Yeah - I got something similar, that said - and I forget exactly now b/c I clicked the option for it to go away forever - anyway, said something about welcoming me as a new user, and I should start my TSR experience by signing up for a free account.  I think they're going for the nice approach to sucker new people in, but (a) it's weird b/c I've been around there since Sims 1, so I'm not new either and (b) it's pretty damn hard to hide their evil money-grubbing bastardry under some "rah, rah" on their front page.

Morons.

Thanks for mentioning this - not *everything* is my kind of style, but the ones that I did download have been some of my favorite in-game. 

Having been around, in lurker mode under diff name, during that - it *was* horrible, but enough time has passed that my feeling is we have bigger fish to fry. 

Derelict - Zoolander

Love the cereals - esp. Shreddies.  Hmmmm - sounds like he might be kind of violent.  I like it.  hehe  That's my problem too - I like building & decorating more than the patience of growing generations of Sims.  I'll let you know if I find out through play about the cousins thing - but it might be around 2011. 

Oh, and Soggyfox - I love that you know your neighbors so well.  That's really sweet.    

Hee - I'm not as creative with the escapism as all that.  I have been doing an experiment lately though - speaking of incest (ick) - how far removed do Sim cousins need to be before they can hook up?  I know - warped, but I've always been curious...  I might have one giant infertile neighborhood soon...

I got on a kick of naming kids after breakfast cereals.  After Snap, Crackle, & Pop, things had to get a little more adventurous.  Honey Smacks?  Kinda sounds inappropriate.

By the way - I've had "I FEEL LIKE I'M TAKING CRAZY PILLS" stuck in my head since your post.   

I think with the sad state of things right now - we're going to be forced to adopt a more community atmosphere.  Right now, in my neighborhood, no one talks to one another - but it's totally true - we have several foreclosed homes on our block & maybe we could all pitch in and do the yards from time to time.  I don't know - maybe that's why I like poor challenges & the Broke family so much - success stories!!   

Sims is total escapism for me - in real life, I can't go to work in a helicopter or name my kids Count Chocula & Frankenberry.  heh

Thanks for the note on MTS2! - I'm going to be in a dark corner, slowly rocking back & forth until they come back. 

Right - my only thinking on it, would be to include ones that have gone out too though - because (and I could always have just missed it somewhere), there doesn't seem to be an easy way to track the good that has been done here, aside from killimark threads. 

No biggie - I'm not married to the idea or anything, just thought that with current talk of waning support for us, it might encourage more pirates (esp. new ones), by seeing what has been accomplished, because not everyone who comes here is looking at the cause, vs. "Yay, I can get stuff for free" or "Eh, I'll see what all the fuss is about, but I may not stay".  That's why I wondered about categorizing a list - so new people can see the history of what's gone on here, and the trending patterns. 

But I'd still like discussion about new ones as they pop up too - so either way, s'cool.

Fair enough - I agree!   

Then would we want to categorize them, simply into one giant list of wankers?

edit - for my own clarification

I'd be happy to help, although I claim no "special snowflake" knowledge.  *That term totally cracked me up!*

I've been thinking - what would be the point of the list really & why would I like to see it?  I'd be interested in tracking the trending of paysites, because I think it'd be a good measuring stick for what has been accomplished here at PMBD - through the posting of those pay items. 

Should we then, categorize this list - adding sites that have *only pay* items, then those like Liana, that have donation sets?  Or do we find all offenses to be equal? 

Alternatively, do we highlight those paysites that have turned free, even though they are listed on Money Better Spent?

I would at least like to see paysites listed, and when exactly they went pay.

I agree minions, and I also think that in the future Sims games will continue to offer lower and lower amounts of quality items in the base games.  That way, they tie in players for years to come because (unless you're smart and find the lovely free cc) you'll almost have to buy each expansion for improvement.  I see more and more that they hold on to ideas to be published at a later date, vs. Sims 1, in which I feel they were in the developing stages that happened organically.  I'm waiting until (a) the bugs are known and (b) until we know the nature of future expansion packs before getting Sims 3.

This is one of my favorite houses in my game.  I love the challenge of having a Sim family with little money gradually turn their crappy house into a beautiful home.  Mostly because I've downloaded so many beautiful things that don't cost much in game, that it's not a real challenge to create a beautiful home on little money anymore. 

Derelict Dreamhome (not brand new, but I didn't see it here yet - but apologies if I missed it)
http://www.modthesims2.com/download.php?t=268417

Yeah, I get the impression Nightmare was trying to jump on the bandwagon of going after new threads by using the FAQ as a means to put someone in his/her place - nevermind the recent discussions about being gentler about the FAQ, and only using that as a shootdown after it is a gross misuse of starting a new thread.  I have really appreciated the discussion in this thread, as opposed to general attacks on a new poster/new topic.     Plus, I do find it interesting to note that new paysites are popping up this late in the game.  I wonder if economic downturns are going to feed into this trend.

I think that's a good idea, as to avoid repeating general info - but just so long as it doesn't discourage discussion about new paysite finds, because I'd like to see more info about what the little guys are doing, not just TSR all the time. 

edit - for clarification - not "finds" as in offerings necessarily, but rather new sites & evildoings by the little guys

Great suggestion - that way there can be little mistaking someone's intention when posting a site.  While there will always be shite stirrer's and pro pay people in the woodwork, Nightmare's past posts show his penchant for fight and his ignorance, and I personally would love to know when new pays pop up.  I think for our mission here, it's good to track their popularity.