Well most of my packages end with "cpl", i'm not sure i did that also for the army set.
But be aware that set was done with 4-5 creators at that time.
Most meshes came from me and Fee, so i would better leave that one out on the graveyard.
I think it's better to wait now for if others also send some items to the graveyard.



that's very friendly of you Shanow, but i did upload a few things already on MTS2 in the meantime.
I also uploaded a few things for example a "cooking exhaust hood" that was never uploaded at smb but was normally part of a kitchen set.

I will not uploading anything that was made together by me and Katy.
Only the newspaper kiosk, that was under my name at smb and maybe the Fashion kiosk, because i worked very long on that mesh.
Also, i wouldn't feel good about it if i was to upload those things again, and 2nd, i think i want to close that chapter and move on.
I'm sure i still can offer much to the community with creating new things.
Over at MTS2 i now feel very good and i must say Delphy did much for me the last week to get my old account back and make me feel comfortable again.

I also have an offer from Insim that i still am waiting for a final response from Kathy there.
I think uploading at MTS2 together with insim and also Francy's and Rob's site i will have enough work.
But i will also try at least to put some objects at your site, but only new ones then if that's ok for you.
But at least allow me the time to have everything again uploaded at the other sites, it takes mighty long making new screens and uploading those things and meantime also creating new stuff.
When my account merge at mts2 is completely done, i will be making again foods also.
This together with hacks, new meshes and lots i think is enough to fill my days and to deliver quality uploads for my own, without thinking back at what i done before.

To wrap it up, as long as i don't see anywhere a ok from Katy to upload the things that where made together, i won't upload them under my name.
I think the graveyard is exactly the place where they belong for me.
And by myself i will not ask it to her.

Hope, i'm not sure how many items you made with Katy after i left, but i do know almost 30% she uploaded under her name was also with meshes done by me.
I created also the most meshes what we uploaded in our common account and i also created a few that she asked me, for her own, that didn't even where upoaded.
Even it's hard to say goodbye to all that work, i will only upload the newspaper kiosk at MTS2, that i had under my name at smb. (it is already uploaded btw)
I was thinking about the fashion kiosk also, but i changed my mind about that.
I did say here about all the stuff i made at smb, you can send it to the graveyard.
And i still mean that, of course not the items that where posted under my name alone.
I know also how hard it sometimes was that she gets the credits, while indeed sometimes meshing took much longer then adding a few lines of code.
I do make hacks myself for sims2 so i can tell, and she never allowed me to create hacks while i was at smb, because she felt it was against her then.
I hated also the fact she didn't allow me to upload food under my name there.
So i think i rather have a little pain now and allow my meshes on the graveyard then to have even more pain by uploading them, and then get angry replies in my threads from her. (even she cannot do anything about that anymore since she doesn't share them anymore)

BTW do you know if Kathy from insim is on vacation or away or something?
I send her a pm a week ago but she didn't reply that yet.

I'm happy you have your forum there again and also i started again creating and uploading at MTS2.
I think this thread did wonders for me!

Also on a side note for everyone here, about Jan (female or not)!
Personally i don't know it, could be, but i think no, i do think hes a guy.
A week ago someone showed me a photo where Katy was holding a teddy bear that she got from Svetlanka.
And i was very surprised to see Katy wearing a wedding ring on that photo.
To ad it even more suspicious, she deleted that picture after she posted it again after about 20 mins, but little she knew that someone saved that picture on his/her computer, and gave it to me. (i will not reveal the name of who i got it from)
Maybe she realized suddenly her wedding ring was visible in it, and then deleted it.
For those who saw my story i posted here in this thread a while ago, know this came pretty hard over to me.
But i can tell i always had the feeling they might had something together.
So i think more that Jan and Katy where a couple.

HawkGirl, thank you for pointing that out what i indeed gave permission for.
I will wait a while and look what's uploaded there, and if i happen to still have some items made by me and Katy that aren't uploaded on the graveyard, then i will send those also to them there.

PS Funny how fast this thread has gone over into a Sims 3 thread LOL!  :lol:
To add my 2 cents about sims 3, they still are in development phase at maxis.
At this moment there isn't anyone besides them that know how it will look like.
But i''m sure it will look better then sims 2.
The day SimPe for sims 3 comes out or another likewise program, i will be creating for sims 3.
Like it was with most of the expansions, i think we will see only the first screens when it is almost complete.

Arrr! This be good grog!

Yes it's only the domain name that's for sale.
But from what i see it is via a broker. (can get very expensive)
The content (database, posts, etc.) is on a providers server, that is something that isn't together with the domain name.
From what i can make of it, it seems like the content may already be deleted.
If they didn't pay server costs then i guess it's gone for good.

