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16  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / You know the funny thing... on: 2006 November 13, 19:30:35
Quote from: "avic"
Quote from: "BlueSoup"
If you think I am lying to myself, well you just don't know me at all. Tongue

First of all, I've spent well over $200 on custom content alone.  I never said I needed any of it.  When I said that content was "being held hostage," I meant that creators with overinflated egos have determined that their shit is worth well over what Maxis/EA has determined their own stuff to be worth.

Do you really think it's fair for some shite creator to detemine that 8 lousy skins is worth $5 which is a quarter of what EA charges for an entire add-on stuff pack?

Give me a fucking break.

Also, I don't have any of this shit in my game.  I have very specific creators that I love and I've happily donated to them where I could.  Most of what I have are from free sites.  The only reason I donate to paysites is because I either love it, or I got it specifically to share with others.

My mother and my kindergarten teacher both told me it's polite to share your toys, and who am I to argue with that kind of wisdom? Wink


Nope, I don't think it's a fair market value to pay $5 for a PoS skin.  So I don't pay said $5, nor do I have said skins in my game.  And while I'll agree with that, I don't agree that the correct course of action is to take said work and post it for anyone who wants it.


Answer this question. Paysites tell us everywhere that they own the copyright. When I go to the site though they tell me this

This site is not endorsed by or affiliated with Electronic Arts, or its licensors. Trademarks are the property of their respective owners. Game content and materials copyright Electronic Arts Inc. and its licensors. All Rights Reserved

They know I paid them money for access to  GAME CONTENT. and they also tell me that on their site (meaning their specific files) Game content and materials copyright Electronic Arts Inc So tell me where exactly am I going against a copyright and STEALING anything. I did pay for the access(I am not sharing the access) and EA has made it plan and clear that we can share GAME CONTENT. They actually have set up the EXCHANGE so people can share GAME CONTENT, so you really need to come up with a better argument. Hey, I have an idea, why dont you people use your secret forum to come up with a better argument instead of sharing personal info because quite frankly a lot of people have come to our side because of that sharing of personal information. I think even EA may step in and make their point a little clearer now that there is a danger aspect from going to a paysite.
17  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Interesting forum on: 2006 November 13, 04:22:41
Quote from: "Doc_Oc"
U ALL SUXX0RZ HWO DRE U STEAL

THEEEEEEEIIIIVEEESSSS!!!!111ONEONE1EONE

NOE ME'N GREEN GOBLIN WILL TEAM UP WIF DEH LIZZARDZ AND DEH VULTUREZZ (WHO R ALL UBERKEWL) AN' STEALSZ ALLZ YO SHIT BACK AN CRAZH YA SERVER!!!

 :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:


Can you tell your friends to hold off posting for 24 hours. My doctor put me on restrictions. I can only read so much jibberish a day and you have just maxed me out. Not to mention I cant get my crack refilled until Tuesday.  "No pun intended"
18  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / And here she goes again... on: 2006 November 13, 02:36:46
Quote from: "Your Mother Has Scurvy"
Quote from: "Lackey"
Someone with myspace needs to give her a link to the EA post. I would ove to read her rant on that.


Sure, why not.

Drop me a link and I'll pass it her way.


the link

http://bbs.thesims2.ea.com/community/bbs/messages.php?&openItemID=item.21,root.1,item.61,item.104,item.127,item.23&threadID=f051ce280c05ed64defc84e25f770998&directoryID=2&startRow=1#a3535cda9ae6c278284ec2190cd4cac6
19  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / And here she goes again... on: 2006 November 13, 02:27:19
Someone with myspace needs to give her a link to the EA post. I would ove to read her rant on that.
20  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Interesting forum on: 2006 November 13, 00:58:05
I think we should go deflower his forum. Seems a little boring over there anyways.
21  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Interesting forum on: 2006 November 13, 00:53:27
HUH? Could you repeat that please. Sorry but I was smoking crack with my Mom the day they taught jibberish in school. The class on translating stupidity I missed because Mom had a toothache and I had to give the blowjob.
22  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Interesting post on Sim2.com on: 2006 November 12, 22:51:30
Quote from: "Sherry"
Intersting but, I can see people trying to twist the wording around now that I have been reading it multiple times

> after you upload it, implies to me that the creator of the item deliberately uploaded the item
> there is no copyright on this site - again sounds more specific about the exchange and not all sims .packages in general
> If you upload it, it actually doesn't belong to you but to EA and EA gives the right for users to use their things  -- again you are going to have people saying that only applies to the exchange

I it's a step in the right direction for sure, I hope they will have a make a clearer statement, as I can just see this being picked apart by creators.  :roll:


One could argue these points but, this is in repsonse to someone complaining about their meshes being uploaded to the exchange, not the fact they uploaded it themselves and then wanted it off. Combine this plain English post and combine it with what is required to be on any site
Quote
This site is not endorsed by or affiliated with Electronic Arts, or its licensors. Trademarks are the property of their respective owners. Game content and materials copyright Electronic Arts Inc. and its licensors. All Rights Reserved


I mean they are selling/giving away game content. You download game content from a site that has that posted(which is all of them) it is being done with the knowledge that the copyright belongs to EA. The site states it right there. By the way this one I got at Simsvault. I seriously dont understnad why the have been arguing at all.

