Well here we go, I present the first TS3 Pay items thanks to Peggy

[SnarkyShark]

Boy, Peggy sure does get testy when her reputation for making authentic, half assed gappy hairdos is called into question. Hmmm, maybe she's planning a second honeymoon and can't afford to have any of her sheep jumping the fence.

[Lady Vader]

Honeymoon? With herself, I think. Honestly, even in communistic China can you find men so desperate to wany Peggy and her hair? I don't think even communism can do that to your head. 

[CatOfWar]

Custom Sims 3 down or did they move?  I'm trying to link to Wes Howe's Sims3 MilkShape plugins and tutorial, in a rebuttal to Peggy's disgusting lies, but it won't look too good if the links don't work. :/

Motoki (or anyone), please repost the link to bootleg Peggy Sims3 paycrap here, so folks can copy and paste it.  Helps when preparing posts to put on PeggyZone later, thanks!

edit: While waiting for pages to load through a proxy, here's what I plan to post all over PeggySparkleLand.
Maybe it can be of some use to others, the links at least.  Thanks to everyone in this thread for providing many of these links and examples.

edit2: So happy many folks are posting in PeggyZone!  Posted the rebuttal.  Must think of what to put in short PM's to 50 people.  Link to Peggy booty, links to lovely free stuff?  Link to this thread?  Links to Peggy's gaps and borked hair pics?  PeggyZoners don't seem to understand that Peggy's low, low quality is not normal and not acceptable.

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A REBUTTAL OF PEGGY'S CLAIMS


Peggy Claim

Peggy is the first artist that created genuine independent custom content successfully.

The Truth
Many free creators made true, independent content *weeks* before Peggy did.
Look at their work, check the date when it was posted.
- Snaitf's movie posters that don't replace anything
- Snaitf's children's t-shirts, new clothing that does not replace anything in game
- Lurania's hello kitty watches, accessories that don't replace anything
- kanon's shorter boots for women, don't replace any shoes
There are others, look around.  Furthermore, Peggy's hair is NOT INDEPENDENT, as explained in the next section.


Peggy Claim
Peggy says if her hair does not work right, it is because you have "mods and hacks" in your game.

The Truth
Hair meshes and "mods and hacks" have nothing to do with each other, just ask any modder or hair mesher who is not Peggy.  Peggy hair needs EA Games store hair to work, because Peggy made it wrong.  You can read about that here and here.  Peggy, nobody accused you of *copying* EA Store hair, we pointed out, correctly, that your hair *requires* EA Store hair.  So your customers have to pay TWICE for your broken, crashy hair.  Why not get beautiful, truly independent Sims3 hair for all ages, both genders, any face shape, no crash, no bug, and FREE?  
- short punky hair
- short curly hair  
If you really must have Peggy hair, get it free here.


Peggy Claim
Peggy claims she used her own software, but, uh, she can't release it...

Part of the information of the software is listed below:
*pictures of supposed software Peggy claims is her Sims3 content tool, omitted*
A plugin is needed to bind skeleton when designing items in Maya,which is required to be exclusive by the author,so further information could not be released. We will appreciate your understanding of that.

(bold added by me)

The Truth
Wes Howe released a MilkShape plugin that allows export/import of Sims3 meshes, before Peggy made her Sims3 hair.  Anyone can download it and use it to make free content (pay content is forbidden by Wes' license agreement).  Look  here, scroll down to Meshing Tools.  Look in this thread to see how saddened Wes Howe was that his hard work, his free tool, were illegally used to make pay items, and not very well at that. Peggy has NOT released her tool.  Why?  If it even exists, it doesn't work right.  Free creators have known for a while now how to handle the Sims3 skeleton.  That is why their creations work with any body shape, any face shape.  Peggy stuff does NOT work with any face shape, any body shape, because Peggy still can't figure out the skeleton!  Yet she expects you to pay for her broken hair.


Peggy Claim

Based on the international convention and related laws and regulations, and even EA’s official statement itself, the copyright and ownership of these files belong to the artist(peggyzone). ...stuff omitted... Please feel free to use these legal creations.

