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226  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Re: Habitat43 News! Sharing Information! on: 2008 October 09, 08:17:44
I dunno, I think if you take away all the "we're sharing your private informations" crap, I personally think they are all kinda boring.   It's like no one has a personality there, everyone's so eager to agree with the last poster, and kiss everyone else ass, it's completely redundant and predictable.   Even their inner TSR 'drama' is making me yawn.  

Further, I don't know how Coconut can stand to do captions for Atwa's posts, I can barely finish skimming them without wanting to bash my brain in.  

It's very much like the town of Stepford over there at TSR isnt it? ThomASS & Steve are the head of the mens association & all the FA's were killed off when promoted to FA status & replaced with bot look-a-likes LOL
227  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Re: EA has been SUED ARR! on: 2008 September 25, 03:01:42
I posted this in the spore thread in Sharkbait but saw this thread & thought i'd add it here too.

Seems EA has violated 3 CLRA's (Consumers Legal Remedies Act).

http://www.harp.org/clra.htm

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California Civil Code 1770 (a) 5, 7, & 14.

1770.


(a) The following unfair methods of competition and unfair or deceptive acts or practices undertaken by any person in a transaction intended to result or which results in the sale or lease of goods or services to any consumer are unlawful:
(1). Passing off goods or services as those of another.
(2). Misrepresenting the source, sponsorship, approval, or certification of goods or services.
(3). Misrepresenting the affiliation, connection, or association with, or certification by, another.
(4). Using deceptive representations or designations of geographic origin in connection with goods or services.
(5). Representing that goods or services have sponsorship, approval, characteristics, ingredients, uses, benefits, or quantities which they do not have or that a person has a sponsorship, approval, status, affiliation, or connection which he or she does not have.
(6). Representing that goods are original or new if they have deteriorated unreasonably or are altered, reconditioned, reclaimed, used, or secondhand.
(7). Representing that goods or services are of a particular standard, quality, or grade, or that goods are of a particular style or model, if they are of another.
(8 ). Disparaging the goods, services, or business of another by false or misleading representation of fact.
(9). Advertising goods or services with intent not to sell them as advertised.
(10). Advertising goods or services with intent not to supply reasonably expectable demand, unless the advertisement discloses a limitation of quantity.
(11). Advertising furniture without clearly indicating that it is unassembled if that is the case.
(12). Advertising the price of unassembled furniture without clearly indicating the assembled price of that furniture if the same furniture is available assembled from the seller.
(13). Making false or misleading statements of fact concerning reasons for, existence of, or amounts of price reductions.
(14). Representing that a transaction confers or involves rights, remedies, or obligations which it does not have or involve, or which are prohibited by law.
(15). Representing that a part, replacement, or repair service is needed when it is not.
(16). Representing that the subject of a transaction has been supplied in accordance with a previous representation when it has not.
(17). Representing that the consumer will receive a rebate, discount, or other economic benefit, if the earning of the benefit is contingent on an event to occur subsequent to the consummation of the transaction.
(18). Misrepresenting the authority of a salesperson, representative, or agent to negotiate the final terms of a transaction with a consumer.
(19). Inserting an unconscionable provision in the contract.
(20). Advertising that a product is being offered at a specific price plus a specific percentage of that price unless (1) the total price is set forth in the advertisement, which may include, but is not limited to, shelf tags, displays, and media advertising, in a size larger than any other price in that advertisement, and (2) the specific price plus a specific percentage of that price represents a markup from the seller's costs or from the wholesale price of the product. This subdivision shall not apply to in-store advertising by businesses which are open only to members or cooperative organizations organized pursuant to Division 3 (commencing with Section 12000) of Title 1 of the Corporations Code where more than 50 percent of purchases are made at the specific price set forth in the advertisement.
(21). Selling or leasing goods in violation of Chapter 4 ( commencing with Section 1797.8 ) of Title 1.7.
(22). (A) Disseminating an unsolicited prerecorded message by telephone without an unrecorded, natural voice first informing the person answering the telephone of the name of the caller or the organization being represented, and either the address or the telephone number of the caller, and without obtaining the consent of that person to listen to the prerecorded message.
(B) This subdivision does not apply to a message disseminated to a business associate, customer, or other person having an established relationship with the person or organization making the call, to a call for the purpose of collecting an existing obligation, or to any call generated at the request of the recipient.
(23). The home solicitation, as defined in subdivision (h) of Section 1761, of a consumer who is a senior citizen where a loan is made encumbering the primary residence of that consumer for the purposes of paying for home improvements and where the transaction is part of a pattern or practice in violation of either subsection (h) or (i) of Section 1639 of Title 15 of the United States Code or subsection (e) of Section 226.32 of Title 12 of the Code of Federal Regulations.
A third party shall not be liable under this subdivision unless (1) there was an agency relationship between the party who engaged in home solicitation and the third party or (2) the third party had actual knowledge of, or participated in, the unfair or deceptive transaction. A third party who is a holder in due course under a home solicitation transaction shall not be liable under this subdivision.
 
