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Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: Pescado on 2007 April 06, 20:18:08
Check this out:
http://www.insimenator.net/showthread.php?t=42552
http://www.simshost.com/


Title: Re: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: Aquamarine on 2007 April 06, 20:42:11
Quote from: "Pescado"
Check this out:
http://www.insimenator.net/showthread.php?t=42552/


Lulz. :roll:

Quote from: "Pescado"
http://www.simshost.com/

Huh, I've never even heard of these people. A mini TSR?


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: AnneBonny on 2007 April 06, 20:46:43
Good riddance to SimHost. Killmark indeed.  8)


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: Lorelei on 2007 April 06, 21:08:36
If SimsHost is going down, you can perhaps claim a number of Killmarks:

"

SimsHost has had the inestimable privilege of hosting all these wonderful sites:

Sims 2 Sites
These sites have downloads for The Sims 2.
See the SimsHost Chronicle for the latest updates!
Artistic Habitats
ArtSIMz
Candace's Sim Bazaar
Elektrafied Sims
Elemental Sims
Empire Sim
Enchanted Sims Curio Co.
Even More for Sims
Hans Christian Andersim 2
Hullabaloo
It's Simply Similicious
KILLERSIMS
Mocha Sims
My Funny Simentine
Nana's Sims 2
Pompkyn's Sims Boutique
Seasonal Sims 2
Sexpot Sims
Similarity Sims
Simmage
SiMonet
Sunny Side Sims
The House Depot
The Sim Republic
The Sims 2 at SimsHost
The Sims Lady
Troll Sims
Vintage Sims
The Wooden Simolean
Yuppie Sims"

And that's just the sims 2 sites.

The whole list, frshly ganked for your hand-rubbing, "EXcellent!"-muttering, gloating pleasure:

"

The Sims Sites
These sites have things for The Sims 1
Artistic Habitats
ArtSIMz
CanAm Sims
Candace's Sim Bazaar
Clockwork Sims
Dan's Downtowns
Elemental Sims
Empire Sim
En Plain Aire
Even More for Sims
Hans Christian Andersim
Helena's Sim Site
Hullabaloo
It's Simply Similicious
Job Two Sims
KILLERSIMS
Kimbarlou Sims
Lady M Sims
Lemon Sims
Lone Star Sims
Lots of Sims Lots
Mocha Sims
My Funny Simentine
Original Sim Junkies 2
Pompkyn's Sims Boutique
Seasonal Sims
Sim City Community College
Sim Homes & Real Estate
Similarity Sims
Simmage
Sims Festival
Sims Investment Properties
SimsHost Downloads
SimsHost Exchange
Simlicious Sims
Stimusims
Sunny Side Sims
The Pearl
The Sim Republic
The Sims Lady
The Unusual Sim
The Wooden Simolean
Tom's Sim Stuff
Trollops & Johns
Troll Sims
Ultimate Sims List
Vintage Sims
Yuppie Sims

Adobe Atmosphere
Smeddum's Lair

Roller Coaster Tycoon
Roller Coaster Republic

Zoo Tycoon
Bamboo Zoo Shack

Yesterday's Treasures

These sites have not updated in a while and some of them do not plan to be actively updating in the future, although some do post updates for special events such as the treasure hunts. The creators of these sites want to keep the goodies on these sites on line for you to enjoy, so here they are!

All For Sims
Carrie's Sim Corner
Gimmie Sim
Historic Sim Houses
Nitesims
Object ID
Old Skins by Daboo and Ana
PsiQuest Sims
Portobello Road
Real Simple Magazine
Red Light Sims
Shylo's Attic Dream
Simfully Yours
Simplify
SimSalon
Sim Signs
Sim SpiriT
Sims…to go
Taz's Sims Houses
The Sims Thrift Mart
This 'N That Sim Stuff
Velaria's Simgirls
Wytch's Brew
Zoo Simz "

Hmm. :)

Re: the first link: I'm not sure the message was understood fully by the board posters. To be fair, he was a wee bit cagey about what side he stood upon, if one is sarcasm-impaired.


