PMBD

http://www.zadiesims.com/

I don't know, maybe you already know about this one.
The clothes there are really average. I mean I can't find ANYTHING that I might want to pay for.
1,5$ per item.. is she crazy?

I think I'm going to make similar dresses for my site for free to kick her ass.

That stuff is very Carla Niven.  I don't think that it's very nice, or very well done.  And I'm sure that I've seen them somewhere else - checked Carla Niven, and they didn't match - has anyone else seen them elsewhere?

Some of it's alright, but it really grinds my gears that she expects people to shell out money for shit that is A) generic and B) not even fully shown in previews. :roll: Get with it, d00d.

Edit: Cala, some of the textures look like Stajl to me.

I think I've seen the similar pink nightie somewhere..
I remember some site, also pay, there was a collection of pink underwear and nighties.. but I can't remember the name of it. Damn, there are really a LOT of paysites!
The files are not so bad, but they are not worth paying also.  :?

Its decent quality overall (i.e. not just a picture tacked onto some piece of clothing), but nothing worth paying for. And the styles and colors of the clothing are all, well, rather common. I can't imagine there aren't 500 pink nightgowns with black lace in the sims world that aren't available for free elsewhere.

Also, $1.50 per outfit. The only thing I can think of it "LOL".

she is actively removing any guestbook comments that dont completely kiss her ass.
i had looked at the site earlier, saw bluesoup's comments and some other ones that werent openly hostile but still discouraging her, and now *poof* all gone.
1 out of 7 guestbook entries still remains lol
I wonder how many discouraging comments shes going to read before she deletes the guestbook or gets a fucking clue that nobody is going to pay for that shit and she'd be better off being free

$1.50 per file? :shock:  Is she delusional? Who would pay that much for one outfit?

I'm afraid there are such "kids" out there who think expensive = quality.


I personally don't think they're too bad but ratproductions as well as simplystyling are better AND free.

she erased my message from the guestbook too :(
so sad, that she can't even face the true.

It's so obviously made to make money that it's pathetic. And I told her so. She'll just delete it again though.

Is it weird to feel bad for having your link featured on the same linkpage as Carla Niven???! :cry:

I don't really recognize any of the textures as things from Stajl though. Most of it looks photobased anyway...

It's not totally bad though, but I would never pay for it.

Is it just me or do paysites seem to be popping up with even more frequency - not to mention relative unknowns are just bam - opening paysites - without any sort of a reputation.

I'm banned for posting something about being even worse than rose and that she should hire a pro webdesigner for that money  :lol:

Really, she should  :roll:

They are, and apparently a reputation isn't needed to sell fugly shit on the internet *coughcarlanivencough* As long as someone's willing to pay, of course. And knowing that someone's shelled out the cash for this stuff makes me sad.

This is probably Carla's daughter. Lol since people stopped payin Carla (sarcasm) she couldn't feed her chilluns and now look, the poor kid has been forced to open up her OWN paysite!!!

Everyone go now to her guestbook and tell her what you think of her.

I asked her politely why she deleted messages and now I am banned from the GB.

I mentioned that she is stealing from EA, and needs to remove the pay items or else...1 minute later, it was deleted and I am banned.  She will be spending a bunch of time deleting the guestbook entries!

wow, the greed of this site is beyond belief   :shock:

TWO free items.....ELEVEN pay items

 :evil:

some if that is ok but as mentiond very Carla Niven i agree i wouldn't pay shit for that crap now whos wid me

(No 1 Hit List)
MUST DESTROY ZADIE  :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:

I didn't think the outfits were that ugly, I would probably download a couple of them....if they were free!  But there is no way I'm paying for them.   :roll:

I still find it unbelievable that someone actually paid for carla niven ... and worse yet, that people will actually take it when it's passed out for free. You couldn't pay me to put her shit in my game, free or not - just say no, kids!

