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[Anouk]

They should have called it:

"Waaah I wanna fool people without hindrance!"

[Roxelane]

Ich halte es nicht für unwahrscheinlich, dass das FBI eine Spezialeinheit für die SIMS einrichtet. In diesem speziellen Fall werden wahrscheinlich Scully und Mulder ermitteln.


I do not hold it for improbable that the FBI forms a special department for the SIMS . In this special case Scully and Mulder will probably determine.
(Copy by Taroo/Tarox)

         

[HawkGirl]

Heh. So thats where you have been Inge...

In case any one is wondering, the Admin there who calls herself GreyGoose I strongly think is dear Inge...stuff she says in this thread http://z11.invisionfree.com/SaveTheSimsCommunity/index.php?showtopic=2 is also the same that she said at S2C.

 :roll:

WB, you should have posted this in the ARR? area, dont want to give them any publicity.

I believe it is Inge, Thomas, and Greg as well, and look here now they are back and saying Delphy was removed from the BBS because of child porn and Nouk's letters from EA were photoshopped.

http://z11.invisionfree.com/SaveTheSimsCommunity/index.php?showtopic=20

I edited this post I don't want to give them any heads up on what was said back and forth between, the evidence that changed hands between us and EA. But I will call them tomorrow and let them know I have changed my mind.

[SparklePlenty]

Heh. So thats where you have been Inge...

In case any one is wondering, the Admin there who calls herself GreyGoose I strongly think is dear Inge...stuff she says in this thread http://z11.invisionfree.com/SaveTheSimsCommunity/index.php?showtopic=2 is also the same that she said at S2C.

 :roll:

You are so right. I does sound an awful lot like Inge. She has really turned her coat, hasn't she? (And how come nobody ever says MY letter from EA was photoshopped? I got my own version of the letter from EA, saying I had better not try selling my stuff made with their tools, or else I was looking at possible litigation.)

[Apsalar]

Is it just me, or does anyone else get the sudden inexplicable urge to have a rum orgy?  

[Paleoanth]

They are even accusing Echo of being a plant.  I say let them do what they want and have all these agencies laugh at them.

[Jojoba]

Heh. So thats where you have been Inge...

In case any one is wondering, the Admin there who calls herself GreyGoose I strongly think is dear Inge...stuff she says in this thread http://z11.invisionfree.com/SaveTheSimsCommunity/index.php?showtopic=2 is also the same that she said at S2C.

 :roll:

WB, you should have posted this in the ARR? area, dont want to give them any publicity.

I believe it is Inge, Thomas, and Greg as well, and look here now they are back and saying Delphy was removed from the BBS because of child porn and Nouk's letters from EA were photoshopped.

http://z11.invisionfree.com/SaveTheSimsCommunity/index.php?showtopic=20

I edited this post I don't want to give them any heads up on what was said back and forth between, the evidence that changed hands between us and EA. But I will call them tomorrow and let them know I have changed my mind.

*sigh* Next they will be saying that you talking with EA is a load of bullshit.  :roll:

Meh. Know I know that I shouldnt ask, as as soon as I do ask he will immediately not do it - but Pes could you please move this to ARR? ? I dont think we should give them any publicity whatsoever.

[HawkGirl]

Heh. So thats where you have been Inge...

In case any one is wondering, the Admin there who calls herself GreyGoose I strongly think is dear Inge...stuff she says in this thread http://z11.invisionfree.com/SaveTheSimsCommunity/index.php?showtopic=2 is also the same that she said at S2C.

 :roll:

WB, you should have posted this in the ARR? area, dont want to give them any publicity.

I believe it is Inge, Thomas, and Greg as well, and look here now they are back and saying Delphy was removed from the BBS because of child porn and Nouk's letters from EA were photoshopped.

http://z11.invisionfree.com/SaveTheSimsCommunity/index.php?showtopic=20

I edited this post I don't want to give them any heads up on what was said back and forth between, the evidence that changed hands between us and EA. But I will call them tomorrow and let them know I have changed my mind.

