Immortelle, I think Darqstar was snipping at people who self diagnose..not those who actually do have those disorders or issues. I hope so at least.

And I could not even imagine a MATYan saying they are 'well liked'. And there are few cross overs between the two forums. Just does not fit, so yea I call stirring also.

TSR have not and will not post 'their side of the story'. They will post something which advantages them the most, which means it will often not contain all the facts or all elements. Posting their side will mean telling the truth on matters they do not want to discuss, and just will not happen. Too many questions for them to answer.

It is always best to look and read all you can with matters, but there are some who will not publically say their version - unless they manipulate that version and leave bits out of it.

That statementwotsit was a lame attempt to annoy us and derail the discussion. From reading around other sites, its not fooled anyone and no one is convinced by it.

There has been no answers to question we were asking earlier..which is not much of a surprise, but to timewarp a bit and copy questions posted earlier, as food for thought 

Changing Buggy's policy: What would a hacker gain from this and why would they even have an interest in changing her policy? Why 'yes to paysites and anything you want' if you were a mere hacker and not aware of the paysite issues and Buggys recent problem with a paysite? Means that they were knowledgeable of the community and of the issue, meaning if they are deep in the sims community or were informed by someone who is. Either way, they would have known peple would notice this, so wanted the attention and wanted the questions...

Time frame: If a hacker had access to that amount of information, why use it over 3 months after gaining it? Why use it only on two accounts (Buggy, and Hamilthomas)?

Subscriber accounts: Why were only these accounts affected? Why were they so easy to breach? Does that mean all admin staff have access to subscriber account passwords, and other details? Why were subscribers not told that their details may have been yoinked? Why have they still not been told?

FA accounts: Why have they changed the story to only FA accounts being effected? Why was Buggy's password yoinked then? Why was (as it appears to be) Sinthe's password yoinked then?

Also, has anyone posted this recent Delphy post from S2C?


So there is obviously more drama to this then first meets the eye - and there is quite a lot of drama to begin with. Delphy was very sure in his opinion on this initially, and must have taken this new stance from evidence he has since seen, so I hope he enlightens the rest of us as to what is going on. Looks complicated.

I do not believe that is the 'real' Johan, and if it was, then..fail. All he did was ask questions to us get us to question what we thought about it, and try to convince us to be all squishy about the situation. He gave no details of the event, and claimed he did not know - being a major staff member at TSR, he will damn know. Just looks to me like a poor attempt to rattle up the good discussion we were having here.

Scurvy, the watermark marks who downloaded that item, and the item can be an image or file. It can contain info like date, time and user.

  Huh. New breed of troll?

They will either delete the thread and ban you.. or post in response saying about apparent hacker, lock the thread and leave that for the members at TSR to read, to show how fuzzy TSR is and what nasty accusations are being spread. Remember the threads at TSR where an admin/mod says the EULA has changed, lock the thread, and the members there have read it and believed it? Thats what I mean and if I understand Nouk right, then by 'support' she means that also. If not, Nouk explain what you are talking about 

Also, adding to the list of WTF questions, why would a hacker change Buggy's policy?  What would a hacker, who is not connected to TSR or the gaming community, gain from that and why would they even have an interest in changing her policy? Why 'yes to paysites and anything you want' if you were a mere hacker and not aware of the paysite issues and Buggys recent problem with a paysite?

Buggy may be or have been a subscriber at some point. Furthermore, did this zomgbreach affect current subscribers or all previous ones as well? The scale of apparent hack has been left out. If it did affect past and present subscribers, then again why was Buggy and Hamilthomas only affected like this. 

Unless I've missed something (if so, please give a link!), they've not accused Coconut..yet. They've not given any details to their suspicions of said apparent hacking third party.

They've also not even said that this third party was not connected to TSR in any way or means. Atwa, as a random example, is no longer (publically) TSR staff and so does not represent them, so she would be someone who they could label as a 'third party'.


If a hacker had access to that amount of information, why use it over 3 months after gaining it? Why use it only on two accounts (Buggy, and Hamilthomas)?


Firstly, 'may'. They are not sure what was apparently breached? That shows their securtiy, and knowledge of it, is dire.

Secondly, the fact that it affected subscriber accounts. Why were only these accounts affected? Why were they so easy to breach? Does that mean all admin staff have access to subscriber account passwords, and other details? Why were subscribers not told that their details may have been yoinked? Again, shows that subscriber info is far from safe with TSR.

Yes, Delphy is simply asking questions to get details before reaching a solid conclusion, personally agree with that as it is better to know all details.

Also, I fully expected TSR to 'reveal' something like this, where they would show a 'you are wrong, pity us because xyz'..and they've gone for the old hacking reason. I am entirely unconvinced by this reason, and presume this is *another* of their anti free attempts - remember that they have planned and are attacking free/anti pay sites/creators.

I am amazed and astounded 

Here is hoping they not only lose subscribers over this, but also some creators, as that is what will hurt the people who did this (Thomas and the staff who organised it). How can you justify being at a site which does stuff like this? 

I am not surprised at the act..but almost surprised that he did not make an attempt to hide the IP, as they usually use proxies in their dark deeds.

Also, fyi as I did not see it posted yet, this has been posted at SimWank. They have links to where people are talking about this, and have spread the word at thesims2LJcommunity (which gets quite a lot of visitors, from what I gather). This certainly needs to be posted at sites..its disgusting and pathetic. The more that know, the better.

Simplymafia, that sounds like a virus to have an effect as strong as that. Are you sure that it was the sims24ever file? We've not had any mention of this before..mm we'll look into it, thanks

Yes and I agree with you