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« Reply #135 on: 2008 April 26, 02:26:20 »
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Thank you, now that post I read.  Your other posts were just too annoying.  I tend to skip the harder to read posts.
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« Reply #136 on: 2008 April 26, 02:43:13 »
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Wink Kenmtl thank you so much for listening and being good about the feedback.. That last post is much easier on my head than the one before.
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« Reply #137 on: 2008 April 26, 03:40:14 »
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I wanted tell you ‘my story’ and explain why I left TSR.  This is in by no means a cry for attention, I’m just tired of staying silent to ‘protect’ someone else.  I’ll skip a long and stupid intro and just jump right into the long and stupid story.  Tongue

Back toward the end of last year I began to get increasingly burned out on the creating aspect of being an FA.  There’s a constant pressure to make complete and unique sets, and on top of that I was trying to deal with learning to be the FA Artist Manager while constantly having to do ‘battle’ with Anita in the forums.  She was constantly overstepping her bounds in ways that were causing other FAs to avoid the forums all together.  There was a clear and mounting tension in there, and I found myself having to make myself check the forums for any ‘cries of help.’  By November I had to take a month-long hiatus just to keep from giving up completely, so you see how long this has been in coming.

At the end of January/beginning of February (not sure of the exact date), I received a disturbing PM from one of the FAs (I’m leaving names out of this completely) concerning Anita’s behavior not only on TSR but on other sites as well.   I’ve never gotten along with Anita, but I’ve always been professional in my dealings with her as she was a fellow FA.  There was evidence of her talking about the FAs behind everyone’s back, and information from the private FA forum was being leaked.  I was disgusted to say the least.  I’m a very private and quiet person by nature, and as such have a very difficult time opening up anywhere.  To think that things I may have said in what was supposed to be a private forum were leaked didn’t do much for my desire to become more social.

What I ended up having to do was send out a carefully worded PM to several FAs asking if they were having any problems with anything they felt they couldn’t discuss in public, and if so please let me know.  When eight out of thirteen contacted came back with complaints against Anita’s behavior, I contacted Thomas.  This wasn’t Anita’s first time being reprimanded, in fact I could remember several occasions in the past well before I was made the FA AM when she was called out on her actions.  I was even told privately that Cyclonesue stepped down as the AM because of having to deal with Anita.  (I want to mention now that we were publicly told she was stepping down from her AM position for very different reasons.  Keep this in mind for later.)

After what felt like weeks of back and forth arguing (it may have only been days, at this point things are starting to blur together), I finally decided I’d had enough and told Thomas I was ready to quit, not only as the AM but as an FA as well.  I’d been considering this for several months, and things had finally reached a point where I felt I was ready to go.  When I told Thomas this, he decided he would convince Anita to step down as an FA, but still be allowed to carry on her SA AM duties.  At that point, I was worn out from everything and said that would be a good compromise.  I was told she was very reluctant to give up her FA status.  Imagine my surprise when a few days later the story is completely covered up by Thomas with a nice patina of ‘Anita has chosen to step down as an FA in order to concentrate on her work as the SA AM.’  There was a similar post by Anita herself in the SA forum and her blog.  So essentially she gets to have a little slice of martyrdom while I’ll feel as though I’ve been slapped in the face.  The truth of why she was forced to step down was completely covered up, with only a very small handful of us knowing the real reasons behind it.

I will take a moment now to point out that none of this was in any way a personal vendetta of mine.  I was doing my job as the FA AM and bringing the concerns of a large portion of the FAs forward.  Though I’d been annoyed with Anita in the past (things like posting on every single thread brought up in the forums, being generally snippy and flat-out rude, etc.), I wasn’t going to start trouble.  I thought that perhaps it was just me who was feeling this way, and was startled to find out I wasn’t alone.

For several weeks after, things still felt very unsettled to me.  The place that had once seemed so inviting now felt off-kilter and often times downright hostile.  I’d long since been seeing signs of paranoia, and now I began to notice other disturbing patterns as well.  There had always been a strong feeling of ‘us vs. them,’ and the definition of ‘them’ seemed to waver between ‘the pirates’ and the SAs.  There was also a continuing air of ‘who can we trust,’ and I get the impression that no one was above suspicion.  In short, it wasn’t an environment I could relax in and be able to focus on my creations.