*sigh* Next they will be saying that you talking with EA is a load of bullshit.  :roll:

Meh. Know I know that I shouldnt ask, as as soon as I do ask he will immediately not do it - but Pes could you please move this to ARR? ? I dont think we should give them any publicity whatsoever.

I edited my post, I even asked SparklePlenty to edit her's so we don't give them any heads up on that, and then you post it. lol They can say what they want to about mine I found two in email so far. Mine came in Email, not on tech support, so I have proof where mine came from. I removed the name No more heads up.

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Greetings,

Thank you for contacting Electronic Arts.

Thank you for taking the time to write and help us with this issue. I appreciate your dedication to us and helping us root out the bad seeds. Please take your time in getting me the information. I look forward to your reply.

This was the first one.

[Jojoba]

Teh. I am very disappointed in Inge. I always supported FFFS, and there were a lot of people who did the same. I read about it here, and even though people here did not think much of it, I went and joined anyway and regularly took part in the discussions there. I offered a lot of kind words to her when she was feeling down about it. And then she goes and shuts down the whole thing just because there was a slight tiff here  :roll: And then goes and takes part in that site. Bah humbug Inge, bah humbug.

LOL Di, sorry hun! Do you want me to go back and edit my post at all? Meh every single thing that you have publicly said here, and privately to me in PMs here and at Insim have only strengthened (is that a real word?! =/) what I already believe - EA do not give a damn about it all, they just dont want to be involved and for us (not the PMBD 'us' but as in the whole simming community) to sort it out. Whereas Maxis, and good old hippie Will Wright, really do not like paysites and want this all sorted.

[HawkGirl]

Teh. I am very disappointed in Inge. I always supported FFFS, and there were a lot of people who did the same. I read about it here, and even though people here did not think much of it, I went and joined anyway and regularly took part in the discussions there. I offered a lot of kind words to her when she was feeling down about it. And then she goes and shuts down the whole thing just because there was a slight tiff here  :roll: And then goes and takes part in that site. Bah humbug Inge, bah humbug.

LOL Di, sorry hun! Do you want me to go back and edit my post at all? Meh every single thing that you have publicly said here, and privately to me in PMs here and at Insim have only strengthened (is that a real word?! =/) what I already believe - EA do not give a damn about it all, they just dont want to be involved and for us (not the PMBD 'us' but as in the whole simming community) to sort it out. Whereas Maxis, and good old hippie Will Wright, really do not like paysites and want this all sorted.

Nah just leave it, I can't believe what they are saying about Echo, Nouk and Delphy. Let them have their little fun, they're trying to get our goats, and were not going to let them. I'm gonna call Maxis tomorrow and tell Will to take a look at that site, and what this has caused by him not doing something sooner. Who is the real person behind that thread and who all the players are. To please go and read all their posts one at a time. I'm also going to call EA and give them that site, to go and read how they are now claiming to have copyright over their own CC. Quite frankly my dear JoJoba I don't give a rats arse if they believe my posts/emails, I don't have to prove a thing to these people. I won't post any more of the correspondence I had with them, why should we let them in our circle? I think the only other person that has seen all the corresponce I have had with them is Hec. I believe I forwarded everything to her, and she's not going to tell them what all was said, all anyone else knows about is all the evidence we gathered and bits and pieces of it all.

Let's just cross our finger's that this sends EA over the edge, and the patience they've shown is cut off.

[Paleoanth]

Teh. I am very disappointed in Inge.

Do we know for sure it is Inge or someone who took her posts and is using them?

[silver]

OK. Greg is starting to scare me, but not in the way he intends.

The guy is starting to act like he is truly unhinged.

Let me get this straight. The ICCC has primarily been formed to handle credit card scams, identity theft, hacking attempts and phishing schemes, among other crimes. They, like most agencies, have limited staff and a limited budget.