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: Lorelei on 2007 April 06, 21:12:23
Incidentally, the only site on that list that looks familiar to me is All For Sims, and maybe Artistic Habitats. Never used any SimsHost sites.

What hosting group is/was Dincer Hepguler's site on? MoonSims or somesuch? I forget. It is/was a similar umbrella of pay-ness, though.

ETA: "SITES HOSTED BY
MOON SIMS

dincer hepguler
thesims site

Hooty Holler

Ikbod's

KILLERSIMS Free

SimLove

Similarity Free

Sim-Sations

SimsDiva "

Some duplications here and with SimsHost. Not interested in parsing who should get credit or blame for being the PayMeister for the group of sites, but I suppose SimsHost would outrank MoonSims, given that they claim they "brought you MoonSims".


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: Rovam on 2007 April 06, 21:54:44
Simshost is dead? EXCELLENT. That deserves an extra-shiny killmark. Maybe with fairies and glittery sparkles ala Peggy.

Aquamarine - they're like a hosting service  for sims sites, a little like TSR except everything's not consolidated on one big site. People had to donate to Simshost to access the content on any of the sites hosted there (and the content was, for the most part, purest crap. Sub-TSR crap, in many cases).


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: Quorneater on 2007 April 06, 21:55:57
The article on simhost was dated 1st April.


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: Aquamarine on 2007 April 06, 22:58:45
Quote from: "teadrinker"
The article on simhost was dated 1st April.

And thus the fun was ruined.  :lol:


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: troubledrose on 2007 April 06, 23:21:03
Quote
Our apologies for the timing of this announcement. Please be assured that this is not an April Fool's Day joke.


From the bottom of the announcement. :|


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: chlyn on 2007 April 06, 23:43:02
The spin with SimsHost was that you paid the money up front, and each download would be a charge against your account, to pay for bandwidth.

As soon as any artist got popular and saw how much Greg was earning from her work, she/he'd leave and start a paysite.

The artists that were left weren't as skilled and sometimes didn't update as often. I'm surprised the site lasted as long as it has.


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: ghengisjohn on 2007 April 07, 00:02:57
I really don't understand this plague for needing pay for hosting (okay, yes I do. They just want the money). There's all the ones that'll let you put your stuff up for free and I can't be the only person who offers to host anyone they see in trouble.

Also! I love Tubekitten. He should make friends with this little guy: http://www.roflcat.com/curse-you-villain.php

He's who I picture when I think about the paysite owners and this place, anyway.


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: missangelica on 2007 April 07, 00:29:55
To think that this news was an April Fools joke made me tear up a little.  Good riddance to simshost!


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: Lorelei on 2007 April 07, 00:50:04
Quote from: "Flonne"
Simshost is dead? EXCELLENT. That deserves an extra-shiny killmark. Maybe with fairies and glittery sparkles ala Peggy.


With a Pirate Cat, you mean.

Y HELOW THAR, I EATED UR CRAPPIE WEEBZYTE

ME-ARRRRRRR-OW


Title: Re: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: Diala on 2007 April 07, 01:25:52
Quote from: "Pescado"
Check this out:
http://www.insimenator.net/showthread.php?t=42552


I can't tell if that guy is making fun of pro-paysite arguments or is serious.  :roll:


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: RedLove on 2007 April 07, 01:49:07
Woo! If we're having an e-party I'll bring the e-potato salad. :) That bit about the April Fools Day scared me. I was thinking "What if it really is an april fools joke they just don't want us to think so?"  :?


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: Garnet on 2007 April 07, 01:50:31
He's saying that we steal food & stuff outta site owners' mouths with our OMGAWFUL PIRATING SINS!

I think he's the main guy over at Simshost, and he's posting that shirt as a [hopefully] final whine.


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: Diala on 2007 April 07, 01:59:09
Some of the arguments are just ridiculous. Especially the one about single moms. Um, is that supposed to make me sad or sympathetic? I was raised by a single mom. Sure, it would be nice for her to be able to stay home making Sims crap, but guess what? Life isn't fair.

Besides, what kind of job is running a paysite, anyway? Sure, you may be around for your kid more, but there is NO job security whatsoever. I'd think that, if I were a single mother, I would make sure there is a secure cash flow first. Babysitters are not completely horrible.

