Reduce Demand! Download from Free Sites Instead!

[calalily]

I don't really want to put excessive pressure on you   Ultimately, if it's free, I'm not going to quibble with you alot - or make your job difficult - that defeats the whole purpose.  

My personal view is that if you include free things from paysites, then you could be forfeiting something that if you looked, could be found in a freesite.  Not to mention that it saves you from the whole "well no one would want it without the TSR window set".

Not to mention that if you put it out to freesite owners that you would like say postmodern rooms, then they might help you by pointing out theirs' or someone else's appropriate content.  

[i saw drones]

very very good points

My personal view is that if you include free things from paysites, then you could be forfeiting something that if you looked, could be found in a freesite. Not to mention that it saves you from the whole "well no one would want it without the TSR window set"

this point is a very good one, though with the TSR window set thingy, it wouldn't be a problem, because everything in a picture - walls floors windows doors evvvverything would be freely available (for free, obviously) so you could get around that. just because something comes in a 'set' doesn't necessarily mean it has to go with that set all the time right!
i do agree with your point about just looking for something that could be found on a freesite, it's a great idea. i think i'll definitely need to wrangle in a few people to help me out sooner rather than later, hehe.

Not to mention that if you put it out to freesite owners that you would like say postmodern rooms, then they might help you by pointing out theirs' or someone else's appropriate content.

i really like this idea, and it was something i was thinking about, getting people to point out content for the project. i love the idea that it's all unsolicited, you know, just referrals and stuff, word of mouth is the best!

there could be a 'suggest a site' or even just 'suggest an object' type form somewhere on the sitewhere people can make suggestions, i think that would work very well.

i don't want to make it too involved, just a nice site/catalogue thing which grows every month to show off all the fabulous content that is freeeee!

[Paden]

*comes out of her doze from under the truck* TSR??? Blow it up! *goes back to sleep*

[calalily]

this point is a very good one, though with the TSR window set thingy, it wouldn't be a problem, because everything in a picture

Ah see, I've had many a disagreement on S2C with paysite owners, who said well you wouldn't like xxx if there wasn't free stuff from a paysite in it - you're really supporting paysites.  Their claim is that freesites relying on free content from paysites just supports the idea that in order to have the large amount of free content, you need to pay the bills with pay content.  If that makes sense.  

i do agree with your point about just looking for something that could be found on a freesite, it's a great idea. i think i'll definitely need to wrangle in a few people to help me out sooner rather than later, hehe.

You know that if you asked here, someone would be able to provide the information.  

[RedLove]

this point is a very good one, though with the TSR window set thingy, it wouldn't be a problem, because everything in a picture

Ah see, I've had many a disagreement on S2C with paysite owners, who said well you wouldn't like xxx if there wasn't free stuff from a paysite in it - you're really supporting paysites.  Their claim is that freesites relying on free content from paysites just supports the idea that in order to have the large amount of free content, you need to pay the bills with pay content.  If that makes sense.  

It didn't that's why they're wrong.  

[calalily]

It didn't that's why they're wrong.  

Actually, I was wondering whether I made sense.  

I'm mainly thinking of the strategic advantage of being able to use free site stuff - all reliance on paysites can be eschewed, and no one can say "well that's not all "freesite" stuff, is it?"  

[RedLove]

It didn't that's why they're wrong.  

Actually, I was wondering whether I made sense.  

I'm mainly thinking of the strategic advantage of being able to use free site stuff - all reliance on paysites can be eschewed, and no one can say "well that's not all "freesite" stuff, is it?"  

Oh well, no you didn't make sense to me, but then again I don't really count. :lol: They're still wrong though.

[calalily]

They're still wrong though.

Well, no, they have an arguable point - that free sites rely on paysite mentality.  Some paysites justify their pay content by saying that they need the bandwidth money for free stuff - so they sell a small amount of content to pay for bandwidth for free stuff - thus their free content is supported by their pay content.  I do believe this is the argument that Holy Simoly puts forth for having pay content - to try to give everyone the free stuff.

*Hence, free stuff on paysites wouldn't exist without the pay content.*

I see it differently - in that this is the free samples to tempt you to buy stuff, but we're not trying to get already converts to use free stuff - we're trying to get paysite lemmings to use free stuff.

[Rose]

No, I think it sends a stronger message when all the items in a picture are from 100% free sites.

I just personally have an HS addiction. Like their Adelle dining chair and Piggisims' recolors. (Ahhh that's a great chair.)

But I wouldn't mind putting in the extra effort to use all free content from all free sites. Just wanted to check the guidelines before I got started making a room.

[RedLove]

They're still wrong though.

Well, no, they have an arguable point - that free sites rely on paysite mentality.  Some paysites justify their pay content by saying that they need the bandwidth money for free stuff - so they sell a small amount of content to pay for bandwidth for free stuff - thus their free content is supported by their pay content.  I do believe this is the argument that Holy Simoly puts forth for having pay content - to try to give everyone the free stuff.

But that doesn't make sense when you consider that Noukie, Jess, and others are running sites on voluntary donations. There are other alternatives other than having pay content to pay for crap. Ads are annoying yes but they would work for a small site like Jan/Bev/ WTFever. It still doesn't make that much sense to me. =D

[Paden]

I still say blow up the paysites, then we won't have to worry about the bastiges... use bubble soap on their mother boards, bubble gum in their CPU's or Super Elastic Bubble Plastic in their power source, blow 'em up! *goes back to sleep, flu sucks*

[i saw drones]

hmm i guess i have a lot to think about.. lol

[deelink]

I mean is it really wrong to use an item on a room if that item has always been free from the paysite owner?

It's still free.

I'd help.
I pride myself on making great rooms, I would love to have a reason to show em off, and to help find stuff. Sure I'd be happy to learn how to make a webpage because uh.. Im computer retarded.

But if it helps the cause to blow TSR up... I'm all for it! And I shall give it my best

[i saw drones]

i sortof agree, while i understand totally what calalily means.

but a free item is still a free item, ya know?

i'll take care of all the 'getting it all online' stuff, with hosting and updates and everything and if people find things but don't really want to make them into a setting, thats cool, just point me in the direction and i'll do it, no drama!

please, if anyone would like to help me out, just pm me (i don't want to saturate this thread with my shit any more than i have already - apologies!! lol) so yeah, pm me or email me (sarah at sixty-ten dot net).
i would be eternally grateful!

this is still in its infancy, and i really still need to figure a few things out, but i'd love to get the first issue/get it all up online in the next month!

p.s i'm thinking a nice wee addition to the site i set up would be a sweet freesite feature blog type thing - with links and pictures and stuff as a suppliment - like if we find a sweet FREESITE (not paysite, lol) it's worthwhile to feature it - give them some love. i think it would be fair for this section to be ONLY for 100% free sites, because they deserve our love more than the free/pay sites!

<3

[deelink]

"like if we find a sweet paysite it's worthwhile to feature it - give them some love"

What?

:shock: