TSR: IN UR COMPUTER, VIRUSIN' UR FILES!

[justso]

This boggles my mind. I don't understand this mentality at all. I mean I am all for reading a range of opinions to make an informed choice, but I also want direct experience to be able to decide for myself. I would never think, 'Oh I wonder if I should go check out that site. Let me see what other people say about it' I would just go!

The only way of knowing about this site at the time was reading conversations about it.  On most sites it really was the site that must not be named (including freesites) google really was your friend as no linking was allowed, most conversations about it were negative.  I did look for it and find it, it was just a while before I joined and commited myself to this site as there was a lot of posts to catch up on to get the real picture.  Didn't take long to work out that people will say anything, and do anything to make what they do seem legitimate, even rewrite the EULA when asked questions about it by noobs and newbies. All that aside you're right Motoki, mind boggliing.

[chann]

But that's also the excuse used by the KiSS site I was at a lot too.

You mean OtakuWorld? (I can't think of any other big KiSS sites, obscure enough as it is.) I remember when they started charging ages ago, and of course, I was too young to pay. Lost interest in that hobby pretty quickly.

[SoggyFox]

Yup - could still find dolls other places, like Emby's but haven't looked in a long time.  OtakuWold is -still- pay but didn't see any new dolls, or not many.

Still got all my old dolls though, stashed on a drive somewhere.

[Motoki]

Heh I haven't messed with KISS for years and years. I even made a few back in the day, but I'm surprised it's still around, much less people charging for it.

[LynnMar]

yes I know I had no bussiness over there a few days ago.  I was just browsing the files and some way or other it hijacked my browser and some anti-virus program downloaded and I couldn't get it to stop and then it started scanning my files and I finally stopped it and my McAffee came up and said that it had just deleted a trojan.  But then I couldn't uninstall it.  It had an icon in my tray but when I went to add remove programs it was not in there and then I tried to remove it from inside the windows exployer but it would not delete, so I had to do a system restore to get rid of it.  I think I will stay away from TSR from now on.  Talk about dodgeing a bullet. 

[Paden]

You still may not have dodged it totally. These assholes are tricky and rarely is there a happy ending when dealing with the shit that site dishes out. Good luck, though.

[Dr House]

You caught a nasty virus. Clean your system totally or expect an imminent explosion. Ditto for the good luck, had a nasty one a couple of weeks ago an gee it wasn't fun at all

[ValancySterling]

yes I know I had no bussiness over there a few days ago.  I was just browsing the files and some way or other it hijacked my browser and some anti-virus program downloaded and I couldn't get it to stop and then it started scanning my files and I finally stopped it and my McAffee came up and said that it had just deleted a trojan.  But then I couldn't uninstall it.  It had an icon in my tray but when I went to add remove programs it was not in there and then I tried to remove it from inside the windows exployer but it would not delete, so I had to do a system restore to get rid of it.  I think I will stay away from TSR from now on.  Talk about dodgeing a bullet. 

This is exactly what happend to me.  Dr. House is right...it's probably not gone.  My husband had to reformat my hard drive and reinstall everything.

[millahnna]

THe only time I've ever gotten a bad file from TSR, Avast found it just fine.  I did follow that up with a thorough wipe via Avast & Ccleaner (both the registry and regular cleaner) in safe mode in the interest of erring on the side of caution.  IIRC, I also installed and ran AVG that time in case it was finding crap that Avast wasn't.  Uncommon in my experience but it happens.  I just never leave AVG on my system because it's a little too resource intensive for my machine and it's virus scan is bloody effing slow.  I need more rams.

[rum nate]

I don't remember anyone mentioning this. Back on August 9th Thomas posted a thread on the TSR forums about some updates that will be in the next update of the Workshop, and one of them was "Our own series of export plugins (similar to that of Wes) for the most popular 3D programs such as Milkshape, 3DS Max and possibly more." So TSR wanted to avoid using Wes' becuase you can't charge for content if you used his plugins.

[millahnna]

I'm surprised they care, honestly.

[dstar]

Lets be honest- they don't care about either Wes's TOU's/EULA's for their tools, or EA"s EULA either. What they care about is money and  numbers of FAdownloads. Given all the crap they have pulled in the last 6 months memberships and downloads have probably been reduced enough to impact their bottom line. Remember the numbers on the front page for members includes ex members who have left like myself, Darqstar (they refuse to close accounts when requested to), banned members and anyone who has so much as registered for a free account- not just paying members. The downloads include downloads of tools, programs linked to the site like Homecrafter, and their free content from all three Sims games- the number of actual FA downloads for each game is significantly less than what they post for number of downloads per day. They are losing teh monieez and that is what having their own plug ins is all about if there even are any. After all they are just stupid enough not to realize that they can lie about having plug ins for their workshop all they want but Wes acan tell by looking at a file for about 5 minutes whether or not histools were used to make something or not.

[ShanOw]

TSR has updated there EULA for the shitty workshop program so that all creators/sites that use the workshop MUST link back to the TSR workshop page on there site or uploading thread. They are also asking for donations to the program to further line there pockets.

The Sims Resource has invested heavily in TSR Workshop with 2 full time programmers working on it since before the game released in June 2009, and who will continue to work until such time as we consider it a feature full, stable product. We also plan to invest in licences for Maya and 3D Studio Max plug-ins at great expense, to allow Custom Content creators to work quickly and efficiently with their tools of choice. The result will be a software product which has enabled masses of additional content for Sims 3 players to expand and enhance their game.

Whether you are a CC Creator making direct use of TSR Workshop, or a player that benefits every day from the work generated as a result of TSR Workshop, we would encourage you to donate to the project, not just as a way of saying "thanks" for the work done to date, but to help us to continue to invest in the future, for Expansion Pack compatibility and better feature enhancements too.
You can donate as much or as little as you like through PayPal via the link here. Your donation would be much felt and greatly appreciated not only by us, but the whole Sims 3 playing/editing Community!

EULA Update:

We have made an addition to the EULA for Workshop which requires websites and other distribution media to link back to the TSR Workshop page at The Sims Resource as a means of giving credit for the development of the software which makes those CC creations possible. The addition is Section 9 and reads:

9. DUE CREDIT
Any website, distribution portal or publication sharing or making available any CUSTOM CONTENT via digital download, CD/DVD or any other Media, must give credit to The Sims Resource as the SOFTWARE PRODUCT developer on their website or in their publication, by title ("TSR Workshop") and by link or reference to the TSR Workshop webpage (www.thesimsresource.com/workshop).

[aeris]

The Sims Resource has invested heavily in TSR Workshop [...] We would encourage you to donate to the project, not just as a way of saying "thanks" for the work done to date, but to help us to continue to invest in the future, for Expansion Pack compatibility and better feature enhancements too.

What kind of investment is that? Oh, and I'm sure the community will be thrilled to see that the same people who hacked, lied and stole on a daily basis are making more money to continue.

Thomass can shove this EULA up his ass. I'm sure it's wide enough.

[CatOfWar]

No mention of links to MTS, Peter and Inge's sites, Echo, Wes, anybody else who did the vast majority of the initial research and library development.  What a bunch of assholes.