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1  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Re: TSR: In Ur Accounts, Deletin Ur Stuffs! on: 2009 April 01, 21:37:32
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Myth: Paysites are illegal
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The Fact: Paysites are not illegal, otherwise EA would have done something to stop them, not encouraged them. This is from the official statement composed by EA Legal (not a forum moderator as the Pirates like to claim), as posted by EA recently:
You know, both sides are being screwed by EA on this. The EULA clearly states that commercial use of their tools is against it. Drea the Dumbass is saying the opposite, and has further said that we can just go ahead and violate the EULA willy-nilly. Neither of her statements would hold up in court. According to current legal documents, paysites = illegal. Yup, EA is muddying the waters. No, their statements have not exonerated you. They are so much fluff. EA is trying to save their own asses and keep both sides happy. They fail. This is their natural state.


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Myth: TSR shares PayPal information
The story: Initially it was claimed that TSR and other Paysites shared subscriber's credit card details between themselves to create bogus accounts and take payments for them without the card owner knowing. When we pointed out that PayPal handles the transaction and the service provider never sees credit card numbers, that part of the accusation got deleted because it was realised for once, that someone making something up didn't actually constitute a fact.

The rest of the accusation came from a screenshot of an internal TSR discussion. It contained around a dozen names and addresses taken from our TSR member database that members had provided on signup. Nothing from PayPal. It was just assumed that's where it came from by someone not knowing that we actually take that information from members who offer it. So, are we allowed to have private discussions as staff? Yes, of course we are! Did we share that information publicly? No, you can thank Coconut for that, for half-heartedly blurring a little bit of data and then posting it for all to see for their own sense of power and satisfaction. This information was obtained unlawfully, without the permission of TSR, and distributed without permission also.
Spreading this as "us" accusing you of sharing Paypal info is back-handed and specifically geared to discredit the pirate side. Bully for you. TSR did not share Paypal info. We know this. A particular FA of TSR who used to have her own site shared Paypal info. TSR only shared the real names and email addresses of members. Yes, in a private forum which you knew had been breached. There was no reason to share this information, whatsoever. It was a breach of privacy. It has been discussed at length here how sharing the real names of a person can lead to getting everything on them. Ya'll are idiots.

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Myth: TSR place trojans in their downloads to gain information

The Story: In the early days of the Pirates and pay content file sharing, we put watermarks on the files at the point of downloading. This simply applied the TSR user ID, IP and time/date to the .package file of the downloader, so that we could take the files from the booty and see which user shared it. This was done server side, our end. It gathered no information about the user once they downloaded that file. This hardly constitutes a Trojan or virus.
Ya'll are the ones who were joking about them being trojans. Yes, they were watermarks. Correct me if I'm wrong, Pescado, but aren't they still being used?

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Myth: TSR attacks other sites and tries to take them down
Fact: The owner of Reflexsims approached Thomas privately about the growing piracy situation, asking for advice on how to deal with it. Thomas' first advice was, quote: "you need to stop allowing them to trash paysites in bigforums such as yours". She tried just this and in return got kicked out of the very forum she started! What happened after this had nothing to do with Thomas nor TSR - the person she gave the forum to a long time ago was the person who pulled the plug on the forum as a courtesy towards the previous owner. To try and blame TSR for this, Coconut faked a photoshopped "forum post" where Thomas seemingly does a countdown for the forum to go down. It's that easy to manipulate people into believing something!
Photoshopping does not exist. I'm quite good at IDing Photoshopping as I've actually taken quite a few graphic design classes. If you're taking your advice from DOT, you're doing it wrong.

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Myth: TSR hacked an account on MTS2 and deleted content

The story: Delphy initially accused Thomas of gaining unauthorized access to an account on MTS2 and deleting content. This was based on 2 IP addresses and screenshots were posted as "conclusive evidence", claiming that they are Thomas. In fact, both these addresses are used by 'Hide my IP' cloaking software and also appear in TSR's member database hundreds of times, over several accounts. An account on TSR used those same IP's the same day on TSR using the same browser details as the screenshots posted by Delphy on MTS2, we know that these are cloaked IP's and are not enough to accuse anyone. After several discussions and cooperation between our sites, Delphy is no longer sure that TSR was involved and has retracted his allegation. We continue to investigate the source of the attacks on both our sites.
This is still under debate. You know it is still under debate as you are in the fucking forum watching the debate go down.

