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She's got her own site (asfaik) It's in her sig at MTS2. I check there periodically. Her houses really are beautiful. I've found them unwieldy for my own play style however and had to drastically change many things, so now I just love to look at them for ideas for my own houses

I don't know where this exnem's site is though, so maybe she's there too.

Well I really don't know what caused delphy to get so pissy there.

The fact is PMBD is THE reason that the sims community is now starting to talk about free vs paysites OPENLY. I've talked with many friends in private for years but we've always been afraid to be ostracized from the community or banned by sites to talk about our feelings about it openly.

Because of PMBD, the community itself is getting braver and refusing to allow the paysite overlords to continue to scare people into keeping quiet. And if MTS2 is doing its part to keep this on the down low, that's wrong too. Hey, you can do whatever you want. But we can also come here and criticize. That's the way it works.

I don't really care about sigs and such. But its really hard to educate a community when you don't have access to educate at places where the community congregates.

Not true, and I'll tell you why. Prior to having an alternative to GET the files, people were afraid to come out on the issue because of things that DID then happen. Paypal information being shared and people being banned. Now it doesn't matter so much. If you get banned from Rose or Peggy, big deal. You can just get the files here now anyway. Before it was extortive (if that's a word). If you came out for free sites and sharing, you could and were banned from paysites.

Edit so that's why the filesharing AND the discussion is important. (eta). Don't just talk the talk, walk the walk.

I disagree. It's really quite annoying that people don't seem to be pointing out that it IS PMBD that got this new spark of discussion about paysites going. It's these nefarious pirate filesharers that is now allowing all of you to come out of the closet.

No one was even doing it the "right" way. Before it will succeed, people have to know about it. And they aren't going to know about it if big sites ban talk about it left and right. I'm glad you did finally leave the one thread up. That turned into a good discussion.

But those of you who were fence sitting don't get to now "define" the conversation and the revolution the way you want. PMBD came out of the closet in a big way and started this latest discussion in the sims community.

I've been following this for years. This might indeed be my first post on PMBD. I've got 5 kids, one of them still a nursling, so I don't often have 2 hands free to type. But I do read. A lot. Lots and lots of threads. And I've been playing first Sims 1, then Sims 2 from release. I've watched this paysite SHIT grow. And I've watched people waffle. Hell, I've waffled. Until PMBD made it "ok" to talk about it, no one WAS talking about it, in public at least. Everyone was all "Oh, I understand how the creators deserve credit. Oh, they must pay for bandwidth."