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Seriously, some of the 'donation' sets I've been looking at have been flat out ugly and/or badly made. Now I can half understand paying for quality stuff, but seriously? There is a LOT of stuff that looks terrible! I have to go look at the sites to make sure this is stuff I'll even let in my game.

There's no accounting for taste.

I just repeat that, over and over.

Dunno. I've noticed a lot of things look fine in previews but when I get them in my game, I want to scream in horror.

I'd call Photoshop on this, but the same thing happens to me and free stuff as well.

This probably explains why I've only ever subscribed to three sites (two of which, I promptly lost the files after my sub was up in a fiery computer accident). I HATE wasting money, so I'm very discerning (read: obsessive) when it comes to stuff I'll actually pay for. Hell, even with the existence of this place, I'd be willing to donate to sites that consistently produce quality stuff as a "thank you" gesture. [/end mini-rant]

Anyway, that doesn't explain why there are probably a couple people out there who have paid for, say, Carla Niven stuff in the past and now need therapy.

I've never seen anything worth paying to download.  I've found many free sites to donate to, but nothing I'd pay for.

 I would say anybody who pays for the Carla Niven stuff needs not only a therapist but an intervention. :shock:

 I've checked out her site and I was shocked at how butt-ugly the clothes are.   :o

It never ceases to amaze me many people in this community always seem to have their checkbooks open and ready to pay money. EA knows this, that's why we've started getting the stuff packs and Holiday packs, and packs that add 20 items on top of last year's Holiday pack.  :roll:

'Cause of daddy's creditcard. :lol:

There's always going to be someone who's willing to pay for anything. Crap or not. Except for Carla Niven.

And small EPs....

I've always been tempted to see if I can't scrounge up some money to dona--er, pay sites like Peggy that EVERYONE just seems to love, but I could never be bothered.  And have since been much less inclined to bother to pay once I discovered I cared so little about the "morality" of a practise like file-sharing.  It has been, and will always be, just a game to me, so I don't really take the people flippin' out over the horrendous thievery going on here ( :wink: ) very seriously.

And I absolutely hate it when I look at something in game and realise it looks like shit compared to the preview that I ogled at for the couple of seconds it took to download.

Mostly I think people pay for stuff that may or may not be any good is usually because the item is made by a prolific artist so it MUST be good and/or it has to be good, otherwise it wouldn't be a pay item, right?  :roll:  They would NEVER use the money for anything other than bandwidth... All paysites are honest and really do just use the money for the benefit of the site...

A-fucking-men. That is precisely what I've been trying to hammer into some of my fellow creator's heads. This is a game. I hate it when people get all uptight "OMG, Sims = serious business!"

THIS IS A GAME.

That is my biggest complaint about a lot of CC.  Most of the CC I have come across does NOT look as good in game as the Maxis stuff.  I hate the pasted on look and wonky textures that so many of these clothes and objects have.  I recently did a major overhaul of my downloads folder and got rid of everything that didn't look great and serve some function in the game (I mean honestly how many deco items that are supposed to be things like toasters or soccer balls does one need clogging up the sculpture catalogue?).  And guess what, there is very little left.  

It probably doesn't help that I don't like the sparse, monochrome, modern looking furniture that seems to be a favorite among CC creators.  I don't have that kind of stuff in my real home and I don't like it for my sim's homes either.  I like nice traditonal furniture like LovingTouchDesigns has.  And I would never pay for clothes since there are SCADS of them for free (I adore your site liegenschonheit.  Yup, I like gothy clothes and make-up for my sims and traditional homes in my game...it makes for quite the combo!).  So in a nutshell I agree that the vast quanity of CC is not worth paying for (I don't think we should have to pay for any of it, it's just that most of it is crap on top of that fact)...just my opinion of course.  ;)

Mat

i love filesharing esp. when i dont know what the quality of a sites donation sets are going to be.. most sites are pretty bad, but i do love HolySimoly i paid for their two donation sets, they have high quality shit, they dont charge you up the ass, and anytime i lost something or had an idea or problem they were really nice. But to me they are one in a million!  :)

Some sites are pretty decent, and not everyone who has pay files on their sites are greedy assholes. Holy Simoly makes kick ass stuff, and the two donation packs that they have are full of really good stuff. My big beef isn't really with sites that offer a couple high quality donation sets, then have a whole lot of free stuff. When they do that, an arguement for the whole bandwidth thing is a bit more plausable, because they aren't really raking it in hand over fist off of tons of overpriced items.