(b)

(1). It is an unfair or deceptive act or practice for a mortgage broker or lender, directly or indirectly, to use a home improvement contractor to negotiate the terms of any loan that is secured, whether in whole or in part, by the residence of the borrower and which is used to finance a home improvement contract or any portion thereof. For purposes of this subdivision, "mortgage broker or lender" includes a finance lender licensed pursuant to the California Finance Lenders Law (Division 9 (commencing with Section 22000) of the Financial Code), a residential mortgage lender licensed pursuant to the California Residential Mortgage Lending Act (Division 20 (commencing with Section 50000) of the Financial Code), or a real estate broker licensed under the Real Estate Law (Division 4 (commencing with Section 10000) of the Business and Professions Code).

(2). This section shall not be construed to either authorize or prohibit a home improvement contractor from referring a consumer to a mortgage broker or lender by this subdivision. However, a home improvement contractor may refer a consumer to a mortgage lender or broker if that referral does not violate Section 7157 of the Business and Professions Code or any other provision of law. A mortgage lender or broker may purchase an executed home improvement contract if that purchase does not violate Section 7157 of the Business and Professions Code or any other provision of law. Nothing in this paragraph shall have any effect on the application of Chapter 1 (commencing with Section 1801) of Title 2 to a home improvement transaction or the financing thereof.

I see a few in there that could be applied to sims 2 paysites if one decided to sue them  Cheesy
228  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Re: Habitat43 News! Sharing Information! on: 2008 September 23, 07:21:38
So I wonder over to the Habita43 website, thinking to myself, it has to be a free item right? Although in the back of my head, I was truly expecting it to be pay. When I get there I see this:

"Because of some changes in our lives - Steffors stressy academic studies and our jobs we decided to give up our subscription-system. There are new sections where you can find our stuff. Please feel free to use our "Cafe habitat"-Forum if you have any question. We wish you very much fun with our stuff!"

I don't wish to join their forum, so is it a killmark or not? Tongue

Well id say not a kill mark seeing as 8 sets are still set as pay.

1 Bathroom
3 Bedrooms
1 Diningroom
3 Livingrooms

I wouldn't doubt that the sets that are still pay are Birgit's. It seems only Sasila & Steffor's stuff were set free.
229  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Re: Habitat43 News! Sharing Information! on: 2008 September 20, 00:48:55
Quote from: Titan
Ok, so what you're say WB, is that what they were doing over at TSR private forum was illegal since real names were being used in there, right? 

I believe from what the attorney said it has to to be a combination of real name & one or more of the following.....

banking info, credit card info, real address.

Whether sharing email addresses and screen names is illegal or not, it is certainly a bullying tactic.  I would think that most people would not want this information shared despite it being legal.  I know I wouldn't want my email just given out.  I get enough crap as it is. 

I completely agree with you Tomato. It shouldn't been done whether its legal or not.
230  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Re: Habitat43 News! Sharing Information! on: 2008 September 20, 00:25:10
The sharing of email address & screen names is not illegal as per Attorney Andrew Jaffe said. It becomes illegal when they start sharing banking info, credit card info, your real name & real address.
231  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Re: Habitat43 News! Sharing Information! on: 2008 September 20, 00:05:46
I received a response from Attorney Andrew Jaffe on the questions i had asked by e-mail. Here is what he basicaly told me by phone.

Do Sims 2 pay sites who create Custom Content for the game own any copyright what so ever over said content?
There is no intellectual copyright for these items. Once the item is created & put into a ea/maxis package format for the game the copyright reverts automatically back to EA.

Why you must add the "This site is not endorsed by or affiliated with Electronic Arts, or its licensor's. Trademarks are the property of their respective owners. Game content and materials copyright Electronic Arts Inc. and its licensor's. All Rights Reserved."

So EA is not liable for said sites & or services.

Why EA doesn't stop Paysites?

EA has not stepped in to stop it because it would behoove them to do so seeing as both pay sites & freesites help sell their product. But EA could step in at anytime, say all of this is ours & you must cease & desist.

Is the sharing of personal pay pal info between owners of Sims 2 paysites illegal?