Woman, just remove your guestbook before you spend more time deleting than sticking pictures on meshes... bad revenue.

I've seen things that look a lot worse, but I definetly wouldn't pay for those and especially not at $1.50/outfit.  :shock:  She's crazy!

Why do I get the feeling that these new paysites get most of their traffic from links that us pirates get directed to?  :lol:

I would have downloaded a couple of the outfits if they were free.
But definitely not paying for them.
There's nothing special or unique about them that I haven't seen before.

I told her that she was a coward for deleting guestbook entries and that there was better stuff available for free.

I got banned. XD

The only thing that bothers me about being banned is that I can't read what others are saying in the guestbook.  She can't stay online 24/7, so, the reading might be funny at times.  Oh well, life's a bitch.

on the homepage:
"Update February 1st: A brand new outfit >>>
I also want to thank you for welcoming me to the community, you all seem like a very positive bunch and I'm so happy to share my work with you. Make sure to check back every day because I have a lot of gorgeous stuff coming up!"

lol if we're so positive why is she deleting all our gb comments?
btw, shes not online right now, and there are two pages of gb comments for her to delete when she gets back online :)

I think that the last few entries in her Guestbook are way out of line. It is possible to make your point without doing the childish name calling crap.  Arguments are so much more compiling when you throw in the random bastard, bitch, and stinking low life when you want to persuade someone not to go the pay route. :roll:

Also, the constant reference to the poor quality of her clothings, which is purely subjective, as a reason she shouldn't be a pay site implies that if the quality is good then demanding money is ok...ummm, that's not what this site  is about, or it wasn't the last time I read the mission statement.

Not that anyone from here would write such drivel or act that childish or so I hope.

She deleted mine, and I thought that mine was rather constructive.  I have to wonder why she is linking to Carla Niven though (O.O)  Suspicious.

I could enter her guestbook after 10 minutes since I've got banned from there.
I've got an idea, how about I'll write her an ass-licking nice comment and leave a link to my homepage, and on my homepage I will write everything I think about her shitty site?  :D

Oh, I just seen her guestbook :)))
I think she died, because there are a lot of comments there :)

Interesting. I feel that way too.

Seems like everytime one of Cardrew's latest incarnations pops up and gets shot down, another one spawns. Hmmm.

She's celebrating 1000 visitors, without realising many visitors came from here with no intention whatsoever to ever pay for her items. She also took the guestbook out, but I'm not really surprised about that.

Cute clothes, not something I'd waste my money on, blah blah. Where do these people come from, that they think they can just appear from out of nowhere and charge for pixels?

1000 visitors? Whatever. There is no proof. She could've also said 1 Billion and I'd still not believe it. I hardly believe she had 100. Wonder how many stupid people paid already for that stuff. She's so annoying.

I can quite believe there were 1000 visitors.  Most from here.

My site was knocked on here for about 5 minutes (before deletion).  And my hit counter doubled.

Nothing like publicity in any shape or form.

I just sent her a constructive email asking her why the heck she's charging for clothing that looks like she stole from Carla Niven who stole from Boutique Emilie. Why do people think that they can charge for this when it's not even worth it? *shakes head* Insanity.

sheesh, I miss all the fun! I guess this is how it always goes:

6AM: someone finds new paysite with guestbook.
6:01: posts info on PMBD
6:05: first guestbook deletions
6:06-9:55: mass spamming of guestbook
10:00: guestbook is taken down
10:15: I sign online to check PMBD

I always miss the guestbooks >.> guess I should sign on before my morning class instead of after, neh?

She took down the guestbook.  :roll:

We know.

I know what this "1000 visitors" mean. It means 1000 page loads.
The counter on my site shows everyday about 2000-3000 page loads, but only 200-300 unique visitors at average.

Seriously, what effect to this pay site do you intend to change by leaving rude comments in a guestbook? She can delete them faster than it took you to write them. Is the master plan to keep her so busy she can't muster the effort to make a mediocre over-priced skin?