I am sure they're just bitter because there is nothing they can do about it (obviously, EA doesn't give a shit), so they crank out the ol' violin.


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: kissmybooty on 2007 April 07, 02:48:24
let me just add my single mom raised 5 kids on her own with no help from anyone she busted her ass and worked 16 hours a day when she had too please spare me the drama folks! I have been working since i was 13 years old get off the lazy mode it's amazing what can happen.


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: Randomness on 2007 April 07, 02:54:18
Which solgan is catchier, do you think?

PMBD: Forcing Women into Having Sex and Have Illegitimate Babies in Order to Steal Their Food Since 2007.

The Sims 2: We Don't Care if you Make Money Off of Our Hard Work. Really!


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: kissmybooty on 2007 April 07, 02:58:00
hehe both!

Or PMBD : we piss on the paysite fire so you don't have to


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: Yaardarm Monkey on 2007 April 07, 04:39:35
Greg has really hit rock-bottom with that one   :roll:

Never mind the fact HE (as SimsHost pimp) takes food out of starving chilluns by running a paysite host!

Maybe Greg should look in the mirror and ask himself how many people PAY HIM instead of using their money for....oh maybe...their children?   :wink:


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: Quorneater on 2007 April 07, 07:50:41
Quote from: "troubledrose"
Quote
Our apologies for the timing of this announcement. Please be assured that this is not an April Fool's Day joke.


From the bottom of the announcement. :|


It's not going to be a very good joke if they say "by the way this is an april fools joke" is it?


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: Marhis on 2007 April 07, 10:55:23
Quote from: "Denimjo"
PMBD: Forcing Women into Having Sex and Have Illegitimate Babies in Order to Steal Their Food Since 2007.


I totally love this!  :D


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: obscurity on 2007 April 07, 14:33:35
Quote from: "Marhis"
Quote from: "Denimjo"
PMBD: Forcing Women into Having Sex and Have Illegitimate Babies in Order to Steal Their Food Since 2007.


I totally love this!  :D


So who's making the t-shirts?  :lol:


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: redisenchanted on 2007 April 07, 14:44:38
Silly, me. When I was in social work, I would help people get education for better jobs, advise them of goverenment programs, work out child care issues...

I should have just told them to open a Sims paysite to feed their chilluns'  :roll:

Even better, I should have had them pay ME to host their site. That would have really helped.  :lol:


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: calalily on 2007 April 07, 15:06:54
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So who's making the t-shirts?


Me. Lucky I had Bodyshop open already.

(http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/8995/menspmbdfrontax5.png)
(http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/7045/menspmbdbackds6.png)
(http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/8117/womenspmbdfrontdh8.png)
(http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/6006/womenspmbdbackos6.png)


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: dorquemada on 2007 April 07, 15:25:56
When I was a kid, I nicked a couple of books and an aquarel set from the shop, because I had no money to buy them and like, totally wanted. But even then I didn't think it was a right thing to do...in other words, that guy can stick his sob story where sun shineth not.


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: Jojoba on 2007 April 07, 15:36:11
That is great calalily!!  :lol:

...do I have to pay to get it?! I can give money...small children...or even get you a guest artist section at Carla Niven's site!!


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: calalily on 2007 April 07, 16:21:18
Quote from: "CaptainJojoba"
That is great calalily!!  :lol:

...do I have to pay to get it?! I can give money...small children...or even get you a guest artist section at Carla Niven's site!!


I'm asking for $300 per download, but am willing to give a breakdown of costs:
- free photoediting suite with flatbed scanner which cost $100,
- sims which I enjoy playing, but that you have to pay me for $380
- compy to play the sims, and addons, which I can't live without $2000
- time taken to make them - 10 minutes - per minute rate is oh, $1 - $10
- time taken to upload them to imageshack - 4 minutes - per minute rate is $0.50 - $2
- time taken to make the post - $1 flat rate
- replying to this - $1 flat rate

Grand total: $2494
Therefore: I need 8 people to pay for the downloads, and I'll put it in the booty.