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Myth: TSR's security breach has compromised everyone's account and identity

The Story: This is the newest one, and a direct result from my chat with Delphy. He informed his community that TSR was subject to a security breach early this year. He doesn't know the details and never actually claimed to in his post, but it has been twisted and turned into the "fact" that all TSR member accounts had been compromised and that TSR did nothing to inform or protect them. Its now even suggested that subscribers credit card details are included.

The Fact: The only accounts affected were FA and staff accounts. All FA passwords were immediately changed by us (even Coconut posted about that happening). No user accounts were compromised and therefore no announcement was necessary. We know this because of the information that was obtained. Nobody's credit card details are at risk because, wait for the shock.... we don't get credit card details from our "secure payment service provider" (the clue is in the name).
Then why would buggybooz (sp?) have been affected? You can't use this as an excuse if it wouldn't include her. Excuses = you fail at them.

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Myth: TSR is "in bed" with EA and have some kind of business relationship

Fact: EA does not sponsor or endorse TSR any more than it does many other fansites. We have the same "not endorsed by or affiliated with" disclaimers on our site as any other. We don't pay EA backhanders, we simply talk to each other, and that's the extent of our professional relationship.
Your representatives, including Steve and Thomas, have repeatedly stated that you do have a relationship. So which one is it? You can only have it one way.


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Someone who attacks TSR for being dishonest and being involved in shady activities. Someone who, through unethical and probably illegal means, gains access to areas of our site where they should not have been (and others as it may turn out), who reads people private emails right off their mail server, who posted our private, internal discussions publicly, who create fake so called "screenshots" in Photoshop to spread lies, who turns their own assumptions into "facts" for their own satisfaction… someone who themselves does all the things they accuse TSR of! They even have to hide now behind the Pirates dodgy hosting because they have been kicked out from all the legitimate blog hosts they ever used for breaking their terms of use. A real inspiration! Use your own common sense and decide, is this someone acting in the best interest of the Sims community?
1. Her methodology for getting access to your forums are not known. My personal theory is that you have a leak...a human leak. 
2. She hasn't taken anyone's emails without their consent. Any emails posted were given to her, and permissions were listed from the party involved.
3. Yes, she's posted your "private" discussions publicly. That's kind of the whole point. Forgive me if I'm not crying for you. 
4. Again, not Photoshopped. Learn to spot fake images from someone other than DOT. 
5. She's been kicked off of other servers because several representatives from TSR have been flooding every service with reports. Doi.

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TSR is a professionally managed organisation.
Yours is one of the most unprofessionally run organizations I've ever seen. Johan's actions in the past few days are appalling. If you have questions about your business's practices, you discuss those internally. You don't go to your competitors/enemies to ask for help. You don't basically give people a laundry list of the accusations against you. Oh, you think this exonerates you? Have you ever heard the theory that giving any attention to the concerns of a revolutionary force gives that force street credit? Big backfire, kids.
2  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Re: TSR: In Ur Accounts, Deletin Ur Stuffs! on: 2009 April 01, 21:14:36
Guys, have you learned nothing? I can't screen shot right now. Here is a quote.
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TSR: Accusations, Lies, Bullying?

TSR has been on the receiving end of countless slur campaigns recently.... actually going back quite some time now, since the establishment of the Pirate site and the rise of Coconut. We haven't been very public about our opinion of all this and haven't been running around denying each and every lie because to be frank, it would be fruitless in many cases. But the recent accusation that TSR was responsible for gaining unauthorized access to MTS2 and deleting content is an accusation too far!

