Okay, so here's what I attempted to make.  Jogging pants for teen girls.  I couldn't find any that weren't apart of an outfit, so I decided to attempt it on my own and here are the results so far.  Any suggestions would be much appreciated

 

Now do they actually look like jogging pants?  What tweeks can be done to make them better? 

Nope, Nouk, just for those who donated...but there are pics available for those who don't get them

So I wasn't the only one who went    I should complain though, I donated quite awhile ago I never got PMed a link for stuff that I don't want anyways  

Yes SmilingSweetly!  That's the kinda hair I'm talkin' about!  We need Soap Opera Hair!  Not anime or Romance Cover models!  :lol:

Hey Paden, don't hate on the bermuda shorts!  There just need to be more solid variety  

And another thing for normal mens clothing, keep it simple!  No funky looking designs.  Graphics on tees are fine though.  Solids are the best way to go, less matching involved.

My idea for this concept of "manly men"

They can have GQ type of clothing like suits and stuff but tight pants cannot be there for every single outfit.  There has to be the basic essentials of mens clothing: pants (regular waist, low waist and untucked) that are not all skin tight or attached to socks with sandals, shirts (tees, polos, button-ups etc), non-anime"esque" hair).  The option of mix and match is a must for tops and bottoms

Wow Nouk!  It's nice.  It's normal and doesn't look like it belongs in a Pantene commercial.  I'll keep looking for it to be on your site.  BTW, feel free to make more normal hair for guys  

Okay, for some strange and absurd reason (or maybe it was morbid curiousity), I actually watched the entire thing....and there's a huge black square on the runway.  Don't know why it's there but I just kept staring at the square...it was either  that or the fact that each model (as they walked by, mimicking the gait of a camel) did the stupid "Look at my butt" animation, and virtually disappeared at the waist...I'm liking Maxis clothing more and more as I watch Cardrew's "creations"  :oops:

9b8ll, love it!   Can't wait for that to be released!

Why is it so hard to find houses without custom content now a days?  So I downloaded your house Pennynne, looks spacious enough with the basic necessities of life, a decent sized house, a drive way space and space for gardening if necessary.  Feel free to make more like that for me.

My complaint is about the gaps.  If they're binned incorrectly, I can fix that and I do that automatically anyways because even if some creators bin them, the hairs are not in the same family which makes me nuts anyways.  I can't fix the gaps.  I know nothing about meshing and I don't think I have the patience to learn.  And it's actually really starting to bother me when my sim bends over to talk with a child or something and I can see their teeth through the back of their head.

As for the 3 million shades of blond, I can pick and choose what I want.  Take Peggy for example (when I actually used to DL more of her stuff).  Ooh!  4 shades of blonde and only one looks like a natural blonde.  I'll take the natural.  Ooh!  Fire-engine red hair or a more natural orangey shade...too bad I can't recolor, I'll take that orangey one.  Never like mousey brown...so I'll take the chestnut and well, black is black meh!  I'll take that too.  Bin them myself and delete the rest.

I am almost convinced that the people from the TSR forum, don't actually go and look anywhere else for "quality" items.  If they did, then they would know better.

Willing to pass them my way?

She never moved anything but the skintones that very few people had even seen (namely me)

I was right about to download the skintones too when it said that HP had removed them.   But on her journal, she does say she might come back so I'm crossing my fingers!