds  :wink:

Don't say that. I have a feeling Sherry really is going to do that just to lure you at her house. :lol:

[Keijra]

I still think you are cute though. And you resemble Ben Stiller.

[Tempest Limmerfer]

A site owner at this forum having an intelligent, well-explained conversation...I have to say this is very nice and refreshing to see and read! Cheers to all! what if all site owners had these talks and all pay-site owners as well...would that be actual conversation? Would it actually be a way for all to co-exsist? Too bad so many have screamed and threatened instead of talking...

I have long respected Solander as a designer...that respect is now raised to respect for being willing to talk and listen and for being intelligent and fun!

Interesting how all this has brought repect to those who so deserve it and disrespect to those who have it coming. Very nice...some people should learn from this!

[kathy]

He's gay, ladies.

That has never stopped me from trying rofl

[coliss]

A site owner at this forum having an intelligent, well-explained conversation...I have to say this is very nice and refreshing to see and read! Cheers to all! what if all site owners had these talks and all pay-site owners as well...would that be actual conversation? Would it actually be a way for all to co-exsist? Too bad so many have screamed and threatened instead of talking...

Well, there's still some creators here -- but you don't have to pay to get some items from their websites.

[snadradeocconer]

so he is for shareing or not?

[Blue]

Uh...sorry I just wanted to edit and and it posted itself again.

[Tempest Limmerfer]

I know many free-site owners who come here and support this cause...excellent designers they are...just still bashful about letting anyone know who they are...too many people out there resorting to illegal methods of shutting people up. I think tons of free sites are celebrating lately...very fun thing, this is.

[Solander]

so he is for shareing or not?

I already answered this with this statement (page 5)

Well, maybe i should post a short summary of my posting at my blog to make my position clear:

I don't agree with people sharing donation stuff for free. In my eyes, the creator of the stuff has at least the copyright on the mesh or texture (if he did it himself), so you are free to share the package, if you remove the mesh first  

But i do understand people getting angry, if everyone starts offering donation stuff and leaves only poor quality items for free. Especially, if even the quality of donation items drops.

Thats it.

[Sherry]

oh, just write a mail. try be to as un-precise as possible, include some "help, help, pleaaaaaaaaaaaaasssssssssseeeeeeeee", use a terrible background with pink flowers for the mail and i will be over at your place in just a few seconds  :wink:

Don't say that. I have a feeling Sherry really is going to do that just to lure you at her house. :lol:

I was going to only say just let me kick my boyfriend out of the house, but I don't want that to be taken the wrong way.  

so he is for shareing or not?

I think he was pretty clear that he doesn't codone it.