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Title: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: redisenchanted on 2008 July 30, 20:17:40
I've always thought we should have some side by side comparisons of similar free and pay content. When I first found this site, I downloaded tons of stuff from the booty. Almost all of it is now gone, because the truth is most pay content is inferior to free content.

Here's my first example Crappy Rose Pay hair:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/jmtmom/Rosedonate_0063.jpg)

Vs awesome Nouk free hair:

(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk237/murrinwold/LOTR/Arwen.jpg)

Edited to add a better picture of the hair.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Dark Lunaris on 2008 July 30, 20:32:59
The pay braid looks deformed. The head looks inflated and the braid is bent with a really unnatural angle.

It's not hard to see which one is a thousand times better.

And I'm sure the pay braid has crappy animations, or cuts into stuff because the bone assignments suck.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: redisenchanted on 2008 July 30, 21:25:35
Game-crashing, high poly, poorly animated pay crap from Vita

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/jmtmom/Yellow_big_5.jpg)

Vs low poly, gorgeous free objects from Adele at MTS2

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/jmtmom/MTS2_Adele_790177_adele_xavierSet.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: fway on 2008 July 30, 21:28:53
Adele is love! I have been meaning to put her stuff in my game, I actually put her living room set in my game, but for now, I will most likely until there's a whole matching set of her things! Adele's bedroom also looks tempting to download. I love the whole worn/rustic look she gives.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: arrgh on 2008 July 30, 21:33:21
Ive been coveting Nouk's braid for forever but cant find anyplace to DL it now that GOS is down.


..Also been procrastinating on Adele's her stuff is stunning but in the past my experience is the prettier the textures the slower my game runs.   What is considered high poly wise?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Zazazu on 2008 July 30, 21:45:28
Game-crashing, high poly, poorly animated pay crap from Vita

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Vs low poly, gorgeous free objects from Adele at MTS2

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The Vita set doesn't crash my game at all, but Addison kicks ass. However, I find the textures look terribly photoshopped. You can see it in the preview pic, but I believe it was even worse in-game with my graphic card. My card picks up everything.

I don't have that Adele set. I need it!

I also dumped that pay braid when Nouk came out with hers. Whose hair poofs like that?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: redisenchanted on 2008 July 30, 21:46:11
I think for objects 1000 faces per tile is considered standard. Adele's living room sets are very low. At MTS2 all the polys for each object are listed. Most ornate meshes are high poly, but Adele textures so well, it looks like there's 3D details, but they're actually not. Her bedroom set is a tad higher than some of her others, but it's much better than Vita or Brigit.

I also find that a lot of Vita's objects aren't centered right, they cut through walls, etc. I think it's pathetic when you have to use a cheat to place a desk.  ::)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 July 30, 21:48:07
Badly Textured Peggy Hair (with flower, which I believe is not optional)


Vs.

Less Curly But Far Superior Beauty From Helga




Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: liegenschonheit on 2008 July 30, 23:24:45
Lets see, I have some.

This ponytail by peggy isn't the worst of her stuff, but it still has a crappy hairline and fugly textures.
(http://i33.tinypic.com/2rdklte.jpg)

Nouk's, on the other hand, is just lovely.
(http://i37.tinypic.com/10yov1f.jpg)

Or how about this one, which gives the sim a weird elongated head?
(http://i34.tinypic.com/24g6mwx.jpg)

And once again, Nouk's lovely version:
(http://i37.tinypic.com/157db4k.jpg)

And it's not just Nouk who can top Peggy's fug. Check out this "chinese" hairstyle by Peggy:
(http://i36.tinypic.com/33et108.jpg)

These styles by XM aren't exactly the same as Peggy's, but are just better.
(http://i36.tinypic.com/2guea94.jpg)
(http://i35.tinypic.com/2afztqe.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 July 31, 04:39:52
Note the love poured into the free one:

(http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/5361/hecsfallingwaterhz4.jpg)
Hecubus' beautiful fallingwater - absolutely stunning stuff - everything exact and downpat.

And now this crap from a pay artist.
(http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/7656/crappypayfallingwaterqm1.jpg)
It's the bargain basement fallingwater you never ever wanted.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Anouk on 2008 July 31, 15:49:17
The image you posted of the rockabilly hair is not the final version I think. 8)
Also I think Peggy and Rose try to go for super realistic (but it turns out kinda plasticky for Rose) while I always go for semi realistic with everything. So they're not gonna look the same. I think you need moar Helga who also goes for super realistic :P


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Zazazu on 2008 July 31, 16:43:35
Also I think Peggy and Rose try to go for super realistic (but it turns out kinda plasticky for Rose) while I always go for semi realistic with everything.
Really? Peggy, realistic? With her pink-reds and huge neck/ear/forehead gaps? That's what I was thinking about the Asian hairstyle: it's pretty, but you know there's an ear gap and most likely a forehead gap at teen.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 July 31, 16:47:34
Really? Peggy, realistic? With her pink-reds and huge neck/ear/forehead gaps?

....You mean none of you have gaps in your necks?  I might go see a doctor then.

Modest Nouk is modest.  Compare it then to Marko - Nouk still wins pwnage on that.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 July 31, 17:35:18
Badly Textured Peggy Hair (with flower, which I believe is not optional)
*snip snip*

Vs.

Less Curly But Far Superior Beauty From Helga
*snippers!*



Maybe it's because I'm crazy but I stared at that peggy hair, the top of it is a different color than the bottom, not to mention it looks like the duller brown could have been apart of that helga hair! Just the way some of the strands fall around the face, just looks like she thickened the mesh and added her own color to the bottom

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The image you posted of the rockabilly hair is not the final version I think. 8)
Also I think Peggy and Rose try to go for super realistic (but it turns out kinda plasticky for Rose) while I always go for semi realistic with everything. So they're not gonna look the same. I think you need moar Helga who also goes for super realistic :P


!!! I would love to have another rockabilly hair! BTW This is probably the wrong place but any idea on where I could get your full pony you did from?
 http://www.digitalperversion.net/gardenofshadows/index.php?topic=3644.0
Like the one in the last picture?

And as for Peggy and Rose going for realistic? I think peggy's stuff is most fantasy/meant for pictures type deal. Not really suitable for gameplay, whereas Rose's goes for realistic on some hairs but from what I've seen a majority of her stuff is based on fantasy/games/anime's


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Jojoba on 2008 July 31, 18:23:35
Neat idea Red! Nice thread  ;D

Chaz's Rihanna vs Stefan's
link to comparison pic http://i36.tinypic.com/2whqyra.jpg

Chaz's Rose Mcgowan vs Stefan's
link to comparison pic http://i34.tinypic.com/jtp3km.jpg

Chaz's Gwen Stefani vs ReginaS (at JustSms2)
(http://i35.tinypic.com/jzjexu.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Ry on 2008 July 31, 18:27:49
Chaz' Gwen looks constipated.  :D
Really plugged up.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Anouk on 2008 July 31, 20:10:16
!!! I would love to have another rockabilly hair! BTW This is probably the wrong place but any idea on where I could get your full pony you did from?
 http://www.digitalperversion.net/gardenofshadows/index.php?topic=3644.0
Like the one in the last picture?

I uhm... utterly destroyed my site. LOL Good news is that I took the time to review all my old hair, fixing binning, eyebrow colors, greys, filesizes, etc. So when I find a good CMS I will re-upload everything nicely optimized and with all mistakes from the past fixed. Well,.... except maybe for scary texturing and meshing, but I'll only fix giant mistakes, otherwise my original work is completely hacked up and I like some nostalgia.

It may be on Modthesims2 or Insimenator (if they haven't deleted it), otherwise I'll send it to ya :)

Quote
And as for Peggy and Rose going for realistic? I think peggy's stuff is most fantasy/meant for pictures type deal. Not really suitable for gameplay, whereas Rose's goes for realistic on some hairs but from what I've seen a majority of her stuff is based on fantasy/games/anime's

YES that's a better description of it! I meant with the hairlines being whispy and precizely drawn, and the whispy loose messy hairs, thin strands etc. But it's definatley anime-ey. You're right.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Souvenirs on 2008 July 31, 21:20:08
^Looks like this thread has already done its job. ;D  Everything Adele does is gorgeous, by the way.

There's also this Marko rip off of Nouk...

Marko:
(http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/1159/718258rt0.jpg)

Nouk:
(http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/3127/mts2417290noukafrahairbzv8.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2008 July 31, 21:27:33
I want that beautiful braid of Nouk's myself.  I think I've got almost all her hair in my game....I haven't really found much that beats her's - I don't even use maxis hair anymore, not even the styles I like.  The textures look like poo.

And Adele's stuff looks so real that I haven't the hear to put it in my game - everything else will look that much more plastic.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 August 01, 00:20:09
Unfortunately, there are so many hairs on T$R that look like crap versions of free hair, it was hard to choose. It really was.
I finally found this one, and thought oh, god, that's ugly.  It wasn't until I went to post it here that I realized it was by Chaz. Should have known, huh?  ::)


ChazCrap:


Vs.

Yet Another Superior Helga Hair:


(Plus Helga's model is WAY better, too)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Owl on 2008 August 01, 02:10:51
Ya, because she's not a sim with a face chopped off from Blake lively and pasted onto her skin. 

::) Silly Chaz.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: WonderRik on 2008 August 01, 02:27:06
I love this thread!  It's nice to see bad pay crap next to free stuff. 


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 August 01, 04:19:41
I uhm... utterly destroyed my site. LOL Good news is that I took the time to review all my old hair, fixing binning, eyebrow colors, greys, filesizes, etc. So when I find a good CMS I will re-upload everything nicely optimized and with all mistakes from the past fixed. Well,.... except maybe for scary texturing and meshing, but I'll only fix giant mistakes, otherwise my original work is completely hacked up and I like some nostalgia.


[/quote]

LOL... well I knew the site went kaput for a second there :P I think that was global news....

Your textures are really good and your meshes! Don't sweat it that you can't texture as well as the lovely Carla Niven..... no one is as good as s/h/it  ::)

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j61/miss_sabrina/sims2/w-250h-188-704314.jpg)
ugly crappy textured helga hair

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j61/miss_sabrina/sims2/011.jpg)
and the better one with more realistic colors


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: falln_angel on 2008 August 01, 07:41:34
I don't get it. What would posses a person to take perfectly good Helga hair and turn it into shit? Is it so that it can match all the Peggy hair in your collection? (Looking at the piss-yellow particularly.) TSR sucks!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SimARR on 2008 August 01, 08:51:22
Although Holy Simoly is Technically a paysite, but I still prefer to see it as a free site.
Here is an older FREE set by Holy Simoly compared to a new set by Murano @ TSR:
(http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj211/ShanOw0/hlVm.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 August 01, 09:06:12
Although Holy Simoly is Technically a paysite, but I still prefer to see it as a free site.

Lolwhut? It's a paysite - no matter what you prefer. They prefer your money.

And from an actual freesite to compare to Murano:

(http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/86/mts2hek741924beispiel2tb4.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SimARR on 2008 August 01, 09:26:41
Quote
Lolwhut? It's a paysite - no matter what you prefer. They prefer your money.

ok... fair enough. I always thought the attitude towards HL was a little less intense, but I guess not. Sorry.

**Looks for Another pay item being Pwn'd by free stuff.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: rome_raven on 2008 August 01, 12:19:32
And from an actual freesite to compare to Murano:

What freesite is that?  I actually want that set


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 August 01, 12:33:15
What freesite is that?  I actually want that set

Why MTS2 - http://hideki.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=280691 (http://hideki.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=280691)  :)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: nihil on 2008 August 01, 13:01:58
Regarding Fallingwater - having had the pleasure of visiting the actual site, I have to seriously compliment Hecubus.  Her's is an incredibly realistic - and accurate - simmified version.  :)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Dr House on 2008 August 01, 14:26:18
Yup, Holysimoly IS a paysite; no way around. Just like Around the Sims 2. I'm glad Bluesoup days with the "special treatment" towards these 2 sites are over and way behind. I don't care if these site's owners are so nice and yadada, they're still paysites >:(

I saw a lot of Ikea stuff at MTS2 & TSR too, but that'ld make too many pics of comparison. I'll see if i retrieve the bookmarks.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Millie on 2008 August 01, 14:36:04
Also I think Peggy and Rose try to go for super realistic (but it turns out kinda plasticky for Rose) while I always go for semi realistic with everything.
Really? Peggy, realistic? With her pink-reds and huge neck/ear/forehead gaps? That's what I was thinking about the Asian hairstyle: it's pretty, but you know there's an ear gap and most likely a forehead gap at teen.

Nouk, I must confess I love Rose hair.....however, I recently discovered your stuff, and whilst the textures are semi realistic, the animation is just wonderful! Much more natural than Rose.

Edit, just read that back and it sounded all wrong.

Just to clarify, I love your hair!

I also love Roses hairstyles (but not particularly the textures or lack of movement, plus weird things happening because of this) I like the styles themselves.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: redisenchanted on 2008 August 01, 16:12:14
Even someone with talent like Windkeeper gets pwned by free creators:

Her infant diaper over ride:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/jmtmom/w-250h-231-292460.jpg)

VS

Bloom at Insim's free over ride:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/jmtmom/BloomDiaper.jpg)
http://www.insimenator.net/showthread.php?t=65201

There are several versions and recolors galore.


Windkeeper's Unicorn
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/jmtmom/w-250h-167-443166.jpg)

VS

Rebecah's free RIDABLE unicorn at Insim:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/jmtmom/attachment-1.jpg)

http://www.insimenator.net/showthread.php?t=75454


Her version of the OMSP (One more slot)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/jmtmom/w-250h-151-584102.jpg)


VS Lord Darcy's excellent and all inclusive set

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/jmtmom/MTS2_Lord_Darcy_792648_LdDarcy_Maxi.jpg)

http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=295062&c=1


She's probably best known for her build sets, which are well-made, but a quick glance at the featured Door and Window sets at MTS2 gives you multiple excellent FREE building sets like this one from Macarossi:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/jmtmom/MTS2_306766_macarossi_thumb_ALL2.jpg)

http://sumomo.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=162831

Or this one by stonetower at MTS2:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/jmtmom/MTS2_430473_stonetower_thumb_Prida_.jpg)

http://sumomo.modthesims2.com/member.php?u=388176

Even the best paysite creators can't outdo free creators.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: spunkysim on 2008 August 01, 16:49:50
This is definitely the best thread evar.  Anyone who has any doubts about paysites needs to just look at this thread.  I hadn't seen Adele's stuff either, or that awesome dining room - now my download folder is getting bloated because I can't just go get that one thing but I have to see what else that creator has done!   ;D  Or rather, it will probably get evened out because I know that having that new stuff will make me delete more of the crap to make room for more goodness.

