TSR IS A SUCK-ASS SUCKY WEBSITE

[Jojoba]

Delphy dont give up...dont give Lyric and the rest of the shit stirrers the satisfaction of getting you down.

 

Ha! So have all these posts by Dina been deleted now? Oh lolz!

[AW]

Delphy, I understand why you would feel this way.  But, there are those of us who have stood up many times for you and will continue to do so.  Everybody makes mistakes and I for one don't think they should pay forever for them.  It's a little disheartening to hear you say that, especially when this community came out and with-in I believe a 24 hour period raised the money that you asked for to buy a new server.  

I, for one, don't know you personally, but have no problem telling people to shut the fuck up.  I am so sick of hearing about it, that it just pisses me off.  It has no place nor relevance to this community and until every paysite owner is going to post their past for us all to review and pass judgement on, then it should be left alone.  Sorry that there are people that low and stupid, but many of us here "have your back" and could give a shit less about your personal life which is absolutely none of my business.

[Paden]

Delphy, don't give up! To do so would only give them an orasmic feeling and they would win. You're too good of a person to let the idiots and assholes have their way and run rough shod over everyone. Past is past. Mistakes have been made. You've learned to go on. I respect you for that. I will tell anyone to shut the fuck up because they weren't there and involved on a personal level. They're getting vicarious kicks out of slinging mud because it's an emotional issue. People like this are emotional vampires, they feed off of the emotions they whip people into feeling. Not good. Not healthy. I'm behind you. Always will be. Please, my friend, and I call you such because you're a decent person and I'm not about to call you dear stranger, don't give in to the bastards and fucknuts floating around. We can be just as loud and drown out the voice of ignorance, and we will when we need to. You can count on us. Like armywife said, we've got your back and we'll guard it well.

[keirra]

I agree with the posters above, Delphy.  It would suck way too much to have LyricLee win by destroying MTS2.  I have and will continue to stomp on the assholes that have it out for you.

[Delphy]

Well, the thing is, it's pretty hard to get on with your life if every time you turn around there is people spreading shit about you at every opportunity - and it's only gotten worse with time.  I can try and be strong but it does affect me to a large degree.  I don't like that period of my life back then - it brings back bad memories, so to have it dragged up and used to attack me at every opportunity (even things like innocous bbs posts) really wears my levels down.

The other point is that MTS2, as a site, really only interests me for the technical challenges, and there are very few of those left now - and by that I mean coding and general maintenance. I daresay the friendships I have there will survive, but, if I was to retire, the site as an entity would still go on, it just wouldn't be directly run by me.

I thank everybody here for thier support - it does mean a lot.  This whole thing has taken a lot out of me personally though, and if I do contribute to the Sims 3 it will be in a purely advisory or technical capacity rather than running a fansite becuase that's really what I wanted to do anyway.

That is, however, a ways off yet - I'm not out of the game becuase there is a lot left to do.  I do feel better knowing that I have a whole lotta people basically going round kicking ass for me, so I guess only time will tell.

[Renegade]

Delphy, I think at this point, any one who has already heard of what happened in your past, no longer gives a shit/no longer holds it against you.  It's your past, it's your business, but the past should stay in the past.

It's unfortunate that people are bringing your shit into the "Paysites vs Freesites" issue, but those who are bringing it up are ridiculously immature and think that trashing you by bringing up your past is an excuse for why paysites are "better" and freesites are actually the "evil" ones.

Hopefully EA makes a clear statement for Sims3, and I hope that when that time comes around, you are not fully out of the game.  Anyone who has ever downloaded from MTS2 or who has benefitted in any way from what you've done for us, has gratitude for you, whether they express that or not.  Because without what you've done, we wouldn't have what we have now, we wouldn't have a huge site filled with free, quality stuff.  I'm not ass-kissing or anything, but I feel like what I've said is the truth.  You don't have to create much for the game itself, but the fact you provide us with a place for people to do so and share freely is enough.

I'm sorry that a bunch of morons out there feel the need to throw you into a flaming pit, and I'm sure we all understand that while it is in the past, it does bring up some bad things for you and does affect you.  No one deserves that.

Thank you for your efforts, and for staying as strong as you can, Delphy.

*Renegade

[Lorelei]

Delphy, I think at this point, any one who has already heard of what happened in your past, no longer gives a shit/no longer holds it against you.  It's your past, it's your business, but the past should stay in the past.

Well said!

I should probably edit the (very old) post at s2s.lj.com, too, because even though Delphy has not befriended or offended me, I have long since gone way beyond being neutral on the subject. Heck, even then, I was on his side.

Delphy may not be my bestest buddy, but I still feel warmly towards him for the good he has done for the community, his sense of humour when he visits, and because I see him as the aggrieved party.

