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The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Re: TSR: IN UR COMPUTER, VIRUSIN' UR FILES!
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on: 2009 October 06, 15:10:14
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Immortelle I agree, wholeheartedly, it amuses me that this has brought myself and another lurker out of hiding as it were, I wonder how many more are rolling their eyes at this thread behind computer screens as we speak.
PMBD isn't meant to be happyfuntimes, its supposed to be a pain in the ass to everyone who thinks giving money to people doing something illegal is perfectly ok. If someone gets their feelings hurt along the way, oh well, to be disgustingly non-politically correct here, fighting on the net is the same as running in the special olympics, even if you win, you've still got no legs. Its not like the threats here could ever materialise into something more, no one can give someone cancer through their voodoo powers of evil super thought waves oO.
The crux of the issue is, whatever is said here, however foul mouthed or annoying or even offensive, no one here engages in 'hacking' and deleting content on peoples accounts, or deals with confidential information in as questionable a manner as some paysites *coughTSRcough*, and no matter what is said, people here are impotent and unquestionably unwilling to harm anything but paysite profits. Whether or not how people here express themselves is coloured with the appropriate level of civility is concerned, as I have stated before, is largely irrelevant. This site is something I and many others reached only after discovering most of the CC world for themselves, with forum and paysite experience. This place isn't designed to be a TSR, Peggy or Rose alternative, it is here to undermine them, anyone can type a quick search into google and pull up as many sites as they need to with free content. If advertising free sites is a concern it is simple enough to provide a clear and noticeable link to a growing list of sites, it really shouldn't be a debate over who, what, when, where, and why, the solution is simple if the problem is site promotion, promote the sites. If people are being too aggressive for the forum then they should be more actively policed, but as I have said before, if the tone of the forum changes too much it will only serve to alienate many people who have both been here for a while but chose not to speak and people who are active members who feel that a fake friendly front is something they don't want to be involved with.
In sum, any help that can be given to free sites by way of promotion would be a positive change to the site, BUT, changing the way in which members communicate with each other would have an extremely negative effect on both lurkers and members alike.
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The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Re: TSR: IN UR COMPUTER, VIRUSIN' UR FILES!
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on: 2009 October 05, 15:34:11
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You destroy paysites by bitch slapping the paysite people, by making sure evidence of illegal actions makes it into the right hands, by promoting the free community to people who need to hear about the great free shit Like the 12's that sub to paysites
Sims Secrets does not foster a healthy environment for the community and is simply a forum for community members to bitch slap each other in a dishonest manner- both for pay and free community members. Sweeping shit under the carpet and hiding it does nothing and only adds to the problem- rather than solving it, and it is exactly the sort of paysite tactic that should not be fostered in the free community.
Agreed. However, the anit-paysite message, as it were, is not only carried by PMBD, there are other forums, and sites which encourage filesharing and offer pay items for free. When I was new to the sims game (I came in about a year after sims2 was released, ahhh the good old days) I had no idea there was such a thing as custom content for the game. When I did slowly become aware of it the site I first came to was not TSR it was MTS. What needs to happen is that the 12s toddle off to forums like simscave, MTS, and MTS3 where the bright friendly face of free CC is shown, I always found MTS to be a bright, engaging, and easy to use site, that was on the first google search page when you put in 'sims custom content'. All it takes is scrolling below TSR and having look at what else is available. What shouldn't happen is that this place, the grimy, argumentative, no bullshit, anti paysite hard-line forum gets diluted into something more about file sharing than about the drama TSR people constantly stir up and the illegality of selling sims items. This isn't the face most people see when coming into the community for the first time, this is the place people should end up after they have some experience, both with forums (and reading the FAQ, seriously, how difficult is that? oO) and custom content. People coming here asking questions like 'duuuuh how do i put this supah kewl bed in muh gamezor?' are obviously in the wrong place, and to be honest, they will have been through other sites and forums to find this one in the first place, where their questions would probably have received a better reception.
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The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Re: TSR: IN UR COMPUTER, VIRUSIN' UR FILES!
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on: 2009 October 05, 01:53:29
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Being pretty new to this site I figured I may as well give my 2 cents worth on the issue at hand. I'm a lurker, I tend to show up as a 'guest' on a few forum sites and only pop up as a member if, for one the site doesn't seem to be run by total asshats, and for two the people posting seem to be genuine.
I don't care too much for whatever seems to be going on on the other forum, anon posts are pointless attempts to shit-stir and so they are to be ignored 99.9% of the time, unless they are helpful and/or vaguely sensible, though the one in question seems to be a member of the overwhelming majority. Compared to sites like MATY this forum is much calmer and much more open, where people with strong views come together there are bound to be disagreements but members are all here for the same reason. Paysites are pointless, people are wasting good money on tat, and the action of selling these things is fundamentally illegal. There are forums that encourage the sharing of paysite files, of hard to find items e.t.c, a good example would be simscave, polite, non-invasive, and undermining paysites everywhere with their file sharing. I suggest if anyone does not like the way things are done here they can always hop over to one of the 'PMBD-lite' forums and try their luck there, though I don't wish to be offhand about anyone's concerns, in my experience at least, they don't seem well founded.
*slopes off to lurk some more*
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