Of course, I'd prefer that all sims content was free, but I'd rather concentrate on stopping the big pay sites than the guys with a couple of donation files. Just my two cents worth.

Methinks they pay because most of sim-gamers are noobs into gaming and don't know such things are supposed to be free, and/or are too lazy to google for free sims stuff.

Those moneygrubbing lamers of paysites are a disgrace for all the gamers. I'm so delighted to find the place that's dedicated to piss them off! :mrgreen:

Also, paying for an item in the community is becoming a status symbol among younger players.  :lol:

True and sadly enough it doesn't stop there!

Owning a paysite is becoming a status symbol as well, and some people  whose age I will not comment  :lol: believe paysite creators get more respect from the community than those with free stuff whose stuff "gets taken for granted" Gee, if that's true, I wonder why almost every comment we get on Noukiesims includes a thankyou for being free... 8)

LOL you should know the rude comments I get by PM, like:

"I'm SO angry! I can't get that hair because the MESH aint included! WHY IS THAT!!"

"I WANT THE GUY IN THE PICTURE! I WANT THE GUY IN THE PICTURE! I WANT THE GUY IN THE PICTURE! I WANT THE GUY IN THE PICTURE! I WANT THE GUY IN THE PICTURE! "

"Ewww don't make pink hair! That's so ugly!"

No need guiessing their ages.

Ok I guess my statement needs revising. Every intelligent, sensible comment made by someone who isn't a preteen/hormonal/just stupid  :lol:

Although I do remember the Imogen Steenis craze. People have even PMed me about sending him to them.

 :roll: Oh please don't even talk about that! Makes you totally avoid that thread on s2c.  :o

Imogen Steenis, I ask stupidly?

Isn't he the winning model for NoukieSims?

Is he the sim with elf ears on the first page of NoukieSims? If that is him I admit he is pretty cute, though I wouldn't send someone an annoying PM filled with, "I must have him!" LOL!

Mat

Not just Younger players. Older ones do it as well.
Seems everyone is trying to get what everyone else does not have so they can show pictures of it.



Wee

I have two pay-site subscriptions going at any given time and have purchased download packs from a number of other sites.  I have a complex system of figuring out what the value of any given set/item subscription is to me before I pay so I rarely feel cheated.

I'm fortunate that I don't have a lot of costly habits or hobbies so I don't feel bad about paying for some things that I really like for a game that I devote a lot of time to.  I still spend about half as much a year as my boyfriend does on cigarettes, and game objects can't kill me.  

I also like the EA objects/textures a lot.  I know purchasing the stuff packs just encourages EA to make more so to make up for it, I give my replaced EP/SP discs to my sister so she doesn't have to buy it herself.

Ahhh, he's pretty indeed!! But yes, not enough to become an obsessive demanding 12 year-old over...

He is handsome! :D Very yummy looking.

I also like EA/Maxis items. There`s just not enough recolors of their objects, so it's quite limited. That's why I adore HolySimoly, their texture are awesome. I don't really like ReflexSims, PeggySims or VitaSims for the objects: their meshes have potential (some aren't though), their textures look bad imo.

I totally agree! My main beef with Maxis things is not that they don't look good (because I personally think they look great), but that I would like more recolors and furniture in the matching sets.  They have gotten better at this.  There are a lot of nice recolors for the furniture from OFB on.  And would it kill them to make a couple of more curtains? LOL! Yup I also agree that Holy Simoly's furniture is just as great looking as Maxis furniture.  I think I have all of their furniture sets in my game.  The Arizona set and the Basico dining room set are must haves for me.  

The thing is a lot of sites' items look great on the site...such as VitaSims.  Yet once I download it and get it into the game the textures are just ugh! That is one of the many reasons I don't feel bad at all about getting this stuff for free.  I got all of the VitaSim sets that I wanted for free and then promptly took them all out of my game because they just didn't look good to me.  I'm so glad I didn't waste my money paying for them.

Mat

The Sims, because gold mining just gets so darned dull.

I agree. Most pictures that I have seen are too small imo to really see the details.

And yes, more curtains from Maxis would be good, and more matching sets!! That'd be awesome.

I use HolySimoly the most in all my games. :D

That is so true as well, because at one time in the Sim Community, most paysites had nice stuff.  Most paysites were well know.  Now it seems like everyone and there brother has one, whether their content is worth being paid for or not.  

