Sorry, you thought wrong. They switched from subscription to "donation per set". As if this was less time consuming than subscriptions...
Also this is old news, this was the message which started all this...
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Sorry for the misinformation. I'm not that familiar with the site but I clicked on a few sets that I thought used to be pay and the download popped up.

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I went back and looked and the sets that now have paypal buttons didn't have them when I was there. I must have been there during the change over from paysite to paysite. lol

Looks like PMBD gets another kill mark. Habitat43 announces that they are going free - they list personal reasons for shutting down the subscription portion but it happened so soon after this information came out that my cynical mind sees them as very much connected. I'm sure this site will never be updated again and it will soon completely disappear from the web...I don't thing Birgit can have handle having a site that doesn't pays her for the time she spends making her wallbleedingthroungmaxisobjectoverridingpoorlytextured crap.


http://www.habitat43.com/

One thing that might help bring awareness to the awesomeness of free creators:

Become active in WCIF areas of other sites and send people to free sites for the stuff they want, especially when someone else has sent them to look at a pay item.

The important thing is that you have to take your idea outside of here and other forums like this you're really just preaching to the choir if you don't.

It's unfortunate that there will always be people who think pay is better. I don't understand it but that is a general belief in the Sims community. In many ways this site and the Booty haven't stopped subscriptions, slowed them down but not stop them, instead the booty has offered people who couldn't afford or didn't have access to PayPAl or a credit card an opportunity to get the pay stuff. Win for those people but a null for PMBD.

I think the sites that have felt the impact of the Booty the most are those that offer "donation" packs and not subscription sites like the craptastic TSR - and the reason why is that so many people are simply too impatient to wait until the newest stuff is uploaded to the Booty. Compounding the problem is the fact that SFVs new system doesn't work well for a site like TSR with their inbedded tracking info and people being afraid of getting banned. Basically, TSR has set it up so people are going to pay to download and they are not going to share with more than a few close friends - win for them and a lose for everyone else.

To a certain extent you're not battling pay sites so much as the the people who are willing to pay them - you have to change their perspective and I don't think that will ever really happen.  After Peggy's latest male hair fiasco you would think she wouldn't have a customer left but people still support her (and I mean that literately) and they will continue to support her until she decides she's made enough money and moves on.

Just my buck fifty

Pes said he was up for it if they did decide to go that route. I think it  would be a good thing, too bad they waited until the dance was almost over to make the offer.

Then you may want to think about plundering silently or, at the very least, act convincingly older than 12 :roll:

I thought all the content used was picked up when you packaged a sim in BodyShop,  maybe you still have the needed meshes.

Actually, WDS' policy is any TS2 file under 100kb is free. Since every file in that set is under 100kb it's all free. I don't think you can attribute this one to PMBD.

I the first chandelier they made and that was close to or slightly over 20,000, I think. I don't remember the counts on the others but they're not in my game either so I assume they were higher than I find acceptable. The pay ceiling lamp was around 10,000 +/- a few polygons. The little square light is in my game so it must be around or less then 800 polygons.

Many of the hair meshes are pretty high poly -  higher than Peggy's. The chandeliers are also high poly but the rest might be ok, I haven't checked all of the counts yet.

For the record I have absolutely no problem giving praise for work well done or even to a person in the community that goes that extra inch to help someone out. I just have a problem with the exaggerated praise you so often see. How many times have you downloaded something that people have praised to heaven and back and then when you get it in the game it has overwritten a maxis object, looked like crap or crashed your game? Personally I can't bring myself to do more than say thank you or comment on how lovely the object looks when I first download it.  After I've gotten in the game and checked the stuff out, I'll go back and add further comments but I don't gush and, in fact, I find gushing tedious. I firmly believe that everyone should have a life outside of the sims and I'm the last person you'll see bitching because site x hasn't updated in a week. If HP needs a break, she needs a break but why leave with a post like that? Her "Aside" comment annoys me too but it probably only bothers me. (hmm, did I go off on a tangent there?)

liegenschonheit is spot on when she says you can't pick and choose who's TOS you follow and who's you don't  - if you start doing that you set up a double standard and double standards suck. If I had a site for my recolors I would do the same as she has and include the mesh. I've seen the some of the few recolors I've done claimed by others, hell, they didn't even have the brains to change the internal file tag. I simply don't care.  I made it for my enjoyment but once its out of my hands I could care less what happens to it (that's not being altruistic either). If they feel a need to take credit for someone else's effort then that's their esteem problem not mine.

Paden , you realize that you're philosophy is probably one of the reasons pay sites are around and so widely accepted. The hyperbole of your post  kind of justifies a creators belief that they deserve to be paid for their time and effort. Granted you're praising free creators, but once upon a time they were all free. The whole sim community was free to all but then you had people spouting crap like "You're a God send." "What would I do without your creations in my game?" You are the god/goddess of whatever type of crap you make. At some point they realized people would pay them for the very stuff they were giving a way for free and then pay site after pay site sprung up from the bowels of hell and consumed us and we still said "OMG, you are the greatest thing since toilet paper; can I have your baby?"

No one owes us a damn thing and we don't owe creators anything beyond a thank you for sharing their work with us and credit when we use their work to make something of our own. I respect the talent of the people who have the ability to create for the game but I'm not going to give a way my option to express my opinion about their work or their attitude within the community - pay or free creators. When you find a creator who doesn't have a policy on their shit other than have fun with it then you'll have found an altruistic creator, but, as long as they have terms and conditions they are not creating for the love the creation but for the praise and idolization they get and often demand from us.

You can't lay this at liegenschonheit's feet. If HP is pissed because her free meshes are being uploaded with recolors of her work then that's her problem and smacks of egoism and because there's ego involved you can rule out altruism as a reason for her sharing her work. :roll: Sharing meshes with recolors just makes sense. Imagine of one of the major sites pulled all of their meshes - there would be sites whose content would be virtually useless because none of the meshes are available, so, now we've lost more then just the one site. I can just hear all of you flipping sides and bitching about the stupidity of creators who won't allow their meshes to be shared as soon as your impacted by sites closing and taking all their goodies with them. No wait, I've already heard the bitching.

Any creator has the option to take a break, none of them are enslaved to us - people need to think before they write some of this shit. Pay site owners just need to make people aware that they're going to stop updating before they go spending all of their ill gotten profits.

The main problem with the Sims Community is that we're greedy little bitches and bastards. In other gaming community mods are more or less open source. As long as you give credit to the originator of the mod you can use a piece here or a piece there and create something new or make an improvement and share it freely. Not so in this community, people's egos and need of constant ass kissing has gotten in the way of that.  

In a nutshell,  I say bravo liegenschonheit for taking a step to bring us back to where we ought to be.

That's not what my social studies teacher and president have lead me to believe, so you must be in error.

I'm sure that there are international tax laws that would effect gamers outside of the U.S. For example, if the money were made while playing on a server located in the U.S. then it may possibly fall under the proposed plan.

She's a business now so noticing and commenting on the quality of the product(s) being sold isn't an attack on the creator, it's just good fiscal reasoning. If they call her a lowlife, greedy paysite bitch (like they did in her guestbook) then it would be a personal attack.

Also, quality is completely subjective unless you have a collective agreement  of what "quality" is, which we do not.