So, whether you as a reader believe any of what we are about to say or not, this is our response. If you have no intention of believing it because you are on the Pirate bandwagon then you are wasting your time continuing, nothing we say is likely to change your mind as you will twist it to suit yourself. But if you are actually in two minds, or have the sense to see that these constant attacks on TSR must have a deeper, underpinning issue, then you might take something of value from it. In any case, this is our side of the argument.
Myth: Paysites are illegal

The story: The Pirates want the pay content but they don't want to have to pay for it. It's in their nature. Read their forums, they openly pirate Expansion Packs and they intend to do the same with Sims 3. "I'm going to Arr Sims 3" means they will steal it rather than give EAxis as they call them, any more money. They hide behind an Asian host because they know that what they are doing is wrong and that any Western host would remove them (that used to be a brag on the home page). They hide behind the game EULA which originally stated "non commercial use". This is the game EULA and does not relate to custom content tools which have their own EULA. EA have been quite clear that they have no objection to fansites selling custom content. Many of these sites have been invited to events at EA and are wholeheartedly supported by them.

The Fact: Paysites are not illegal, otherwise EA would have done something to stop them, not encouraged them. This is from the official statement composed by EA Legal (not a forum moderator as the Pirates like to claim), as posted by EA recently:

"...Whether players choose to share their original artistic creations with the community is up to them: some custom content creators design work for a fee; some host their works on sites that organize, store and serve an enormous amount of content for subscribers; some artists request donations; and some artists allow all players to download their creations for free. These artists set their own terms for how they want to share their talents with the community at large. Those terms should be respected by other players."

This is from the company that hold all rights to Sims game code. Does that read that Paysites are illegal to you?

Pay content is about choice, if you want it, and can afford it, then buy it. If you don't want to or can't buy it, go for the free stuff. Piracy is theft. Theft is illegal, selling CC for The Sims games clearly isn't! Anyone with any ability to see sense can work that out for themselves.
Myth: TSR shares PayPal information

The story: Initially it was claimed that TSR and other Paysites shared subscriber's credit card details between themselves to create bogus accounts and take payments for them without the card owner knowing. When we pointed out that PayPal handles the transaction and the service provider never sees credit card numbers, that part of the accusation got deleted because it was realised for once, that someone making something up didn't actually constitute a fact.

The rest of the accusation came from a screenshot of an internal TSR discussion. It contained around a dozen names and addresses taken from our TSR member database that members had provided on signup. Nothing from PayPal. It was just assumed that's where it came from by someone not knowing that we actually take that information from members who offer it. So, are we allowed to have private discussions as staff? Yes, of course we are! Did we share that information publicly? No, you can thank Coconut for that, for half-heartedly blurring a little bit of data and then posting it for all to see for their own sense of power and satisfaction. This information was obtained unlawfully, without the permission of TSR, and distributed without permission also.

The Fact: TSR has never and will never share PayPal information. We don't even use it ourselves; we use our own member database. Further, more of our payments are taken by a Credit Card handler than PayPal.
Myth: TSR place trojans in their downloads to gain information

The Story: In the early days of the Pirates and pay content file sharing, we put watermarks on the files at the point of downloading. This simply applied the TSR user ID, IP and time/date to the .package file of the downloader, so that we could take the files from the booty and see which user shared it. This was done server side, our end. It gathered no information about the user once they downloaded that file. This hardly constitutes a Trojan or virus.

The Fact: TSR, as a professional business, has no desire to add malware to its downloads and takes no part in such activities. The Pirates didn't like that we were on to them so cooked up this story because at the time they didn't know how we were catching them. They hated it even more when they found we used their own shared files against them! Of course they now know, but wont retract their claim because it adds too much value to their smear campaign.
Myth: TSR attacks other sites and tries to take them down

The Story: The latest such case was the take-down of the Reflexsims forum (which later turned into another forum). Apparently, Thomas decided to take down their forum on his own and simply did so by telling them to shut down.