Send your money now before all is lost.

Kidding - PM me if you REALLY want them. *whistles while looking at empty PM box*


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: Jojoba on 2007 April 07, 16:25:17
At that price I'd be mad not get them  :wink: Real bargain!


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: calalily on 2007 April 07, 16:49:29
I masqueraded as a teen on my site, who owed Felphy some money, and it is all paid for:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OZFTM8AH

Download away.


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: Jojoba on 2007 April 07, 17:03:00
Thanks for the link Calalily! :]


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: Lhop on 2007 April 07, 17:18:41
Thank you for the link.  I just sent you a PM before I saw this.  Sorry...


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: calalily on 2007 April 07, 17:25:36
Oh - forgot my terms of use:

You may only use them on sims that have my approval - you may have downloaded them, but I have control of them in private dwellings as well.

Don't look at them out of the corner of your eye, don't look at them in bodyshop, and don't use them on the following sims:

fat, thin - ONLY ripped ones.
teen, child, toddler, young adult, elder - ONLY males or females, adults, aged 1-5 sim days.
All sims wearing them must have the biggest lips ingame.

Don't even THINK about taking screenshots - even if they are stored on your computer only - I will know!

 :lol:


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: Randomness on 2007 April 07, 18:30:26
Quote from: "calalily"
Oh - forgot my terms of use:

You may only use them on sims that have my approval - you may have downloaded them, but I have control of them in private dwellings as well.

Don't look at them out of the corner of your eye, don't look at them in bodyshop, and don't use them on the following sims:

fat, thin - ONLY ripped ones.
teen, child, toddler, young adult, elder - ONLY males or females, adults, aged 1-5 sim days.
All sims wearing them must have the biggest lips ingame.

Don't even THINK about taking screenshots - even if they are stored on your computer only - I will know!

 :lol:

Calalily...you're killing me here! :lol:

Oh wait...does your file have a built-in self-destruct mechanism that will automatically activate in two weeks, forcing the user to repurchase?  8)


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: annawanna on 2007 April 07, 18:46:23
I'm dying here  :lol:.

Those are the best terms of use, ever.


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: OneEyedWillie on 2007 April 07, 19:01:15
Ok I'm confused here....when I saw this over on Insim I read it as he were taking the mick....am i wrong? (I'm talking bout the greg guy)


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: Marhis on 2007 April 07, 19:20:59
ROFL thanks Clalily, I will put them in my game for sure  :D Just wait a couple of days, till my sims have work out enough to be fit :>


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: Tchannie on 2007 April 07, 19:35:37
I'm a little confused too.

However, C-Lily, those are GORGEOUS (read: :shock:) and I LOVE (read: completely willing to obey!!!) your TOS!!!

However, I personally loved this one:

Quote
PMBD : we piss on the paysite fire so you don't have to



And Flonne, you're right here:

Quote
Simshost is dead? EXCELLENT. That deserves an extra-shiny killmark. Maybe with fairies and glittery sparkles ala Peggy.


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: calalily on 2007 April 07, 20:17:39
Quote
Oh wait...does your file have a built-in self-destruct mechanism that will automatically activate in two weeks, forcing the user to repurchase?


No - but it does contain a terrible virus which will decimate your computer and make you speak l33t and say ZOMG!!!111. So problem solved, because I've been talking to OpenassSlack, and he says I should feign knowing who the hell you are, so I can claim I've never heard of you, and you pay for a new username etc.

Quote
Ok I'm confused here....when I saw this over on Insim I read it as he were taking the mick....am i wrong? (I'm talking bout the greg guy)


No - he hates us and all our kind, calls us cowards etc. on his forum.  I wasn't sure either, so I checked out a bit.  Don't know what his issue is, but as you can see, my heart just bleeds for him.

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PMBD : we piss on the paysite fire so you don't have to


I'll make those tomorrow - just closed Bodyshop, but should have them bright and shiny for you then - and then it's pay up my pretty! I'll make em blue for you.