Sharing of e-mail address & screen names is not illegal. As long as their not sharing banking, credit card, real name & address info. That would then make it illegal.

232  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Re: Habitat43 News! Sharing Information! on: 2008 September 19, 21:53:25
Your absolutely correct Titan & i couldn't agree with you more. She's trying to cover up her tracks & then the topper throws it all on birgit LOL

I wonder who this witchy is that lyric was responding too? Tongue
233  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Re: Habitat43 News! Sharing Information! on: 2008 September 19, 05:39:58
Well i just sent a e-mail out to Marc J. Zwillinger who is the chair of the Information Security and Anti-Piracy practice group at Sonnenschein Nath & Rosenthal and is a former cybercrime prosecutor with DOJ. He provides advice and counsel on preventing, minimizing and recovering losses from cybercrime to some of the nation's leading financial institutions and consumer companies. He also helped with California's new mandatory disclosure law.

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Hello Mr. Zwillinger,

My name is.......... & i am a member of The Sims 2 Community on the web.
 
There is a big debate going on over Sims 2 pay sites (Sites who make content & charge money for said content) & Free Sims 2 sites. The pay side believes they own copyright over the said items created using tools from Electronic Arts & 3rd parties. Without said tools to import the files you create into a viable Electronic Arts package format for use in game the files are useless. Creators who create items for the game The Sims 2 use poser meshes & or other 3rd party created meshes & textures using existing Electronic Arts game items as the base for new custom content. 
 
Now comes the debate. Do Sims 2 pay sites who create Custom Content for the game own any copyright what so ever over said content? Is selling said content against the law or illegal? Do they have the right to tell you what you can & cannot do with said content once you purchase it? or does the copyright belong solely to Electronic Arts the makers of the game? (See EA Eula below) The same electronic arts who encourages sharing of all custom content pay or free.
 
The other debate going on is ts2 paysites are collecting and sharing personal pay pal info of users who buy custom content for the game with other Sims 2 paysites, then banning those people & not refunding any money they have paid for a download subscription or sets of custom content once they are considered to be file sharers. Is the sharing of peoples personal pay pal info between these owners of ts2 paysites illegal?
 
Also as a consumer say i purchase said content from a Sims 2 pay site & then decide to share it with a friend or other people who play the game. Is that legal considering Sims 2 content is made off of existing electronic arts content? What are my rights as a consumer of Sims 2 Custom Content from 3rd party websites who charge for said custom content?
 
The Sims 2 Eula states:

Pasted Eula here



234  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Re: Habitat43 News! Sharing Information! on: 2008 September 19, 00:30:06
Lyric has posted again at Reflex Forum......

http://www.reflexsimsforum.com/showthread.php?p=277685&posted=1#post277685

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Ya know yall can quit quoting me, I give up on this whole friggin community.
If you steal from someone and they tell their friends you're a theif and it bothers you then don't steal from em. I mean jesus is that really that hard to comprehend.
But whatever. I suppose no one can disagree with the masses or theyre the bad guy. I didnt know being a member in this community meant I had to sacrifice my own opinions and follow a herd. Which is something I wont do so yall can find someone else to blow up on. This is a game and so not worth this stupid drama.

How she & other paysites consider buying subscriptions & CC goodies stealing boggles my mind. You paid for said subscription, you paid for said CC then its yours to do with how you want. It now belongs to you.

Stealing would mean breaking into a store (Paysite) & leaving with all the goodies.

235  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Re: Poor Atwat.... on: 2008 September 09, 06:41:50
Atwat is the new Jan LOLOL Thats hilarious Markus  Cheesy
236  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Re: Poor Atwat.... on: 2008 June 20, 07:12:05
237  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Re: Poor Atwat.... on: 2008 May 30, 09:58:32
I don't think I'm going to sleep for a week.  Cheesy

Just think of what their fugly offspring looks like after their one night of drunkin passion Cheesy Something along the lines of Jake Tucker from Family Guy Grin


238  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Re: TSR New EA Land site on: 2008 April 30, 08:38:00
Seems they closed TSO/EALand for this Shocked https://www.simscarnival.com/portal/signin

It is in the beta stage at this point.
239  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Re: Poor Atwat.... on: 2008 April 29, 15:19:47
I'd recommend Atwat's G-Spot.

Look i found Atwat's G-Spot

240  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Re: Poor Atwat.... on: 2008 April 21, 07:13:52
Heres a good one.....

It's Joan Crawford vs. ABBA

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vGkjmUsIFR0

Grin Cheesy
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