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The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Re: TSR: In Ur Accounts, Deletin Ur Stuffs!
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on: 2009 March 31, 22:41:24
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Johan- Can you explain why no one was ever notified that their private information such as passwords may have been compromised and if that is not the case, why Thomas or Steve would tell Delphy that it was?
It seems Delphy jumped to conclusions or got the wrong idea. I wasn't in the chat with them so i don't know exactly what was said but no, our users login details were not compromised. Some FA accounts were compromised a while ago, if you remember blaming us for hacking ourselves? This is the incident i think they were talking about. Thanks for telling us that BuggyBooz's and Thomas's user account info like passwords have not been compromized. (?) lol That narrows it down pretty nicely. The one that has 'compromized' your FA's accounts could not have been the same one using user's login details to screw with MTS2. |
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The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Re: TSR: In Ur Accounts, Deletin Ur Stuffs!
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on: 2009 March 31, 22:17:16
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Thanks for clarifying that Anouk, do we know anything else abut this user? For example where it stands in the paysite debate?
I don't want to get into discussions right now, i am trying to collect as much information as i can about this for our own investigations but to answer your questions:
We see A LOT of trouble makers on TSR using this service!
And you can't link such an IP to a specific user as anyone using the service can get that IP.
I'm not 100% sure that you can select a specific IP but if you can you could even use that to make it look like you are atwa for example if atwa were seen as "connected" to that IP.
I get that, but do all of these random annoying people have admin access? Acces to personal info used to break into accounts on other sites, apparently to support TSR in some way? And is it just a coincidence that Atwa really really really loves tsr?  |
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The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Re: TSR: In Ur Accounts, Deletin Ur Stuffs!
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on: 2009 March 31, 21:50:16
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leftywillnot has the same ip Atwa used on Naturalsims. They are from the same service Thomas has bought to hide atwa's ip from staff members on TSR.
Johan:
Aside from Thomas,
- What are the chances that any of the people who buy that service, know anything about the sims 2 community?
- What are the chances that any of the people who buy that service, care about what was posted on Simsecret about TSR?
- What are the chances that any of the people who buy that service, would break into TSR?
- What are the chances that any of the people who buy that service, use the ip's that have been linked to Atwa on a different site than MTS2 and LiveJournal?
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The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Re: TSR: In Ur Accounts, Deletin Ur Stuffs!
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on: 2009 March 31, 21:32:18
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Have any of those FA's been recorded at Simsecret, Modthesims2 and Naturals sims with the same ip's? Have any of those FA's gotten access to a proxy service to hide their real ip? Did they use the IP's identified as Atwa at Naturalsims?
I think it's Atwa, being helped by TSR. look at the info in my last post.
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The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Re: TSR: In Ur Accounts, Deletin Ur Stuffs!
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on: 2009 March 31, 21:20:24
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IP's at the time Buggy's stuff was deleted
buggybooz 70.85.179.186
Hamilton 70.85.179.186
leftywillnot 70.85.197.178
All three used exacty the same browser versions, plugins and settings.
IP's Atwa has used on Natural Sims
same as leftywillnot 70.85.197.178
78.129.197.69
Ip's 'hacker' has used on simsecret
78.129.197.69
83.142.228.139
Atwa is connected to all three cases. She has no access to TSR's userdatabase. Also she has no reason to keep hold of the logins of BuggyBooz fro months on end. However, someone with admin access provided her with
1. the proxy server ip, and
2. the passwords used to get into both accounts
3. the knowledge about the theft
Do we think that Atwa would have the capabilities to read and try out some passwords? - sure
Do we think that Atwa has the knowledge to hack into TSR? - Fat chance.
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The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Re: TSR: In Ur Accounts, Deletin Ur Stuffs!
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on: 2009 March 31, 20:37:29
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TSR admins are really the only ones who have all tools available to them.
- full acces to user accounts - check
- real time knowledge of BuggyBooz's complaints - check
- have been using the same proxy service in the past - check
- knowledge about the community in general, knowing the implications of all this - check
Random script kid? - Nope, does not posess the knowledge of the community, and of the shitstorm this would cause, it's too specific. More importantly, the same random script kid would have needed access to MTS2's featured creator forum to know if BuggyBooz was going to complain about something. They would have had access to TSR blocked for them 3 months ago. Extremely unlikely.
Coconut the hacker? - Not possible, the simsecret hacker used a proxy service ip used by Atwa on Naturalsims
Atwa the hacker? - Possible, but Atwa hasn't had access to user accounts for many months. This means she had help from an admin at TSR. OR hacked simsecret and TSR wich I very seriously doubt, as the hacking wasn't real hacking, but simply trying out if TSR password was being used elsewhere.
TSR admin the hacker? - Possible, have full access, have all tools available, and even suckers to do it for him.
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The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Re: TSR: In Ur Accounts, Deletin Ur Stuffs!
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on: 2009 March 31, 18:53:43
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As TSR you will look a whole lot better as the victim that tried to hide their shame, than the agressor that hacked several sites. But that may be just me.  I'd rather be seen as an irrisponsible loserish fansite that can promise to do better in the future, than a hacker. Don't underestimate puppy dog eyes and pity  Except that as an irresponsible loser-ish fansite that allows personal information to be shared and then gets "hacked" and more personal information is acquired by someone with malicious intent they become someplace that even more people would need to protect themselves against. The idea that they may have hacked someones profile is despicable but may not cause a big hit to their pocketbooks but if they once again cant be trusted with personal information then maybe that would be the angle to exploit to get people either to not get subs or to try to cancel current ones. I mean people can be appalled about the behavior and not act on that but if your passwords and personal information are not safe then that seems like it might spur more action on the part of the "on the fencers" than something that only effects other people. I agree, but I don't know if the less computer savvy people - and that's a huge chunk of the populace - will be worried enough, especially if TSR apolagizes and promises to do better/ take care of it. They could feed them anything. And going into TSR posting that - they can pick and choose what to delete and what not, and all that's left is what they want people to read. I'd just take it to Paypal. |
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The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Re: TSR: In Ur Accounts, Deletin Ur Stuffs!
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on: 2009 March 31, 18:09:49
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As TSR you will look a whole lot better as the victim that tried to hide their shame, than the agressor that hacked several sites. But that may be just me. I'd rather be seen as an irrisponsible loserish fansite that can promise to do better in the future, than a hacker. Don't underestimate puppy dog eyes and pity |
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