Now they are expected to step away from pursuing credit card scammers and phishing con-artists, and prosecute someone who posts files that are of debatable copyright on a website? Even those files that openly use Disney and other corporate logos and charge people to use them, thus violating corporate copyrights? Even those who don't file their income with the IRS? (And while I think Neptune Suzy mentioned something about a $500 limit, my accountant told us that it is a wise idea to file ALL sources of income if we don't want to run any risk of running afoul of the IRS. We were even told to list the $100 we got from EBay sales!)

I guess the people at ICCC must have so few credit card scammers and phishers to pursue that they are foaming at the mouth to track the IP numbers of thousands of downloaders around the world (and there are hundreds, if not thousands, who are not registered and download from the booty). Oh, and the one organization who might actually BE of use in their case ... EA ... has stated per their EULA that the sites are not to be used for commercial use, and has sat on the fence regarding paysites.

Are all these paysites (US ones, anyway) ready to open their books to hungry IRS agents and state income tax agents (and I can tell you from bitter experience .... if a federal or state tax agent senses there is money to be had from you, they WILL hound you, whether you actually owe or not, until the issue is resolved)? Are they willing to deal with copyright notifications from Disney, et. al, since I am am not exactly convinced that Disney told a site to go ahead and use their copyrighted images and sell them? And that would be only a couple of the expenses they could expect ...

If anyone is dividing the Sims Community, it's paysites, which is why the Save the Sims Community title is such an oxymoron. And what is so sad is that with just a bit of creativity and know-how, sites wanting money can avoid this, yet still collect funds for ... whatever. They could use the money for whatever they wish. Everyone can win. This sniping and ill will and hatred is 100% preventable. And I actually find that very, very sad.

[Jojoba]

..... Quite frankly my dear JoJoba I don't give a rats arse if they believe my posts/emails, I don't have to prove a thing to these people. I won't post any more of the correspondence I had with them, why should we let them in our circle? I think the only other person that has seen all the corresponce I have had with them is Hec. I believe I forwarded everything to her, and she's not going to tell them what all was said, all anyone else knows about is all the evidence we gathered and bits and pieces of it all.

Let's just cross our finger's that this sends EA over the edge, and the patience they've shown is cut off.

Yup! Well let me know what happens from that...drop me a PM here...actually Insim is better, my inbox is getting full all the moment and I dont notice and forget to clear it out  :oops: Woops!

But if, as you put it, this sends EA over the edge, what would they actually do?! They arent going to start sueing paysites...too many of them now.  :?  Maybe small changes...like remove paysites off the official fan listings. Meh I doubt they will do anthing, big multi national companies only care about money and making sure it keeps coming.

Tomato - yeh, it might not be Inge...but it really looks like it is her to me =/ It could be someone taking her posts, but they are taking her exact words and adding to them and elaborating the points. In the link I posted, in bold is the anti pay point, and in normal text is criticising it - I immediately recognised one of them as being from S2C, so went and lookedm and the anti pay point is at s2c, with a reply from Inge..and then at this site thingy there are her same words just with more added. Did that make sense?! I am quite tired today lol. Sorry if it didnt

[redisenchanted]

Well, I hope it's not Inge. I will lose respect for her if it is. I remain suspicious but not positive.  

I am not a fan of Delphy, but if anyone has evidence that he is currently involved in inappropriate activities with underage girls, he needs to be reported to the authorities, not gossiped about in some obscure forum.  :roll:  He never has been open about how much money he takes in and spends, that's one reason why I no longer donate to MTS2. It has no relevance to the paysite issue though. Funny how Nouk's screenshots are fakes, but theirs regarding Delphy's finances are not.  :roll:

[Aquamarine]

It looks like Inge to me as well. Frankly, I'm not surprised.

I do not hold it for improbable that the FBI forms a special department for the SIMS . In this special case Scully and Mulder will probably determine.

Everyone in the library is giving me dirty looks now. Thanks for this.  :lol: