My position is: I don't (can't) file share because I'll be damned before I pay for something, and I don't even download alot of custom content.
But I'm pro free and pro pirate. Especially since Sims 2 or Sims 3 custom content 'piracy' isn't even real software piracy.

And Atwa,.. oh Atwa, Atwa, Atwa... *shakes head*
There's no wonder this (part of the) database got leaked and there's massive script kid attacks on sims sites going on. She'd even share it with her milkman if she had it printed.

Well, Moune, I can tell you what I absolutely 'hate' about you too... (Not that I know you but whatever.)

Defending a man that has engaged in criminal activity, and then ragging on people because they don't think it's normal behaviour to try and hide such things? Ragging on people because they don't trust this type of person at all, because he has already engaged in such criminal behaviour? Ragging on people who expect more questionable behaviour in the future, based on things that happened in the past? Ragging on people who expect this man was more involved in things than he lets on, also based on how he was involved with one quite bad thing in the past? And assuming this man does not know anything about shit going on, basically based on nothing but his way with words and current behaviour? With no way of knowing if it's always him, all the time?
And you tell me people base their accusations and/or distrust on nothing?  

You know what, since no-one else seems to care about your reasoning behind this, I shouldn't care either. I guess I'll just ignore your posts in the future.

You need to stop acting hostile and put arguments forth without sounding condescending.  I'm not your enemy. I have a different opinion.

Too bad the image TSR is putting out is one of a friendly fansite and a community, huh?

Too bad the image TSR is putting out is one of  etc etc.
That is not the way things should work for a fansite, sorry. Even if you make money. It's detestable and not normal at all.


So what do YOU base your assumption on, exactly?
If you don't know what you're talking about, just don't comment on it. I'll do you a favour, read this thread and then make up your mind:  http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,17802.0.html  
Or, not.
 

*points to upper right corner* Just using whatever termonology's already been used. Really, you need to come off it yourself. You're on a site that deals in exaggerations all the time. Everyone knows paysites are not the end of the world and that Calalilly should not actually be killed (can already feel a Pescado comment coming). You just need something to nitpick about.
 
Look, I have to say one thing. You're adding sneers and sarcasm to your argumentation where's it's completely unnessecary. Just putting down arguments would have been plenty, but it seems you have the need to be condescending to put more power to your arguments.
I don't need the feeling I'm fighting someone when I'm just discussing with someone. And I definately don't like the fact that I've been responding to you the same way, so I apologize for that. But this way of discussing things is really tiring, so if you can stop adding the little jabs, it would be great. If you cannot, my discussion with you just ends here. Frankly, I don't agree with you and I don't really care what you think anymore, because of how you act.

Moune, no matter how normal you think it is to:
- pull back all public community contact from 'tarnished' people with the 'problem' community and only let one guy handle this image thing, namely the guy with no image problem
- make sure the lies match so that you can protect TSR
- make people believe you have no idea what's going on, that you would never agree to what Thomas is accused of doing, and that you are simply naive and believe your family and friends to not have shared the member database while all other options are extremely unlikely if not impossible
... I still think it's slimey and manipulative.

Anyways the point I'm trying to make is: This man is from TSR. Messed up things have happened. He claims he knows nothing. Why should we believe him? How do we know he did not know, when he has been proven to know and participate in one atrocity that's been bad enough? Just because he talks smooth and seems like a nice guy?

And sure Johan, you seem like a decent enough guy. But with how TSR has manipulated in the past and how they operate, I simply do not trust you to tell the truth on certain things. Ever. Even if you are shiney.

Ofcourse he is, but he has a financial and emotional interrest in protecting TSR's reputation. If the consensus among team Johan is made, all he needs to do is to act that out untill something new comes up.

Me neither, and that's not really what I said.
How long does it take to go on some chat program, decide on a general consensus, and only contact someone whenever something new comes up? Which is not very often, mind you. All that's been up for discussion lately are a few hackings. I'm sure Johan knows exactly how to react to stuff according to what they agreed to.

You don't really have to act like a total sockpuppet to agree on saying or not saying something, or agree on acting a certain way to keep up an image. I'm sure Johan is Johan, but I'm also sure he will do nothing to harm TSR, and to do that, you have to have the same story all the way. And a way to avoid mismatching stories, to to eliminate all other higher ranking TSR 'representatives' from interacting with the outside (pirate) community, which has happened. They don't bother, and I believe they agreed to stay out of it, as Johan gives off the right image.

Again, why only him? Why would the coder give a damn? The man that never bothered before?
Maybe because he's the only one believable enough, an untarnished reputation, with no real way of knowing if he shares his friends' and family's morals or ethics? It's ideal.

There are a couple of things going on, wich I think are:

We just watched him make a 180 degree change of opinion about Witchboy for no apparent reason and the same 'evidence' present. Why?

You could imagine that the one posting under 'Johan' has consulted 'Team Johan', and was basically told not to take a stance on this, to preserve the image 'Johan' has built up in this community. Blisfully unaware and naive about what his family does, believing in them 100%, and a rational thinker who does not lash out like Thomas does.

Somehow, that makes this poster look more sympathetic, or trustworthy. Especially with Pescado backing this image of 'non-artiste-ness'. Except he doesn't accept that Team Johan has artistes in it, and 'Johan' is very much willing to protect them.
With what I gather from Coconuts blog and 'Johan's' behaviour here, he is indeed 'Team Johan'. The way he appears only when there is trouble for TSR's image on the horizon.

He even apologized for the happenings in the past, the sharing of personal information, wich he first said never happened then said had nothing to do with / didn't know about, wich was a proven lie (there's screenshots of him doing it) so I can imagine he has stated this under 'Team Johan', just like the Myths posting, etc.

This just makes the whole situation more slimey and manipulative to me. Especially since some people are starting to believe 'it' actually acts on it's own and doesn't know what the others of 'Team Johan' are doing, thus does not share their lack of morals and ethics, and has no share in whatever TSR has done in the past. This is very dangerous.

Thanks for this info. You're a mod but mod powers are very limited so what could you even have done to cause such destruction. Does Scotty even seem like someone who'd willingly have his site destroyed just to implicate TSR?

Ok so all these little incidents were connected to eachother, same methods, probably same hacker. It doesn't prove it was TSR though, but it's still possible.

Would a TSR rogue change their way of working (script kid like attacks), in reaction to Pescado's examinations and conclusions of hackings, just so they can do damage, but also avert the attention from TSR? Or even implicate Witchboy or a group of pirates/friends to take attention away from TSR for some juicier drama?

What I would like to know is if GaySims2Club was also somehow connected to one of you who had their emails hacked.

Sapphire sims has a problem with people pretending to be an admin and sending members emails with links in them.

http://www.sapphiresims2.com/showthread.php?threadid=39258

I don't know what the nature of these emails are, but I think it could be an attempt to install a keylogger, or to get passwords for Sapphire Sims. Could be they're after harvesting personal information from members of that site or something, so it could be some random asshole.
But as Sapphire sims is on Delphy's server and is using some edited version of forum software, I assume the site would be hard to hack. A script kiddie would simply move on to something else. So we could have some desperate data farmer, or we have another impending account theft on a sim site in the works.

I wonder if Pescado is interrested in checking out those emails, and see what's behind the links in them. Keylogger?

How did you come to that conclusion? Coconut = Atwa?
Claiming that Coconut is the disgruntled ex FA Atwa would be an increadibly easy 'solution' to TSR's little problem though.

Hi Scotty,

I was wondering, does your website/forum software password recovery send you your old password, or lets you create a new one? Is that done through secret question, or through email solely? Were you able to login to your site with your old password?

Same question for your email service. Does it send you your old password, or makes you create a new one? Secret question?

Do you use some TSR tool? Do you? DO YOU??? (had to ask)

I'm asking, because...
- If your forum demands recreating a password without secret questions, that email adress was compromised. If you use that email for any other site, and God forbid, shit like Paypal, please check and change everything now. You would have noticed by not being able to login to your own admin panel because of a password change. I have the attention span of a trunk of wood so I don't remember if you already mentioned that, I'll have to reread.
- If your email was not compromised, and your forum software does not send you the old password after password recovery, the person must have known your password, (or guessed the secret question if it's in use.) This is really odd. If you used some TSR tool, it's a little less odd.
- (Edit: doesn't matter. Compromised is compromised. If the forum software sends you your old password, it sucks.)

That could narrow it down a bit. Maybe completely useless in proving anything, but still.

I can't say I have anything of Piggi's on my harddrive, but man, when I looked at her site I was in awe.
I bet TSR would LOVE to stiffle that creativity and imagination. And I think that is what they aim for.
When something is popular in the sims community, they try emulate it for the community they closed off from the 'bad, pirate, thief, free site'- outside world, because it has been tested and is known to be popular, thus will sell well.

Noticed that too.

But what exactly was stolen? The exact set, the textures and all? Or the colors?
I don't know what you can do about someone colordropping your used colors and using the same colors in their new work.
 
It does stand out that she uses the same order of presentation, so this was probably done on purpose to taunt the owner of Piggisims. Especially when you see they take the time to remove comments about this, but not to investigate the work or talk to this person. It takes maybe 5 minutes to open it up and compare. Probably shorter than the total time spent to delete the messages. It's really childish.

- TSR Admin: Hello FA's and SA's. As soon as we are through reading MATY and lifting a solution from there, you are required to update all your Sims 3 stuff.
* FA/SA: I'll be on vacation next week.
- TSR Admin: You're fired!

-TSR Admin: Hello EA friend. We're hoping that you'll be lifting a solution from MATY before the holidays.
- Random EA slave: Hello Admin! It's christmas and everyone is on holiday untill next year.
- TSR Admin: Ho...liday???  You're fired!
- Random EA slave: Excuse me?
- TSR Admin: Sorry, it's become kind of a habit. When are you releasing the fix?! Please tell me you have it quick!
- Random EA slave: *starts typing* Oh, I just read about the source of the mess-up ... we're very sorry but a bugged Atwa sim managed to sneak into the Swedish game versions without us knowing. Again. A fix may be a little more complicated than we thought. We'll get back to you around May. Ish.
- TSR Admin: THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE!
- Random EA slave: I know, rite? Merry christmas! *hangs up*
- TSR Admin: Should have let Johan handle this one.

If it's lasting, it's funnier. But, still funny enough for me!