I can't play with any hairs but Nouk's anymore (and a very few others).  I realized yesterday when I booted up my game that I always play with the same stuff, over and over.  And what I paid particular attention to is that its all stuff from free sites, because that's what looks best in the game.  I want to spend a day (or probably three lol) deleting the shit stuff that I never use to make room in my game and most likely have it run better, too.  That is going to be a major project because I am not a creator so I don't know a short quick way to do it. 

Anyways, this thread is such a great eye-opener for anyone who might be might be on the fence still.  If you can't see it by looking at this, you're blind, stupid - or you don't want to see.

Edited to make better sense I hope.  (S)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 August 01, 17:50:50
That is going to be a major project because I am not a creator so I don't know a short quick way to do it. 

There's no quick or short way to do it. It is a pain in the arse for us all.  ;D

Lovely freesite download which roxxors my soxxors:
(http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/7357/greektempleen7.jpg)

Because I know someone will ask, here it is (http://www.lalunarossa-sims.org/downloads/objects/decorative/sculptures/page2.html)

Sims2sisters fountain of fail with bonus water through "real" stone pigeon wing:
(http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/tsr/sims2sisters/object_sets/fountain.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Ry on 2008 August 01, 17:55:55
Poor birdie must be in pain.  :'(
That's an awful fountain...lmao!
First one is gorgeous, and thanks for adding the link, too, Cala! :-*


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Millie on 2008 August 01, 18:01:26
We should have a list with all of the awesome free creators sites in it - free advertising for the sites, people on the fence have easy access to good free sites (I'd never heard of many until coming on here, and I'm still learning) and it just might draw more people away from the paysites!

I for one, would love to see sites recommended by pirates in the know.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2008 August 01, 18:03:02
I'd show the picture, but the difference isn't as evident...Marvine's aquarium fish for placing in pools, oceans and in aquarium walls [Which I got free, but can't seem to find at the moment :( The download, itself - I've got the aquarium fish in my downloads file.] - vs Windkeeper's still sculpture fish, which just sit there and don't move at all, available at TSR and in the booty.  I remember that was the first thing I downloaded from the Booty and imediately got rid of it with disapoointment.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Anouk on 2008 August 01, 18:04:58
Nouk, I must confess I love Rose hair.....however, I recently discovered your stuff, and whilst the textures are semi realistic, the animation is just wonderful! Much more natural than Rose.

Edit, just read that back and it sounded all wrong.

Just to clarify, I love your hair!

I also love Roses hairstyles (but not particularly the textures or lack of movement, plus weird things happening because of this) I like the styles themselves.

Why can you not like Rose hair? It's nice hair!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Millie on 2008 August 01, 18:08:35
*whispers* because it's paysite, and it isn't that hot. It's very, um, static. I love the way your hairs are animated. As much as I love the styles of rose, it is very plastic looking.

In my defence, I draw the line at Peggy. I have subscribed there once, but was sorely disappointed once I got items in game, apart from a select few objects that I used to use.

It's time for my download folder to have a cull I fear.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: redisenchanted on 2008 August 01, 18:10:39
I'd show the picture, but the difference isn't as evident...Marvine's aquarium fish for placing in pools, oceans and in aquarium walls [Which I got free, but can't seem to find at the moment :( The download, itself - I've got the aquarium fish in my downloads file.] - vs Windkeeper's still sculpture fish, which just sit there and don't move at all, available at TSR and in the booty.  I remember that was the first thing I downloaded from the Booty and imediately got rid of it with disapoointment.

Here's Marvine's aquarium set: http://www.insimenator.net/showthread.php?t=72928


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2008 August 01, 19:09:57
Yay!  Thanks.  Its a very awesome set, and its much better done than my own neglected attempt at the same thing.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: spunkysim on 2008 August 01, 19:18:41
Now see, that fountain is full of win too - and I hadn't seen that site before either!  Thanks Cala!

We do need a list of "Fantastic Free Sites" or something... I said this thread is going to kill my downloads folder.  Especially since I have finally really started playing again with a specific "style" in mind so I have to go search for stuff.  Well I know that I will be doing a lot of weeding this weekend, along with watching this thread!   ;)

Edited to add - Cala, I should have said I don't know the BEST way to weed though my sims stuff, meaning delete from in game or what.  I don't have any "tools" to delete from outside of game and if it isn't named appropriately I don't know what it is from inside the download folders.  I do have most of my stuff in sub-folders, but some stuff is in "Misc" because I don't know what the heck it is from just the name of the package file!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 August 01, 19:34:18
Most of the time those sorts of lists just lead to no one clicking on it - and sims2cri and other places have them.  A lot of these places (particularly the ones I mention) are on my links page already - so it's redundancy for me.  Better to show off the content and have people clicking like crazy download whores to get it. :D

If I find a good sim site, I put it in my links now I have joomla (regardless of whether they link to me or not), as I can update it anytime I want, and I have the advantage of finding new sites all the time because of foreign country sites linking to my site, I backtrack and find some cool little places.   


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Boredlittlefreak on 2008 August 01, 19:42:15
You people are cruel and I love it. XD I wonder if you all would call some of these things beautiful if they were free... XD Though, I admit, Peggy's hairline's suck. O_O And I am NOT a critical person. But... The hairlines irritate my perfectionist viewpoint. So untidy.

Ahh, if only bodyshop and simPE worked on my computer. =_=

Oh, and, YAY to list of free sites.

[topic="off"] Hi, I'm new here. =P[/topic]


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Millie on 2008 August 01, 19:43:33
Bored little freak......XD? Splainy please?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Boredlittlefreak on 2008 August 01, 19:53:18
LOL, yeah. Weird username. I wanted to use a different username so I wouldn't be immediately recognized around the artistic community as being on here. Not because I think it's wrong, but because I don't like harrassment. =B (I usually go by TaciturnSeraph or Friday Francis, which is my pen name.)

Bored: Summer vacation sucks. Couldn't get a job. Woe is me. =P
Little: Meh, everyone says I'm tiny. *shakefist* Though, I don't think that's why I chose that word. XD
Freak: I am a freak, no doubt about it. I don't even understand myself, how can I expect others to? XD
Boredlittlefreak: The result of uncreativity combined with impatience.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 August 01, 20:02:42
I wonder if you all would call some of these things beautiful if they were free... XD

No - I would just fail to point out the issues, and not bag it. I don't expect free content to be always perfect - it's a kind gift - but if it asks cash, it better be perfect. Sadly, it never is, and often crashes or borks your game or is not what was described on the package.

More free stuff win - this time something that had me squeeing when it came out, but being MATY, it is verboten to say "Thanks this is great":

(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff243/creamgray/The%20Sims%202/LdDarcy_MaxisMoreDecoSlot_01.jpg)

Extra Deco Slots for most Maxis furnitures.

You know you want it (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,12570.0.html)

Compared to the Anoeska desk just for FT, that LordDarcy had to fix *anyway*

(http://isc.ibibi.com/images/scaled/w-250h-250-699438.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 August 01, 20:08:32
Well, you could always go to the post of it at MTS2 and squee!  :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 August 01, 20:11:43
Well, you could always go to the post of it at MTS2 and squee!  :D

:D I did.   :P


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Millie on 2008 August 01, 20:12:20
LOL, yeah. Weird username. I wanted to use a different username so I wouldn't be immediately recognized around the artistic community as being on here. Not because I think it's wrong, but because I don't like harrassment. =B (I usually go by TaciturnSeraph or Friday Francis, which is my pen name.)

Bored: Summer vacation sucks. Couldn't get a job. Woe is me. =P
Little: Meh, everyone says I'm tiny. *shakefist* Though, I don't think that's why I chose that word. XD
Freak: I am a freak, no doubt about it. I don't even understand myself, how can I expect others to? XD
Boredlittlefreak: The result of uncreativity combined with impatience.


LOL.......it was the XD bit I needed explaining  :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: redisenchanted on 2008 August 01, 20:47:28
You people are cruel and I love it. XD I wonder if you all would call some of these things beautiful if they were free... XD Though, I admit, Peggy's hairline's suck. O_O And I am NOT a critical person. But... The hairlines irritate my perfectionist viewpoint. So untidy.

Ahh, if only bodyshop and simPE worked on my computer. =_=

Oh, and, YAY to list of free sites.

[topic="off"] Hi, I'm new here. =P[/topic]

The point is that if you're going to charge money for pixels, it should be perfect, but most of it fails. We don't criticize free stuff at all.

And Calalily, I already linked to the awesome Lord Darcy stuff, comparing it to Windkeeper's similar lame stuff.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Boredlittlefreak on 2008 August 01, 20:55:34
Ohhhh, the text emotionicon I use way to much. XD = laughing/lawl/lol/haha/etc.
I use it a lot, especially when nervous, confused, or making fun of myself.

I'm not known for my intelligence.

Yeah, I feel the same way about pay content. It's the illegal-ness that bothers me; especially skin tones and things that are painted over maxis' colors or made with a maxis mesh. I tend to ignore something's flaws, unless they are presented in some kind of insulting manner. =B


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 August 01, 21:02:29
And Calalily, I already linked to the awesome Lord Darcy stuff, comparing it to Windkeeper's similar lame stuff.

Aw crap. I thought someone did, but then I scrolled through your post registering only "ooooh unicorns" (despite the fact I've already downloaded them I still think that) and completely missed it.  Sorry redisenchanted.  :-*


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2008 August 01, 22:15:19
Trying to make you pay for pixels is presenting the stuff in a highly insulting manner.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: redisenchanted on 2008 August 01, 22:35:18
And Calalily, I already linked to the awesome Lord Darcy stuff, comparing it to Windkeeper's similar lame stuff.

Aw crap. I thought someone did, but then I scrolled through your post registering only "ooooh unicorns" (despite the fact I've already downloaded them I still think that) and completely missed it.  Sorry redisenchanted.  :-*

Guess it's awesome enough for multiple links.  ;D  :-*


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Owl on 2008 August 01, 22:48:52
Horrible crap by Sims Connection:

(http://www.simsconnection.com/simsfiles/screenshots/superwavy2008b.jpg)

VS. Beautiful hair by Myos:

(http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh199/owlybird/1199942844_myosfhair14.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 August 01, 22:55:02
when I first saw that SAU hair... the blonde one made me think of noodles!  ;D

(only because it's color is similar to that of these noodles I used to make)

but none the less still a gorgeous curly hair!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Alexia on 2008 August 01, 23:13:07
What utterly fugly hair! Curly hair that falls straight on the shoulders? Have they never seen curly hair IRL?
Myos pawns it 100%


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Boredlittlefreak on 2008 August 01, 23:50:19
Trying to make you pay for pixels is presenting the stuff in a highly insulting manner.

Of course.

The roots on the SC hair disturb me highly.  :o


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: fway on 2008 August 02, 01:22:45
mdhttr's Antique Bakery Set @ MTS2:
(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk221/hekkahekkawhat/MTS2_307687_mdhttr323_Main1.jpg)
(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk221/hekkahekkawhat/MTS2_307688_mdhttr323_Main2.jpg)

VS.

Simconnection's "French" Bakery Set

(http://www.simsconnection.com/simsfiles/donation/frenchbakerysmall.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: vindi on 2008 August 02, 01:46:19
That's not french, that's FAIL. Then again SimsConnection is always fail.
Speaking of that, there's some pay curly hair they did for females that's really close to something (better) on MTS2. I went searching for it but I can't find it--does anyone know what I'm talking about (or have a link)?

Edit: Screw that, I found it. It's a huge, ugly image so I'll just use a link.

http://www.simsconnection.com/simsfiles/donation/affectionateobjmale.jpg

That ugly, badly textured shit compared to this completely awesome hair.

(http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/6584/colourssgi7.jpg)
http://modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=152570

Actually, most of their stuff are ripoffs. The Gosling hair, totally looks like one of Aikea's.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: fway on 2008 August 02, 01:52:46
That's not french, that's FAIL. Then again SimsConnection is always fail.
Speaking of that, there's some pay curly hair they did for females that's really close to something (better) on MTS2. I went searching for it but I can't find it--does anyone know what I'm talking about (or have a link)?

Teehee, you didn't read the whole thread did you? :p

The better curly hair is from MYOS (a.k.a SimsArtistsUnion or SAU)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: vindi on 2008 August 02, 02:12:09
That's not french, that's FAIL. Then again SimsConnection is always fail.
Speaking of that, there's some pay curly hair they did for females that's really close to something (better) on MTS2. I went searching for it but I can't find it--does anyone know what I'm talking about (or have a link)?

Teehee, you didn't read the whole thread did you? :p

The better curly hair is from MYOS (a.k.a SimsArtistsUnion or SAU)

I read the whole thing :D (life, I haz none).  It's a really short, close hair. I edited my post with the male one because it's closer to the free hair. Apparently the female one is gone.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Astonished lemons on 2008 August 02, 02:40:59
I absolutley hate it when pay creators (for lack of a better word) copy off of good, free artists, (and botch it in the attempt)
But I think its funny in a twisted sor of way when they try to copy other pay creators.

Its like theyre intentionally trying to make a fuglier hair.

(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g179/zoeycat123/Extras/raonscam.jpg)

(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g179/zoeycat123/Extras/rosehairscam.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: gabbi_the_insomniac on 2008 August 02, 04:04:53


(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g179/zoeycat123/Extras/raonscam.jpg)



Don't mean to burst your bubble, but that Raonjena hair is donation :(


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: mando on 2008 August 02, 04:25:13
Don't mean to burst your bubble, but that Raonjena hair is donation :(

Astonished lemons is well aware of that, gabbi. See the following quote:

But I think its funny in a twisted sort of way when they try to copy other pay creators.

Its like theyre intentionally trying to make a fuglier hair.




Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2008 August 02, 04:27:38
Still from a pay site, still shit, and still too high poly most likely.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 August 02, 04:34:16
sucks to be you, gabbi, first post and you blew it!    ;)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SnarkyShark on 2008 August 02, 04:41:48
Blech. They both look like something you'd see in an Eva Gabor wig catalog should you make the mistake of actually opening one up.

