The ISZ
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Although I may not take to Delphy I do appreciate his sentiments on sharing.
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m_firestorm
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Hehe... I was happy to see that he spoke out against the Three Great Evils by name (Peggy, Rose and TSR).
I think that it will give some people even more of an incentive to NOT donate to those sites, seeing as how many ppl hold the opinions of MTS2 as very influential.
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Cherry Lips
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Wow... that was awesome speech. It's good to see more and more people against paysites. Arr!
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Delphy
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Bluesoup, The credits list is in the wiki version. I wrote the bulk of the text, and then some of the staff read it over, fixed typos, suggested alternate versions of sentences and so on, but the bulk of what was being said stayed intact. And no I didn't pay anybody to do that - why the heck would I? We'll have to see what kind of impact this has in the community now.
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BlueSoup
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LOL Delphy, I don't want to say what I thought, because that would invade your privacy. Regardless, I thought it was a good post and I am really happy that MTS2 is taking the steps it is, seeing as it is so influential with younger, more naive players.
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Quinctia
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I posted this on the mission statement thread, but you'd probably more likely to see it here if you returned any time soon:
I think it would be awesome to reinforce all this with just ditching pay mesh recolors. Hopefully with the Poser Initiative, there will be more free meshes to play around with...and maybe convince the utility creators to bar pay sites from using their utilities? Enforcing it wouldn't be that practical, but the idea may become a bit self-policing, and also deter the more "moral" creators on the edge between free and pay from falling into the abyss.
And I think what TSR is doing needs to be shouted from everywhere...because it seems a lot of the people on the edge think that TSR should be an exception, when they are really the worst offender and need to be boycotted first, rather than last.
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jesserocket
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Oh wow, I do hate how much I seem to like Delphy these days!! Splendid stuff. And pirate cake for all the tweaky contributing types!
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arr Harr Fiddledeedee, Being a Pirate is alright with me! Do what you want cos a Pirate is free! YOU ARE A PIRATE!
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Delphy
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The whole pay mesh recolour thing is something that I'll be re-visiting later on. We've only just implemented the flagging system so then I can see just how many items we have on MTS2 that are pay mesh recolours and see how big the issue really is.
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Applause, Delphy. That was a great statement.
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Solowren
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White hats for everyone!
Hurrah!
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quoth my brother-in-law: "Boobs are way better than video games. I don't care what game or whose boobs."
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cakewalk
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Well done, Delphy! I hope to see some changes in the Sims comunity very soon!
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sickpuppy
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Reading through the thread, someone suggested Delphy put a disclaimer on the Meshtool 'no paysites blah blah.' As Delphy pointed out, it would be impossible to inforce or prove.
However, IF there was a disclaimer on SimPE--how could they make an item without using SimPE? --it would be proven. There may be no 'punishment' but the fact that everyone KNOWs it was made with SimPE and therefore selling the package would be a vilolation of Quaxi's terms of use--that could be enough to deter at least some 'buyers' from buying. ?
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angelus
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I like how many times he mentions the word FREE. I don't think anyone can miss that subtlety.
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torque
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all I wanna do, wanna take your moneys!
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Reading through the thread, someone suggested Delphy put a disclaimer on the Meshtool 'no paysites blah blah.' As Delphy pointed out, it would be impossible to inforce or prove.
However, IF there was a disclaimer on SimPE--how could they make an item without using SimPE? --it would be proven. There may be no 'punishment' but the fact that everyone KNOWs it was made with SimPE and therefore selling the package would be a vilolation of Quaxi's terms of use--that could be enough to deter at least some 'buyers' from buying. ? I agree. But I think it's too late to change the TOS for SimPe now.
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kattenijin
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Gnarrraaahhhhh!
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Reading through the thread, someone suggested Delphy put a disclaimer on the Meshtool 'no paysites blah blah.' As Delphy pointed out, it would be impossible to inforce or prove.
However, IF there was a disclaimer on SimPE--how could they make an item without using SimPE? --it would be proven. There may be no 'punishment' but the fact that everyone KNOWs it was made with SimPE and therefore selling the package would be a vilolation of Quaxi's terms of use--that could be enough to deter at least some 'buyers' from buying. ? I agree. But I think it's too late to change the TOS for SimPe now. Actually, the TOS can be changed at any time. Also, it is the responsability of the USER of a tool to keep current with the TOS, the creator isn't required to make any notification (however polite it may be to do so).
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