Quote
A trademark, trade mark, ™ or ®[1] is a distinctive sign of some kind which is used by a business to uniquely identify itself and its products and services to consumers, and to distinguish the business and its products or services from those of other businesses. A trademark is a type of industrial property which is distinct from other forms of intellectual property.

Conventionally, a trademark comprises a name, word, phrase, logo, symbol, design, image, or a combination of these elements. There is also a range of non-conventional trademarks comprising marks which do not fall into these standard categories.


The Trademark, Name of the site and any logos are theirs, the game content is EA's

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Intellectual property laws confer a bundle of exclusive rights in relation to the particular form or manner in which ideas or information are expressed or manifested, and not in relation to the ideas or concepts themselves (see idea-expression divide). It is therefore important to note that the term "intellectual property" denotes the specific legal rights which authors, inventors and other IP holders may hold and exercise, and not the intellectual work itself


They have nothing! THey just need to give it up because EA is not going to turn the rights of their game over to creators. They will shut creators down first. I mean look at the meshes they  have for future stuff packs Cheesy
23  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Interesting post on Sim2.com on: 2006 November 12, 19:45:33
There TOS states the same thing. Now it is just plain English without all the lawyer talk.

Do you think for one minute if this was not true that EA would let Pescado keep going. They have been telling people for forever this. They privately tell those putting up pay meshes that it is ok just dont advertise it. Now, they have just put it in plain English that even a china woman can understand. Nothing against china people mind you
24  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Rose Sims and Paypal on: 2006 November 12, 05:15:16
I agree
25  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Rose Sims and Paypal on: 2006 November 12, 00:57:40
Actually, they dont think they are right either. If they thought for a moment they had a legal right to sell the content the words donation and bandwidth would never even be mentioned. They would all be replaced with the word purchase and business. It would be retailer and customer. There is one site owner that if you say, "I want to buy this set from you" he will respond that he has no sims files for sale and that they are only gifts you receive for donating. There are no purchase buttons out there. They are donator buttons.
26  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Rose Sims and Paypal on: 2006 November 12, 00:33:26
Quote from: "fat_n_ugly"
what am uncofortable with is the sharing of information....i mean do you think they will stop or just keep on doing it thinking they are in their right?


Well, that is going to depend on paypal. If they shut down Rose's account and they should, yes it will stop because the rest will fear losing their accounts. If EA steps in with all the current mess, then that will indeed shut one of us down. If EA would just come and say it like it is than one of us would stop. If EA states the meshes are theirs then we stop. (Well, I would but JM probably would not) If EA states they cant stop us from sharing, then they will stop. Seems quite a simple solution to me. Just need EA to get off the fence and stop playing both sides.
27  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Rose Sims and Paypal on: 2006 November 12, 00:08:45
Quote from: "fat_n_ugly"
i'm getting a little unconfortable with all this....don't you guys think this is getting a little out of hand?


Can you be more specific? Sharing files is one thing, sharing personal information is quite another. Do I think it is out of hand? Yes, I do. Do I think they are going way overboard by putting more value in money than safety? You bet I do. Did it make want to slink away into the night? Hell no, Actually it made me more determined that paysites need to be taken out. I think EA needs to stand up to the plate and do something. They have clearly sat idle for to long. They have allowed this to escalate to a cesspool of paysites and thus the sharing of their content.
28  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Rose Sims and Paypal on: 2006 November 11, 23:44:05
Quote from: "Vaughna"
Quote from: "Lackey"
Thanks so much. Scurvy would you please edit yours as well. I dont mind if you highlight sections of it and I dont mind if you share it in pm's. I just dont want them coming back and saying we are posting his name on a public forum.


I understand.  But I do think it's an issue that should be addressed in our community as a whole.  It is not okay, and it has been going on for way too long.  How do we know how many kids he has hurt or lured just because everyone is too afraid to speak up and tell the truth?


I know alot of people are concerned with him running a site geared towards children. That is why I said you may copy and paste sections and agree to share the actual link in pm's. I just dont want them pointing the finger at us because we have his real name and where he lives posted on a public forum. You cold make a post that just simply states if someone wants to know more to pm you.
29  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Rose Sims and Paypal on: 2006 November 11, 23:36:50
Thanks so much. Scurvy would you please edit yours as well. I dont mind if you highlight sections of it and I dont mind if you share it in pm's. I just dont want them coming back and saying we are posting his name on a public forum.
30  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Rose Sims and Paypal on: 2006 November 11, 23:31:59
Quote from: "Vaughna"
Quote from: "Sherry"


Edit: Think of all the people who donate to MTS2, wouldn't they like to know what kind of risk Delphy is putting them all in, while he takes their money to keep his site free.


Think of all the people who don't know, Delphy, a.k.a. , was arrested in 2001 for Child Pornography.  


I don't understand how he has been allowed to be in a position of power in the TS2 community and in constant chat contact with people's kids?  No one speaks up because everyone is so afraid of being banned, but it's not alright at all.



I am gonna ask you to edit your post and remove the link and his personal name from here. We do not want to sink to their level as providing personal info about other people. Please remove it.
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