Raon (flipping through Eva's catalog) : "Ooooh, these feathery bangs are lovely! Better mesh it before that bitch Rose does!"

Rose (flipping through Eva's catalog): "Fuckin' Raon ain't gonna get the jump on me this time!"

Eva Gabor: "Darlinks, just because you're bald doesn't mean you have to look unglamorous!"


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Markus on 2008 August 02, 08:18:30
http://thewigcompany.com/product.asp_Q_pn_E_175 (http://thewigcompany.com/product.asp_Q_pn_E_175)

Snarky is right about where the idea came from. ;D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Panthpirate on 2008 August 02, 08:20:29
Heh, it's funny how shitty these objects are that people expect moniez for.  DO NOT WANT.

I ROFL in pity at SimsConnection, their objects are awfully made, and their clothing meshes are really awkward. Not to mention their fugly hair. Blegh... I actually haven't visited them in a long time, and you can see why.  ::)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Dr House on 2008 August 02, 13:22:15
I wonder if you all would call some of these things beautiful if they were free
And that proves that you should LURK MOAR. Approximatively once a week for one of the pics posted for luling at paystuff a couple of us will spontaneously say something like "I like it in fact :-["...

Wow that simconnection's curly short hair is so ugly ;D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: gabbi_the_insomniac on 2008 August 02, 14:34:09
sucks to be you, gabbi, first post and you blew it!    ;)

xD!!!!

Yeah I suck!

I apparently can't read early in the morning. :P


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Tabby on 2008 August 02, 15:28:03
 The link to the wig catalog will keep me busy for hours I'm afraid. LOL

 Gabbi, that's why you read, think, and read again. If I don't check the prior posts at least a couple of times, I completely miss the point. There again, I usually have at least one kid in my lap, or yelling in my ear. Birth control FTW!  ;)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 August 02, 15:54:14
Pffft. I think it was a genuine mistake - I could have made it - not the end of the world - it's not like her first post was "i <3 Peggi!!!!!1!!" - that would have been fail. LURKing MOAR not required here.  ;)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Bella the Paysite Slayer on 2008 August 02, 16:19:32
All I can say about the TS2 pay crap I'm seeing is "Yuck!" :-X

How about we get some TS1 action in here, eh? ;)

Observe:

(http://www.simsnobs.com/themes/images/Prince-Bedroom.jpg)

Blurry pay "Medieval" bedroom from Sim Snobs that will probably bleed through walls or...

(http://i35.tinypic.com/29w8uom.jpg)

Sharp, detailed free Medieval bedroom set from Parsimonious that won't bleed through anything.

Next:

(http://www.simsnobs.com/images/Deco-Dining.jpg)

An antique dining room set, another blurry, "bleed-through-walls" pay set from Sim Snobs or...

(http://i38.tinypic.com/9quya0.jpg)

This beautiful free antique dining room set from Parsimonious (That, of course, won't bleed through anything. ;D).

 


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 August 02, 16:27:31
You're hotlinking to a free site Bella - stop it.  You're hurting Parsimonious doing that.  >:(


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Bella the Paysite Slayer on 2008 August 02, 17:30:40
What? ??? What's hotlinking?  (I'm a n00b. :P)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Anouk on 2008 August 02, 17:35:32
You should have listened and deleted it immediately. Didn't she just say it's bad enough to hurt Parasiminous?!?

You are linking directly to their images in you img tags. Fix or delete. We're not here to harm free sites.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Topaz on 2008 August 02, 17:51:38
basically save the images to your computer and upload them to imageshack (http://imageshack.us) then use the codes from there.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 August 02, 18:47:52
Follow what Topaz says - you're using Parsimonious' bandwidth (which costs them money - the same thing you use to download from their site with) to display that picture here.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Millie on 2008 August 02, 19:05:45
sucks to be you, gabbi, first post and you blew it!    ;)

xD!!!!

Yeah I suck!

I apparently can't read early in the morning. :P

Just don't do it over at MATY. My butt still hurts, and my ears doth ring.  :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Bella the Paysite Slayer on 2008 August 02, 19:54:07
What's this "imageshack" you speak of?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: fway on 2008 August 02, 19:58:13
What's this "imageshack" you speak of?

Imageshack is a pile of crap, it used to be good. Use photobucket. You just create a user name and you can copy the links of multiple images and they get transloaded, which don't hurt the bandwitdth of the site at all, however they get hosted to your photobucket account, which isn't a bad thing. There is also an IMG tag when your image gets uploaded. 

I only suggest you use Photobucket for Free site images only. We only want the paysites to get butthurt, that's where the hotlinking comes in. After that, you'll be doin' it right everyday!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Owl on 2008 August 02, 19:59:37
or you could use tinypic, you don't need to register there.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 August 02, 20:00:43
What's this "imageshack" you speak of?

I'm sure Parsimonious will appreciate you not changing a damn thing until you get your head around this, particularly since you keep replying, ensuring that new people will continue to load this page. EDIT YOUR FUCKING POST TO STOP THE HOTLINKING.  >:(


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Piratey on 2008 August 02, 20:02:26
mdhttr's Antique Bakery Set @ MTS2:
*snipped pics*

VS.

Simconnection's "French" Bakery Set

*incinerated pic*
Wow, the Antique Bakery Set is absolutely STUNNING! Quite possibly one of the best pieces of CC I've ever seen period.

As for the "French" Bakery Set... It's the very definition of payshit.

Oh, and Bella: http://imageshack.us/ (http://imageshack.us/). Although I seriously recommend Photobucket. Imageshack images barely last more than 3 days...


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Topaz on 2008 August 02, 20:09:47
I left a link on purpose ::) edit that damn post.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 August 02, 20:16:11
Wow, I feel like such a royal dumbass.   :-\  Here I've been reading the FAQ (religiously) and trying to stay away from doing bad things, and I just realized that I hotlinked a couple Helga images back there.   :'(

Bella, listen to calalilly. Seriously. You are showing neither appreciation nor support for parsimonious by keeping that photo up.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: pickles on 2008 August 02, 20:20:11
At least there's another page now, it won't bring up that one every time there's a new post.
Speaking of, if I adblock the image, will it still use their bandwidth?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Dr House on 2008 August 02, 20:28:45
Imageshack images barely last more than 3 days...
Nonsense. Here's a macro i uploaded to Imageshack FEBRUARY 25TH and i don't have an account there (kept the link in a text).
(http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/639/donotwantda8.jpg)
Apparently the pic is still hosted ::) And unlike photobucket, imageshack doesn't need any account... Nyanya :P


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: fway on 2008 August 02, 20:39:03

Apparently the pic is still hosted ::) And unlike photobucket, imageshack doesn't need any account... Nyanya :P

Yes, but can it slice and dice tomatoes in seconds?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Piratey on 2008 August 02, 20:45:44
Imageshack images barely last more than 3 days...
Nonsense. Here's a macro i uploaded to Imageshack FEBRUARY 25TH and i don't have an account there (kept the link in a text).
(http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/639/donotwantda8.jpg)
Apparently the pic is still hosted ::) And unlike photobucket, imageshack doesn't need any account... Nyanya :P
Well I was exaggerating a bit. But seriously, most (but not all) Imageshack images don't last very long. I can't tell you how annoying it is to find threads with loads of pictures that sound interesting  or something I'm after but no longer exist. That's why Photobucket is better long term.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Dr House on 2008 August 02, 20:54:03
Funny 'cause all the broken images links i see in that forum are photobucket's. But each one his taste. I prefer imageshack 'cause i'm tired of registering everywhere on the internet. I have so many logs, gah! :-\
fway, in fact it's a "shack", not a "hack" :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Bella the Paysite Slayer on 2008 August 02, 20:54:25
or you could use tinypic, you don't need to register there.

Best. Advice. Ever.  Thank you, Owl. :-*

What's this "imageshack" you speak of?

I'm sure Parsimonious will appreciate you not changing a damn thing until you get your head around this, particularly since you keep replying, ensuring that new people will continue to load this page. EDIT YOUR FUCKING POST TO STOP THE HOTLINKING.  >:(

Grow up, asshole. >:(  I'm still fairly new to the world of internet and forums, m'kay?  Plus, I do have a life outside of PMBD; I've been pretty busy today.   I edited my fucking post, no thanks to you.  Happy?!?

People, all I was doing was trying to participate in the free vs. paysite thread.  Must you make so much drama over crap like this?  If I made a "no-no," tell me I fucked up, don't scream it at me.  Also, explain to me why I fucked up.  I have "n00b" stamped all over me.  Spank me, but don't maim nor kill me.  Only T$R mods would do something like that.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Piratey on 2008 August 02, 21:01:15
Spank me, but don't maim nor kill me.  Only T$R mods would do something like that.
I dunno... Judging by certain other threads, I think spanking is something TSR very much enjoys doing.  ;D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Dr House on 2008 August 02, 21:03:42
I'ld even say more: TSR mods looooove banning accounts for whatever reason. Even say that a set is not working gets you banned!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 August 02, 21:18:17
Grow up, asshole. >:(

Aaaaahhhhh, yes... because only mature people resort to name calling.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: redisenchanted on 2008 August 02, 21:19:02
or you could use tinypic, you don't need to register there.

Best. Advice. Ever.  Thank you, Owl. :-*

What's this "imageshack" you speak of?

I'm sure Parsimonious will appreciate you not changing a damn thing until you get your head around this, particularly since you keep replying, ensuring that new people will continue to load this page. EDIT YOUR FUCKING POST TO STOP THE HOTLINKING.  >:(

Grow up, asshole. >:(  I'm still fairly new to the world of internet and forums, m'kay?  Plus, I do have a life outside of PMBD; I've been pretty busy today.   I edited my fucking post, no thanks to you.  Happy?!?

People, all I was doing was trying to participate in the free vs. paysite thread.  Must you make so much drama over crap like this?  If I made a "no-no," tell me I fucked up, don't scream it at me.  Also, explain to me why I fucked up.  I have "n00b" stamped all over me.  Spank me, but don't maim nor kill me.  Only T$R mods would do something like that.

Bella, chill. You did something stupid and kept going with it even when told otherwise. You should have edited out the pics completely until you figured it out. We found it annoying that you would reply, keep loading the page, and not do anything to fix it. Now you know better.

If you get chewed out on this forum, you deserve it. So take your lumps and quit whining, all will soon be forgiven.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Topaz on 2008 August 02, 21:21:07
No need to call calla an asshole now is there. go sober up, too much rum... wait you can never have too much rum. need moar rum!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Bella the Paysite Slayer on 2008 August 02, 21:34:47
or you could use tinypic, you don't need to register there.

Best. Advice. Ever.  Thank you, Owl. :-*

What's this "imageshack" you speak of?

I'm sure Parsimonious will appreciate you not changing a damn thing until you get your head around this, particularly since you keep replying, ensuring that new people will continue to load this page. EDIT YOUR FUCKING POST TO STOP THE HOTLINKING.  >:(

Grow up, asshole. >:(  I'm still fairly new to the world of internet and forums, m'kay?  Plus, I do have a life outside of PMBD; I've been pretty busy today.   I edited my fucking post, no thanks to you.  Happy?!?

People, all I was doing was trying to participate in the free vs. paysite thread.  Must you make so much drama over crap like this?  If I made a "no-no," tell me I fucked up, don't scream it at me.  Also, explain to me why I fucked up.  I have "n00b" stamped all over me.  Spank me, but don't maim nor kill me.  Only T$R mods would do something like that.

Bella, chill. You did something stupid and kept going with it even when told otherwise. You should have edited out the pics completely until you figured it out. We found it annoying that you would reply, keep loading the page, and not do anything to fix it. Now you know better.

If you get chewed out on this forum, you deserve it. So take your lumps and quit whining, all will soon be forgiven.

I had to step away from my PC to go out to dine with family, right after calalily gave me that "reply" to my post.  Besides, I changed the post already!  Tinypic now hosts the photos (except the Sim Snobs ones).  C'mon, we're beating a dead horse here! :P   


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 August 02, 21:39:31
C'mon, we're beating a dead horse here! :P   

No, we're beating a dead horse. You're playing horse.  ;D
Sorry, I had to say that.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Anyerfillag on 2008 August 02, 21:50:44
I think the issue was that you kept on replying and THEN edited the post, which to us seemed like you were ignoring us. Hotlinking is bad, especially when it comes to free sites that can be shut down or bandwith hogged due to it - we want them to stay open and not to cause them harm.

And name calling isn't going to get you anywhere...


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Viking Marta on 2008 August 02, 22:10:56
Hey Bella, I understand about not knowing what to do about hotlinking.  When I joined here, I didn't know what it meant either...come to think of it, I still don't get it.  But I remember not long ago there was quite a long discussion (as I recall) that hotlinking was not allowed at all.  My solution is that I don't post pictures at all.  And I'm lucky because if I ever did decide to, the only way I would be able to would be through photobucket.

However, you lost my sympathy when you started being insulting.  Even if you felt attacked, and didn't understand why, going on the offensive does not solve the problem.  It's usually best to just figure out as quickly as possible the actual problem and fix it.  There is no reason to respond like you did. Think of it this way, if you didn't like being attacked, don't pass it on.  And don't stoop to calling names.  It's not fair and it's frankly childish.


Am I being to nice for this forum?  i'z don't wanz be kickded off :'(


 ;)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Anyerfillag on 2008 August 02, 22:23:37
http://altlab.com/hotlinking.html

Check that site out - it explains it. Basically, hotlinking means you directly link to am image on a site; this means that when ever anyone opens or reads a post/thread with a hotlinked image it means that more and more of the site's bandwith will be eaten away at, meaning that they will have to shut down due to going over their set bandwith untill they can a) get it sorted and find the culprit or b) wait till the next month and reopen or c) pay for more bandwith...and seeing as free sites don't charge this means they can't do c and have to shut for a while.

Or you could see it (in my eyes) as someone telling everyone that there is a stall filled with juicy apples, and without the stall owners knowledge people take them - they loose profit (or in this case site space) and have to shut down as they can't afford to stay open.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Bella the Paysite Slayer on 2008 August 02, 22:32:15
Hey Bella, I understand about not knowing what to do about hotlinking.  When I joined here, I didn't know what it meant either...come to think of it, I still don't get it.  But I remember not long ago there was quite a long discussion (as I recall) that hotlinking was not allowed at all.  My solution is that I don't post pictures at all.  And I'm lucky because if I ever did decide to, the only way I would be able to would be through photobucket.

