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The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Echo's interpretation of the EULA
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on: 2007 July 05, 22:40:12
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EA links to many sites which function purely as pay sites, and this could be seen as tacit approval of these sites and their content. :lol: they also allow a -load of paysite objects on the exchange as well, what about that? |
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The Pirate Ship / ARR! / I read about the copyright with EA and Paysites
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on: 2007 June 30, 00:03:38
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 It's not so much the objects, but the file format ( Made by Ea games ) that you put them in. The meshes, and the textures are yours
( provided that you made them ) but a lot of coding goes in that package file to make it actually work,
I prefer comparing it with the wma format. When you write & sing a song and convert it into the wma-format you still have the copyright on it - not microsoft or someone else :wink: Don't matter what any eula says. Well, all I say is based on german laws - can't say how it is handled in other countrys. @Marhis Sorry, I really could not understand what you meant :oops:
To the song, yes. With that, I completely agree. But not to the actual wma format.
Lets say I was to create a music player, and few completely new music formats including on called .putt
I state in my eula that you cannot use any file format that I made for profit. If you were to create a song and saved it as a .putt file, you wouldn't be able to sell the song. the song is yours, but the file format is not. if you were to create your own formant, or find one that allows you sell, then have at it. but as long as it's in the format .putt, which I made, my eula and copyrights still apply
Another way I can put it is I have an empty vase.
I'll tell you what, you can have my vase, so long as you don't sell it. you can fill it with gold or water or whatever you need to fill it with. whatever is inside the vase is yours. but the vase self isn't. That's mine. and as long as your using my vase, you can't sell it.
even if you were to add to the vase or paint it or anything like that, you still cannot sell my vase, as selling the vase would be a breach of contract, and the contract is what allows you to use my vase is the first place :wink: |
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The Pirate Ship / ARR! / I read about the copyright with EA and Paysites
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on: 2007 June 29, 20:17:06
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Not everyone here thinks that creators' wishes should be ignored.
In the last weeks I have the feeling, that more and more people are thinkin it. Thats why I asked EA about the copyright.
( I think most of us don't what the hell you do :lol: so long as you keep it free )
I think most of us are tired of the crap we have been through or put up with from quite a few of paysites
And I'm even pretty sure a small few of us don't even believe that all paysites are evil |
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The Pirate Ship / ARR! / I read about the copyright with EA and Paysites
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on: 2007 June 29, 19:50:46
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Anyway if that is the case, then wouldn't your eula not be binding if they bought something as well?
In germany (and most parts of europe) the eula is not binding, because I can not read it, before I buy the Software (thats why it can be binding, when I buy software online).  That makes alot more sense ( :lol: Did I mention my translator sucks? )
In that case, Does this apply to only when you can't find a eula at all?
( No website or flyer or word of mouth even. nothing. zilp. zitch. nada. )
or you can find a enla at your leisure? ( As in a poster with the eula on it next to the software )
I need to say, that the fact that the eula does not mean that the software would be completely free to use/change. It only means that german laws count - not what EA says.
:?: I can't quite understand what you mean 
You said that you know of one site that was offering meshes made by you without your permission. but if she/he bought something, wouldn't that give them the green light to do so?[/size]
See above :wink: But because it's the booty offering meshes made by me, theres no way to discuss that here in a normal way I think :wink:
I think I need to say again: I'm not pro and not against paysites. Theres a lot paysites out there which are really 'evil' (don't have a better word now). But I am against the 'everything belongs to EA, so we can share everything like we want'.
It's not so much the objects, but the file format ( Made by Ea games ) that you put them in. The meshes, and the textures are yours
( provided that you made them ) but a lot of coding goes in that package file to make it actually work,
Think of it this way
If I have a computer, And I create a theme for it
( the desktop, the folder thumbnails, a custom cursor that sort of thing )
Yes, the theme is mine. however, I cannot claim the whole computer as mine, nor sell it as such.
If I didn't create the coding from the ground up that lets me make themes in the first place, or anything like that
then how can I claim that the computer is completely mine, and that I have the right do what ever I want with, against enla ( at lease in my country ) of the people that did do all the coding?
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The Pirate Ship / ARR! / I read about the copyright with EA and Paysites
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on: 2007 June 29, 18:31:53
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from what I understand, in the German-European ENLA is some times not binding, becuse of something about because you bought the game
( :roll: my Translater sucks )
Anyway if that is the case, then wouldn't your eula not be binding if they bought something as well?
You said that you know of one site that was offering meshes made by you without your permission. but if she/he bought something, wouldn't that give them the green light to do so?
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