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« Reply #45 on: 2009 April 11, 05:47:27 »
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I know nothing about meshing, but that looks like a ton of unnecessary work. It doesn't make much sense to me, because if people want to retexture it, they'll often link to the site where you can get the original mesh. So wouldn't making a mesh that was easy to retexture be better for business?
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« Reply #46 on: 2009 April 11, 06:19:51 »
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Juice and Yu are shooting themselves in the foot by making the UV map unnecessarily complicated.  Yes, this looks like a deliberate effort to make it hard to recolor.  And yes, that does make the hair less attractive to creators who would only download it in order to recolor.  I know there are folks on MTS2 who like dustfingers Maxis match style recolors of (free) Juice and Peggy meshes.  There are several creators who "Noukify" meshes, apply Nouk's textures to them.  Some folks might not download those meshes if not for those recolors. 
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« Reply #47 on: 2009 April 11, 09:33:05 »
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I know nothing about meshing, but that looks like a ton of unnecessary work. It doesn't make much sense to me, because if people want to retexture it, they'll often link to the site where you can get the original mesh. So wouldn't making a mesh that was easy to retexture be better for business?

Essentially yes. But when your a paysite like Peggy and have no rights on GOS you have to find other ways around it. Because unfortunately for her it is a pay mesh and it will be shared by retexturers or the booty. And yes it is a ton of unnecessary work. I tried for about 3 hours+ to get even Neena's textures to line up on that bitch and just could do it.
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« Reply #48 on: 2009 April 11, 15:51:23 »
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Following Peggy's textures does not work for this one?
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« Reply #49 on: 2009 April 12, 05:16:37 »
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I was gonna say...it shouldn't be too bad to retexture, but alpha-editing is probably never going to happen.  Or at least, I wouldn't be able to wrap my head around it.
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« Reply #50 on: 2009 April 12, 05:25:30 »
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Somebody over at Emosims did retexture it, I think. But alpha editing? People are already clawing their own eyes out over it. Some of the hairs are way too long, and shortening it will either look weird and choppy or end up screwing up another part of the mesh. But I'd say eventually people are going to give up on the ridiculous mapping, and Newsea might succeed in remaining a new paysite.

But on texturing? Juices' textures look plastic. I'm happy for those who can sit down and have that kind of patience.  Wink
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« Reply #51 on: 2009 April 12, 14:36:43 »
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I think this is a good thing: Peggy purposely borking her texture maps. I am sick of everyone giving her free press by endlessly recoloring and fixing her crappy meshes. She isn't unique. There are many great free creators like Nouk, Fabulous Sims, Cool Sims and quasi free (at least for hair) XM sims. Why not focus on those meshes?

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« Reply #52 on: 2009 April 12, 14:42:47 »
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« Reply #53 on: 2009 April 12, 16:04:25 »
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I think this is a good thing: Peggy purposely borking her texture maps. I am sick of everyone giving her free press by endlessly recoloring and fixing her crappy meshes. She isn't unique. There are many great free creators like Nouk, Fabulous Sims, Cool Sims and quasi free (at least for hair) XM sims. Why not focus on those meshes?


 I agree, I have seen some nice things done with  xm hair , there is a creator over at MTS2 who has done editing to their hair. She made a pony tail out of a mesh and it looks like a whole new hair.  I think nouk allows re textures, I did see one over at the gos and  Lapink did a recolor but certianly I would love to see more.  I guess it is because pegy pops out a new hair every week that she is popular..
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« Reply #54 on: 2009 April 12, 17:55:39 »
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I think this is a good thing: Peggy purposely borking her texture maps.

Peggy's mapping has always been pretty atrocious.  I retexured/realphaed one of her old pay bobs for a Secret Santa gift last year (yeah, I know there are other bobs out there, but the person had a 1920s themed hood, and I wanted to give her MOAR BOBS that she definitely didn't have before), and it was nearly impossible to give that thing a blunt cut because of how it was mapped.

It ended up looking decent, because it was short and my end goal was easy, but it took a lot of fiddling around.

So I'm not entirely sure that this latest mapping is malicious instead of a result of more Peggy "What gap?" nonlogic.

And while I get what you're saying about editing other hair instead of Peggy's, every hair that exists tends to get the retexture treatment over at GoS these days.  It's less "OMG MUST RETEXTURE PEGGY HAIRS" and more "OMG MUST RETEXTURE ALL HAIRS."
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« Reply #55 on: 2009 April 13, 01:15:11 »
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Ah, it's people mapping short and long pieces of hair on the same part of the texture. Thus alpha editing it will mean the long and short parts will both change. This is usually done to save space on the texture file, and because it saves time. But if you want to do an alpha edit it's really annoying.
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« Reply #56 on: 2009 April 17, 02:04:34 »
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New pretty hair by them: http://hi.baidu.com/juiceshine/blog/item/d70b3c08e392dda72fddd4f6.html

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« Reply #57 on: 2009 April 17, 02:10:53 »
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Its a nice hair. Just what is up with all the odd colors?
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Re: Juice Newsea Becomes a Paysite
« Reply #58 on: 2009 April 17, 02:40:30 »
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Its a nice hair. Just what is up with all the odd colors?
Yeah, the colors are indeed horrible. Can't wait when it gets nouked tbh... Wink
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Re: Juice Newsea Becomes a Paysite
« Reply #59 on: 2009 April 17, 03:04:39 »
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I want this hair so I can try my hand at Nouking/Liegiening it.
But if the mesh is too wildly mapped, it's all yours. It'd look gorgeous with different textures though...
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