Whether people pay for crap or not doesn't necessarily mean it is better than free stuff, it could just be that gamers are stupid or inexperienced in the sims community.  Look at some of the comments that arrive from experienced simmers (IE. Why is Pescado allowed to have a paysite?)  Only true talent can earn you respect throughout the community, if you got, you got it, if you don't, placing a price tag on something doesn't make it look any better.  I personally respect creators who upload their work for free more than the ones that make me pay a hefty price tag for it.

VitaSims stuff looks nice, but it bleeds into the walls! How can you charge for something that isn't top notch quality?

Maybe there should be a review forum on donation items... so people are warned what is good and not... that way no one would have to waste their time and money.  :lol:

My feelings exactly!  The donation crap from Reflex Sims does that.  It looks good until you get up close.

Yeah, nice idea, but try finding someone the paying community as a whole would listen to, who is objective enough to do that...Most people out there are the 'OMG that's relly good, thank you!!' without even looking, types, when it comes to CC...And you can imagine the uproar if someone had the truth told about their stuff, then people would start boycotting it cos it said bad things about their friend's stuff, and BLAH.

One man's trash is another man's treasure?

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder?

Some shit ain't worth letting a puppy piss on?

Yeah, I think they all apply in one way or another.

I think ratings should be given on a negative scale, starting at 0.  

0 means it'll do the job.
-1 eh it'll work from afar
-2 whoa nelly who thought of that?
-3 only the overly-obsessed-must-have-everything person has this in their game
-4 you must have a bad graphics card to play with this
-5 don't even bother, not even puppy piss can save this one

Two words: Anonymous blog.

It doesn't matter if the paying community as a whole will listen to an anonymous blogger at first, really; if the reviews are as honest as possible word will get out about it and people will start looking to it for information.

Said blogger should probably disable comments on the blog or more or less ignore them for their own peace of mind. ;)

People on S2C are always asking about whom they should donate to--no one would ever admit they downloaded shit.  So pointing them to an objective, anonymous blog would be more useful to the people who really are looking for a good buy, and not a good story.

Hooray, you're Ephraim!!

But yes. Anonymous blog is a good idea. Especially as people flock towards anonymous stuff, cos of the MYSTERY!! :D

But, if you can claim an object in a house you show as "unavailable" your status rises even higher. Unavailable items are a much better status symbol than saying its from a paysite, but having pay item does mean your part of the "in crowd".  :roll:

Seen you have been to simbella's too!

Share the link when you're done.  :D

It would also be a help for filesharers to help decide whether downloading or looking for a certain item would be worth it.

I don't give a flying rat's ass about "unavailable" content.  :roll:  Aikea Guinea (the lady who does Deception Pass) makes a lot of stuff that is only hers, and that's all well and good with me, but it's so annoying to hear people constantly bitch about how they can't get their hands on the stuff she creates.  If you don't have access to something--tough cookies.  There's a plethora of other CC that you can download.  :roll:

She also seems to have most of the stuff I remember her having uploaded taken down, except for a ring mesh.

Rating is overrated. :roll:

What you need is take a good picture of an object, enough to see its details. Note its flaws as well, i.e. animation is good or not.

For example, for a hair set, you could write if it's:

1) 5 basic colors (a REAL red, please?? not pink!)
2) All ages (Elder color properly done, etc.)
3) Properly binned (eyebrows, family GUID, etc.)?
4) Animated
5) Neck gap

See where I'm going? It's long though... but it's the best way, imo, to write something as objective as possible.

The only sites I've ever considered worth paying for are TSR because of the enormous variety and quantity of items they offer, and Simslice because their stuff really is unique in both form and function.  Too many paysites offer blocky, upscale, minimalist modern furniture just like the next site's blocky, upscale, minimalist modern furniture (often poorly made to boot,) a thousand and one ways to make your Sims look like anorexic beach-dwelling silicon-laden prostitutes, and walls/floors/lots no more different or interesting than anything I could make myself.

Apart from the modest selection Maxis offers, there's a regrettable shortage of nice, reasonably priced, hey-I've-got-one-of-those content.  I'd consider donating to a site filled with nicely made, basic everyday clothing and furniture like what I can find at Wal-mart.  To me, prosperity doesn't mean having fancy expensive stuff, it means having all the ordinary comfortable respectable stuff I need in good shape, and that's what I want for my Sims!

Yeah, that's good, thorough and to the point, which is what is needed in this case, rather than saying 'omfg it's so ugly!!' or giving it scores out of 10 or whatever...*nods* I would actually be happy to help in any project like this, I feel it's time I actually did something, rather than just sit and bitch...

