TSR: IN UR COMPUTER, VIRUSIN' UR FILES!

[dusdeedawn]

Oh dear, poor Coconut.

[Markus]

I'm going with "Is tied up with duct tape in atwa's root beer cellar". 

[Witchboy]

I'll take - "Who is married to Pescado and is preoccupied with the daunting task of keeping his tighty-whities white?" for $1000 Snarky 

[Pescado]

NEW UPDATE!
TSR confesses to keylogger: Makes up lame excuses for how it was only to catch the Alt key for the UI.

This explanation is about as believable as someone assembling a nuclear warhead claiming they only wanted to use it to cut down some trees because they couldn't figure out axes and chainsaws. Trapping the alt-key is a standard piece of the Windoze programming API and DOES NOT REQUIRE WRITING A KEYLOGGER TO DO.

[SnarkyShark]

The confessions -

The cause for those warnings has been found. Johan will post an updated version of Workshop and also explain them here. In short it has to do with the alt key in the 3D viewer (the program checks if it is pressed down or not).

I found the cause for the DLL injection warning, it was triggered by our keyboard event handling for the 3d view where we used a low keyboard hook to detect if the alt key was pressed when dragging the mouse.
It's a fairly common technique that is probably used in lots of other applications out there as well and it works perfectly well for the task.

Pescado at maty -

Haha. This is a joke, right? I see this as nothing more than a transparent ploy to hide a keylogger. Because you can't trap ONE keydown message using the standard Windoze API, you write and install an ENTIRE KEYLOGGER SYSTEM for this? You do realize this "explanation" insults your intelligence, right?

So coconut was (surprise surprise) spot on when she warned us that TSR might be planning to use the tool for criminal purposes. All I can think to say is that anyone who CHOOSES to believe what Thomass and the rest of his flunkies from TSR have to say regarding that piece of malware is being a gullible fool. Or maybe dealing with the reality of TSR doesn't fit their current agenda.

[justso]

Well that answers WB and Shannow's questions on how they were hacked.  I am not shocked by this though, nothing that TSR does surprises me anymore.The shame is that there will be members of TSR that will swallow their explanation without question.  That bloody tool raises more questions than they give answers to anyway.  Fucking Bastards.  I take it RYG has denounced Thomas and banned him from their site as Nightmare stated they would.

[lorikay]

I haven't been around the sims community that long.  Hell, I've never even played sims1.  I found coconut's blog around Christmas of 2008.  I've read the entire blog, which started out in a thread here.  My question being, why would the free community continue to let TSR smack them around and insult them.  Maybe tools are just tools, but these people have used and abused the free community.  I'm just not sure why anyone would want to be involved in their stench.  Especially the ones who've made tools for free, just for the love of the game.

I really feel that any involvement with TSR is sending mixed signals.  It makes me want to ask "Has Anyone Read Coconut's Blog?"  They've admitted doing wrong.  They've never apologized.  They never will apologize.  I just don't get why tool makers think they need TSR.  You didn't need them before.  They needed you.

[ShanOw]

Well that answers WB and Shannow's questions on how they were hacked.

This really doesn't surprise me in the slightest, however I don't think this is how they got the passwords... If they had a keylogger installed on my system it would have been useless because a)All my passwords are saved by firefox so they don't need to be entered and b)I use Keystroke encryption software to protect me from keyloggers.

None of my accounts with a different password to TSR were hacked, so I'm 100% sure that this is how they gained access.

The fact that they didn't use this program to hack my accounts by no means lessens the illegality of what they are doing, they just found a more efficient way of doing what their spyware couldn't.

[justso]

It beggars belief how many different ways TSR comes up with to screw with people.  Nevar forget, Nevar forgive.

[SoggyFox]

The reason so many people let TSR keep going is because the free community is made up of decent people and not all of us are cynical enough to stop trying to give them the benefit of the doubt.

Personally, how many of us would actually do any of the crap TSR has done?  I know I wouldn't.  So, we have a hard time wrapping out minds around the behavior of TSR too.

[Alke]

My postcount may be low, and I may be no expert, but I feel that it comes down to this:

We will never descend to TSR's level.

We will never hack them. We will never defame them. We will never steal from them. We will never fill their Fotobukkits with porn. Most of all, we will never mislead or steal from the company that, with all its faults, has given us joy: EAxis.

Largely, our fervour is based on faith that, if we scream loud enough, no matter how many times we're silenced on the BBS or TSR forums, someone of note will flinch, pause and say, "Hey, wait," and the people who really don't care that TSR has stolen from them will start caring.

And then there's my personal theory that there's no doing such because TSR is bribing EA, but that's crazy talk. OR IS IT???

[Markus]

I take it RYG has denounced Thomas and banned him from their site as Nightmare stated they would.

I am a little pessimistic about that. However it would be nice to think that he realizes helping them was a bad move, and that he'll learn from his mistakes. Knowing Kath though, they'll probably unban Thomas and make him a mod.

[kenmtl]

Well we wouldn't want to seem too harsh now would we.

[CatOfWar]

Kath?  Same Kath as the former co-owner of InSim or someone else?

[missangelica]

Kath?  Same Kath as the former co-owner of InSim or someone else?

Nope.  Different Kath.  Her username on the phorum is Saraswati.