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: Tchannie on 2007 April 07, 22:29:24
Awww! Thank you! Can I have pwetty pink ones too pwease? Just for the blokes. 8)  :lol:


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: calalily on 2007 April 08, 09:24:08
(http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/5571/pmbd3frontem9.png)

(http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/5098/pmbd3backid9.png)

(http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/5799/pmbd4frontiu5.png)

(http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/1078/pmbd4backls2.png)

Usual terms, but added bonus, I will start charging $1000 for them on Turbosquid, they are only decorative items (not functional in any way and will appear as a sculpture in game, and not for the purpose they're obviously designed for).  Just remember Ayn Galt when playing with them, or I will get my blackcat husband to come over to your house and delete them personally.

I am also holding a model of 2007 contest, so that you can make your prettiest sims, and I can slap a brand on their arse.

And from now on, my name is Caleliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiilya - feel sorry for me - I am forced to do this by Palestinian terrorists who won't leave my house (they've eaten all the chips, and are forcing me to open a paysite).

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QV8IREB1


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: Tchannie on 2007 April 08, 12:32:34
*pays quickly and heads to the downloading place* Hmm, who shall I put these on in game...? Wait. They're only decorative? Crapular.

And your new name is SO much prettier, Caleliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiilya! And can I enter your contest please? I had this UBER gorgeous black bald shiny model I'd love to enter!

*shells out more money* Here's so the Palestinian terrorists leave you alone!!

And who is Ayn Galt? :?


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: Enelar on 2007 April 08, 14:30:54
*dying of laughter*

You, my friend, win the internet today.


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: RedLove on 2007 April 08, 15:07:10
I think she's making fun of HChangeri,  Saffy. When she said that she would get her husband to hack us but he is  too "ZOMG IMPORTANT!!!" and then she said something about John Galt....I still don't know who that is...


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: calalily on 2007 April 08, 16:22:40
Yeah - it is HChangeri - she's got that notice about "pulling a John Galt" - who is a character out of an Ayn Rand novel.  It's in the hate mail section on the front.

PS. I luz winning the internets. :D


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: Hecubus on 2007 April 08, 16:47:08
OH MY FRICKIN' GOD you're killin' me, Calalily!!

I bow down before your superiorness.



PS: The novel in question is Atlas Shrugged - far too long for a quick read (far too long for a long read, even...think War and Peace PLUS Ulysses). It is a bit odd, but it's also quite reflective of the objectivism movement (http://www.objectivistcenter.org/index.asp) (aka radical libertarianism)...and it's her most famous work as it is a masterpiece.

For a better sense of Rand and these ideas, read or watch The Fountainhead - the book (http://www.answers.com/topic/the-fountainhead) is shorter and much more to the point, and the film (http://www.answers.com/topic/the-fountainhead-film) stars Gary Cooper, and how wrong can that be? Or...check out this summary (http://www.answers.com/topic/atlas-shrugged) of Atlas Shrugged.

I personally don't agree with all of her ideas; however, I do find some of them quite compelling...and at the very least worthy of consideration.

Thus endeth the lesson. ;-)


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: Jojoba on 2007 April 08, 16:57:14
Why did I badly misread that as Atwa Shrugged??! My poor brain...


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: chlyn on 2007 April 08, 16:59:48
Quote from: "CaptainJojoba"
Why did I badly misread that as Atwa Shrugged??! My poor brain...


LOOOL @ CaptainJ!


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: Anouk on 2007 April 08, 17:14:12
Quote from: "CaptainJojoba"
Why did I badly misread that as Atwa Shrugged??! My poor brain...


Some unhealthy obsession... or real loooooooove! :P


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: Jojoba on 2007 April 08, 17:18:55
Quote from: "Nouk"
Quote from: "CaptainJojoba"
Why did I badly misread that as Atwa Shrugged??! My poor brain...


Some unhealthy obsession... or real loooooooove! :P


Oh Nouk, you have found me out! I love Atwa..it is I who want her shitty Egyptian rubbish!! O woe me!

BARF


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: Anouk on 2007 April 08, 17:26:10
Quote from: "CaptainJojoba"
Quote from: "Nouk"
Quote from: "CaptainJojoba"
Why did I badly misread that as Atwa Shrugged??! My poor brain...