Things continued along these lines for several more weeks, and I slowly began to realize that it wasn’t just my sims stuff that was suffering.  I couldn’t focus on writing or playing my violin.  I was feeling trapped, and as time progressed I began to realize more and more that I was caught in the crossfire of  battles that I never really wanted any part in.  Once again I tried to quit, and was once again talked out of it for the time being.

Raychael and I decided we’d start our own site so we could have an outlet that was separate from TSR, just a place we could put things that didn’t come in complete sets, were older creations, or were too violent for TSR’s PG13 rating.  We wanted our own space where we could create things just for the fun of it, without any pressure from anyone.  What we got in return was a series of what felt like accusatory emails from Thomas, questioning our motives on more than one occasion even after being given what I felt was a thorough and honest explanation.

Finally, on April 19th we emailed Thomas telling him we no longer wished to be FAs.  After some back and forth, I was finally able to make it clear that I was serious and set on retiring.  I’d had enough of being in the ‘paysite debate’ spotlight, and all I wanted to do was have a little piece of the internet where I could put the things I created for fun out there for ANYONE else who wanted them.  I’m not anti-paysite, I’m not anti-freesite, I just want to have fun and live & let live.  I could no longer do that if I was an FA.  I will say right now that until that Saturday when we quit, neither Raychael nor I had ventured over here since probably sometime in late November or early December of ‘06.  (The only reason we even went back on Saturday was due to an unrelated PM we received about something going on here where we were mentioned in a screencap of a PM from Anita.)  So as you see, the decision to leave was based almost entirely on what was going on at TSR, and only a very small amount on what anyone on any anti-paysite site may have had to say about me/us.

Sadly just stepping down wasn’t quite the end of it; we continued to have to deal with things at TSR.  When it was clear we were serious about quitting, Thomas didn’t want us to announce it anywhere.  He asked us to just sort of ‘fade away’ rather than taking the time to tell anyone we were leaving.  I refused to do that, because I will not lie to people.  As you’re all well aware, both Raychael and I made our announcements in our blogs, and then were taken off the FA list.  Then there was the attempt to keep our files subscriber only.  I’m still literally angry with rage over the attempt to guilt us into allowing them to keep it locked, and the ridiculous attempts to convince us it was normal to do this.  Thankfully the situation was resolved and now all our files are freely available.

I suppose that brings me to where we are now, which is with Raychael and I greatly enjoying our new-found freedom and rediscovering what it’s like to create just for the sake of creating.  The response to our decision has been overwhelming, and we’re still a bit in shock over it. 

I’m not telling you any of this just to make TSR look bad or anything of the sort; I just wanted to tell my side of the story, and to give a glimpse of what goes on behind the scenes.  I’ve been quiet about this for way too long.   I couldn’t continue to be part of a group that so readily tries to sweep all its problems under the rug and contradicts themselves at almost every step, not to mention lying as easily as breathing.

Raychael said this over on GoS, and I felt it would end this fairly well: 

“So I suppose what I'm try to say is that I'd like you to give us the benefit of the doubt; we're not stuck-up, egotistical maniacs, just incredibly anti-social and somewhat uncomfortable with talking to people. We're really glad to see so much support over our decision to leave TSR, and it's greatly appreciated and has helped a lot (it's also a bit weird, we honestly didn't think people liked our stuff that much to care!).”

-Danielle/Aikea

(edited to fix a really stupid typo.)
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« Reply #138 on: 2008 April 26, 03:53:47 »
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Thanks so much Aikea for that insight. I am glad you walked away before it got too taxing on you. You may not have any standing in the debate of pay vs free, but you understand that pressure of creating something that was meant to be fun - for pay. It isn't fun when someone treats you like a work horse. Your creations are great, and I really really hope you guys continue to create as long as your creativity and interest is still in love with Sims.

