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Title: Pay MESH recolors on free sites
Post by: BlackPearl on 2007 January 31, 00:38:31
Openhouse Jack makes a new recolor of Sunair's beautiful new PAY MESH from TSR (that is not on the booty)  and uploads it to a free site!  He's got it pretty as day right there at InSim.  Of course he apologizes for it being a pay mesh, but justs uploads it anyway.  WTF?

Here's the link:  http://www.insimenator.net/showthread.php?t=35884

What, is he doing trying to drum up business for TSR now??  I really like the Hexoganal Bathtub but damn.

EDIT:  Someone was nice enough to PM me the MESH file.  In case anyone else wants it and the recolor, here it is:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/px9d85


Title: Pay MESH recolors on free sites
Post by: BlueSoup on 2007 January 31, 01:01:49
That is not a new mesh.  I had that same thing in my game like last year.


Title: Pay MESH recolors on free sites
Post by: BlackPearl on 2007 January 31, 01:19:52
Okay, okay...so it's not new.  But it's still pay and not on the booty.  

Regardless of all that...why put a pay mesh recolor on a free site??  Does he work for TSR now?


Title: Pay MESH recolors on free sites
Post by: kathy on 2007 January 31, 01:26:44
The whole thing bothers me and I was rather hesitant about even listing it. I'm currently considering telling people that they can no longer post recolors of pay files.


Title: Pay MESH recolors on free sites
Post by: The ISZ on 2007 January 31, 02:03:19
That kind of put me off too.  I think this one of those issues that people with free sites will eventually be addressing, and rightly so.  I would think he would upload it to TSR where the pay file came from in the first place.  

Kathy I think it's great that you are doing that.  I think that is extremely helpful.


Title: Pay MESH recolors on free sites
Post by: sickpuppy on 2007 January 31, 02:23:30
...and you didn't put this in the OpenhouseJack thread because....? :?


Title: Pay MESH recolors on free sites
Post by: BlackPearl on 2007 January 31, 02:27:08
Quote from: "sickpuppy"
...and you didn't put this in the OpenhouseJack thread because....? :?


...Um, because that thread was about his blogs and how weird he is.  This thread is about putting pay mesh recolors on free sites.  Perhaps I'll change the thread title.


Title: Pay MESH recolors on free sites
Post by: Aquamarine on 2007 January 31, 03:54:54
Haha, I love the unenthusiastic responses so far.

Quote from: "kathy"
The whole thing bothers me and I was rather hesitant about even listing it. I'm currently considering telling people that they can no longer post recolors of pay files.


I've always wondered why so many free sites allowed this in the first place.


Title: Pay MESH recolors on free sites
Post by: Noodles on 2007 January 31, 03:59:22
At least now that there is the booty, in most cases you can get the pay meshes for free anyway!  :lol:


Title: Pay MESH recolors on free sites
Post by: kathy on 2007 January 31, 04:47:03
It had never been an issue on the site until very recently when a couple people had done it so I really hadn't thought twice about it.


Title: Pay MESH recolors on free sites
Post by: Anachronism on 2007 January 31, 06:37:26
I remember someone posting a peggy pay mesh recolour on MTS2 about a year ago. It has since then disappeared.


Title: Pay MESH recolors on free sites
Post by: Bluebottle on 2007 January 31, 10:20:32
I just think it's bloody annoying, because I click to get things without bothering to read through the info.

Although the twice I've seen pay hair recolours on free sites, they've provided a link here to get the mesh, which can only be a good thing.


Title: Pay MESH recolors on free sites
Post by: JMZ on 2007 January 31, 10:43:32
IMO I don't think that free sites should allow recolours of pay meshes.

But that's just my opinion.


Title: Pay MESH recolors on free sites
Post by: Super_Pirate_Dude on 2007 January 31, 15:08:45
Quote from: "JMZ"
IMO I don't think that free sites should allow recolours of pay meshes.

But that's just my opinion.


Yeah, it just wastes space. Most people don't even have the mesh! 'cept us..... *wink wink*


Title: Pay MESH recolors on free sites
Post by: BlueSoup on 2007 January 31, 18:13:20
Quote from: "Bluebottle"
I just think it's bloody annoying, because I click to get things without bothering to read through the info.