Thank u very much!!!
I hereby ask u and give u permission to upload everything i also made under my own name on SMB.
I dunno what u have that i made but anything what was on SMB is okay for me, in fact i think everything i ever made was there.

Can u give me a link towards graveyard?
I heard from it but never been there.
Can i reply there aswell that i fully agree with the content u uploaded there?

Don't worry about that S, we all wear that S but it takes time to fully see and understand who and what another person is, certainly online where u don't see another person in reality.
It took me 1 year and even at that point i fought hard with myself if i was right or wrong.

Charli, i recognize in great extend what u had gone through!
I also had so many fights there over the same things u say here.
When i left i created only 4 things afterwards that i uploaded on MTS2 under another name then smithycpl, it's been even 2 or 3 months since i created again, and playing the game also makes me think back at those terrible times there.
I didn't even updated SimPe in months anymore.
To be very honest at this point i did retire for a while but i do think about starting again.
Let me just say uploading under another name made me feel not so good at MTS2, but i wanted them to not be able to contact me anymore.
I even changed my email and never came on msn anymore.

I don't know if u still have contact with Tiy and Princess but if u do please say hi from me to them.
After all Katy and Jan used both of them to get rid of me over there.
I wish u all the best Charli.



No she did recoded those and i made the meshes.
That was the way we worked together, Katy cloned and coded for the purpose a item had to be and i made then the mesh.
So basically the Maxis codes where totally changed.
The only things i can code are placement, cars and food, but functions and animations where Katy's work.
Even if i try to code it myself i think it will take months for me to get it right.
Since she didn't use my meshes i would be wrong to take her codes.
I am sure she will not sue me but i would feel bad about it.

I wish i could bring together the good people and creators from SMB but i would not know how to start in the first place.
But i do miss many of them!
If any of them is willing to start a new site or group or whatever i will join and am willing to do again all what i did for SMB and the community.

Hello Fee and HopeBayler, it's been a long time.

Fee i really know how hard this list must be for u.
U did so much for SMB almost every day new items and always ready to participate in a community project, etc.
I never seen u anytime steal anything from anybody so this even surprises me more that they put that on this list.
After all i was for one year the person who had to look for copyrighted content, and i never ever had to delete anything from u.
But i do know that Katy hated the fact u uploaded also at MTS2 in fact she hated that from every creator.
She made me swear to never upload on MTS2 anymore before i joined on SMB.
When i left SMB i asked on MTS2 to make a new account (other name) and explained why and what happened at SMB and they agreed to allow me.
The only downfall is that i cannot log in anymore under smithycpl there.
I realy hope they leave u alone there and on your site.
From my part i thank u for all u did at SMB in the time i was there.


Hopebayler, i believe u started working together with Katy after i left.
Maybe u remember her kitchen items like the pizzapan, the toaster with oven and waffel iron.
When i got kicked out there i had meshed all those items and not to brag about it but they looked so realistic that i was very proud of them, but i could never use them anymore because Katy coded them.
Someone told me she remeshed those herself and they looked not good at all.
She also said that if i ever uploaded anything that she and i made together  she would sue me by court.
Somewhere i found that selfish from her because after all they where part my work also, but i never uploaded them.
i don't know u as good as i know Fee but i wish u much success at insim.

U know at one point it drove me almost crazy, i thought i was the only one who believed he was the same.
When i left i know that Svetlanka was a good friend of Katy and Jan and when i read now what they say about her i just can't believe how things can turn around so quickly.
Yes everything was spam and almost every new member was either Abstractsimmer or Dollface in his eyes.
At first when i left there i was broken but soon i realized how happy i became, still i do miss the community that i helped to build, i do miss many members there.
But i sure ain't missing the endless discussions with Jan/Natty over memberchecks and so called bad members.




Don't be sorry!
I rather know it then that this would have stayed behind my back.
No need to remove it for me.



I does make sense but i never wanted to look at that far, but i did had a feeling that they where in the same room most of the time.
Let's just say that there was a strong believe in myself that they where lovers, or man and wife, or roomies, i don't know.



Same for me, i am also happy u posted that list.

Maybe i didn't explain myself full, sorry about that, but someone posted in this thread in a reply that blacklist but i am not saying u guys supported that list!
I only replied here my experience at that site because a few here where also members there and where even in staff, i only said my part of it all and i do hope that people who read it don't judge those names immediately on what is written in that list, because 90% in it is way out of proportion and untrue.