Yay to Aikea and Gelydh! I now am late for work, but who cares! Cheesy
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« Reply #139 on: 2008 April 26, 03:54:56 »
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Danielle

That was beautifully put and very dignified.. That's the only reason why most of the free site creators have our sites and make stuff is because it's our hobby and we like having fun, so we get that motivation totally. I mean, this is something you do in your spare time, it shouldn't be giving you an ulcer. You'll find tons of friends and fun to be had out here in the bigger community.

I actually hadn't checked out your stuff because I generally don't visit TSR but I went to have a look after you left TSR and I adore those regency tailcoats you did.

And welcome to the Phorum! I'm not a pirate either, I've never used Booty stuff in my life.. I just like the environment here, it's full of cathartic, silly fun.

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« Reply #140 on: 2008 April 26, 04:02:45 »
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That was very interesting and insightful to read. Thank you for sharing your side of things.

Thanks so much Aikea for that insight. I am glad you walked away before it got too taxing on you. You may not have any standing in the debate of pay vs free, but you understand that pressure of creating something that was meant to be fun - for pay. It isn't fun when someone treats you like a work horse. Your creations are great, and I really really hope you guys continue to create as long as your creativity and interest is still in love with Sims.
I concur with deelink and welcome to the phorum. Wink
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« Reply #141 on: 2008 April 26, 04:07:49 »
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Well done and welcome!
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« Reply #142 on: 2008 April 26, 04:10:01 »
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Wonderfully put, aikea_guinea.

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I’d had enough of being in the ‘paysite debate’ spotlight, and all I wanted to do was have a little piece of the internet where I could put the things I created for fun out there for ANYONE else who wanted them.


This was encouraging beyond words. Thank you for sharing the reasons behind your decision to leave TSR. Also, best of luck with the new site. It looks amazing.
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« Reply #143 on: 2008 April 26, 04:26:08 »
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Freedom's the treasure beyond Earthly measure. I'm so glad that you and Gelydh have yours and have rediscovered the joy of creating for fun! Thank you so very much for coming here to tell us your side of it, it means a lot and gives more understanding to what you went through. I'd also like to say welcome to you and Gelydh, because you are good people and make fantastic creations, thanks for sharing them with all of us in the community.
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« Reply #144 on: 2008 April 26, 05:08:36 »
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Thanks for explaining your side of things, Aikea. Have fun with your freedom!
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« Reply #145 on: 2008 April 26, 05:18:25 »
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just incredibly anti-social and somewhat uncomfortable with talking to people.

As someone who has social anxiety disorder to the point that it is hard for me to leave the house, I completely understand this. I have to force myself to do "normal" things, like go to movies, store, etc. I have been lurking here for a LONG time, and have only felt "at home" enough to start posting in the last 24 hours.  Welcome, and hugs to a fellow anti-social.
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« Reply #146 on: 2008 April 26, 05:22:12 »
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oh lord, why would you ever be scared of us? Most of us don't bite.. Paden does, but that's only when she has a meal of stupid people to feast on.  Wink
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« Reply #147 on: 2008 April 26, 05:34:12 »
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Hi Danielle, Thank you so much for taking the time to explain things so clearly, it's a sad state of affairs when they cover up your side of the story while protecting the guilty, and then to try to stop you saying your goodbyes is just plain mean. I'm glad you didn't just 'fade away' you're both very talented, and you deserved better. I wish you the best of luck with your new site and for the future. *hugs*

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« Reply #148 on: 2008 April 26, 05:37:22 »
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Yeah, what she said! Plus, I really have to have my tail yanked before I'll pounce so you ought to be safe, you don't seem to be the tail-yanking type of person I would bite. Besides, we share a nerdom, so I think you'll be safe from me. I try not to start crap, but if someone starts poking me with sticks when they shouldn't ought to, I'll spork them hard and fast, specially if they're trolls or pay site owners, they're just fun to taunt. I think it's a Kender thing, from back in the day when I used to play one during a Dragon Lance RPG with some friends online... That, and I just detest idiots and assholes with a passion... I grew up with enough of them.
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« Reply #149 on: 2008 April 26, 05:45:04 »
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Welcome, Aikea, and I sincerely hope you rediscover the joy that your art gives you.

Thank you for sharing your formidable talents with us.   Smiley

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