Although the twice I've seen pay hair recolours on free sites, they've provided a link here to get the mesh, which can only be a good thing.


Where did you see that?


Title: Pay MESH recolors on free sites
Post by: Bluebottle on 2007 January 31, 22:03:40
Hm, emosims provided a direct link to the booty for a recolour of a peggy mesh, and starsims gives you a hint if you go to download her peggy recolours. Sure I've seen other people giving links, too.


Title: Pay MESH recolors on free sites
Post by: BlackPearl on 2007 January 31, 22:46:15
I have never come across a pay mesh recolor where the booty was mentioned or a pirated mesh could be downloaded.

The only links that seem to be provided is where you can "pay" for the mesh if you want the recolor.  I've come across this on hair and now the bathtub.

It just sux.  You see the item and like it, then want to download it.  Go to reading and discover it's something that you will have to hunt down and pay for if you want the recolor.  

I think it's a cheesy way to "drum up business" for a paysite.


Title: Pay MESH recolors on free sites
Post by: BlueSoup on 2007 January 31, 22:58:04
emosims hotlinks directly to the booty for their recolor of Peggy's Lucky Wheel hair prize.  I just checked it out.


Title: Pay MESH recolors on free sites
Post by: Not Paper on 2007 February 01, 12:18:12
I disagree with the idea of "there should be no recolors of paymeshes".
In no small part due to the ubiquitous poor red recolors. I seem to remember seeing a collection of proper red recolors of pay hairstyles at InSIM... it would be a shame if it were to be deleted.
But sometimes, people's textures are actually better than the originals. Go figure, eh?

Quote from: "BlueSoup"
emosims hotlinks directly to the booty for their recolor of Peggy's Lucky Wheel hair prize.  I just checked it out.

I like some of the things on Emosims, but couldn't she have just uploaded it to her own server? Or linked to PMBD, rather than the mesh itself?
I always assumed that it was common courtesy not to directly link to someone else's web site when it came to images and larger files. (To HTML or PHP pages? No big deal.)


Title: Pay MESH recolors on free sites
Post by: Quinctia on 2007 February 01, 17:10:28
Hotlinking is a bandwidth thing, and if we're claiming to have unlimited bandwidth...

And pay recolors are only not a problem places where it's acceptable to just distribute the mesh.  On a site where you can't (MTS2, etc), then it's just really annoying.


Title: Pay MESH recolors on free sites
Post by: calalily on 2007 February 01, 17:36:20
I don't think that recolours of pay meshes should be on free sites - customers should complain to the business and ask for better reds. Or businesses should pay free sites that fix their fuckups.


Title: Pay MESH recolors on free sites
Post by: BlueSoup on 2007 February 01, 18:21:28
I personally don't like the hotlinking thing, I'd rather she directed people here so they knew more about what we have to offer. ;)  But Pescado doesn't care.


Title: Pay MESH recolors on free sites
Post by: BlackPearl on 2007 February 02, 15:13:10
I have to agree that most red colors suck bad.  I do a lot of hair recolors and they seem to go over rather well with folks.  

There are several pay hairs that I want to recolor and share but I have never put them up because it does suck to find out that you have to go pay for the mesh.   :roll:

But, Bluesoup just gave me an idea.  Perhaps I will just link to the booty where the mesh can be downloaded for free and begin to release a few recolors.

I am also guilty of just including the mesh on one recolor set I released for convenience.  What do you think about that??  

I would almost rather hotlink to just stay out of trouble.  But I don't know how.

 :P


Title: Pay MESH recolors on free sites
Post by: simplystella on 2007 February 05, 16:43:51
Mh, this is a quite delicate subject.

I for one don't like free sites offering recolors of pay meshes - a free site is supposed to have only free downloads accessible by anyone, while pay meshes recolors are usable only by those who have the original pay mesh.

But, it's also true that lots of pay meshes comes with fugly textures, and recolors by other creators are very appreciated.
Last but not least, sites like this(PSMBD) helps quite a lot. If there's a way for everyone to get the original mesh, then it's great to have recolors as well..