Fact: The owner of Reflexsims approached Thomas privately about the growing piracy situation, asking for advice on how to deal with it. Thomas' first advice was, quote: "you need to stop allowing them to trash paysites in bigforums such as yours". She tried just this and in return got kicked out of the very forum she started! What happened after this had nothing to do with Thomas nor TSR - the person she gave the forum to a long time ago was the person who pulled the plug on the forum as a courtesy towards the previous owner. To try and blame TSR for this, Coconut faked a photoshopped "forum post" where Thomas seemingly does a countdown for the forum to go down. It's that easy to manipulate people into believing something!
Myth: TSR hacked an account on MTS2 and deleted content

The story: Delphy initially accused Thomas of gaining unauthorized access to an account on MTS2 and deleting content. This was based on 2 IP addresses and screenshots were posted as "conclusive evidence", claiming that they are Thomas. In fact, both these addresses are used by 'Hide my IP' cloaking software and also appear in TSR's member database hundreds of times, over several accounts. An account on TSR used those same IP's the same day on TSR using the same browser details as the screenshots posted by Delphy on MTS2, we know that these are cloaked IP's and are not enough to accuse anyone. After several discussions and cooperation between our sites, Delphy is no longer sure that TSR was involved and has retracted his allegation. We continue to investigate the source of the attacks on both our sites.

The Fact: TSR had nothing to do with content being deleted from MTS2. We have had someone gain access to FA accounts and delete their content several times too (fruitless, as we just restore them from backups). We didn't go accusing anyone of it even though we have a pretty good idea who is behind it. We don't play offensively, we aren't out to damage the Sims community, we try and keep ourselves to ourselves and act professionally! We will continue to work with MTS2 to resolve this if we can.
Myth: TSR's security breach has compromised everyone's account and identity

The Story: This is the newest one, and a direct result from my chat with Delphy. He informed his community that TSR was subject to a security breach early this year. He doesn't know the details and never actually claimed to in his post, but it has been twisted and turned into the "fact" that all TSR member accounts had been compromised and that TSR did nothing to inform or protect them. Its now even suggested that subscribers credit card details are included.

The Fact: The only accounts affected were FA and staff accounts. All FA passwords were immediately changed by us (even Coconut posted about that happening). No user accounts were compromised and therefore no announcement was necessary. We know this because of the information that was obtained. Nobody's credit card details are at risk because, wait for the shock.... we don't get credit card details from our "secure payment service provider" (the clue is in the name).
Myth: TSR is "in bed" with EA and have some kind of business relationship

The story: TSR has been invited to all of the fansite events at EA in Redwood Shores and on the odd occasion, to other events and meetings too. We have a great working relationship with EA, as do all the other sites that regularly get invited to these events, TSR is not the only one! I can't explain why we get along so well, but I can guess that it's because for the past 9+ years we have encouraged and supported the Sims community to grow, we have supported EA in what they do as any fansite does, and we act professionally in what we do. We don't allow bashing in our forums, we don't have sick game hacks in our databases and we are enthusiastic about the game and custom content. Like all those other sites that get invited back, we are a fansite supporting The Sims games. That's all.

Fact: EA does not sponsor or endorse TSR any more than it does many other fansites. We have the same "not endorsed by or affiliated with" disclaimers on our site as any other. We don't pay EA backhanders, we simply talk to each other, and that's the extent of our professional relationship.
What about the rest of the rumours circulating?

There are other accusations of course which are not covered here. That doesn't mean to say that they are true or that we have no response, we just find it absurd that we have to spend our time on such stupid, ridiculous lies that quite frankly, anyone with any common sense should be able to see are unfounded. In most cases, TSR have neither the influence or motivation to do what we are accused of and that includes closing down other sites forums. Really.. It's pathetic.
So what about this "coconut"?

Someone who attacks TSR for being dishonest and being involved in shady activities. Someone who, through unethical and probably illegal means, gains access to areas of our site where they should not have been (and others as it may turn out), who reads people private emails right off their mail server, who posted our private, internal discussions publicly, who create fake so called "screenshots" in Photoshop to spread lies, who turns their own assumptions into "facts" for their own satisfaction… someone who themselves does all the things they accuse TSR of! They even have to hide now behind the Pirates dodgy hosting because they have been kicked out from all the legitimate blog hosts they ever used for breaking their terms of use. A real inspiration! Use your own common sense and decide, is this someone acting in the best interest of the Sims community?