Some unhealthy obsession... or real loooooooove! :P


Oh Nouk, you have found me out! I love Atwa..it is I who want her shitty Egyptian rubbish!! O woe me!

BARF


I'm sure she has more to offer than that... I hear she bakes excellent cookies! *wink wink nudge nudge*


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: Jojoba on 2007 April 08, 17:31:35
:shock:  

How do you know about the *ahem* 'cookies'?! Nouk, have you been fornicating with my beloved Atwa?!?

Thats it - Atwa, I know you are reading this - its over biatch! *storms off in a stormy mood*


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: Anouk on 2007 April 08, 17:37:49
Mine... all mine....

*chomps on delicous sandcookies*


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: chlyn on 2007 April 08, 18:34:24
Somebody in another forum whose opinion I respect has attributed the demise of SimsHost to the PMBD booty.

I have been simming for years and only just stumbled on this site via a link at Cat and Susim's site; how well known is the booty?


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: Ensign EO on 2007 April 08, 18:51:04
Plenty of people on S2C know of the booty because there was an uproar about some horrid, horrid site distributing the hard, hard work of paysite owners.  And most people from MATY are familiar with it as well.

I'd say it's pretty well-known.  If not infamous.


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: calalily on 2007 April 08, 19:20:14
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OH MY FRICKIN' GOD you're killin' me, Calalily!!

I bow down before your superiorness.


It will soon disappear - my husband handbakes fresh hot cross buns for me for breakfast every Easter, and it seems to give me a bit of pepper in my step.

But needless to say - I read everything.  I'm not so impressed with Ayn Rand myself.  
 
I presume that HChangeri was talking about this bit:

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"I can tell you who John Galt is...John Galt is the Prometheus who changed his mind." After being torn by vultures for bringing men fire, Francisco says, Galt "withdrew his fire until men withdraw their vultures."


Cause you know - recoloured sims cabinets are as essential in your life as the gift of fire from Prometheus - great analogy Changeri *thumbsup*

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Somebody in another forum whose opinion I respect has attributed the demise of SimsHost to the PMBD booty.

I have been simming for years and only just stumbled on this site via a link at Cat and Susim's site; how well known is the booty?


Personally, I don't think that PMBD has anything to do with it - it's just something for people to hang their hat on and say - "Oh, it's not cause it's crappy content, with updating as recent as 2005 - it's the booty - you did it - all of you dirty pirates, and it's your fault".

And of the two sites at SimsHost - only 2 are in the booty - so really, they don't seem to have been a big feature in the community, and certainly the hardest to navigate, and the crappiest of the crappy, from what I've seen.  Has anyone here been to Killersims - which was well known in Sims1?  

Unfortunately, there is too much free content on offer for people to search for obscure paysites that don't update. I remember checking Killersims as soon as I got Sims 2 - nothing I could find, or want to download really (considering I have approaching 20.Gb waiting to be installed, that says something - I play Maxis and a couple of hacks - that's it).

SimsHost biggest enemy has mostly been itself - it showed the community in Sims1 that paysites were acceptable, and very financially viable - and so they shot themselves in the foot - with hosting so cheap you can afford your own site, why let the SimsHost people line their pockets, when you could line your own  :wink:

Never the less, I say take the killmark and be damned - take credit even when credit is not due.


Title: Re: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: prattle on 2007 April 09, 21:37:15
Quote from: "Mufushu"
Quote from: "Pescado"
Check this out:
http://www.insimenator.net/showthread.php?t=42552


I can't tell if that guy is making fun of pro-paysite arguments or is serious.  :roll:

That's Greg's sense of humor. :?
I remember when he was starting up SimsHost back in the Sims 1 days, and he believed (or at least said in public) that he was doing a service to the Sims community, by helping sites that needed assistance to pay the hosting bills. It didn't exactly work out that way.