And BootStrapBill, I agree with you fully there! Hooray!

Rumor has it there's this chicky-baby over at MATY that has some basic adult female t-shirts in the works if she ever gets off her ass and finishes them...and you can best bet they'll be free ;)

I'll put another bug in her ear about 'em...

Seriously, people over MTS2 would give 4 or 5 stars on 5 just because they like it... and before they even download it. And really, some people would just say "iz good cos itz [insert name]". That's why the feature was removed.

I've written something about Maxis before the crash (I think it was lost within other posts). I do like their objets, I think they're great -- it's just too limited. I really like HolySimoly because their stuff is almost like Maxis, you know?

Motoki had said (I think it's lost as well) that some paysites owner just steal 3D stuff from other creators and covert them for Sims 2. Then, they just slap some poor textures to the items. It's not everyone, but some are doing it.

Especially a note if the elder is grey or colored, I once was making a video for a friend about one of her roleplay characters and pet dog. I let her help me design the sim, and when I got to the end of the short film, I wanted to do a touching scene with the elder dog and the sim becoming an elder, only to be stunned when she spinned and... almost nothing changed. The hair is the biggest clue to age from afar.

Yeah, I've witnessed this so often, it's like...'WTF ARE YOU DOING, YOU WORTHLESS SHEEP, there's a zillion posts right there saying it breaks games and you're STILL saying it's the best thing EVAR' *kills liek woah*

Yami, yeah, that kind of bothers me, with how vile Maxis make Elders, I try to make the best of it, and accept, but gawd, they could at least try LIGHTENING the shade of elder hair (I personally like when they do that, if a hair's for some reason, purple for example, it turns a pale lilac on elder stage, or whatever)...or at the other extreme, does NOTHING, and just assigns a plain Maxis hair for elder...

I'm so with you. I HATE the clothes that everyone makes. Most of them are stuff I wouldn't be caught dead wearing.

Objects I take either/or, simply because I do like the minimilist style, but I can find other stuff out there that's not.

I'm with you on the Walmart thing.

I'm not into fantasy characters or remaking my favourite anime or whatever. I'm not into making fashion models or Hollywood mansions.

I just want my sims to live their lives more or less like I do. Some of my furnature is shabby. Some is nice. My hair is NEVER teased out into some godforsaken rats nest. My clothes are generally jeans, shirts, sweaters, nice skirts, ect. I have no need or desire to dress my sims like cheap hookers.

I'm sick of having to wade through piles and piles of crap just to find one thing that looks good. That was why I was so tickled when I found the pull-out sofa bed from TRS on here. That is exactly the kinds of things I want.

Thank you. It is so hard to find NORMAL, non fashion-model-esque clothes. It's like these creators are living out their private dreams of being able to cram themselves into those tiny jeans, sweaters, skirts, etc. when almost NO ONE CAN. I've been trying to make my novel into a sims world and it's so goddamned hard to find what I need because so many of my characters are just average, everyday people. Blarhghdskl

I like clothes to be pretty, I admit, generally something a bit less plain than just, jeans and t-shirt....but I can't stand FASHION, or miniscule skanky, silky, tiny things/huge bulky 'couture' items....Yeah, I guess stuff that PEOPLE wear, not 'celebrities' out clubbing, or something...

Now I will allow my sims to glam it up for a night out or a wedding.

However, I find it a tad unnerving to have a sim pop out of the shower and spin into a Las Vegas showgirl costume with hooker boots (that is, unless she actually WAS a Las Vegas showgirl wearing hooker boots).

It is just weird to see them doing the more banal activites in haute couture. Clubbing? Sure. Scrubbing toilets? Not so much.

Yes Lauren

Wow / what insight you have   :roll:

I am glad you made all us think about this burning topic .

Don't be shy to share more of your deep thoughts  :wink:

All women look like they're wearing a corset.

I guess a lot of creators wish they were Chanel/D&G designers or stuff like that, you know? That's why you see replica of everything in the high fashion industry. You can simply take a look at the layout of their websites... :lol:

I really hope you're getting some sort of pleasure out of randomly insulting people, (badly, I might add) I really do.

Too bad we can't ship Vulture to RL :P

I'm assuming English isn't their first language.  As such they've never heard a "yo momma" joke.

Trashcans with eyepatches would be adorable!!