If our information is correct we actually know who she is, and given that she once wanted desperately to be an FA at TSR but didn't get it, we think it explains quite a lot about her bitterness towards us, don't you?

TSR is a professionally managed organisation. It has been owned and managed by the same staff for almost 10 years. We have been around longer than any other Sims site and we have seen it all in this community. And now, enough is enough. We will defend ourselves against this barrage of attacks, abuse and insults.

We will also continue to do what we do. We won't be beaten down by the bully element in this community who brag about their achievements of having Sims sites closed down with their accumulative actions. Bullies are the lowest of the low, and we don't think they have a place in a Sims game playing community! We do, and we aren't going anywhere!
I'm going to do a double-post in a second. My apologies, but this is screaming for a pick-apart.
3  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Re: Your Prettiest Freesite Creation Find on: 2008 December 18, 17:45:23
I have been in love with macarossi's irises for forever now. I nearly *ahem* squeed myself silly when I saw that nymphy made recolors! It's funny to get so excited about some recolors of a nearly insignificant item, but I really love that flower mesh.
I'd nominate everything Macarossi. No idea how I didn't discover them until just six months ago. His/her build items are ingenius. I especially like the decorative roof edgings.
4  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Re: Streetchickers donation files on: 2008 December 18, 17:41:19
But I never said it was lethal, just it was bad for you.  Thing is, I've reached the conclusion in 40-something...I mean 36 years that artificial foods are bad for me, in general.  Stevia has been told to me by many nutritionists to either lower blood sugar, or at least not raise it - its also more environmentally friendly and -tastes- better.

I don't think stevia tastes better, but to each their own. I always try to eat whole, unprocessed foods as much as possible. Frankly, sugar is poison to me because I'm hypoglycemic...it makes me pass out. Hypoglycemia is a precursor to Diabetes. If I eat anything that contains sugar or too many carbohydrates (which metabolize as sugar in the body) I'm setting up my system to crash and burn. Most of what I eat isn't sweet, artificially or naturally, so the scant amount of sweetener I ingest now I'm not too worried about.
I have found a better solution to this: keep eating sweets. Mainline them. Sure, you'll develop diabetes earlier and your toes will fall off, but you'll have more fun.

Seriously, though, I'm hypoglycemic, as are about half of my cousins. I used to have major issues with it back in high school. Sugars do not make me pass out. I try to control how many sweets that I have only because I would eat nothing but sweets if left to my own devices. I've found that hypoglycemia is easy to control as long as I'm careful to get plenty of protein (already a concern for my partial-vegetarianism) and deal with my stress. Stress causes my blood sugar to plummet. An egg in the morning and I'm energized and feeling balanced for the whole day.

I'm not familiar with Stevia. We have Splenda, which is coming into question. I hate it. It's absolutely disgusting and has an awful edge to it to me, while others say it tastes just like sugar. Now, I prefer Sweet & Low, but I do use sugar when baking and with coffee at home. It does not taste like sugar.
5  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Re: TSR Sharing your infomation! on: 2008 December 16, 22:19:17
Ah, Vundo. *waxes nostalgic* It's the malware that keeps on giving. Just when you think it's gone from the Internet, it's not.
6  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Re: TSR Sharing your infomation! on: 2008 December 11, 21:30:04
I've long ago come to terms with the fact that if EA can find a way to piss off their fanbase, they will find it and use it.
7  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Re: TSR Sharing your infomation! on: 2008 December 09, 21:54:59
LOOSE refers to his ethics and morals.
...or his bowels.
8  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Re: TSR Sharing your infomation! on: 2008 December 08, 21:57:37
Yeah i'm saying it's out of context even if it's the full post. Things posted in private among friends is a whole other context than the coconut blog no matter how you twist it.
In private among friends you can say things without being serious and your friends would know that.
Fucking read my post, dumbass. Other than pointing out that a name can be incredibly individual, I also stated that you can never fully trust those in your employ to keep crap under wraps. This is glaringly obvious in this case, as either Coconut or Coconut's source (depending on her position) has leaked the info. Duh. Not private. Nothing on the internet is private.
9  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Re: TSR Sharing your infomation! on: 2008 December 08, 05:43:31
Identity theft, based on a name? How unique is a name?
And you think the TSR FA's would attempt such a thing?  Roll Eyes

As was discussed before, potentially very. I am the only person on the globe with my name. Not even First-Middle-Last unique, simple First-Last unique.