However, you lost my sympathy when you started being insulting.  Even if you felt attacked, and didn't understand why, going on the offensive does not solve the problem.  It's usually best to just figure out as quickly as possible the actual problem and fix it.  There is no reason to respond like you did. Think of it this way, if you didn't like being attacked, don't pass it on.  And don't stoop to calling names.  It's not fair and it's frankly childish.


Am I being to nice for this forum?  i'z don't wanz be kickded off :'(

calalily was attacking me, what was I to do?  It tried to play nice (as much as PMBD allowed), but calalily wouldn't let it.  I didn't know what the fuck I was doing or what the fuck "hotlinking" is.  I didn't know what the fuck "Imageshack" was.  It's called being a n00b.  I've been hooked up to the internet for less than 5 yrs and in forums for less than 1.  I understand PMBD is the home of complete and total assholes, and I appreciate that.  But, beating the piss out of n00bs is the lowest of the low.  Even normal assholes pick stronger targets to pummel to the ground.  T$R mods are the type of assholes that beat, maim, and kill n00bs before they even have a chance to breathe.  Beating on n00bs is like clubbing kittehs: it's incredibly inhumane.  If a kitteh fucks up, you appropriately scold it and move on.  You don't aim a machine gun at it and blow it into 5 million pieces.  Only a sick, twisted waste of life wouldn't grant the same mercy to a n00b.

Rant over. >:( 


 ;)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Topaz on 2008 August 02, 22:37:57
don't worry. just don't do it again, read the forum rules and anything you don't understand google it ;)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Anyerfillag on 2008 August 02, 22:38:44
Don't like it *points* the door is over there. If you knew we were prone to ripping apart n00bs who lacked any sort of sense (i.e. not reading FAQs, demanding requests are done, uploads, trolling etc) then why join?

She attacked you (if you can call it that) because you kept on posting without removing the hotlinked image - of course she was going to get pissed. And beating on n00bs is like beating on kittens? What fucked up world do you live in?! Its online, its just text - beating kittens for real is inhumane, not slagging someone off online ::)

Meh, I forgot about the n00b/newb difference - in my defense, I can't tollerate text/chat speak and always write as correctly as I can


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: missangelica on 2008 August 02, 22:50:26
calalily was attacking me, what was I to do?  It tried to play nice (as much as PMBD allowed), but calalily wouldn't let it.  I didn't know what the fuck I was doing or what the fuck "hotlinking" is.  I didn't know what the fuck "Imageshack" was.  It's called being a n00b.  I've been hooked up to the internet for less than 5 yrs and in forums for less than 1.  I understand PMBD is the home of complete and total assholes, and I appreciate that.  But, beating the piss out of n00bs is the lowest of the low.  Even normal assholes pick stronger targets to pummel to the ground.  T$R mods are the type of assholes that beat, maim, and kill n00bs before they even have a chance to breathe.  Beating on n00bs is like clubbing kittehs: it's incredibly inhumane.  If a kitteh fucks up, you appropriately scold it and move on.  You don't aim a machine gun at it and blow it into 5 million pieces.  Only a sick, twisted waste of life wouldn't grant the same mercy to a n00b.

Rant over. >:( 


 ;)

N00bs and Newbs are completely different.  I know in the context of your post you meant "newb" but you are acting like a "n00b".  You weren't be attacked.  You were being corrected.  Grow a thicker skin.  We're not the assholes here.

BTW, if you did not know what hotlinking was, you should have done what others do and googled it to find out.  You are on the internet with all of its wonderful resources and answers.  Use it.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Bella the Paysite Slayer on 2008 August 02, 22:53:27
don't worry. just don't do it again, read the forum rules and anything you don't understand google it ;)

Thank you, Topaz.  I will remember that. :D  (*purposely ignoring further comments on matter*)  Can we get back on topic?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Topaz on 2008 August 02, 23:08:32
yes we will...

Simmetrical crappy photoskin textures.
(http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/3086/hazyshadesharapril06po2.jpg)

Nouk, maxis textures but still free!
(http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/55/armywifepvpq7.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Viking Marta on 2008 August 02, 23:52:05
ooh, so much prettier.   The first almost looks like real hair photoshopped on as texture...wait is it?...whatever it is creepy.  Not even shampoo-commercial hair, just frizzy-real hair burned by the straightener.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Beth on 2008 August 03, 00:12:30
Looks like they've got neutral coloured hair, and put a layer of colour over it in PS and lowered the opacity.

Lameo.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: keirra on 2008 August 03, 01:28:49
Thank you, Topaz.  I will remember that. :D  (*purposely ignoring further comments on matter*)  Can we get back on topic?

I will be curious to see if you can ignore Calalily's response to your post.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 August 03, 01:34:47
Oh yeah, I forgot cala hasn't replied to that yet.

[insert MOAR FIGHT macro]


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2008 August 03, 02:05:31
Put it like this: if you think she was attacking you, you ain't seen nothing yet. Been on the net for less than five years? Uh huh. Yeah.  Right. Whatever. We haz FAQ. Yu pleez reed FAQ. Yu lern mani stuffz bout site. Den yu no get buttz choo'ed no moar. You don't wanna read the thing and keep on whining? Then get prepared for getting an ass-ripping from the people that have tried to help you in the past. We can forgive one mistake, we can forgive two mistakes, but if you keep on making them we're gonna pick up the text book and cram the lesson into your skull one way or another. Now, if you'll pardon me, I'm in a pissy mood because my one fucking day off from taking care of the family in a fucking year has been canceled due to lack of sleeping accommodations. So, I get no rumz, no beerz and no quiet time to myself at all.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 August 03, 02:14:27
What a bad excuse, though, huh? I mean, come on, being hooked up to the net for less than 5 years? I've been hooked up for less than 2. Moreover, my family didn't even have a phone until I was 16. But I still know enough not to call people assholes - particularly when they've been on a site longer than I have!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: keirra on 2008 August 03, 02:18:03
I don't really think it's a big deal that she called Cala an asshole because Cala has been here longer. Cala's personality is what I think makes it interesting.

*waits for Cala's response because she's always an interesting read


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2008 August 03, 02:28:18
It is so a big deal cause I have copyright when it comes to calling cala an asshole! Read the cult handbook! You get to call her a motherfucker, Hec gets to call her a bitch, Pooki gets to call her Queen Shit, and I get to call her asshole... Or didn't you get the new Cult of Calalily handbook that came out last month?? Damn, I knew there was someone on the mailing list that got skipped!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: gabbi_the_insomniac on 2008 August 03, 03:41:31


 Gabbi, that's why you read, think, and read again. If I don't check the prior posts at least a couple of times, I completely miss the point. There again, I usually have at least one kid in my lap, or yelling in my ear. Birth control FTW!  ;)

...and to conclude the show kids, thats why Gabbi shouldn't post on forums before her coffee!

I'll be sure to read it 100000000000000 times next time ;)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 August 03, 03:55:14
sorry this was just puuurrr-fect!  ;D

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j61/miss_sabrina/funny-pictures-cat-teaches-you-the-.jpg)


*not meant to be rude just thought it was ironic :P*


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Dr House on 2008 August 03, 03:59:58
Awesome macro, snagged it! ;D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: vindi on 2008 August 03, 04:57:16
While moar fight is part of the phorum's atmosphere, it doesn't really seem fair to jump on someone because they're not net literate. She fixed the images already... It's not cool to annoy your intarweb elders, but on the other hand I (kinda) get why Bella reacted like that. (Control your temper, you're sooo not looking good by getting your panties in a twist.) :-\ But I have the Atwat thread for reading drama so I'm going to post moar Paysite pwning.

http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/696/696509.jpg <-- Jirka's super ugly Madonna... I would use img tags, but Jirka's never heard of cropping or resizing.

Or 2 classy Madonnas, one by Bruno and the other by Bakalia.
(http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3894/mts2490696brunocloseupvr2.jpg)
(http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/1360/mts2358669bakalia3ju5.jpg)

Edit: Stupid typo thingy.



Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 August 03, 05:07:03
What about this Chazdesigns Catherine Zeta Jones

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j61/miss_sabrina/sims2/w-250h-220-432371.jpg)

vs

MTS2 Escand's Catherine

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j61/miss_sabrina/sims2/CatherineZetaJonesheadshot.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 August 03, 06:34:56
Grow up, asshole. >:(  I'm still fairly new to the world of internet and forums, m'kay?  Plus, I do have a life outside of PMBD; I've been pretty busy today.   I edited my fucking post, no thanks to you.  Happy?!?

It is you who is a whiny baby - I'm not your wet nurse.  You were proficient enough to understand how to display the image, but not proficient enough to figure out how to use google to find out what hotlinking is? I don't believe that for a second - you want it handed to you on a plate, and until then you act like a dumb shit.

calalily was attacking me, what was I to do?  It tried to play nice (as much as PMBD allowed), but calalily wouldn't let it. <snip blah blah blah calalily has no life blah blah blah poor me blah blah blah compare calalily to paysite owner>

You're a true fuckwit Bella - every single time you're called on your shit you scream from the highest rooftops about your butthurt and how you are a victim. You suck, so:

(http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/3817/dieinafirexj2.jpg)

While moar fight is part of the phorum's atmosphere, it doesn't really seem fair to jump on someone because they're not net literate. She fixed the images already... It's not cool to annoy your intarweb elders, but on the other hand I (kinda) get why Bella reacted like that.

So we should endeavour to be nice to those who hurt freesites, and kindly guide them through the phorum like little lambs? You are so in the wrong place for that shit.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: deelink on 2008 August 03, 06:50:26
[So we should endeavour to be nice to those who hurt freesites, and kindly guide them through the phorum like little lambs? You are so in the wrong place for that shit.

Amen. Hotlinking has been debated in many places, until image hosting places florished. Now it's not even a big deal, just crete a sub folder, call it "Sims2 trash" and post.
Sure it's a little exra effort, but seriously...it adds quality to your post. IF you have something awesome to say, it strenghens in the few minutes you have preparing it. Quick ass hot linked posts are usually run off the mouth and not thought about throughly <-- perhaps a gross generalisation, but it has been known to happen.
It's important to think before you post. Especially in this place, where one must have thick-ass skin to survive.

Bad spelling FTW! Stupid boss computer...no Firefox...


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Silver Arrows on 2008 August 03, 16:28:15
Is there a reason Kate doesn't just disable hotlinking?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Piratey on 2008 August 03, 16:30:24
Is there a reason Kate doesn't just disable hotlinking?
Yeah I was wondering that too...


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 August 03, 16:46:11
It depends on the server configuration I think - not completely sure - and what you have access to. 


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Jojoba on 2008 August 03, 17:31:48
*Jojoba pulls an unimpressed face at Bella

Its a pity that moar fight suddenly appears in decent threads like this one.

Missbonbon, I didn't realise who Chaz's was meant to be..his 'talent' amazes me. The MTS2 one is so much better


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Topaz on 2008 August 03, 18:18:56
Death to all paysites so they become freesites! *passes rum and cookies* :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Skadi on 2008 August 03, 20:56:37
I cannot understand why anyone would touch a Chaz or Jirka sim ever. They are always either: fugly, unrecognisable or both. Maybe if you were looking for uglacy candidates.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: kenmtl on 2008 August 03, 21:37:47
Skadi can you just tell me who I need to pay to have that avatar hurled into space at the speed of light directly into a black hole.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Pirate Jenny on 2008 August 03, 21:57:18
This thread's been good for my health as a pirate. I think paysites are shite, but I keep downloading the stuff (with a five finger discount) because I always thought that if you wanted the best you had to ... well, not PAY, but at least give them the benefit of knowing their stuff is worth nabbing. But when you see some of the more popular stuff side by side with free content it's obvious where the talent is.

It just makes the 'But I need the moneys for working sooo hard!' bullshit even harder to swallow. The people who make this stuff for free have more fun, and it shows when people enjoy what they do. I think paysite creators end up making stuff only grudgingly and with as little effort as they can, because they're not doing it for poops and giggles any more.

I'm not saying anything that hasn't been said. I just haven't had a good rummage for good comparison pics yet. I'll go away now. Um... yarr. Et cetera.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2008 August 03, 22:30:12
I think I agree.  I know that Windkeeper's free stuff on MTS2 is really good stuff - her mods for the cas screens especially are useful.  I don't think her TSR stuff is nearly as good.

Another thing is likely a feeling of a deadline - when its free, you can take your time.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: fway on 2008 August 04, 01:32:33
I cannot understand why anyone would touch a Chaz or Jirka sim ever. They are always either: fugly, unrecognisable or both. Maybe if you were looking for uglacy candidates.

The thing is Chaz uses the same facial structure for each sim he makes and photoskins the rest. So if you mixed Paris Hilton and Orlando bloom, you're either gonna get Paris Hilton or Orlando Bloom skintone. Maxis townie, on the other hand... yich, don't know. And don't want to know.

About Jirka, I'm not sure about, but hey if Jirka and Chaz are the same person, then I would think they do the same thing.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Skadi on 2008 August 04, 02:02:20
Skadi can you just tell me who I need to pay to have that avatar hurled into space at the speed of light directly into a black hole.
If you mean my Toadette, appeal to the Pirate King. It's an enforced avatar.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Dr House on 2008 August 04, 02:05:55
I know Pes blocked your avi with that toad... But i don't know why ??? *dies of curiosity* What happened to have pes's wrath upon you?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: deelink on 2008 August 04, 02:15:03
I love the Toadette, she's cute. I usually play her and Toad in Mario Kart Double Dash.
:P They are awesome.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 August 04, 06:26:19
*dies of curiosity* What happened to have pes's wrath upon you?

http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,12475.msg354854.html#msg354854 (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,12475.msg354854.html#msg354854) - it's in Retardo Land, so you'll have to be logged in - halfway down the page. No wrath, just general mischief.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paleoanth on 2008 August 04, 06:59:55
I must be blind.  I didn't see anything pertaining to you there.  Help.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 August 04, 07:10:03
I must be blind.  I didn't see anything pertaining to you there.  Help.

That's because it's the "story" of how Skadi got her enforced avi and "Mushroom Girl" title.  ;)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Piratey on 2008 August 04, 09:42:31
lol that thread is priceless!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Dr House on 2008 August 04, 13:15:09
Ah shit apparently my MATY account was banned. Well at least it's not working anymore. Have to register again :'( WHY?!!
I registered months ago but never posted, is that a banning reason or what?!

EDIT: I had to register (i used the same name and password) & it worked. Whatever..... :-\


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 August 04, 14:59:44
Ah shit apparently my MATY account was banned.

