Would Anyone Care to Chime In?

[Randomness]

I recently managed to get one of the forums I occasionally frequent (Boolprop.com) to allow a discussion of the file-sharing issue. Hooray! However, one of the mods thinks that I have been responding too often and that it looks more like an, 'Argue with Denimjo'-type thread rather than a debate. Would anyone else care to add to the discussion to distribute the points freely through other people?

ETA: The only thing they ask (besides civility) is that this site not be linked to.

[BlueSoup]

In one of your posts, on Page 2, you state that someone pays $60/month for unmetered bandwidth.  I think you probably meant $60/year.

Anyhow, I'm reading the thread to see if there's anything I want to respond to.

Edit:  And WTF is up with this chick Ameshisuto with the ginormous signature who disagrees with people calling others by their screenname?  Ugh.

[neriana]

Bigsmallquack says, "A chunk of MATY is a paysite."

*snerk*

Hey, wait a minute, just a chunk? Which chunk would that be? I thought our subscription fees were going to pay for Pescado's bunker, TJ's doghouse, and, er.... Crammyboy's cock?

[lemmiwinks]

Oh, dear, I had hoped to not have to say this, but.... Lmao!

[Ensign EO]

It's nice that the moderator jumped in to save a thread that didn't seem to need it.  And that non-moderator, too.

I think Ameshisuto was talking about people's names because she just wants to boost her post count.  And feel important.

I don't care what people call me on a forum, as long as I can recognise it as being in reference to me.  On another forum where I was EO, someone kept calling me EQ... Never had a conniption over that.  :roll:

The paysite debate keeps degenerating into ethics, and ethics battles... not my cup of tea.  I know that not everyone agrees with my ethics, so I see no point in bringing it up more than the one time I take to express it, especially when my opinion isn't... er, in terms of the mainstream here, "correct"?

But anyway, there's a chance that I'm secretly LyricLee/HC--RetailSims lady/Rose/Peggy/my cat in disguise and through a convoluted process, will overthrow JM from here.  Or not, but the chance exists!

[Aquamarine]

Oh god tl;dr on that thread.

Morality is overrated. Do whatever keeps you from slaughtering the masses and move on. I hate people who have to become the moral fucking authority on everything. They're emotionally repressed assholes who could use a good backhand to the brain.

[migamoo]

Any non-paysite owner against file-sharing is just pissed they didn't think of it first.

[Solowren]

*is planning on reading the entire thread*

Interesting so far.

[Sherry]

Oh god tl;dr on that thread.

Morality is overrated. Do whatever keeps you from slaughtering the masses and move on. I hate people who have to become the moral fucking authority on everything. They're emotionally repressed assholes who could use a good backhand to the brain.

Mmm I don't mind when others find morality or God in not doing or doing certain things.  That part is fine.  I just dislike when they try to change the actions of OTHERS because of THEIR morals.  This is something that pisses me off to no end, with paysite lemmings and the real world.  

It's just a completely retarded argument, as morality is not a subjective term that you can just throw around wherever you please.  If you find filesharing wrong, if you can't sleep with yourself at night for doing it, then I don't think you should.  However I can, and have no moral or emotional issues in doing so, and no one has any place to tell me not to, save EA games.

[calalily]

Actually, I'm a university ethics teacher, so I know quite a bit about ethics.

The "moral argument" relies on subjective ethics - which is relative to your ethical standpoint.  For example, there is a system of ethics known as Individual ethical egoism, which states that everyone else should do what I want.  So under this system of ethics, it is permissible to force paysites to give you their content for free.  Then there is Nicomachean ethics, which states that if you are a good person, with values like loyalty etc. that everything you do is morally correct (because what sticky choices a good person makes must be correct, because they are a good person).

People talk about "morals" as if there is a standard that everyone follows and that just isn't true.  Nor is there one system of ethics.  So technically, everyone can be "morally right" and still disagree.

[lemmiwinks]

Actually, I'm a university ethics teacher, so I know quite a bit about ethics.

The "moral argument" relies on subjective ethics - which is relative to your ethical standpoint.  For example, there is a system of ethics known as Individual ethical egoism, which states that everyone else should do what I want.  So under this system of ethics, it is permissible to force paysites to give you their content for free.  Then there is Nicomachean ethics, which states that if you are a good person, with values like loyalty etc. that everything you do is morally correct (because what sticky choices a good person makes must be correct, because they are a good person).

People talk about "morals" as if there is a standard that everyone follows and that just isn't true.  Nor is there one system of ethics.  So technically, everyone can be "morally right" and still disagree.

Hence war.

[FatedCircle]

Heh...speaking of boolprop.com...

They've recently started turning to their flock of mostly teenaged members for donations to cover their $200 per month hosting fees.  Yes...I said per month.  I'm thinking $200 a month would get me a decent car, not to mention I don't like the thought of exploiting the naivety of teenaged kids.  Do I think they're being ripped off?  Hell yes.  Don't try to tell them that though, they'll defend their ways until they're blue in the face.  Precious group, ain't they?

[caryse]

I don't even have a clue what the site is, but I'm sure enjoying jumping into the debate.

C.

[Solowren]

I don't even have a clue what the site is, but I'm sure enjoying jumping into the debate.

C.

I can tell. ;O

[Quinctia]

Hopefully my "no one else does this, Simmers are being hoodwinked" will make a nice point...

However, if that Kaibon keeps randomly using the Japanese pronoun for "you," I will pitch a bitchfit.

That's what "anata" means, and that's why you assumed she was accusing someone else of rolling eyes at her, I suppose.  She keeps randomly saying it and it makes absolutely no sense.

What's with the first name-ish usage over there, anyway?  Anywhere else on the internet, it's ridiculously rude to just assume you can use someone's first name.