The Truth
Legal and copyrighted by Peggy?  Ha ha ha!  No.  Here is part of EA Games Sims3 EULA:

A. Grant. Through an authorized purchase or transfer, you acquire and EA grants you a non‐exclusive license to install and use the Software for your personal, limited, non-commercial use solely as set forth in this License and the accompanying documentation.

(bold added by me)

"Non-commercial" means you can't sell stuff, Peggy.  When you take EA Store hair and alter it to make your hair, you are using EA software for commercial purposes, in violation of the EULA.  Wes Howe's tool license certainly does not allow creation of pay items either.  And here's more, from section B4.

when you contribute content through the Software, you expressly grant to other users of the Software the non-exclusive, perpetual, transferable, worldwide, irrevocable right to access and use, copy, modify, display, perform, and create and distribute derivative works from, your contributed content in connection with the Software, and to distribute and otherwise communicate your contributed content as a component of works that they create using the Software

(bold added by me)

In short, that means anyone can legally share your content, for free.  Anyone can modify your content.  You have no copyright.  Why should you, when much of your hair is meshes you just ported from TurboSquid and Poser?  Of course, decent people will give proper credit when using your work, something you yourself do not do when you use the work of others.


Peggy Claim

Fifthly, PeggyZone reserves the rights to take any actions that we think necessary and appropriate to the extent permitted by law in response to insult, libel and attack committed by anyone.

The Truth
Peggy hasn't taken anyone to court.  I doubt she is going to.  All she does is ban people who tell the truth, and erase their posts in the forums.  (We just come right back, Peggy.)  I would love to see her in court, trying to explain to a judge how she thinks she has a copyright on Sims3 content, or any right to sell it.  Please, Peggy, go to court.  Please!  DO IT!

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edit3: Hey, isn't that Peggy hair on a Jassims free download?  Won't Peggy be mad her hair is being redistributed?  Paysite owners don't stick together, no honor among thieves, it seems.  Hey Peggy, take legal action!  *giggle giggle snerk*

[captaincaliena]

In response to Cats whole post:

*stands*applauds*

Post that shit all over the internet.  Wherever you can.  Very well thought out and written.  Anyone can understand it.  Even a mook like me

[ScooterBabe]

*applauds Cat's post and hands her 15 bottles of rum*
Excellent post! Surely, that will get Peggy's attention. 

[SnarkyShark]

I would love to see her in court, trying to explain to a judge how she thinks she has a copyright on Sims3 content, or any right to sell it.

*Joins ovation

Most excellent rebuttal, Cat. If I remember right, Peggy has used the "Ihazlawyers" tactic before without ever following through. Since she operates inside a vacuum, I think the only people she's really trying to fool with her rant are her subscribers. And since they're foolish enough to buy Peggy crap to begin with, they'd probably be foolish enough to buy her excuses.

[Scurvy Cat]

Works both ways, Peggy dearest.  It's nearly impossible for WesH to sue you, and it's nearly impossible for you to sue the rest of us.  And branding you as an unethical offspring of a mutant turtle's egg all over the nets is fun. BTW, don't take your lying lessons from Thoma$$; he's very bad at it.

[Motoki]

Has Wes commented on these newest claims by Peggy?

The bootleg Peggy hair? Yeah I have a ton or mirrors.