Pay sites have and will continue to flourish quite nicely because of market demands. The reality is that "the market" consists of you and me, and every other person. It's made up of many thousands of individuals pursuing their own agendas and interests by engaging in voluntary transactions. The market has no controlling mind, nor does it have sentience of its own.

The essential feature that MUST be emphasized here is that these transactions between individuals are VOLUNTARY.

The ONLY way site owners can obtain remuneration from work is when their work benefits someone else willing and able to pay for that benefit.

The belaboured ad nauseum argument as to whether the EULA allows them to benefit is as IRRELEVANT today as it was back in 2001 when 8DS http://forums.thesimsresource.com/showthread.php?t=88183 was opening.

These sites operate laissez-faire in the eyes of EA and without injunction. Meaning that private initiatives (Sims sites both pay and free) and production (Custom content) is left best to roam free, without opposing economic or legal interventionism by EA beyond that which is perceived to be necessary to maintain true property rights.

Be they free or pay, end user custom content is good business for EA.

Okay.  Go back for a second and look at the sequence of events that happened when they found the Sugary Sims site, and compare it to what happened here.

What were the results?  How are the situations similar?

It's not rocket science.  They complained in the guestbook and the one site claims to be going free now.  It then follows that it might work in other situations, correct?

Deductive reasoning! :D

I was about to post about this. Arghhh, what a piece of shit that owner is for making everything so expensive, another Carla in the rise! Is she looney or something for charging $1.50 for each outfit? God. But at least her stuff is good quality unlike Carla who looks like she hired a team of kindergardners to make her clothes.

Not exactly. More likely wishful thinking based on your favoured conclusion.

I know that you didn't actually read my post because you have noted that I said, "The ONLY way site owners can obtain remuneration from work is when their work benefits someone else willing and able to pay for that benefit."

I looked over the downloads at Sugary Sims and noted the page views numbered 2030. More importantly, I noted the sloppy amateurish quality of those downloads.

Most likely the subscription page didn't get removed due to community outrage, but rather lack of interest.

Meaning if no one wanted to pay for them. And clearly no one wants them for free. It's a zero cost to the site owner to take down the subscription page.

I suspect her recent announcement has little to do with a few snarky guestbook entries. Better to save face and generate a bit of community good spirit by appearing magnanimous in announcing it's removal.

Same old Abercrombie shit...which is available on a million free sites including MTS. I mean, what's the point, in opening a paysite that offers the same stuff others have for free? I'd think they'd be out of business real quick but apparently there are some uninformed (or just dumb) who pay for it...but still...I doubt she'll be making a profit regardless. ;) Her stuff is THE most easily found style out there.

I'm surprised by the response of the quality of the downloads.. ranging from "pure shit" to "worth downloading if free".  Clearly we need a quality filter to save some people from themselves!

Personally I think it's average; it's not fugly, not Carla Niven fugly for example, or texture filled (the two are almost synonyms XD), but it's so common it actually makes it worse.  :lol:

Why do you guys see fit to attack every pay site's quality? Arguments are more persuasive if they're presented in a mature way - sans personal attacks and name-calling. I happen to think these skins, while wildly over-priced, are of good quality. At least, some of them are photo-skinned, but still HQ. If I didn't know that it was wrong to charge for CC and had the money to waste, I'd download this stuff. I'd be willing to be that she'd have quite a following if the site was free. [Just so you know, I wasn't defending the principle of pay sites, only this site owner as a person.]

Why are you admonishing about one thing, and then defending yourself with a totally different concept?

1.  Why is it "not alright" to make comments about the quality of the downloads?   You wanna point that rule out to me?  
2.  I havn't read though this entire thread, but I didn't see anyone attacking the owner personally.

Attacking someone's work is transitively attacking them. I didn't mean that you can't point out when something is low quality, but this is not bad. It's not that original, but it still looks nice. And, how exactly did I switch concepts by saying that I was defending the creator but not pay sites in general?

