Did I say, that now we know that at least this version is clean, we're suppose to rest on a pillow called "victory"? In no way, precisely, because of the argument you put, that now since they have the public benefit of the doubt about that dumb tool - from some in the community, but surely not from us - we need to keep an eye on those bastards double. Observe and try to prevent, the Big Pirate Brother is watching. Never forget, never forgive - that's one of the mottos of this forum. I'd add a second part to it, making it: Never forget, never forgive and observe, so they can't even take a crap without us knowing about it. After all, good recon is 50% of the success of a mission.


Nowhere I'm afraid, unless they have some evidence about the hacking and make a complaint to the authorities - then there exists a chance for some recompensation. There really is no other bloody way. Unless they just want revenge and have the knowledge and abilities to excecute it, but those type of people usually have their machines well enough protected, to not be hurt by any shit ThomA$$ and co. are capable of slapping together in their cellar. The crappines of life in full glory. There pretty much is no justice unless you go get it yourself.

PS: Paden, you think I'm not calling bullshit? I'd say it's even the 3rd diarrhea of a bull in one day. All of this is one, stinky, bloody crap-cake. It's good to know however, that for now, FOR NOW, a few souls are safe. On the other hand however, maybe if half the communities machines got shitted because of crap put into that tool, then maybe TSR's ass would finally get fried. However, how much I hate those motherfuckers and with sadistic pleasure would watch them going down, it would be a damn pity, if so many more people - innocent people - would have to pay for it. The victim's list is far too long already.

Ok, here's my two cents into this debate.

I agree on a 100% with Paden on the term, that those bloody shits at TSR don't deserve help in anything, more to it, we should've thrown logs under their legs in the development-run of the tool. Modders of the free community said they didn't really bring anything in exchange, just pretty much sucked out info. I really won't bloody cry, if one day they happen to cross some experienced hacker with a short fused temper, that will change their whole shitty money-cow into a pile of dust. I may not approve the practice, but I really won't bloody cry in their case.

However, there is a "but" in this. The only reason I don't critisize the PRISM people for doing something for the development of that tool, is because that way someone was actually supervising TSR from putting loads of shit, malware, spyware, viruses and whatnot into it. Of course, the ones that stand on TSR's side, while being absolutely aware of their practices, deserve to get burned - you might call that lowering to their level, however, I would simply call it life's justice. Unfortunately, along with them, a lot of innocent people could get burned. People fresh in The Sims community, unnaware of TSR's dealings, people that just bought the game, because they saw an ad on TV and they liked it and saw a link to TSR on EA's site and went there. What did they do to deserve being infected with malicious shit? Be trusting of a major game developing company? Especially that not all companies treat a customer the way EA does? And those people really don't follow all the twists in the story, they're just gamers, playing for casual fun. That doesn't make you deserve getting burned. And for the sake of those unnaware of the situation people, I'm glad someone kept an eye on TSR while making that tool. Not nessecarily that they helped them, but that they kept an eye on them from putting malicious shit in it.

Maybe I'm stupid and this is off topic, but could someone please explain to me, why do people still choose Mac machines, while they know, that in many areas, specific programs for their platform either don't exist either their level barely gets through beta-testing, they're glitchy, awkward and whatever HeyBubbe described them as. It's not only The Sims and tools for them, but many other programs from different categories. So please, humor me, and tell me why people buy Macs, while they can have a good, old, PC running on Billy Gates' Windows, which can be a pain is the ass at times, bu on which 99,999% of stuff works. In what way are they better? Because from a person's that ain't an informatic view, it's just like willing putting a ball and a chain on your leg, that closes some horizons.

True, SoggyFox, but you see, The Pirate Bay case was all about copyright and that's an absolutely different story than cybercrimes. Cybercrimes aren't a pay-to-sue offence, they're criminal, they get pursued by simply being done. Federal authorities take care of it, you don't have to pay a cent. You weren't be sueing them through a lawyer, the charges after having sufficient evidence gathered, would be pressed by a prosecutor.

So maybe it's finally time, to take all the trash we have gathered on TSR from our safes and use it? Doesn't cost anything and the effects might bring so much joy...