If Delphy, or any other person, wishes to respond to the crazies point by point, I will post every letter of their comments. I always have posted every comment in all journals; I do reserve the right to preview them first to weed out any commercial links, porn images, or unintelligible BBS-speak, but have only had to reject one (Anonymous) comment ever, which was an uninspired and uncreative 'griefer' image (like 'Beecock'/'Goatse'/'Tubgirl', et cetera). No reason was given, and it didn't seem to be in response to anything, so it was probably just some bored kid trying to see how many journals they could post yucky stuff to.

As far as I am concerned, though, most people read the crap and my comments and understood full well that it was the work of crazy or vindictive buttholes, and I didn't even get the crazies chinchillagrl6 got when she posted the same thing for the same reason. (Darn!)

My personal preference, which may or may not be relevant, is that it remain an old and dead issue. The info is there not to injure Delphy, but to show the curious bystander what ludicrous crap was actually being said. Rumours without a definite source get distorted and morph, like in the game of Telephone, and since the allegations were horrific enough, that bugged me. There were a lot of tongues wagging, and many of those gossipers had, apparently, not even seen the original shitty post, but were merely passing on exaggerated tales heard second-hand, third-hand, fourth-hand, etcetera. Lots of naive youngsters blindly trusted that the rumours were true and attempted to crucify Delphy further for things he has not, in my opinion, done.

So I posted the screed, and made my opinions quite clear, and the comments I got were clearly in favour of Delphy, as should be, and against the fucktards who felt the need to start a crazy vendetta. (I did notice that some of the original comments to the post are gone, but I did not remove them. IT ARE A MYSTERY.)

My belief is that very, very few of the allegations have ever been even remotely true. What little was based in fact is old, old news, is no longer remotely relevant, and is none of our business.

I further believe that the whole thing was done to discredit a freesite owner who has done more to fight against people who break the EULA than most in the community, and done his best to prevent Moderator abuses, and the ringleader of the whole sorry event was probably Lyric Lee, plus some other co-conspirators (see the comments attached to the aforementioned sims2-snapshots link, where they are named).

I typically take a neutral stance in the community at large, but there are exceptions.
1. I am not neutral, in the least, where paysites are concerned. They are in the wrong. They must be destroyed.
2. Spreading vile gossip about community members in order to discredit them is shitty.
3. EA needs to clarify their position. As it stands, all we have is the EULA< which is pretty cut and dried to me: commercial gain related to The Sims is only for EA. No one else is allowed to make a buck on the game. Very simple, very clear. Whereas we have letters that further underscore this policy, we also are getting mixed messages, most of which seem to be due to EA not being full aware of these discrepancies (e.g., what Maxoids are saying, fansite lists, invites to events).
4. Maxis needs to stop having any say in game-related policy, because every decision they make seems to be fraught with stupidity and contradiction. As they are now owned by EA, and subject to EA's policies, they need to follow them.
5. Pescado is an ass, he knows he is an ass, he says openly that he is an ass, and, as such, I have no problem when he behaves like an ass. Especially when PMBD and MATY are there to show how much good he has done for the community as a whole.
6. Pirates rock.

[Lorelei]

And the award for best ass-licker goes to...

You, of course.

But whose paysite-loving anus are you sticking your tongue up? That's what inquiring minds want to know.

Now before you attack me for having an opinion

Do as you say, not as you do?

The hypocrisy in here astounds me! If this was a paysite owner's past, you know you would use it as ammunition against him.

We are far more focused on current actions and behaviors, actually. Unless the past actions are Sims community related, in which case they are relevant.

I don't have or want kids, but if I did, I would be the one responsible for them, not a school or church or government representative. To defer any of my personal responsibility for my spawn would be out of character for me.  

I have said my piece. You may attack me now. Sharpen those hyporitical teeth and feed away!

"Attack" you? No. Think that your insistence that this old, old news, which occurred long before Delphy was involved with Sims stuff in any way, and which we only know the barest details about is IRRELEVANT? Yes.

So, no, I wouldn't be a thoughtless sheep assuming that the gossip was true and going off on a "Think of the chillldruuun" tirade until I did my own homework. Too bad you can't do the same.

[calalily]

As Delphy stated, I too believe MTS2 would continue without him. The sims would not fall apart.

Actually I doubt that - there are no other sites up to the standard of MTS2 - or the size.  It is unrivalled, and I wonder that it could survive without Delphy's tireless devotion.

But by the same token, I also believe that this particular crime makes his current position as owner of a child-dominated game website inappropriate.

Child dominated? The game is rated for teens - there are no children involved.  He's not running the Wiggles site.