It isn't. Their work is not indicative of their character, therefore we're not attacking them, specifically. It's that kind of thinking that makes people unable to take criticism.

She's a business now so noticing and commenting on the quality of the product(s) being sold isn't an attack on the creator, it's just good fiscal reasoning. If they call her a lowlife, greedy paysite bitch (like they did in her guestbook) then it would be a personal attack.

Also, quality is completely subjective unless you have a collective agreement  of what "quality" is, which we do not.

The stuff isn't actually that bad, but it's just so stingy of them to charge for it, it's not mega awesome or anything.

Do some "creators" need financial motivation to create skins to share? It's not hard.

I don't really have much stock in whatever happens.

But in terms of what happened with the Sugar Sims deal, there were nearly-live responses on the front page of the website that were directly from the guestbook comments, so the person running the site was at least pretending to pay attention.  v:)v

I will admit here that my reasoning is flawed if you're not one to take much stock in Skinner's behavioral theories...that if a person does an action that nets them a favorable response, they'll repeat that action.

Those of you arguing about quality...has anyone actually seen any of this in action yet?  I mean, it could have visible seams and stuff, for all we know.  Rose and Peggy have nice enough still shots for their hairs, but there are flaws in the meshes and the reds are all really weird colors.

That link does have an identical nightie though, so maybe all the stuff is stolen, anyway...hmm...

Ok, I have seen Carla Niven's stuff, and I have to agree.  It looks like shit.  I do however like some of the stuff off of Zadie's Site.  I also agree that since clothing like that is available for free on lots of free sites, I wouldn't pay for it.  So...her site must be destroyed.   :twisted:

Rumors have been stated that Zadie is really Emilie from BoutiqueEmilie.

So that is why Boutique Emily was closed down?  Just for making a paysite to get a lot of money? pffff
Btw zadie's previews really look the same as Emilie ones.

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While being Boutique Emilie - she had a quite nice reputation. But now this Zadiesims has the worst reputation that can ever be.

I'm sure that nightie is photo-skinned, not stolen. There are several pieces I recognize from Zadie from real pictures.

It's not Emilie. She's a friend of mine. She closed BE because of personal reasons. I can't see her ever opening a pay site. If you will remember, she took her donation set a while before she ever closed her site....

Okay.  Explain Zadie using the exact same email address as Emilie for Paypal.

:lol: BlueSoup, I just read that over at Be Less Stupid! and was about to ask the very same thing! An interesting turn of events, if it is true. That would really suck if they were the same person. But, isn't Emilie putting her stuff up over at MTS2??

I am putting Emilie's stuff up at MTS2.

But I checked the email address for Zadie Sims - it is the exact same one as Emilie's.  There is no other explanation other than they are the same person.

That sucks... and is pretty cowardly. Feh, it's pathetic.  :?

The style of clothes is the same too... *le sigh*

hmmm  mabye Emilie has another alias named Cody.

So Emilie has gone from free to pay and is covering her identity with another name. Well, isn't that just peaches and cream?

Wow. This is very sad. It also makes me angry. I'm surprised she would use the same email address.

It's a sad day, but IMO her BE clothes were better.

I had noticed before that the paypal address had the name emilie in it, but BE's emilie (http://www.thesimsresource.com/artists/GS%20Emilie/) is not the only one on the planet (I went to highschool with one who spelled her name that way) so I figured it was just a different girl named emilie, but you guys are sure that it's the same address she used to have on her BE site? (screenshot (http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/3669/bezadiefy8.png) in case she suddenly changes the paypal email)

That's really pathetic that she felt it necessary to do that.  It's even worse than if she had just been up front about going pay.  It's also insulting to the community's intelligence that she didn't bother to change her paypal email.