I might be a few pages behind but I wanted to say my two cents about the whole "MUST. HAVE. MODEL. IN. PICTURES" craze.
I JUST DON'T GET IT. The whole point of the sims is to have your own sims, not the same headmesh and texture as the next download-crazy girlie next door. I see Noukiesims model guy and go "aw. I wish I could make hot sims like him. maybe I'll try.", sure i inevitably completely forget that I like him until next time I visit the site when I find myself thinking "aw. I wish I could make hot sims like him. maybe I'll try." Lather, rinse, repeat. Hey, I'm a blonde.

Whenever I've posted anything on S2C, I get PM's about uploading my sims, even if i barely changed the facial archetype my mouse landed on to randomise my sim.

It's a pet peeve of mine to see something uploaded on MTS2 with a vaguely attractive model and to have to wade through "OMG UPLOAD HIM."

*back in my box*

*sniff* I feel so honoured! Vulture validated my life by telling me that my opinion was of importance! Now I can find the strength to live my life for just one more day.

Oh, wait. I live in the real world. As you were.

I know right, Vulzard has never noticed meeeee, I don't know what I'm doing wrong, you're so lucky!!!

people what's RL?

I agree to some extent. A couple of my sims have been asked for on InSim and I'm not sure how I feel about that just yet... but I tend to see unique-looking sims as being worth the same as a unique article of clothing or a decent hair mesh. I think other people do as well. It's sort of difficult to work with the base faces and certain skintones and get someone looking *exactly* how you want.

I can't say I've downloaded many sims myself, because I know they don't look as good in Bodyshop as they do in the pictures. And I'd rather make my own, to be honest. Also, I've seen people bypass the clothes model demand thing by just blurring or cropping the head out in the pics. I'd wager anyone showing off their clothes with an attractive model sim is considering uploading it anyway.

I do like to sometimes download whole sims as a starting point...like, an alternative to the Maxis archetypes, and sometimes people really truly do create a very pretty face, but I don't think I've ever obsessed over getting a sim someone's made...I don't see the point..

I feel the same way, jessrocket.

Real life?  :wink:

For MATY denizens, it refers to Retardo Land.

I used to pay for things I thought would make the game better until I witnessed the Temper Tantrums being thrown by money hungry *cough* artists/creators (if you can choke that out) :roll: Why? A: Im too damn busy to ever think of making anything, tools provided or not and B: Im not a kid and I didn't think 5 or 6 bucks here or there for "good" crap would break me. Well, ya know what??? Screw that! :twisted:

Downloading sims freaks me out. I don't know why, maybe because I'm a tarribul *elitist* and really dislike the idea of so many different people having the same sim. Though, I have downloaded a sim here and there for the custom content and oepu's Devon Aoki (with a little body shop tweaking) is in my game.

But, uh, topic. Right. I have no idea why people pay for anything, I can't think of one paysite I would give my money to at all. I subbed to Peggy once, but, yeah, what most people have said is on point. It's not as superamazingawesomefantastic!!!111one when you get it in-game. Now, there are some sites with donation sets/extras I would cough up the cash for. Around the Sims 2 comes to mind for me.

I fell into the trap of donating or getting 1 month subscriptions because some of the content looked awsome in the previews....I was severely dissapointed and cursed myself once I saw the shit in-game. Now I know better, and will never fall into that trap again.

You don't scrub your toilet in full make-up and hair while wearing three inch heels and a skirt that half your ass is hanging out of?  What the hell is wrong with you?!?!  :roll:

Just teasing, in case it wasn't clear :-)  And yeah.  What REALLY fries me is the teen outfits that are hoochie-mama-wear.  If hubbie and I have a girl, she won't be wearing some of the outfits I've seen.  At least not at home.

You leave a whole half of your ass covered!? Prude.

Doh!  I try to make up for it by having my shirt expose all my cleavage plus a nipple....  sorry.

DO NOT WANT.

*giggles*

Ah, so much better. But with a whole half-ass covered... geez. It better be pierced. And I hope your weave is bright pink, for chrissakes.

Dammit, no.  I can tell that I'm not holding up the regulations required to be a SoCal Fashionista :lol:

Good lord 'n' butter NO!!

Thats what I wear when I am weeding the garden.

Silly Avic.

I wear my platform hooker boots and peacock feathers on my butt when I scrub the toilet.

Girl - thanks for that.  I love a good laugh, and that did it.  Hubby would be looking at me funny for laughing at the 'puter if he were still up.

I think we need to get a consensus on appropriate wear for the grocery store, running errands around town, etc.  God forbid that we don't dress the part ;-)

Clearly you have not seen the terrible stuff made for the child and toddler Sims. *shudders*

What?!  I don't want to know.