http://www18.zippyshare.com/v/54255629/file.html

http://rapidshare.com/files/258538606/Peg_Hair_TS3.rar.html

http://rapidshare.com/files/258540009/Peg_Hair_TS3.rar.html

http://www.filefactory.com/file/ahe7h05/n/Peg_Hair_TS3_rar

http://www.filefactory.com/file/ahe7h32/n/Peg_Hair_TS3_rar

http://www.filefactory.com/file/ahe7h5c/n/Peg_Hair_TS3_rar

http://www.zshare.net/download/629892867e4a35a3/

http://www.easy-share.com/1906854740/Peg Hair TS3.rar

http://www.easy-share.com/1906854768/Peg_Hair_TS3.rar

http://hotfile.com/dl/8983673/a53f976/Peg_Hair_TS3.rar.html

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0KCQ8BVD

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=W0ARJRSL

http://www.easy-share.com/1906854780/Peg Hair TS3.rar

http://depositfiles.com/files/u7argf1gm

http://www.flyupload.com/?fid=342925875

http://www.badongo.com/file/16120167

http://www.sendspace.com/file/v74v1a

http://netload.in/datei4nUyd0c4N9.htm

http://www.load.to/zmte7sZCaV/Peg_Hair_TS3.rar

http://www.mediafire.com/?gdvgcxu22u9

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?w0fh2nmjmqo

http://www.megashare.com/1271595

http://www.2shared.com/file/6791315/8ba64426/Peg_Hair_TS3.html

http://hotfile.com/dl/8983725/1e35a6d/Peg_Hair_TS3.rar.html

[CatOfWar]

Thanks Motoki!  More ammo, hee hee...

[Motoki]

http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,15971.msg462369.html#msg462369

I have also made a Maya plugin, covered under the same license, that uses the same code to generate the GEOM with, but it was only released to a few testers. While the methods I use are my own "trade secret" the way the file is made leaves markings are irrefutable evidence she generated the final output of the two pay hair file I examined with my plugins. And the license terms very clearly prohibit commercial use.

She can claim she is using something else, and it may be true, to the extent she may be modelling with maya. But the final file was created with one of my plugins, or by code stolen from my plugins. Her rattling statements about insult, libel and attack are nothing but bluster and bravado. She is on the wrong side on this issue.

She can cure this by using the Blender plugins, and probably the TSR tool, as it exports GEOMs also. But until she does, she has no valid claim to ownership of the file, as it was produced only by violating my license terms.

<* Wes *>

Let's see, who am I going to believe, respected member of the community who has worked hard for free, shared his work and never charged anyone a dime or money grubbing ho who makes half assed borked up files and never bothers to fix them?

[Clampdairyola]

Who converted the peggy TS2 hair? It just seemed to show up outta nowhere....

Also gives Cat standing O.

Stupid peggy.....

[Motoki]

Who converted the peggy TS2 hair? It just seemed to show up outta nowhere....

Also gives Cat standing O.

Stupid peggy.....

It's a mystery. Peggy has never commented on it. It was found on the Exchange where some Russian user had a sim with that hair and put it up. Then someone at Garden of Shadows somehow managed to find it? No clue.

It does replace the bob hair which I think is actually fairly tasteful. It's an odd choice for one to replace. I would think Peggy would have picked something weirder and less cutesy to replace.

[CatOfWar]

Does Peggy pay these people in PG or are they just dumb and want shinies?
Some gems from the sparkly forum.

"those disputation is bullshit....what i care most is that how marvelous the creations are!!"

"yes, more importantly, Simmers are looking forward to more smashing custom content like sims2.  Assult, slander and fight are so ridiculous."

*headdesk headdesk headdesk*

I think the way to get through to their kind is show them actual high quality shinies, for free, and links to the booty.  Hope their insatiable lust for bishy anime hair trumps any cultish loyalty they feel towards Peggy.  Are they spending their parents money, so it doesn't matter to them?

edit: SparkleLand is down for maintenance.  Massive post purge?  Upload of more borked crap?  Maybe someone wrote working software for Peggy and she's remaking her crap to hide evidence she used Wes' software?  We'll see what tomorrow brings.

[Clampdairyola]

It's a mystery. Peggy has never commented on it. It was found on the Exchange where some Russian user had a sim with that hair and put it up. Then someone at Garden of Shadows somehow managed to find it? No clue.

It does replace the bob hair which I think is actually fairly tasteful. It's an odd choice for one to replace. I would think Peggy would have picked something weirder and less cutesy to replace.

Link please, I'm a member there and didn't see it. 

[rum nate]

Her site is up for me. There are no new files on it. I didn't check out the forum, take too damn long to load on dial up. But I did find something I laughed at, its her site disclaimer, it says she posted it the same day as the disclaimer for sims 3 junk:

6. We are going to sue anyone that infringes the copyright or intellectual property rights of the website.

Yeah, sure you are Peggy.

Another thing I noticed is right below the above line there is this one:

7. If you find any infringement, please E-mail us: Peggysims2.net@hotmail.com

A just plain hotmail.com email address would not be a Chinese email address, would it?