Not banned - Pes purges those who haven't talked and haven't logged in for a while - he does it here too. When we switched to smf, total members 5000 or so - and a lot of members were purged.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Piratey on 2008 August 04, 15:22:46
It's actually a good thing in a way, as it means throwaway accounts and accounts that are permanently inactive and take up usernames can be cleared. Out of interest, do you happen to know how long such inactivity has to be before they are purged?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Lord Darcy on 2008 August 04, 15:36:25
Extra Deco Slots for most Maxis furnitures.

You know you want it (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,12570.0.html)

Compared to the Anoeska desk just for FT, that LordDarcy had to fix *anyway*

<snip>

To be fair, Anoeska's "Maxis More Functional" superset adds decorative slots on EP dressers and vanity tables as well. (But not the ones from SPs.) And those sets are not just about decorative slots newly created on Maxis furniture, as they include other things like cloned FT electronics or modified Seasons coat rack. You can keep mine for decorative slots, and cherrypick other things from her sets. I have no use for an identical clone of sewing machine when you can clutter it with end table OMSPs (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,11366.0.html) to your heart's content.

I was more annoyed by the ridiculously looooong file names found in her sets. And separating the fixes one by one into tiny packets. WTF. If you want decorative slots at all, you want them on ALL objects, not just on one dresser.
Of course, being TSR, it would make more sense for FAs to eke their products out into several different sets, rather than offering them as one single download.  That way, it would be easier to meet their quota. ::)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: cookiepirate on 2008 August 04, 15:51:56
Ah shit apparently my MATY account was banned.

Not banned - Pes purges those who haven't talked and haven't logged in for a while - he does it here too. When we switched to smf, total members 5000 or so - and a lot of members were purged.

Which is why I don't log out very often anymore.  I had to re-register a couple of months ago, I suppose for inactivity.  I'm non-posting lurker there.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Dr House on 2008 August 04, 15:54:45
Out of interest, do you happen to know how long such inactivity has to be before they are purged?
Last time i logged was around 2 months ago, i think.
Yup my account must have been purged with the SMF change since i never posted.
Meh, it's alright. It took me just 10 seconds to recreate my account, it really doesn't matter. It's just the surprise that gave me an
(http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/249/28ohnoesrh4.jpg)
moment. :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 August 04, 16:03:47
Hmmm my account must have been purged as well since I just lurked there :(


So this morning I was thinking.... I can't really think of a pay creator that makes mods for the sims. I mean there's some that make hacks, but not mods. Nothing that will change your sims lifespan, nothing like what lord darcy does and *fixes* the game. Another reason why free is better than pay....... free fixes maxis mistakes  :P


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 August 04, 17:57:55
Out of interest, do you happen to know how long such inactivity has to be before they are purged?

I have no idea - the longest I've been away from either site is 8 days when I was on holiday. :P Pescado didn't purge me - so not 8 days.  :D

To be fair, Anoeska's "Maxis More Functional" superset adds decorative slots on EP dressers and vanity tables as well. (But not the ones from SPs.)

Well, that's what I get for not using pay content :P I just took it that the one that crashes your game was the only one made.

I was more annoyed by the ridiculously looooong file names found in her sets. And separating the fixes one by one into tiny packets. WTF. If you want decorative slots at all, you want them on ALL objects, not just on one dresser.
Of course, being TSR, it would make more sense for FAs to eke their products out into several different sets, rather than offering them as one single download.  That way, it would be easier to meet their quota. ::)

I agree - I want them all.  I also suspect that they do it to flood the page with 3000 FA things to tempt more subscribers.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dietofworms on 2008 August 04, 18:24:17
But of course they do.  First the FA's change the sliders on their hues menu in increments of  1 to mass- produce 60 sets of the same objects in (slightly) different colors.  Then they compile the sets in different configurations and call them "supersets". (And really, who wouldn't want a SUPERset?)  :D   And then--this is my personal favorite--they change an object they made last week into a "new" object by altering it slightly via a different texture in the flood fill.



Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Owl on 2008 August 04, 19:04:21
Nouk is always win. Always  ;D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Pirate Jenny on 2008 August 04, 19:46:40
OK, so I've been out in my dinghy and found way too many comparison pictures. Admittedly the pay stuff isn't all eye-gougingly bad, but when you got a similar equivalent and it's free, the free content could be utter arsecrack and it would still be better by default.

Shakeshaft at TSR $$$ Vs. Ogularama
(http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee333/yamlin/shakeshaft.jpg) (http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee333/yamlin/ogwheelbarrowflowerlarge1.jpg)

Cyclonesue at TSR (I think) $$$ Vs. Ogularama
(http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee333/yamlin/323040.jpg) (http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee333/yamlin/ogoildrumlarge1.jpg)

Wood For Sims $$$ Vs. Parsimonious
(http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee333/yamlin/wfs2bavariadin1blue_scr1_713-600x44.jpg) (http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee333/yamlin/k8-Chequered_Past_Dining.jpg)

Vita Sims $$$ Vs. Parsimonious
(http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee333/yamlin/vicshop7.gif) (http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee333/yamlin/k8-Trading_Places.jpg)

Sunair at TSR $$$ Vs. Parsimonious
(http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee333/yamlin/744701.jpg) (http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee333/yamlin/k8-Princess_Bedroom.jpg)

Exnem $$$ Vs. eris3000 at MtS
(http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee333/yamlin/xnm_food_cake001_01.jpg) (http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee333/yamlin/MTS2_eris3000_792398_snapshot_95952.jpg)

Somebody I can't remember at TSR (well, they start to merge, especially after the rum) $$$ versus Sims2Play
(http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee333/yamlin/612905.jpg) (http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee333/yamlin/sims2play.jpg)

I have more, too. But my post is too long already and I'm also starting to need a whizz.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: redisenchanted on 2008 August 04, 20:08:02
Awesome pics Pirate Jenny! Amazing isn't it? Free stuff is always better.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Dr House on 2008 August 04, 20:13:37
Wow, thanks Pirate Jenny, i didn't know there was a new food mesher at MTS2 *hurries to pillage*
Parsimonious make indeed awesome meshes, just like Sims2Play. High quality stuff that bloats my download folder!
I'm sure EA stole Ogularama's nachos dish and made the freetime appetisers with it :(
Ogularama don't make a lot of stuff but they're very good quality, go check his halloween theme for some fun stuff :)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Panthpirate on 2008 August 04, 20:18:53
Wow that Parsimonious plaid dining set looks adorable! *runs off to download*

However those pay sets gave me butthurt, literally. (Or maybe that's because I spent the whole morning sitting in this damn chair  :P)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Pirate Jenny on 2008 August 04, 20:19:59
I'm mostly just confused as to why Exnem thinks it's a good idea to grout a cake.

I tried to put mouseover tags with [witty] descriptions pointing out the precise inferiority of the pay stuff, but I failed right mightily.

 Dr House: I deleted my Ogularama nachos because the EA appetiser platter was pretty similar and having too much choice gives me brain disease and wind.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 August 04, 20:33:13
I really, really love those sims2play curtains. For some reason, the color schemes make me want to mewl with pleasure.  :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SnarkyShark on 2008 August 04, 21:19:06
Thanks for the comparisons, Pirate Jenny. The side-by-side layout of your post was very effective. Great job.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Dr House on 2008 August 04, 22:25:12
I deleted my Ogularama nachos because the EA appetiser platter was pretty similar and having too much choice gives me brain disease and wind.
I kept Ogularama's dish because it's available to all sims, not only those with cooking hobby (and already at 2 or 3 points can't remember), plus it's a hot dish with a steam: moar realistic. Moreover the serving dish looks way better, EA's servings look so bare and empty :-[ When i got it i modified the menu to make a new category: Serve appetiser\Nachos and added several other CC food that were better in that category. I love having choice for foods, my sims can make all kind of theme menus and restaurants are very specialized: italian restaurant, pizzeria, Mac Donald, french restaurant, russian one... :P


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: kenmtl on 2008 August 05, 00:12:31
Skadi can you just tell me who I need to pay to have that avatar hurled into space at the speed of light directly into a black hole.
If you mean my Toadette, appeal to the Pirate King. It's an enforced avatar.

I guess it's more the colour than anything. It's a little eye-catching, lets just say that. Maybe just see if we could slap an eyepatch on it or something. Think the big man has a paypal account? I'm willing to spend up to $5.00 including tax and service fees.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Thing on 2008 August 05, 01:08:51
Think the big man has a paypal account?

 :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: FilthyPriest on 2008 August 05, 02:38:15
Pay Crap can never compare to a creation created with the love of a FREE simmer.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Dr House on 2008 August 05, 02:45:28
Think the big man has a paypal account?
ROFL ;D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: fway on 2008 August 05, 05:52:35
Bailey and Hrekkjavaka's (@ MTS2) delicious emo/scene clothing vs. Evi's vomit enducing payshit that gives you food poisoning because your downloads folder ate it.

Bailey:
(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk221/hekkahekkawhat/MTS2_551598_bailelizabeth_505001014.jpg)
(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk221/hekkahekkawhat/MTS2_500186_bailelizabeth_1tall.jpg)

Hrekkjavaka:
(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk221/hekkahekkawhat/MTS2_603305_hrekkjavaka_astarkort_1.jpg)



Icky Evi clothing:
(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/tmp/700/700685.jpg)


OT: Can anyone tell me if Bailey is making anything new, and where she is? I'd love to see more from her. She said in her profile @ MTS2 she stopped creating. *shrugs


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: liegenschonheit on 2008 August 05, 05:59:12
She can be found here: http://similik.proboards54.com/

In my opinion, the forum is a little cliquish and a bit 12, but it isn't too terrible :P
They are a little obsessed with photoshopping and frankensimming for my taste, but meh. To each his own.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: wyrdwing on 2008 August 05, 15:08:59
I hate sofas with the image that they connect then you find out it has loads of pieces and it seems like a waste of catalog space.
(http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/9253/629373zo4.th.jpg) (http://img403.imageshack.us/my.php?image=629373zo4.jpg)
http://www.thesimsresource.com/downloads/sims2/sets/objects/629373/ (http://www.thesimsresource.com/downloads/sims2/sets/objects/629373/)

Then you get a gem like this that actually comes in three pieces which connect to each other for free.
(http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/645/mts2blakeboy677386operaip5.th.jpg) (http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mts2blakeboy677386operaip5.jpg)
http://sumomo.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=262152 (http://sumomo.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=262152)

There's probably more but I couldn't find any because TSR search brings up unrelated FA anorexic stuff?!?  :o


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: fway on 2008 August 05, 21:16:14
I love Blake_boy's furniture. He's a genius, really.

Adele Poser Arenaria's piece of shit "Artist's Loft":
(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/tmp/760/760239.jpg)
http://www.thesimsresource.com/downloads/sims2/sets/rooms/livingrooms/760239/?yich

Vs. Adele's Amelia Living Room Set...

(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk221/hekkahekkawhat/MTS2_Adele_781856_adele_ameliaSet_a.jpg)
Better quality AND quantity.

http://hideki.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=292115

We already knows who wins this one... *nods*  ;D




Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Amy Lee on 2008 August 05, 21:58:55
most of the tsr paid items are just so ugly anyway! especially the hairs by featured artist! i just dont get that why ppl pay them to have their ugly stuff! and paysites should give up already! i dont understand why people pay yhem when they can have them all from here? do i get something wrong? ???


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 August 05, 22:01:45
They're called Sheeples, amy, and they pay because they don't know any better.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: keirra on 2008 August 05, 22:35:37
most of the tsr paid items are just so ugly anyway! especially the hairs by featured artist! i just dont get that why ppl pay them to have their ugly stuff! and paysites should give up already! i dont understand why people pay yhem when they can have them all from here? do i get something wrong? ???

Not everyone knows about the booty. Spread the word.  :)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Amy Lee on 2008 August 05, 22:48:15
^^ yeah sure but still theyre not worth to pay.I thought booty put enough scare on everyone lol :P


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 August 06, 02:06:58
But that's why we must spread the word amy :) I always try to do WCIF's on other forums, and post/pm the thread starter about the booty.

The thing is, unbelievable as it may be, there still are people who are just now coming into the sims 2 community of custom content. And if any of them played the sims 1, they surely will remember tsr. At the time it was the best free site, with the most downloads. But sims 2 changed that. They became pay, and Modthesims2 took tsr's spot. But a lot of people will just remember tsr, then thinking that is the best quality out there, will subscribe.

That's why anytime I read threads at other forums about any paysite, I usually direct them here. Helps broaden their horizons :)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Lilyroseisapirate on 2008 August 06, 02:57:29
hopefully the new ones won't have to look around much to find mts2, i remember way back in 02 when i first discovered CC for the sims1, and the all night internet dl sprees that summer, lol.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: lkthree on 2008 August 06, 05:11:25
OT: Can anyone tell me if Bailey is making anything new, and where she is? I'd love to see more from her. She said in her profile @ MTS2 she stopped creating. *shrugs

She also uploads to Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bailelizabeth/sets/72157600123890657/).


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: nekochanpurr on 2008 August 06, 06:04:27
Oh, i like this idea! Darn it.. Making me get the download cravings again.. heh.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Shan-Chan on 2008 August 06, 06:07:04
OT: Can anyone tell me if Bailey is making anything new, and where she is? I'd love to see more from her. She said in her profile @ MTS2 she stopped creating. *shrugs

She also uploads to Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bailelizabeth/sets/72157600123890657/).

Does anyone know why she keeps moving. Or why she makes content and then stops again for 12 years?

(Is this fail for my first post?)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: fway on 2008 August 06, 06:31:06
OT: Can anyone tell me if Bailey is making anything new, and where she is? I'd love to see more from her. She said in her profile @ MTS2 she stopped creating. *shrugs

She also uploads to Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bailelizabeth/sets/72157600123890657/).

Doesn't look like she's uploaded in a while... :/ I really hope she gets back to creating, I admire her stuff.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 August 06, 06:53:51
Does anyone know why she keeps moving. Or why she makes content and then stops again for 12 years?

Well, as to why she makes content and then stops - could be a number of reasons ranging from inspiration to a job. I think though why she keeps moving is because she's a target for some who don't like her stories, and post nasty messages - it was all over SimSecret for ages.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 August 06, 07:34:54

Well, as to why she makes content and then stops - could be a number of reasons ranging from inspiration to a job. I think though why she keeps moving is because she's a target for some who don't like her stories, and post nasty messages - it was all over SimSecret for ages.