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: Enelar on 2007 April 09, 22:17:47
Isn't she forgetting that the whole "torn by vultures" deal was inflicted upon Prometheus because Zeus told him NOT to give the humans fire? I don't know if that was mentioned in <i>Atlas Shrugged</i> but it's how the actual myth goes. Basically Prometheus went against Zeus wishes out of pity for humanity so he was punished by having an eagle (not a vulture) pluck at his liver for eternity. It was his own fault for doing what he was told not to, it had nothing to do with men setting vultures upon him.. so the whole analogy makes no sense to me as a student of mythology.

<i>John Galt is a man disgusted that non-productive members of society use laws and guilt to leech from the value created by productive members of society. </i>

Using laws and guilt? Kinda like Paysite owners?  :roll:


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: Aquamarine on 2007 April 09, 22:46:44
It's been discussed in various old-ish threads how HChangeri seems to lack basic reading comprehension, so I wouldn't attempt to make sense of her ravings. Bad for the brain.  :lol:


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: mogran on 2007 April 09, 23:20:06
maybe this has already been said about hchangeri and her affinity for atlas shrugged and john galt...just throw pointy objects at me if it already has, but it really pisses me off when people use ayn rand's philosophy or whatever to show how smart and super awesome they are. i've read both atlas shrugged and the fountainhead and the whole thought process behind them is so elitist for lack of a better term. only people that fit specific qualifications of super capitalism and intelligence and particular aesthetic principles need apply. minus the super capitalism, what does hchangeri bring to the table? there's no way she would be one of ayn rand's chosen...


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: Captain Feathersword on 2007 April 10, 11:40:26
I don't know if it's been said, but I have certainly thought that too.
*NB* I haven't read any Rand, only about her so this is from an almost completely uninformed position.
The philosophy seems to be that the highly skilled and able (self diagnosed "betters") should be completely devoid of altruism and philanthropic tendencies. Her incredible ego encourages her to use this philosophy to justify her selfishness but I fail to see how what HChangeri does qualifies her for this and the level of recompense she expects exceeds her abilities and contributions by such a degree as makes her love of Rand more laughable.


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: Pescado on 2007 April 10, 11:49:15
Quote from: "Enelar"
Using laws and guilt? Kinda like Paysite owners?  :roll:

Ah, but the law isn't actually on the side of paysite owners, so all they really have is guilt. I, however, as a black-hearted pirate, have no guilt.


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: Lourdes on 2007 April 10, 13:43:43
Quote from: "Captain Feathersword"
I don't know if it's been said, but I have certainly thought that too.
*NB* I haven't read any Rand, only about her so this is from an almost completely uninformed position.
The philosophy seems to be that the highly skilled and able (self diagnosed "betters") should be completely devoid of altruism and philanthropic tendencies. Her incredible ego encourages her to use this philosophy to justify her selfishness but I fail to see how what HChangeri does qualifies her for this and the level of recompense she expects exceeds her abilities and contributions by such a degree as makes her love of Rand more laughable.


That is the basic premise of The Fountainhead.  However, HChangeri seems to identify more with Atlas Shrugged, different book whole other set of ideals. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlas_Shrugged

Its not an ideal of elitism or being the "elitist chosen". It doesn't matter if you are Bill Gates, a blue collar worker, or a granny who bakes and sells pies.


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: Shadow on 2007 April 10, 15:47:50
Is there going to be a kill mark for CocoSims?


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: Jojoba on 2007 April 11, 08:53:29
Quote from: "Shadow"
Is there going to be a kill mark for CocoSims?


Already been a killmark  for CocoSims (http://phorum.mustnotbenamed.com/viewtopic.php?p=20478&highlight=coco#20478)  :D  Huzzah!!


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: Pescado on 2007 April 11, 11:38:20
We didn't get a proper killmark for those because we have to be implicated in some element of their closing. In this case, the shirt gives us the credit.


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: Rabbit on 2007 April 27, 13:03:02
If you've got a free simshost acount you can download all the pay stuff for free until it closes. So it's kinda worth getting a free account now.....


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: Pescado on 2007 April 27, 15:08:49
When it closes, that'll be an issue for Graveyard.


Title: Huzzah! New Killmark coming?
Post by: Plum on 2007 April 29, 04:30:06
Everything you'll ever need to know about Atlas Shrugged. (http://atlasshrugged.ytmnd.com/)