@wicked: Blue's probably right.  I'm assuming Blue is the one who bought the BE stuff in the booty, which would mean the paypal email she used then is on file somewhere in her computer.  (I also don't think she would start a rumor like that without thinking to make sure the emails are identical.)

If you download any of Emilie's outfits from MTS2, they include read-me's and her email address is in there as well.

seems Emilie speaks with forked tongue   :P

http://www.thesimsresource.com/artists/GS%20Emilie/about/

"About Me:
I'm the owner of the former GetSkintight.net and BoutiqueEmilie.net.
I no longer create for The Sims 2."


bah ha ha   :wink:

It saddens me when people with perfectly good reputations cheapen themselves for $1.50.

I used to be an avid admirer of her creations too. But no longer.

I'm not seeing anything interesting. Yet.

Emilie is a member at Simpixels and Graphics forum, like I am.  This was what she told us.  I really feel like posting in the Updates section about her new site.



Awe she opened Zadies bc of PMBD, she likes the drama.

Has the site been taken down because all I get when I go there is an Index page with nothing on it.

I'm guessing she's off to open another paysite - and this time, remembering to change the e-mail address to her Paypal account.  :lol:  :lol:

 :D  :D That's exactly the same I wrote on 'Be less stupid' :)) I mean I am sure she's gonna do this way. It would be really really stupid to come back to B.Emilie or to go on with zadiesims. There is no way back for her.

The only thing I don't get is why she is trying to make a paysite if she has enough money to register a lot of domains?

Either way she's screwed herself over. People recognize her stuff and if a paysite pops up again with clothing that looks like hers then people are going to know.

I wonder if this qualifies as a killmark. Hmm.

It seem to me that she just did this Carla Niven lookalike site to make our head spin and have a good laugh. I guess she was succesful and in the same time she proved to be the ultimate drama queen.

What a loser.... :lol:  :shock:

MUWAHAHAHAHAA!

*stares*

OMG

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

There are no words.

Her guestbook still is still in existence, and can be accessed at:

http://users4.smartgb.com/g/g.php?a=s&i=g40-03471-14&m=all&p=1&ec=4467

Alas, as many of you suspected, any post that either opposed her pay site status, or else failed to kiss her proverbial arse has been deleted.

Nutters that one, I say!

Soo any bets on what her new site will be called?

I am pitchin the idea for  hmmm....  GetZadietight.com

I hope she just sticks to not doing anything for the community anymore. Seriously. If she makes a comeback I think I'll lose my marbles or what's left of them.

oh i didnt mean to imply she was starting a rumor, i actually had missed the post where bluesoup had said it was the "exact same" email. :oops:

As for emilie paying for so many domains, she's using dreamhost which lets you host unlimited domains, so she can create 12 different personalities all with paysites if she wants to and it wouldnt cost her any extra money. Gotta do something with the extra months left on her hosting plan I guess...or if she paid $8 for a month of hosting--her paysite was only up for a week--so she has 3 more weeks to create more paysites lol
She didnt delete the BE domain or zadie so she can always put the sites back up if she wants to get herself more attention. :roll:

The other day I was looking up info on BE and Zadie.  Her BE Whois info listed her email, name, country of origin, and that the domain expired in October of this year.  I just looked again, and she has shielded all of her BE information, and her email address is scheduled to expire on February 7th, this year.  So maybe she's closing down for good?  Or just trying to hide her tracks better.

or maybe butiquegetzadiemilietight.com  :D

Fantastic?  I would have to say scary.  It just blows my mind what people can find out on the web.  I just recently discovered the magic that is google, and that took me long enough. :roll:

Ymits, you might want to remove the phone number and email. While things like that can be easily found via google, it's not good netiquette to post that sort of thing in a public forum.

Do not post personal information about people.  I don't care if it can be found on google or not.

I can't even get this site to load. Can it be gone already?

Yes, in the posts before yours, we talked about how it disappeared about 2 weeks ago, only a few days after she created it.