Not to derail... but I missed these messages  ???


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 August 06, 08:52:27
The secret (http://i32.tinypic.com/2w3dijb.jpg) The response (http://flickr.com/photos/bailelizabeth/2608177861/)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: fway on 2008 August 06, 09:25:53
The secret (http://i32.tinypic.com/2w3dijb.jpg) The response (http://flickr.com/photos/bailelizabeth/2608177861/)

 :o I didn't know about THAT. . . well . . .  ??? . . . yeah.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Piratey on 2008 August 06, 09:45:10
Ignoring the actual, rather debatable, content of the picture, it's extremely well edited.

But still... fucked up (no pun intended) is the only way to describe that one... I'll never look at a tea party in the same way again.  :o

I actually thought the guy on the left was a woman at first.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Millie on 2008 August 06, 10:44:50
Gah. I need mental floss after reading that story!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: arrgh on 2008 August 06, 11:49:41
Not to stray too far OT but after skimming through Bailey's flickr:   WTF is with the androdgenous sims?   Am I too old to get it?  I enjoy men who look like men.  Give me body hair and scruff and calloused hands tyvm!  :-\


*clears throat*


Anyway because of this thread my downloads folder is growing out of control!  ;D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Millie on 2008 August 06, 13:01:48
It's kind of that way where we live. It's very difficult to tell the difference between boys and girls sometimes - especially the Emo crowd that my son aspires to. They all dress the same, and have the same hairdos, FGS!

I am with you on the body hair and calloused hands.  :P


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Anouk on 2008 August 06, 15:24:36
Hairy males ftw. The only thing a man should wax is his back.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 August 06, 16:18:09
Eww to fuzzy men. They shouldn't be lady like and shave their legs, but I also don't want my hand caught in their chest hair either...

And wow to the bailey thing.... Even though it is a bit messed up, I feel bad for her  :'(


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Ry on 2008 August 06, 18:51:48
 :-\
Um, yuck?
Incest, whether it's in the Sims or not, is disgusting, IMHO.
So, yeah. SimSecret lady, or gent, was way on the mark with that.
Shits just gross.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Jonesi on 2008 August 06, 20:04:08
I think the incest pic is one of best edited pics I've ever seen, regardless of the meaning behind it, it's definately an amazing piece of work.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Viking Marta on 2008 August 06, 20:13:10
I will admit there may be some technical skill behind the making of that pic.  Only because right as I am now, I don't know how.  But still.  It's not to difficult to come up with a better subject.  There was absolutely no meaning behind it other than the subjects taboo, and therefore the author can say "nah nah nah, I facing difficult subjects!" --and yet managing to say absolutely nothing.

It reminds me of the very first fanfic I ever found--and Fred/George twincest--without any warning tags at all. I hadn't even hit my teens yet, and still can't even think about looking at other HP fanfic. Scarred for life. :P


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: liegenschonheit on 2008 August 06, 20:16:02
I don't really care one way or the other about gay-underaged-incest crap. I've read doujinishi for long enough to know this is pretty par-for-the-course when it comes to fetishes. The thing about that photo that bothers me is actually the teacup in the mouth thing. If you grabbed a teacup by its handle with your mouth, it would have spilled pretty much immediately,unless the person carried the teacup up there in his hand and transferred it to his mouth just for dumping... In which case it seems all rather silly, don't it? :P

Also, that second boy has a teabag in his mouth. Have you ever tried to suck on a teabag (try not to read into that the wrong way)? Teabags are super concentrated. They are NASTY. You wouldn't want one in your mouth, they are very bitter.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Millie on 2008 August 06, 20:29:29


Also, that second boy has a teabag in his mouth. Have you ever tried to suck on a teabag (try not to read into that the wrong way)? Teabags are super concentrated. They are NASTY. You wouldn't want one in your mouth, they are very bitter.

The fact that you obviously know what you're talking about here, disturbs me greatly.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: gabbi_the_insomniac on 2008 August 06, 22:07:43
Disturbing pics  :-\
Saw all her pics, kinda regreting that i did...


This is kind of a controversial issue.

While incest definitely disturbs me, and I do not wish to promote it at all, the picture is beautiful.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2008 August 06, 22:17:08
Once after having a molar extracted, it wouldn't stop bleeding because the dentist nicked the bone. He told me to pack the hole with a teabag because the tannic acid in the tea would make the blood clot and thus stop the bleeding. It worked, but OMG did it ever taste horrid! Funny thing about that, it also helped to fight infection while it healed... Gross, but very effective. (Although I do wish I'd had something other than Earl Gray on hand because to this day I still can't stand that stuff.)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: LadyPirate on 2008 August 06, 23:29:09
I tried so hard not to contribute to the OT here but... My biggest problem is that they're not sims anymore. That's the trend that I hate the most right now in the community. People photoshop the hell out of their sims, and at that point, they aren't sims anymore. I'm not up for real life incest in any shape or form, and it doesn't bother me since I know it's not real, but i don't even find that picture "beautiful." Sadly, it's people who's sims aren't sims anymore that win all the contests and drive newcomers away.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Feverish on 2008 August 06, 23:58:10
I agree. No point in joining a contest because it's all about photoshopping. That is too much work and not nearly as fun as using in game stuff. It's also more work than play. Thats why I don't join those kind anymore. They progressively became more burdensome. When contests first started on mts2(before s2c) they were fun. Now the contests require photoshopping.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Panthpirate on 2008 August 07, 00:27:17
*gets eyebleach* Now I can never look at a photoshopped sim picture again without thinking about incest. *shivers*  :-X


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Feverish on 2008 August 07, 00:42:56
I actually thought it was a male and female. It was a nice picture aside from the incest part. I wouldn't go harassing her about it. I just wouldn't read it.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: PorkchopzNgravy on 2008 August 07, 01:22:25
Wen I first saw the picture, I could've sworn it was two girls. If it weren't for the bodies and the text I would've still thought they were girls.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Dr House on 2008 August 07, 01:28:32
Wow. Tea bag incest sex. Yeah. Right... It's even more strange than fish porn ::)

Okaaaay: back to the topic now.
Rose pay hair: (looks like polygons would break the roof btw)
(http://www.rosesims2.net/contribute/donation%20images/Rosedonate_0088-big.jpg)

And the beautiful and free Helga hair:
(http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/7286/027bigct8.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Markus on 2008 August 07, 01:41:12
I almost got scared away when I used to go on S2C last year. It seems to me that there's this attitude on some sites that if you don't use enough CC or Photshopping skills your sims and screenies aren't good enough. Really bugs me.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Dr House on 2008 August 07, 01:48:22
Yes, specially when you see their contest pics. All the winners are 1) exclusively made with pay CC and 2) hellishly photoshopped. Scary.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Shan-Chan on 2008 August 07, 03:23:08
I don't really care one way or the other about gay-underaged-incest crap. I've read doujinishi for long enough to know this is pretty par-for-the-course when it comes to fetishes.

Haha I second that. But I don't think her picture deserved rude comments. Comment on whats good about (like the FANTASTIC photoshop work for instance) even though thats not really the point of the picture. I hope she gets back to creating soon though. She's a very talented modder


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 August 07, 04:07:08
I don't really care one way or the other about gay-underaged-incest crap. I've read doujinishi for long enough to know this is pretty par-for-the-course when it comes to fetishes.

Haha I second that. But I don't think her picture deserved rude comments. Comment on whats good about (like the FANTASTIC photoshop work for instance) even though thats not really the point of the picture. I hope she gets back to creating soon though. She's a very talented modder

That's what I was trying to get at :) Eventhough the message of the picture isn't the best, the picture is still a nice picture.

I guess I like controversial things mostly because to understand them to have to think outside the box. I don't promote incest, but let's face it, it's a part of some people's lives. And how she choses to play her sims game, incest or not, it's her game.

But back on topic:

The rose hair, I didn't like. I actually deleted it and all recolors out of my game just because the hair was like dry noodles sitting on top of my sims head. No animations, and flat colors.

I haven't tried the Helga one but it does look very nice  ;D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Azaya on 2008 August 07, 05:30:35
I agree. No point in joining a contest because it's all about photoshopping.

For what it's worth, most of the contests on GoS don't permit much Photoshopping. Now I shall lurk some more.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Piratey on 2008 August 07, 11:12:23
I tried so hard not to contribute to the OT here but... My biggest problem is that they're not sims anymore. That's the trend that I hate the most right now in the community. People photoshop the hell out of their sims, and at that point, they aren't sims anymore.
I also hate the rather HUGE trend that male sims must look as femenine as possible. I can understand metrosimsual, but it is beyond my comprehension why a lot of girls seem to think that male sims need to look like women.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: redisenchanted on 2008 August 07, 12:05:24
OK all, stop bitching about free creators. If they want to make girly guys, that's their choice. Go to insim and check out the Huge Body builder or Bear body shape if you want some more manly types.  ::)

I'd put up some pwn pics, but there aren't any pay buff dudes that I know about.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: uknortherner on 2008 August 07, 12:25:52
I tried so hard not to contribute to the OT here but... My biggest problem is that they're not sims anymore. That's the trend that I hate the most right now in the community. People photoshop the hell out of their sims, and at that point, they aren't sims anymore.
I also hate the rather HUGE trend that male sims must look as femenine as possible. I can understand metrosimsual, but it is beyond my comprehension why a lot of girls seem to think that male sims need to like women.

I agree with this 100%. I've seen pictures on some sites where female sims heads have been stuck on male bodies.

For the love of (insert favourite deity here if you believe in one), we blokes are not women with dicks instead of breasts. We're not some weird, twisted extension of a female's personality. I get the impression that some of these creators who do this sort of thing have never actually met a bloke.

There is a current trend of having deliberately feminine clothing for males (especially when there's already a shortage of proper men's clothing to begin with), and I don't include anime, emo or goth stuff here - male anime characters, emos and goths still look like males even with all the makeup and clothes, I mean the stuff I've started to see that are quite clearly female clothes being put on so-called "effeminate" men.



Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: nihil on 2008 August 07, 13:42:42
I have to add my two cents on Photoshopping:

I'm very adept at Photoshop - I've actually sold some images I created pixel by pixel.

HOWEVER - it pisses me off when I see contest entries that are obviously photoshopped and no one calls the submitter on it.  I recently entered a house contest.  I did very well in the voting, but the winner had photoshopped their pics so heavily that all you noticed were the effects, and not the content.  I never use photoshop in contest pics because it feels too much like cheating. 

I suppose, however, that some people feel the need to mask their design inadequacies with a gaudy border and multiple lightbeams.

Ah well - rant off.   :)




Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 August 07, 15:13:02
I hate photoshopping too - if I detect it in a contest, I vote for the least photoshopped entry, and did so recently. If I detect photoshopped content, I just don't download it. I wonder that people have the time and energy - after I'm finished in game I just want to crop those suckers and get them done - I don't want to spend commensurate time on photoshopping the second time (first time being the time I photoshopped the clothing to make it).

As to feminine male sims. I believe....tough.  :D I create the sims I like, and I let you download them if you like them too.  It's not as if you can't use Bodyshop yourself and make your own faces.  As to hair and clothing, there is oodles of male hair and clothing - sure - not as much as females, but still loads. It's not as if there's a total of 3 tops and 3 jeans they can wear - there's far more than that.

As for meeting and not meeting blokes, well, attraction is individual. I make sims I find attractive - and I don't like giant butch hairy men. I'm not married to a giant butch hairy man. I'm married to a guy with medium length hair that used to be long, who wears jeans and a lot of the "emo" t-shirts I see around, and who has waaaaaay better legs than me.  I could easily dress him with EAxis clothing or custom clothing. So it's not that I like sims that are all girls, I just happen to find my husband attractive (hence the marrying) and because that type and face appeals to me, that's what I find I want to make.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: ValancySterling on 2008 August 07, 15:15:24
To get back to the topic at hand.  I love Phoenix Phaerie's Tuscan Kitchen at MTS2:
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f41/serenamoonsilver/MTS2_311715_phoenix_phaerie_tuscanm.jpg)
I was curious to see if TSR had anything even remotely close.  The best I could find was this kitchen by Shakeshaft:
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f41/serenamoonsilver/449309.jpg)

There's S&K's New England kitchen:
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f41/serenamoonsilver/711337.jpg)
But with a quick look, I found Darqstar and Paleoanth's kitchen at MTS2:
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f41/serenamoonsilver/MTS2_515499_Darqstar_and_Paleoanth_.jpg)

And I love to do castle's.   And I almost always use Lethe_s's castle kitchen:
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f41/serenamoonsilver/MTS2_81259_Lethe_s_screenykitchen.jpg)
Which is much better than this one by Simaddict99:
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f41/serenamoonsilver/210683.jpg)

I like to do fantasy stuff too.  Compare Lethe_s's Wizard Study (with new meshes) from MTS2:
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f41/serenamoonsilver/MTS2_88412_Lethe_s_wizardscreeny.jpg)
With Arenaria's Wizard's Lair which is nothing but recolors of Maxis meshes:
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f41/serenamoonsilver/144332.jpg)

Finally, there's Cyclonesue's Victorian Bath:
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f41/serenamoonsilver/647636.jpg)
Compared to Phoenix Phaerie's Manor House Bath:
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f41/serenamoonsilver/MTS2_phoenix_phaerie_775688_mts2_ti.jpg)

Now I'll admit, all of those paysite sets aren't bad.  But when you can get the same/better for free, why would you bother?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: redisenchanted on 2008 August 07, 16:21:06
If I'm not mistaken, Snakeshaft has Numenor's free pot bellied stove featured in that kitchen set. Unless of course in her crappy pay way, she made another less awesome version.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Piratey on 2008 August 07, 16:54:24
As to feminine male sims. I believe....tough.  :D I create the sims I like, and I let you download them if you like them too.  It's not as if you can't use Bodyshop yourself and make your own faces.  As to hair and clothing, there is oodles of male hair and clothing - sure - not as much as females, but still loads. It's not as if there's a total of 3 tops and 3 jeans they can wear - there's far more than that.
Actually I think your sims are quite nice. They're subtle and realistic. The ones I don't like are the ones that are so femenine, you can't actually distinguish them from female sims, and have loads of makeup and tacky fake hair so shiny you need to wear sunglasses to look at it.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 August 07, 17:14:53
Please, plz, leave download links.  I love that Phoenix Phaerie Manor Bath House.  ;D

If I'm not mistaken, Snakeshaft has Numenor's free pot bellied stove featured in that kitchen set. Unless of course in her crappy pay way, she made another less awesome version.