I do have a thick skin so don't worry.

First of all let me just say i am very unhappy that Jan or whoever did this made this blacklist.
I am even more unhappy about the fact that my name is in it, but i do want to say a few words here about why i left there!

Let's start with the begin.
I was a creator at MTS2 and i was the one who asked Katy_76 if she was interested to create together with me.
I saw her stuff there and i really wanted to mesh for her, but she declined very politely at first.
After a month she pm'd me to ask me to join her site and become a creator and team leader for the creators there.
I visited the site and said yes to join under the condition that her and i would work together.
She agreed with that and so we started creating together.
Most of the time we talked by pm's there but i asked her to put up a msn account, and we chatted daily with each other.
More and more we grew towards each other and at one point we did became emotionally involved and had a crush for one another.
I think regulars at pc-sims did noticed this in the way we posted on the site to each other, but she did asked me to try to keep it a secret.
For her it wasn't that hard but for me it sure was, because i did wanted the whole world to know.

Something nobody can deny is the fact that i did putted all my energy in that site, aswell as Katy did, but somehow that wasn't enough for Nattymarvel who was admin, he started to see troublemakers everywhere and asked me to become the forumadmin and check out everyone and every uploaded content.
I declined at first but then Katy asked me to do it, so i did started to make many checks there.
I suddenly didn't had time anymore to create and was full time reading every post and checking every content that was posted there.
Still Natty was growing more and more paranoid and YES i do am responsible for him leaving.
But the way it happened was beyond imagination.
Someone who was close to Katy and Natty because they knew each other privately also, had uploaded some content with Maxis copyrighted material in it, so i deleted that upload.
That made that creator/staff member leave and Natty was so mad he left also.
But he didn't leave before formating the entire site.
Luckely for us we had a backup on the server and where able to regain most what was lost, but still needed a new admin who knew how to code.
After 2 days sponsor Stephan found Jan Deni and he was able to put us back online a week later.
I was demoted to again team leader because i made Natty leave and wasn't happy about that at all, but i did accepted it.
After that Katy and i started to create again together but things weren't the same anymore as before.
I did became again a forum admin there, by working hard for that site and i gained bit by bit again Katy's thrust in me.
But after a while Jan Deni also started to get so paranoid just like Natty did and i even still to this date believe that he and Natty are the same person.
He made me again do so many checks on people and the content that was uploaded, just like before and even worse.

Yes they did on SMB had ridiculous rules, most i never agreed with, but i had accepted them because i didn't want to loose Katy.
Yes we only featured what was exclusively uploaded on SMB only.
Yes we did made life uneasy for the ones who made sometimes a mistake by sending pm's in rude ways.
But i can assure u i never fully 100% backed them and i guess i was the only one who questioned sometimes our rules and the way of acting towards offenders.
Questioning the way our admin and rules worked doesn't make me a bad person i think.
I think that went out of hand and a few suddenly turned against me.
I had the option to stay there as a normal creator and Katy would never work with me again or simply leave.
I chosen the 2nd one and left immediately.
I also sended a pm on MTS2 towards Daisies to ask her if i could reregister at MTS2 under another name there and explained her why.
She agreed and even tho Smithycpl still exists on MTS2 i now do create under another name (i will not say what name it is to avoid pm's there).

Why and what happened in the meantime on SMB and why they closed i don't really know because i never visited that site anymore.
I just joined here because a friend of mine told me that my name was on a blacklist that was spreaded by SMB through e-mails.
Normally i would not even think about posting this here but if they write such lies about me and others then i feel i have a right to reply.

Writing this reply hurts me much more as u can imagine, and i am sure i will get angry replies and mails for it but i don't care.
I hoped even to never use the name Smithycpl ever again but this blacklist just made me so furious that i had to say this.
I see so many names on that list that where friends, top creators and ex-staff members and seeing them being made bad, just makes me sick to my stomach.

Also a reason i wanted to post in short my story here is not to clear myself but those other names on that list from any wrongdoing.
Spreading such a list shows the true nature of a person, and i think strongly that the end of SMB is triggered by a few things.
- Money: We always had trouble with the costs because the database was so huge and bandwide was really big.
- Jan Deni: because he was so paranoid and wanted staff members check everything and every content all the time 24/24.
He also banned many people there for very small violations.
I think staff after a while gets tired and leaves one at a time.

Now all of that said, i did loved that site and Katy and i did had many great times there, but even more there where days that i simply hated myself for doing what they asked.
I do hope for Katy that SMB returns but i do hope it happens with a nice admin and not one who sees hackers, spammers and troublemakers in everyone.