Truly makes me glad I mostly restrict any downloads I have to furnishings.

Any one who can garden with only half an ass showing is ok in my book. Cleaning toilets in heels makes her a goddess.
For fear of arrest in my country, I cannot tell you how they pay their bills in my game.

I must admit that in the old days of Sims 1, I subscribed for one month to both TSR and 8th deadly sim. Mostly because they had a bunch of something that I thought would be cool to have in game. But it really wasn't worth paying for the whole month when I found out that the donation stuff wasn't updated very often. Needless to say, I've never subscribed to another pay site again.

I pay enough to buy the damn game and expansion and stuff packs. I'm not paying for something that a player makes.

*hoists the flag* Arr, mateys! (http://www.mm-bbs.org/style_emoticons/megamix_light/pirate_ok.gif)

Maybe we should start up a Carla Niven Therapy Fund.  Designed especially for those who were traumatized when they watched the *gag* fashion show.

Damn.  Thinking about that fashion show, I threw up a bit in my mouth again.

*shudder*

Maybe we should start up a Carla Niven Therapy fund, designed for HER, to break her of the idea that any of her stuff, her site and her fashion show are any good, or worth $15...

Rarely do we get to experiance delusions of grandeur of such magnitude. It warms the wee cockles of my heart to see such an elaborate attempt at style and grace fall so short of the mark.

I showed that "fashion show" to my husband. This is a direct quote.

"Uhhh. What the fuck was that?"

Stop it. Stop it. You're starting to make me wish I had bothered to watch it. Now I don't know the fun I'm missing.  :(

Hee. I actually found the fashion show incredibly funny, like some of my favorite sim movies...If only she knew it was a joke. (She has to use every special effect on her computer in this one video....EEK! Don't mention the "fashions" please!) :lol:

Of course she used special effects.  That was so she could gloss over the craptacular mistakes she made, and get the added benefit in places of making us miss the actual clothing on display.

Well, I admit, she did not gloss over that little runway accident where two of the girls bashed into each other and had to sort it out. *snicker*

I thoroughly enjoyed the her "fashion show" in a sadistic, eye-clawing sort of way. I love how she seems to think that slapping hideous transition effect-y things will make the whole video pretty! :D

(This may just be my dumbness...but what the hell is FIER anyway? Does it stand for something?)

That was something I was wondering too, actually. Maybe she just couldn't spell 'fear', which is what she's hoping to instill, with her collection...

To be perfectly honest, I hardly download any of the booty from this site, and I certainly don't pay the original 'creators' for it, because most of the stuff is total crap. I am extremely picky about what I download, even from free sites, and I really don't see why people go crazy over some of the shite that's floating around out there. Peggy's hair is some of the worst that I've seen, and I wouldn't download it even if somebody paid ME. This whole paysite phenomenon truly boggles the mind.

Oh yes, and Carla Niven MUST BE DESTROYED! I only made it through a couple of her(?) pages, nevermind the 'Fashion Show,' before I had to close my browser in sheer disgust at the badly-made textures and truly horrendous colour-combinations. My retinas - they're burning!

See, when I told the sheeple at S2C that I tend to become very picky about clothing when my downloads folder gets bloated, one of them asked me what type of clothing I liked.

What does that have ANYTHING to do with looking at the quality of my downloads?  Sorry I don't blindly download every single piece of CC...  I used to, when I was new to it and was like, "Ooh, shiny".

(Edited because I always forget words.)

Oh, I was like that too. It always looks good on pictures. I'm also very picky now. I've hm... "banned" myself from visiting certain websites because I already know that their stuff would not look so good on my Sims or I would never use them.

Boris,.I don't know where you saw it the "FIER" thing, but I can tell you it's a French word which means "proud" (for males only). It can also mean "trust"... does it appear in the so-called fashion show?

Well that "OMGZ UBER Fäshiön shöu fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiir"  took like forever to load.

Anyone notice that one "model", particularrrrrrrry blonde, is on the stage the longest. Rubbing her butt and blowing those icky "I have bad breath, smell it too" kisses. I bet it's the sim of Carla herself. The same one who dashes out in the end.  :roll:

Yeah, if one's brave enough to get to about halfway through it, it randomly scrolls across the screen in giant letters, at least twice...:(

More likely she misspelled FIRE. The entire thing needs to be burninated.

Didn't you know? FIER is a Dutch consultancy firm. :wink:

http://www.fier.net/

Must not be very good if they're consulting Carla Niven...