Looks like it to me too. I notice a lot of good free content propping up pay.

Actually I think your sims are quite nice. They're subtle and realistic. The ones I don't like are the ones that are so femenine, you can't actually distinguish them from female sims, and have loads of makeup and tacky fake hair so shiny you need to wear sunglasses to look at it.

Come now, they're hardly manly. Severe lack of chestal hair, frou frou hairstyles, fairly soft faces with some hard angles (like our children :D ). If you saw them on the street even without their custom skintones you'd wonder if they were chicks or androgynous or something.  Coolington also wears makeup, has better nails than me, and better hair than me. If I didn't suck complete arse at doing makeup, they'd be wearing it. :P


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Piratey on 2008 August 07, 18:06:37
Come now, they're hardly manly. Severe lack of chestal hair, frou frou hairstyles, fairly soft faces with some hard angles (like our children :D ). If you saw them on the street even without their custom skintones you'd wonder if they were chicks or androgynous or something.  Coolington also wears makeup, has better nails than me, and better hair than me. If I didn't suck complete arse at doing makeup, they'd be wearing it. :P
Yeah, I would probably not like them if they had makeup. But there are people that do look like that (femenine features and manscaping and all). But it looks more emo-ey than woman-ey. It's stuff with loads of makeup, like this (http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/624/624985.jpg), this (http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/380/380933.jpg) and especially this (http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/324/324812.jpg) that I really don't like. It looks so odd and weird and quite frankly the last one looks like a drag queen.

Anyway, a little more on topic. The bath set is amazing.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: ValkyrieProfile on 2008 August 07, 18:17:41
Please, plz, leave download links.  I love that Phoenix Phaerie Manor Bath House.  ;D

There (http://sumomo.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=290384) you go.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Miami on 2008 August 07, 18:37:03
I also don't get this men dressing like women thing. Is that emo? Anyways, what exactly is emo?  First there was this gothic-hype and now emo? ??? can somebody tell me what it is because to me emo is the same like gothic, but just not so much ... ya know, gothic.   :-\   :D

Like you put on your entire gothic outfit PLUS some extra nice hello kitty necklace because that's so cute ...  :P EWW. I totally missed out on that trend.


Oh my god, I'm getting old ... at the age of 23  :(  ::)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: ChaosInAMinor on 2008 August 07, 19:32:05
Miami, I know how you feel. Out here kids are really scenester. That's a trend that baffles me. It's the kind where these boys squeeze into these tiny little pants that look like they're painted on after not showering for a week, throw on an ironic t-shirt, and turn on their I-pod with their ironic music. Kids these days...(I'm only turning 20 in a few weeks. I feel so old.)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Silver Arrows on 2008 August 07, 19:39:09
I haven't a clue what emo is supposed to be either. They cry a lot, I think.

Urban Dictionary is my best friend ->http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=emo

(You know how not-with-it I am because I'm always having to look things up on there. I had to even look up what 'beaver' meant because I didn't understand why Beaver-Hunter was considered smutty.)

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I also hate the rather HUGE trend that male sims must look as femenine as possible
[sarcasm]RAON FTW (http://www.raonsims.com/item/list.php?cat1=1&cat2=3)!!! [/sarcasm]


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 August 07, 20:05:28
Yeah, I would probably not like them if they had makeup. But there are people that do look like that (femenine features and manscaping and all). But it looks more emo-ey than woman-ey. It's stuff with loads of makeup, like this x3 that I really don't like. It looks so odd and weird and quite frankly the last one looks like a drag queen.

Those three examples are more manly than my sims. :P

There (http://sumomo.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=290384) you go.

Aww, you rock.  ;D

I also don't get this men dressing like women thing. Is that emo?

Nah - it's been around for ages.  I'm sure if you don't know what emo is you'd remember the 80s mode of dress? Or at the very least, the 1700's mode of dress, where men wore frockcoats, makeup, high heels and wigs?  :D It's really no different now.

Anyways, what exactly is emo? 

This is emo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFqpEBjOQbA)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Astonished lemons on 2008 August 07, 20:21:17
Emo is Goth's wimpy, overly-emotional little brother wanting to play with the big kids but instead gets beaten up.

Scene is Emo but with more colors.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Ry on 2008 August 07, 20:22:29
Emo is Goth's wimpy, overly-emotional little brother wanting to play with the big kids but instead gets beaten up.

Scene is Emo but with more colors.


 :D
Great explanation. Lulzy as hell.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: arrgh on 2008 August 07, 20:25:52
My understanding is emo kids cut themselves, goth kids want to cut others  ;)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: ValancySterling on 2008 August 07, 20:26:51
Now, now.  Don't be too hard on the emo kids.  They are just kids after all--one day they'll grow up and look back and go "God, I was an idiot when I was teenager".

Actually, there is a clique of emo kids at one of the schools I work at here are absolutely adorable.  They're nice, well behaved and try to limit their angst/melodrama to their artistic endevors (They are all in art, drama, or music classes).  They're probably among the more mature students in the school and are always good for conversation if they finish they're work early.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: pickles on 2008 August 07, 20:35:02
That TSR Hercule Poirot makes me so sad.  :'(



Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 August 07, 20:48:32
Overly feminine sims? Yeah I hate that to. But I also hate the ones with the body builder bodyshape. I just want my man sims to be normal :( That's probably why the few good looking man sims I have in my game is such a whore! (I've had to turn free will off because of him.)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Panthpirate on 2008 August 07, 22:15:33
How coincidental, I was just intrigued today by how many goths and emos there are in my History class. Who knew emos were into the Civil War?  :P


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Pillbug on 2008 August 07, 23:40:09
Marilu over at TSR released this monstrosity today:
(http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/3009/760770ll7.th.jpg) (http://img513.imageshack.us/my.php?image=760770ll7.jpg)

Compare that to Buggybooz superior free kitchen at MTS2:
(http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/9702/mts2buggybooz732918mainpu9.th.jpg) (http://img513.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mts2buggybooz732918mainpu9.jpg)

Want it in blue?  No problem, thanks to these free recolors in a variety of shades of blue from All4Sims, all much hideous than Marilu's:
(http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/8456/12237screen2cb3040502dbpk7.th.jpg) (http://img516.imageshack.us/my.php?image=12237screen2cb3040502dbpk7.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: liegenschonheit on 2008 August 08, 02:40:44
I'm still a goth kid. and I'm 26. We have a way better style than emo, I think. And better music too. I get annoyed that there are people that don't know the difference, but then, I suppose to the mainstream we all look pretty much alike.

And I don't particularly want to cut other people. Unless they really, really deserve it. But still, that isn't really part of our "thing".


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Ulayli on 2008 August 08, 02:51:45
calalily thanks for posting that link.I just sat for almost 2 hours watching The Chasers.Never seen it before and it so funny. :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: kenmtl on 2008 August 08, 03:48:54
Easy point of reference.

Goth-Bauhaus-Peter Murphy-Godly
Emo-My Chemical Romance-Gerard Way-Poseur

Any other questions just ask. kthxbye


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Dr House on 2008 August 08, 05:02:22
I screamed when i saw the Marilu set, it's HORRID! >:( Strangely enough that girl lives in the past as her sets still look like they were made a couple of years ago. Ugly!

You must have made a typo in your post Pillbug, All4Sims's recolors cannot beat Marilu's horror. Plus All4sims is a free forum (unless i missed something when i downloaded a lot of recolors there). I hope you meant to write "all LESS hideous than Marilu's".

No free site bashing, it makes the kitteh cry.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Yaardarm Monkey II on 2008 August 08, 05:11:29
and all those goth kids parents listened to THIS 20 years ago... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGZenzfg3A0)

and of course, Bauhaus has already been mentioned...the goth kids were conceived to THIS song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zq7xyjU-jsU)

 :D     ;D     :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: pixelated on 2008 August 08, 07:58:09
You must have made a typo in your post Pillbug, All4Sims's recolors cannot beat Marilu's horror. Plus All4sims is a free forum (unless i missed something when i downloaded a lot of recolors there). I hope you meant to write "all LESS hideous than Marilu's".

No free site bashing, it makes the kitteh cry.
Pretty sure you misunderstood him/her/it.

Want it in blue?  No problem, thanks to these free recolors in a variety of shades of blue from All4Sims, all much hideous than Marilu's:
It's missing a "less", but it's clearly meant to say "all much less hideous than Marilu's".


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Azaya on 2008 August 08, 08:11:58
and of course, Bauhaus has already been mentioned...the goth kids were conceived to THIS song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zq7xyjU-jsU)

 :D     ;D     :D

Personally I can't imagine my parents either watching The Hunger or owning a Bauhaus record, so I guess I'm an anomaly ;)

Anyways:

(http://i37.tinypic.com/24zvpko.jpg)
Rather bland looking garden by Shakeshaft @ TSR...

(http://i37.tinypic.com/140kuj5.jpg)
...versus this lush, gorgeous, and free set by Macarossi @ MTS2.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Anouk on 2008 August 08, 09:24:09
That's a pretty severe pwnage.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Lord Darcy on 2008 August 08, 12:57:58
I really love Macarossi's plants, they're so beautiful. I use them almost in every lot. :)


I present you this pile of manure from Simslice.

Simslice's Community Beds (http://www.simslice.com/thesims2/ts2objects-pg18.htm) (I boldened 's' intentionally)

(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff243/creamgray/The%20Sims%202/simslice-ts2-objects-seating-commun.gif)

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Up to forty-four (44) visitor-enabled beds. Use at home for yourself or your guests to sleep in... or use it to spend the night on Community Lots or other away-from-home locations. The "Sleep" option was adjusted so that it can be used anytime, not just when Energy levels are lower. Sims can also sleep in the buff anytime they want. Also just for fun, any Sim will be able to "Tuck In" any other Sim regardless of age. Updated April 2006 to be completely forward and backward compatible for those that had issues after installing OFB, and 33 additional color options added.

ONE cloned hacked bed that looks identical to Maxis Colonial bed, which cannot even use custom beddings (not to mention other Maxis beddings added by later EPs!) or recolors of original bedframe? What happened to good old repository technique? "A total of 44 different beds" my arse.


Compared to this excellent global mod by our ModFather himself:

Sleep on Community/OFB/Vacation lots - Global Hack (http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=241797)

(http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/3029/screenshotwm4.th.jpg) (http://img519.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotwm4.jpg)

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  • It's fully compatible with any game configuration, from base-game up to Bon Voyage (tested in vacation lots, too); the hack will recognize your game version and will act accordingly.
  • Full support for Sleep and Nap on any (Maxis or custom) bed, sofa, loveseat, recliners/long chair and coffin; none of the mentioned hack would allow napping on long chairs or coffins (one enables the sofas, though).
  • Full support for Sims, Servos, Vampires and Pets.

Although Numenor's mod doesn't have hacked functions of Simslice bed (e.g. sleeping even when energy bar is full), I'd choose Numenor's mod over Simslice crap any day.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Azaya on 2008 August 08, 13:05:30
Especially since one of them tends to produce crap that makes people's games explode, and it certainly isn't Numenor.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Dr House on 2008 August 08, 13:34:36
It's missing a "less", but it's clearly meant to say "all much less hideous than Marilu's".
Hey, that's what i thought but i wasn't sure of it.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: brainiac on 2008 August 08, 13:54:45
I'm sorry, I'm actually supposed to pay for that? With the plastic purple poles of doom and the shredded papers in place of flowers? No thanks!

I have an comparison!

This vomit-inducing kitchen decoration set by Sims2Sisters, previously posted by me in the Ugliest Paysite Items (v2) thread:
(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/tmp/751/751784.jpg)
vs. this much better, wonderful free alternative by Simply Styling:
(http://i36.tinypic.com/161jgia.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Zillah on 2008 August 08, 16:16:11
I don't think I could create a lot without Macrossi's awesomeness. My downloads folder groans under the weight of her stuff.

BTW - hairy men - not looking for Grizzly Adams here, but if I wanted a twelve year old boy, I'd get one. I always thought back hair was gross until I recently started dating a very fuzzy guy. Purrrrrrrrr...I will never go back. One word, ladies (and otherwise inclined). Traction.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Azaya on 2008 August 08, 16:35:47
Shakeshaft vs. Macarossi again. I think the pictures speak eloquently enough:

(http://i36.tinypic.com/e9y9hv.jpg)

vs.

(http://i35.tinypic.com/vd0sbc.jpg)

No contest there.

(For the record, brainiac, I think that's Simply-Styling you're thinking of, not Ogularama :P)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: brainiac on 2008 August 08, 17:24:14
Yes, I just realized that. I was surfing Ogularama's site when I posted that, so I got the names mixed up :P


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Piratey on 2008 August 08, 17:55:44
Macarossi FTW

Her desert plants are fantastic. EDIT: Azaya made a great point.

Stunningly high quality plants
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d113/thecallumus/DesertGarden4.jpg)

Vs

Cardboard crap by Wood for Sims
(http://www.woodforsims.de/assets/images/wfs2os2_scr03_600-400x299.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Azaya on 2008 August 08, 18:12:19
That's another good one, her desert plants against Wood for Sims's saloon outdoor set.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dietofworms on 2008 August 08, 18:45:18
The WFS pic is so amazingly bad it got me giggling. ;)

No one's mentioned OM's work at Avalon.  There's nothing pay to compare it to because it's  unique and so well done that it's in a class by itself.  Likewise Moune's Cambodian stuff. 

(I guess you could indirectly compare their work to Marilu's pseudo-Asian abominations, but I don't have the stomach to dig up the pics.)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Pillbug on 2008 August 08, 19:39:30
You must have made a typo in your post Pillbug, All4Sims's recolors cannot beat Marilu's horror. Plus All4sims is a free forum (unless i missed something when i downloaded a lot of recolors there). I hope you meant to write "all LESS hideous than Marilu's".

Oops!   Sorry about that, I did mean less, not more. 

Note to self:  proof-read posts before submitting


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Azaya on 2008 August 08, 20:11:19
Steaming pile of 'goth' crap by Grizzelda:
(http://i36.tinypic.com/207von9.jpg)

Beautiful dress by Gelydh (so happy she went free):
(http://i38.tinypic.com/2lbf8np.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 August 08, 21:07:40
Oh I am so glad to see Macarossi's flowers in here - there really are none better!
My sims wear that Gelydh dress probably more than they should. And Grizzelda sucks... badly.

