TSR: In Ur Accounts, Deletin Ur Stuffs!

[Skoria_Bay]

I agree with Ken. We need to look at the list of suspects. A) people who knew about the Shakeshaft content stealing thing when Buggy told TSR B) Who on the MTS forums knew her account had been tampered with C) Those who Buggy told outside of A and B. I would think the C option would be a handful of people and they would only know part of the story. Thanks Jonesi for the answer about the timing. I feel sorry for Buggy, but I am glad everything was restored at MTS.

I also think Darqstar has valid points about Coconut and I hope Coconut lays low until this is mostly over and can then post what she has from the "super sekrit" forums. I think this has a much more negative backlash than TSR thinks. From what I have seen around the community, TSR is not looked upon favorably at this point. A lot of people are not willing to give TSR a second chance.

[Anouk]

IP's at the time Buggy's stuff was deleted
 buggybooz    70.85.179.186                                                                              
 Hamilton        70.85.179.186
leftywillnot     70.85.197.178  

All three used exacty the same browser versions, plugins and settings.

IP's Atwa has used on Natural Sims

same as leftywillnot     70.85.197.178  
                               78.129.197.69

Ip's 'hacker' has used on simsecret
                    78.129.197.69
                     83.142.228.139

Atwa is connected to all three cases. She has no access to TSR's userdatabase. Also she has no reason to keep hold of the logins of BuggyBooz fro months on end.  However, someone with admin access provided her with

1. the proxy server ip, and
2. the passwords used to get into both accounts
3. the knowledge about the theft

Do we think that Atwa would have the capabilities to read and try out some passwords? - sure
Do we think that Atwa has the knowledge to hack into TSR? - Fat chance.

[dstar]

The problem is that a lot of creators x-post under the same name and and at least one of them has  had featured creations- MsBarrows, PhoenixPhaerie, and Opehouse Jack just to name a few- that means that anybody who was friends with either Shakeshaft or Tommy Boy could have handed over BuggyBooz info on a platinum platter

[scrappysim]

But how would any of them have her password?

[siberiansunset]

Sorry. Couldn't resist.

[dstar]

They would not necessarily have her password however; they could give the info to someone who had the ability to figure it out if they knew one of their fellow FA's was being accused of doing something wrong- TSR is such a snakepit/cesspool that any of it is possible at this point.Especially since I would bet that x-posters who have not retired  from TSR are given extra incentives to report on things that are going on on the free sites they post to .

[SoggyFox]

*dies*

And Two of those three are FAs, aren't they?

[dstar]

Two FA's and one SA (they are really just FA's in waiting).

[Anouk]

Have any of those FA's been recorded at Simsecret, Modthesims2 and Naturals sims with the same ip's? Have any of those FA's gotten access to a proxy service to hide their real ip? Did they use the IP's identified as Atwa at Naturalsims?
I think it's Atwa, being helped by TSR. look at the info in my last post.

[dstar]

Of course it could just be conspiracy theory because I am so pissed off at this shit.

[dstar]

Have any of those FA's been recorded at Simsecret, Modthesims2 and Naturals sims with the same ip's?
I think it's Atwa, being helped by TSR.

Unfortunately I could not tell you - I have not really paid attention to any of the forums except MTS2 and TSR (past history after my acct runs out)- but I do know that it is the kind of environment that they foster with their FA's and SA's - bribing them to work for TSR etc- it would be a very TSR thing to do to bribe them to pass information to Thomas about what is going on on the free sites- They need not necessarily have been present there at the time- one of the two present who was not poor BuggyBooz could have pm'd or im'd them about the situation etc- and having visited the FA forum once or twice - they do loooovvveee their gossip


On a side note - all Shakeshaft sets that are not temporarily replacing the M&G stuff till someone at a free site gets around to M&G build mode add ons , or isn't currently part of my legacy house are gone from my DL folder, I have downloaded all of Buggybooz' luverly stuff in support of her work, and found alternate re-colors for my Ikea shit at Insim so that I do not have anything to do with this intellectual property thief.

Of course until Delphy figures out what really happened it is all just extrapolation other than the theft of Buggybooz stuff- yes something happened to her profile but until Delphy has 100 % proof - above and beyond the IP addresses which is what he needs to pursue legal proceedings on MTS2 and Buggybooz behalf we can all only theorize especially since we all know that TSR will never admit wrongdoing and will do their damnedest to sweep any evidence of their actions under the carpet with the help of EA

[johan]

What do we know about leftywillnot, how is he/she connected?
 

IP's at the time Buggy's stuff was deleted
 buggybooz    70.85.179.186                                                                              
 Hamilton        70.85.179.186
leftywillnot     70.85.197.178  

All three used exacty the same browser versions, plugins and settings.

IP's Atwa has used on Natural Sims

same as leftywillnot     70.85.197.178  
                               78.129.197.69

Ip's 'hacker' has used on simsecret
                    78.129.197.69
                     83.142.228.139

Atwa is connected to all three cases. She has no access to TSR's userdatabase. Also she has no reason to keep hold of the logins of BuggyBooz fro months on end.  However, someone with admin access provided her with

1. the proxy server ip, and
2. the passwords used to get into both accounts
3. the knowledge about the theft

Do we think that Atwa would have the capabilities to read and try out some passwords? - sure
Do we think that Atwa has the knowledge to hack into TSR? - Fat chance.

I think you are a little bit confused about the anonymous proxy part. Anyone using the service (Hide My IP or similar) can get that IP, you might even be able to request a specific IP.

[justso]

Can I ask leftywillnot has to do with the IP's if anything Anouk.  

I have seen leftywillnot on simscave asking about Atwa's downloads quite a while ago. 

[Yaardarm Monkey II]

Until Delphy reports this to his IP and they investigate it as internet fraud, nothing will happen.

The first post by Delphy was 'zomg TSR haxed me', (and everyone went nuts, posts and bannings at the BBS)
then later it was 'well maybe not folks' (and now it's detective/guess the bad guy time)

If this has happened, then Delphy needs to contact the authorities and let them check it out.

[Anouk]

leftywillnot has the same ip Atwa used on Naturalsims. They are from the same service Thomas has bought to hide atwa's ip from staff members on TSR.

Johan:
Aside from Thomas,
- What are the chances that any of the people who buy that service, know anything about the sims 2 community?
- What are the chances that any of the people who buy that service, care about what was posted on Simsecret about TSR?
- What are the chances that any of the people who buy that service, would break into TSR?
- What are the chances that any of the people who buy that service, use the ip's that have been linked to Atwa on a different site than MTS2 and LiveJournal?