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1  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / I smell bullshit on: 2006 December 16, 23:19:32
Quote from: "redisenchanted"
I checked out Shannanigan's stuff over at TSR. I can't imagine why someone with that much talent settles for being one of Thomas's bitches. :shock: Her stuff is well made and unique, but as long as it remains hidden in TSR's huge pile of crap, not many simmers get to enjoy it. If she could get over not getting money for her creations, she could easilly have quite a following.


Mm-hmm. Like I said, she's one of the main reasons I'm willing to shell out for a TSR subscription - or was, their new policy on personal information sharing is making me reconsider.

The sucky thing about TSR, if you're someone like me who's way more into objects/furniture and Build Mode stuff than silly BodyShop crap, is that they have a handful of artists who are actually fantastically good at making stuff, and do it in unique personal styles that you can't really find replacements for anywhere else: Windkeeper (who, granted, is mostly just doing Maxis style stuff, but is damn good at it), Cashcraft, NoFrills, Shannanigan, DOT, etc etc. Even some of the SAs, like MsBarrows - I honestly don't know why SHE isn't an FA and some of the no-talents hacks they have are. They also have some retardedly good builders, like Tiko.

And yet, aside from Windkeeper and Sunair, who gets the most fellating and snuggly-fuzzies from the sheeps, and who clogs up the "Coming Soon" bar? The barbie-doll "Sim coutiers". Bah. I wish the FAs and SAs who made good STUFF (who, suprise suprise, seem to be some of the saner ones) would ditch TSR and set up their own site. Hell, I'd be willing to "donate" more just to see it happen.
2  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / I smell bullshit on: 2006 December 15, 21:39:02
Quote from: "Caedre"
On the other hand Pescado, what if all the paysites will be destroyed... we won't have all the nice content.. sure there are a few free creators.. but the best ones are pay...


Actually, a lot of the "best ones" are free, or were free until they got greedy. How many times have you heard, "oh, I love so-and-so's set, I had them from when they were on MTS2... she's gone pay now, though."

Effectively ALL of the worthwhile modders - including Pescado himself - are free.

Quote from: "Caedre"
Well be cutting our own fingers there.


Except that Pescado himself doesn't actually use any custom content except his own hacks, as far as I recall.

Still, don't drink the damn Kool-Aid. I think most paysite creators charge because there's a market for their stuff, not because they wouldn't do it if there wasn't.

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Theres nothing wrong in sharing with other people. But sharing can indeed go wrong. On the other hand... I have subbed more than ever on pay sites, so what excactly is your point?


The point is, some people who sub to paysites want to share, and Pescado is enabling it because he doesn't like paysites, and also because this is doubtless an amusing spectacle to him.
3  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / I smell bullshit on: 2006 December 15, 20:29:50
Quote from: "shannanigan"
I do it because I love it.... in fact I loved it very much until I found this site and started reading all the nasty things you guys say about us FAs. Why should I make people happy when they jab a knife in my back while making off with my goods that are supposedly garbage? You guys have stolen more than my stuff... you have stolen my fun.


Y'know, I'm a paying TSR member, and you're one of the main reasons I'm willing to shell out the $49.95 a year for a sub (because I'm a complete sucker for retro stuff, having an entire '50s hood), but I call bullshit on this.

What part of creating do you find fun? Obsessing over a mesh/texture, tweaking it to get it "just right"? Filesharing in no way makes that less fun, because it doesn't even affect it. Having a community of people who like your stuff / make similar stuff / post recolors of and do neat things with your meshes? You could maybe argue that filesharing makes it less likely for people to give the thanks and the warm-fuzzies, but there are plenty of people who pay for site subscriptions (like yours truly) who shun any kind of interaction at all, and probably plenty of people who aren't willing or able to pay for a sub to TSR who would happily give you the warm fuzzies if they could (say, if you stuck all your stuff on MTS2, instead.)

Really, the only aspect of being a paysite creator filesharing interferes with is YOU MAKING MONEY, and while I'm sure that's a sweet bonus when you can pull it off, I object to the notion that counts as "fun".

If you want to argue that PSMBD is ruining your PROFITS, okay, sure, but at least be honest about that.

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I know you all think FAs control their work.. but we have no control over what TSR does.


Then post all your stuff to MTS2, which does.

EDIT: And because I realize that I probably sound slightly bitchier than I intend, I'd like to point out that I really do adore your stuff and think you're one of the better FAs on TSR, and I would be bummed if you stopped creating. Still, if you'd rather spend your time sewing or crafting or whatnot, especially if creating really isn't fun for you anymore, go for it. Don't torture yourself doing something that's not fun for you anymore, especially for a site that seems to treat people as badly as TSR.
4  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Paysites Must be Destroyed MUST BE DESTROYED! on: 2006 December 08, 20:30:53
looooooooooooooool

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