If Delphy were a teacher at a school, regardless of the level of his crime, you and I both know we would not send our kids there.

Delphy is not at a school - he's a distant site owner, who doesn't spend his whole time interacting with people - he spends a great deal of time tending to his site.   Teachers interact one on one with students day after day, and parents reinforce ideas of obeying teachers.  Delphy occassionally interacts one on one with people and nobody tells anyone else to obey him.  Not the same power balance at all even if you believe he's doing something wrong.

The hypocrisy in here astounds me! If this was a paysite owner's past, you know you would use it as ammunition against him.

Wrong!

When it came out that Jan from Main st. Sims is possibly schizophrenic, did you see posts on how all schizophrenics should be hospitalised and institutionalised or in any way used against her? No - because it's immaterial to her being a paysite owner.  People didn't care because they'd decided well before that that she is a mental bitch.

When someone made a racial stereotypical comment about Peggy - they were slapped down pretty fast.

Lurk Moar!

[syran]

The hypocrisy in here astounds me! If this was a paysite owner's past, you know you would use it as ammunition against him. You can't be that naive to believe you wouldn't?  I have seen things said in here that proves that. In fact, I have seen you run with information about people like sharks in a feeding frenzy, be they truth or lies. From what I have seen it doesn't seem to matter either way to this forum.

True if this was a paysite owners past we probably would be attacking but we only attack paysite owners because paysites are illegal.

But Delphy isn't a paysite owner and he has put his past behind him and has made mts2 the great site it is these people have no reasons or rights to go round spreading shit about him

[tngrspacecadet]

going back to the topic of TSR, according to EA, TSR is their top fansite if this quote is anything to go by: "We welcomed back our top fansite - The Sims Resource..."

http://thesims2.ea.com/community/fanday_2007.php

 :roll:    :evil:

[Jojoba]

In all honesty, I don't think that TSR being EA's top site is anything to worry about...its only because we are applying it to this kind of situation (pay vs free, and all that shizzle) that it matters - so what if TSR is EA's top site? That doesnt mean that mts2 and other sites are not good. And it doesnt mean that paysites are fine. Look at the Exchange I say  

[FightingRose]

And I'm pretty sure that a Maxoid said something to the effect that they rotate who is invited. Or something like that. Though I could have made that up in my mind or dreamed it the other day, thinking it's real. I have a tendency to do that.

[calalily]

That was a Sim Master on the MTS2 fanday thread.

[AW]

And the award for best ass-licker goes to...

~enter drum role here~  

Now before you attack me for having an opinion, this post is only an observation and not meant in any way to discredit Delphy. Like you, I believe Delphy's contribution to this entity that people refer to as a community, to be important. Maybe not as important as is made out, but still a contribution, nonetheless. As Delphy stated, I too believe MTS2 would continue without him. The sims would not fall apart.

That being said, I do believe that it is a shame that someone's past is used against them. Especially when they have paid for it. But by the same token, I also believe that this particular crime makes his current position as owner of a child-dominated game website inappropriate. If Delphy were a teacher at a school, regardless of the level of his crime, you and I both know we would not send our kids there. It's a simple fact. And to say you would continue to send your kids there, I believe is an untruth.

The hypocrisy in here astounds me! If this was a paysite owner's past, you know you would use it as ammunition against him. You can't be that naive to believe you wouldn't?  I have seen things said in here that proves that. In fact, I have seen you run with information about people like sharks in a feeding frenzy, be they truth or lies. From what I have seen it doesn't seem to matter either way to this forum.

I have said my piece. You may attack me now. Sharpen those hyporitical teeth and feed away!

First, using an example of school teacher / children is not even a true example - why?  Background checks are always done and there is student/teacher face to fact interaction which a teacher is hired to be there and instruct children.  Not the case with Delphy at all.  Delphy is not hired, does not receive a paycheck and the purpose of his site is not a specific age group.

Second, no I would not splash something like that across the internet.  It is done to smear the personal life of someone in an obnoxious manner.  We may "run" with information as you put it, but wasn't the person being talked about the original source of the information?  

I really don't know why I replied to this senseless message to begin with.  Flame you - it's not worth the effort.   MTS2 is not a child-dominated website either.  Good grief - it's not Pokemon.  This is actually none of your business or mine.  I monitor my children and their computer usage which as a parent is my responsibility.  The only reason this keeps coming up is because there are those who are just evil.  It is not your "right" or my "right" to know.  These other so-called events are the imaginations of people who are the real monsters.  Because if the don't like you or become angry at you, you become fair game and there are no boundaries in their behavior as they try to destroy you.  It is childish and immature, and I am no longer going to put up with anyone posting the shit again....period.