The point is that you can't know. We had an employee at my business four years ago who stole credit card numbers from students. We had done a background check before on them and it came up clean. Either they had never done this sort of thing before, or something just snapped. At a former job, an employee quit and then used information they had gained from our database to steal another employee's identity.

The safest thing is to not share information. Afterall, what good could actually be accomplished by posting someone's address and personal phone number? None. So why do it?
10  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Re: Insim under new management! on: 2008 December 06, 01:32:16
Skye. This is the second time you've posted all in blue. Stop it. It's annoying. You are not a special snowflake. You can use black just like the rest of us.


EDIT: You do not deserve my commas. I am only giving you periods.
11  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Re: TSR Sharing your infomation! on: 2008 December 05, 18:22:09
Not everyone looks up names and address for people who wrong them.  From what I read ulkrhsn thought the only way to deal with this was to moan at Thomas.  After BG posted all jassims details her thoughts then went to abusive phonecalls.  Wonder how many people in that forum thought they may defend their fellow FA's honour by doing exactly the same.
And that's just the sort of thing that comes from posting someone's private info publicly (and sorry, FA forums are public as you can't control where the info goes). How much easier is it for someone to cross the line and bother someone in meatspace after the information was handed to them on a platter in virtualspace?
12  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Re: Insim under new management! on: 2008 December 04, 01:21:33
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Yeah, I can get to some threads, but the Viva La Revolution one comes up data base error.  He cannot even delete threads correctly. 

That's what I'm getting, too. It's the same thing for the "Sim Honeys" section due to my "Insim Girl" upload, the custom objects and recolors section, and I can't reply to Paden's epic thread.
Haha! I got in. It only took three hours. I've been trying to recheck the thread for a good three more.
13  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Re: Insim under new management! on: 2008 December 03, 05:52:22
I already use the debugger to get them up to six slots, I just like having the extra vacation perk slot be permanent as well, since vacations get boring after the second or third time.
Wha...seven slots? Why do you need all those want slots? Are you making your sims overly happy? They should suffer like the pixellated losers they are. Actually, I've decided my sims have been much too happy lately. Someone gets to play Ghetto Fabulous soon. Unfortunately, it really only works with girls and my baby button has been boy-heavy.

Malachite? WTF? Are they not done adding oceans yet? I miss navigating, but I can't stand the demographic anymore.
14  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Re: Insim under new management! on: 2008 December 03, 01:54:10
I don't know how the game will be without Inseminator.
Prolly just like it is now. Insimenator. (Sorry, I couldn't resist).

I've played the game since release without Insim. I actually only got SimBlender very recently, and rarely use it. Anything it does can be done with debug mode, and I'd always used debug in the past. My sims play just fine...and if I get EP 19 out tonight, I'll be able to see them again.

*checks Beige status*
Pescado, we have got to get you some better music. I was with you on the overture. It has its place. But fiddles? Really?
15  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Re: Insim under new management! on: 2008 December 02, 19:07:50
You can say what you want Pescado, but your actions says you care. Thank you for your time and effort invested in this salvaging operation, you're a trustworthy man! I'm not going to say anything nicer, you might resent that.
Shhhh. You'll make Hulk angry. He only cares for butthurt. That's the party line.

Proving, once more, that he didn't read the fricking EULA before coughing up the cash. K&E really found a good target for their con.

I am still not entirely sure Walt is not K or E or a friend of theirs.  In which case it is still US who are being conned.  I say we don't engage with this guy/woman at all.  Just delete all the stuff and leave.
I am not saying we should feel sorry for him, or anything like that. Someone who was conned was conned by themselves first, when they didn't take a moment to look into the offer. Eh, I'm not speaking well. Basically: He's a greedy dumbass. He got what he deserved. We are not fooled.
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