Now that is a superb idea, Paden. Mother Russia is full of those, thanks to uncles Stalin, Chrushchow and Brezniew 

Nah, we don't like to waste booz on enemies, we just leave them in the snowdrift. It's even more cruel, because they can feel they're freezing alive.  We used that tactic both with Napoleon and Hitler. Since it worked so fine, I wouldn't mind using it with Thomass and Peggy, but wouldn't that be on the other hand too much a promotion to put them in line with the before mentioned? They don't really deserve that type of iconic company 

Another bloody payshit. They've recently started popping up like mushrooms after rain, we should find some toxic waste to pour into the ground to stop them.

Well, Shanow, most of the site is written in English, so maybe the he/she/it speaks English at least a bit?

*takes rum from Paden* Spasiba. I suppose the living up to the name is partly caused by the Russian blood in me. TSR did a lot to piss me off - and not only me, it's not like it's a private thirst for blood - and you know how the old saying goes, with Russians there's no "say I'm sorry", we just blow the offender to kingdom come 

Which makes us return to a subject we moved not long ago here, Snarky. Why the hell don't we gather up all the evidence we have here, wrap them in a nice package with a dotty-pink bow and send them over to the FBI, the Interpol, the what-not. Cybercrimes are considered to be a serious legal offence nowadays. If an investigation got held and found something, or simply proved that our evidence ain't false, Thomass could really get bitten in that greedy, slimy ass of his.

Simovitch, your chain of reasoning made me thinking. It ain't a ho. It's a french, tranny, Silent Hill nurse ho!  - anyone think of the "beautiful" faces TSR makes for sims and tell me I'm wrong on the SH part.

I absolutely agree, I never had much to do with hosting, but a close friend of mine does and has a couple of his own webpages. A year-long cost for a site is really small nowadays, especially if you combine it with storing download files on mediafire, megaupload, rapidshare, or whatever else rocks your boat. It makes it almost impossible to think, that a person who can afford an internet connection, a computer, TS3, TS2 (or both), plus licences for tools needed to create meshes, photoshop which isn't cheap, and what not else, can't afford to host a site using methods mentioned above. Last I remember, my friend told me, that the cost is somewhere around 80 pounds (sorry for no symbol, I don't live in Britain, and for hell can't find the symbol on my oh so, eastern european keyboard). 80 pounds a year? I spend more than the equal amount in my currency (after currency exchange, of course) a month on cigarettes.

Thanks, Paden Though that name was more paying homage to my dead cat, whose name was Lord Vader, than the original character itself. I damn miss that cat, he was 15 years and 5 days old. The worst was that he was still strong and full of life, he just lost a battle with kidney cancer. I'm sure he would've been a great pirate too, one look from that demonic fur ball and Thomass would've dropped dead. Seriously, L.V. was capable of throwing such glares abd stares at times, that I couldn't help think he was some next edition of the antichrist  Sorry for getting sulky, can't help it when I think of him.


Another example of TSR related stupidity. They think they're advertising themselves, when all they're doing, is scaring away every single thinking being that knows how crappy their tool is, both tool-wise and product-wise.

You weren't stupid, Dr House, people do change. Unfortunately not everyone "sees the light" though. We can only hope other will change and the ones that don't, we'll continue mixing with mud and shit. After all, wouldn't a paysite-free world be a boring Utopia for us pirates? Something tells me we're kinda like chimps, we need at leats a couple of people to fling poo at, gives us an extra hobby  

Oh for fucks sake, couldn't they just leave Jackson alone? Even if he did all that shit with the skin bleaching and it wasn't a disease, he still doesn't deserve to be offended in a way TSR does it, in life or death. Quite frankly, I can't think of anyone who does. Except maybe Hitler and Osama Bin Laden.

Hmmm, maybe that's an idea. Convince a dumb TSR sheep to make Bin Laden and maybe even Muhammed, then nicely send the links to those to Bin Laden. And then wait a moment and TSR will be no more...

A no one does anything about it, except teaching how to conveniety disguise everything under a mask of political correctness.