And now for Liana sewage:
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f114/dusdeedawn/LianaSims2_Fashion_Big_1213.jpg)
Vs.
All About Style using the same mesh but doing it so much better.
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f114/dusdeedawn/BlackAASDress.jpg)

(yes, pictures are small - glasses, people!)  :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 August 08, 21:38:52
Liana photoskins to much. Some of them are cute, when they aren't covered in wrinkles and not centered on the body.... which is a rarity with her :P

All about Style has totally killed my clothing downloads folder! I love all the styles especially their Victorian night gowns


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: deelink on 2008 August 09, 00:06:40
Liana also gives them waspish waists, and makes Sim girls look emaciated. *shrugs* Not a look I go for personally. Especially with my Sims :P


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Theria on 2008 August 09, 07:10:09
The "Pshaw! Who needs a ribcage!" look?

Um, I do. Thanks.

...and to think, once upon a time, when I was young and impressionable, Liana was the ONLY clothing in my downloads folder. Heh. Live and learn.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Azaya on 2008 August 09, 10:44:44
Free and animated hair by xizarx at GoS (though this is dachs's recolor, because the original pictures are out of bandwidth  :()

(http://i33.tinypic.com/2aev5i.jpg)

versus this Rose hair that doesn't know what the hell it's doing.

(http://i35.tinypic.com/104pw01.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 August 09, 10:58:34
Ooh thanks for that Azaya. And it's not a pay hair edit!!! So I downloaded. :P


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 August 09, 16:54:27
Here's a couple more craptastic chaz!

1.
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j61/miss_sabrina/sims2/706929.jpg)

vs. http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=258261

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j61/miss_sabrina/sims2/MTS2_BlueSky_663028_AvrilmodLavigne.jpg)

2.
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j61/miss_sabrina/sims2/751765.jpg)

vs. http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=264325

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j61/miss_sabrina/sims2/836k6tj.jpg)

3.
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j61/miss_sabrina/sims2/689355.jpg)

vs. http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=242696

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j61/miss_sabrina/sims2/MTS2_587281_Jessica_2020_KateB4.jpg)

and

http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=235341

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j61/miss_sabrina/sims2/MTS2_547501_enriquemt0_katebeck.jpg)

4.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j61/miss_sabrina/sims2/463901.jpg)

vs. http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=207339

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j61/miss_sabrina/sims2/faces.jpg)

I think you might get the point that Chaz's sims suck :)




Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: CaptainChris on 2008 August 09, 18:15:25
Ack, I must remember not to click on this thread when I'm getting ready for bed. Feckin' Chaz.
Azaya That hair is perrtiful, alas not the style I would use often, but it looks very well made. The Rose hair on the other hand wouldn't have been so bad if she just kept the bob thing, but I guess she's already selling more than a few of those   ::)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Azaya on 2008 August 09, 18:29:08
The Rose hair wouldn't be terrible if she'd picked one direction and gone with it-- pigtails, bob, or straight. But since it's Rose she had to fail at all three and mash them together and make a frankenhair.

Missbonbon, I think you've displayed pretty well why Chaz is synonymous with 'dear God where's my eyebleach'.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Panthpirate on 2008 August 09, 19:11:36
the only thing I've really liked from Jirka was her Liv Tyler sim (although I had to alter the man jaw in game and I have her better hair)

But Chaz really is terrible, i noticed this was SUPPOSED to be Keira Knightley.

<*barfs*>


Ewww, it's like Chaz deliberately wanted people to see how disgustingly textured that hair is. Now I have a nauseous stomach.  :-\


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Ebianarr on 2008 August 09, 22:23:28
Is it just me, or do the faces on all of Chaz's sims look greasy?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: redisenchanted on 2008 August 09, 23:17:30
New crappy pay hair from Peggy:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/jmtmom/peggypay.jpg)

VS awesome free hair by Sizz at MTS2:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/jmtmom/MTS2_sizz_700666_aMhair6001.jpg)


Crappy pay outfits by Sim Guys:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/jmtmom/simguyspay.jpg)

Vs awesome free outfits by Aikea Guinea at Club Crimsyn:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/jmtmom/thumb_amfb_sneakers_keys.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/jmtmom/thumb_amfb_sneakers_pez.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/jmtmom/thumb_amfb_sneakers_redplaid.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Topaz on 2008 August 09, 23:56:37
I already told Dave a few times how ILLEGAL and evil it is to be a paysite, he sad he knew where i was coming from. If he did he would make them free :-\


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: coliss on 2008 August 10, 01:08:36
I already told Dave a few times how ILLEGAL and evil it is to be a paysite, he sad he knew where i was coming from. If he did he would make them free :-\

Is Dave the creator of Sim Guys? I hate it when people make flash based websites, unless it's appropriate for the content and professional looking.

Peggy's new hairs all seem to float on Sims' head.

Too much fug from Chaz in this thread that should be burned. D: I cannot believe that he didn't edit Keira's hair on the picture (although on second thought, I actually believe it). I still cannot understand why people want his stuff.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Lilyroseisapirate on 2008 August 10, 01:46:46
if you ever take all the makeup off a chaz sim and change the skintone you STILL have an ugly sim...that looks absolutely nothing like the sim did originally. sim guys pay? HAHAHHAHAHAHAHA, what a fucking joke!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: kenmtl on 2008 August 10, 02:03:45
Crappy pay outfits by Sim Guys:
Vs awesome free outfits by Aikea Guinea at Club Crimsyn:

You know I actually don't hate the jeans. But I ain't payin for em, that's fer sure.

And of course my hood would be a nudist colony if it weren't AG&G. I only wish they would make MOAR stuff MOAR quickly. I don't know what they're doing over there, having a life or something probably. Gawd!  Come on ladies, produce produce produce!!! I'll send you food so you don't even have to leave your homes. What do you like?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: fway on 2008 August 10, 03:18:11
if you ever take all the makeup off a chaz sim and change the skintone you STILL have an ugly sim...that looks absolutely nothing like the sim did originally. sim guys pay? HAHAHHAHAHAHAHA, what a fucking joke!

Now that I actually downloaded several of his sims from the booty and removed the skintones and whatnot, I found out that he uses the same facial structure for EACH one... you'll have to go diggin for the pictures I posted that compared all of them together.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Azaya on 2008 August 10, 03:19:07
Does he really? What a shock.  ::)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Lilyroseisapirate on 2008 August 10, 03:44:17
i downloaded one as a test to see what it really looked like....CRAP lol, i'll dig those pics up, i would like to see that!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Hecubus on 2008 August 10, 03:46:16
Not sure how I missed this thread! Gah, I need to pay better attention.

Thanks, re: Fallingwater.

Hotlinking is discussed in the FAQ.

Sims2Play has the sharpest color choices....I totally love her work.

When DON'T Nouk and Helga pwn Rose, Raon, and Peggy?

Marilu is by far the least talented of the Teutonic Twats. Makes me wonder if Birgit, Teko, Sasilia, and Steffor let her tag along like an annoying younger sister. S2P and Simply Styling PWN the Twats every day of the week and twice on Sundays.

I don't know what The Hunger is, and I'm pretty sure that it's okay if I never know.

Chaz and Jirka... um... yeah. You know how I feel about them.

I don't have pics at the moment, but I'll pit Lethe's pagan wares against the shit that Sims Connection sells.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Azaya on 2008 August 10, 04:17:22
I don't know what The Hunger is, and I'm pretty sure that it's okay if I never know.

A not-so-good movie of a pretty good book, but I only mentioned it because it has 'Bela Lugosi's Dead' at the beginning.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Panthpirate on 2008 August 10, 04:29:19
*runs to Simguys out of curiousity of the horrendous fug*

Oh, they have a TSR link at the bottom of their main page. Already fugly shit   >:(
A "premium" button. *rage mode* ROAAAARRR!!!!  >:(  :P

I hate to admit but I actually downloaded a couple of things.  :-\  Free stuff of course.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: aikea_guinea on 2008 August 10, 05:05:41
And of course my hood would be a nudist colony if it weren't AG&G. I only wish they would make MOAR stuff MOAR quickly. I don't know what they're doing over there, having a life or something probably. Gawd!  Come on ladies, produce produce produce!!! I'll send you food so you don't even have to leave your homes. What do you like?

hahahahahaha!!! 

We're always making new stuff, it's just that right now my focus has shifted back toward my writing.  I do have some works in progress (http://www.digitalperversion.net/gardenofshadows/index.php?topic=66.msg148776#msg148776), plus about eleventy billion more ideas after that.  In the mean time, Gelydh is knocking shit over (http://www.digitalperversion.net/gardenofshadows/index.php?topic=66.msg148387#msg148387).

But yes.... Many many thanks for the compliments.  While we do this for the utter joy it brings us, knowing that that other people use and enjoy our creations and insanity makes it all the better.   ;D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: PorkchopzNgravy on 2008 August 10, 14:27:04
 :oWow, I can't believe Simguys has a donation set. I could've sworn they had a preminum tab but when you clicked on it, it was a joke, like MATY. Wow, just wow .


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Dr House on 2008 August 10, 14:47:06
aikea, these teasers are so tempting. You both ROCK! Can't wait for both your work to come out :-*


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Millie on 2008 August 10, 16:10:33
It haz come to my attention that some pirates are using photobucket for pay sites pictures. Hotlinking to paysites = moar butthurt to paysites. Embrace ze naughtiness  ;D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: kenmtl on 2008 August 10, 17:22:18
Compared to Phoenix Phaerie's Manor House Bath:
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f41/serenamoonsilver/MTS2_phoenix_phaerie_775688_mts2_ti.jpg

I luv her stuff man, but damn some of it is high poly. The metro wall series is absolutely in my game. It's funny that she's from Texas because the walls are very Parisian. Anyway.....

 
hahahahahaha!!! 
We're always making new stuff, it's just that right now my focus has shifted back toward my writing.  I do have some works in progress (http://www.digitalperversion.net/gardenofshadows/index.php?topic=66.msg148776#msg148776), plus about eleventy billion more ideas after that.  In the mean time, Gelydh is knocking shit over (http://www.digitalperversion.net/gardenofshadows/index.php?topic=66.msg148387#msg148387).
But yes.... Many many thanks for the compliments.  While we do this for the utter joy it brings us, knowing that that other people use and enjoy our creations and insanity makes it all the better.   ;D

Aikea you and Gelydh do whatever you want, I'm just teasing, lol. I totally totally think the knocked over stuff is great. It's gonna look really cool in game when I can get it.

And seeing as you asked, I think that top and shorts would look really cool with the chucks and some high white skate socks. You'd get this kinda altsk8goth look happening. I know it's maybe not really your style but it would rock anyway. Just sayin.




Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: fway on 2008 August 10, 17:32:21
Aikea, do the knocked down objects use repository? *Crosses fingers* I have some destroyed looking justadoor recolors I downloaded that'd go nice with your set.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 August 10, 17:47:57
 :-[ I am probably the one that uses photobucket... but gah I tried and I can't hotlink tsr! Can I have the secrets to butthurt?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Millie on 2008 August 10, 18:31:28
Okay. In ze name of moar butthurt, I will teach you  ;D

Go to TSR, find the item you want to hotlink to. Click up the image. Copy the link at the top of the image page, and insert it in IMG tags. If you don't know how to do this, it's the second line down of all those little boxes above (when you hit reply), and second one from the left. It looks like a little picture. Insert the link in between these two img tags, and what you have is this

Voila, green legs of doom.

(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/tmp/754/754188.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 August 10, 18:32:24
:-[ I am probably the one that uses photobucket... but gah I tried and I can't hotlink tsr! Can I have the secrets to butthurt?

Okay, if you wish to hotlink **to a paysite only**, this is how. See at the top of the forum, the butthurt baby picture.

Right click it and select Properties in IE or Firefox, and it will have "location"(Firefox) or "address" (IE). Copy that line, which in this case is http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/butthurt.jpg, and then surround it with IMG tags. And that's how you hotlink.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Markus on 2008 August 10, 18:33:50
I have that Aikea outfit with the Pez tee in game right now and I love it. :)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: redisenchanted on 2008 August 10, 18:58:21
:-[ I am probably the one that uses photobucket... but gah I tried and I can't hotlink tsr! Can I have the secrets to butthurt?

I don't really know how to hotlink either.  :-[  The latest pics I got were from an update site anyway, not a paysite so I don't think it would be appropriate.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Shark*Tooth*Hester on 2008 August 10, 21:17:12
Is it just me, or do the faces on all of Chaz's sims look greasy?

Yes, aparently part of his special "charm" is that he rolls his sims in Crisco before uploading them.

I highly suspect people who love Chaz are playing with very old computers and/or intergrated graphics cards on lower end machines. Let me tell you, there are a LOT of "ew" and "meh" things that look fantastic played in a game with the lowest settings on a 12 inch tube monitor.  :-\


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Panthpirate on 2008 August 10, 22:30:36
Voila, green legs of doom.

<puke green fug>

You probably didn't intend to post that as an example of bad pay content, but it was so fugly it needed recognition  ;)  :P


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 August 10, 22:36:56
Hmm I will have to try this new way of butthurting once I get the chance :)

As for crappy textures and chaz... it's true! One of his Hayden Pantierre sims's came with really pretty hair

(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/592/592438.jpg)

this hair! *yay I hotlinked!* And when my computer with still frankenstiened together, the hair looked decent. Rather fake, but I could deal with. Well now with my newer graphics card, I have been debating on deleting it just because now I can see parts where the mesh goes different ways, and how the texture doesn't line all the way up with the mesh.



Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: fway on 2008 August 10, 22:46:36
... and ... the free site comparison?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 August 10, 22:54:07
? I wasn't comparing, I was responding to Shark*Tooth* and what he said about chaz's stuff looks better when your graphics card is from the stone age  ??? :-[


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: fway on 2008 August 11, 00:16:31
? I wasn't comparing, I was responding to Shark*Tooth* and what he said about chaz's stuff looks better when your graphics card is from the stone age  ??? :-[

Well then sorry for the misunderstanding. I got confused, and quote tags help a bunch... :p


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 August 11, 01:22:36
hehe, yeah I have figured out how to quote, but I sometimes forget it *feels like a noob*  ;D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: kenmtl on 2008 August 11, 01:27:03
? I wasn't comparing, I was responding to Shark*Tooth* and what he said about chaz's stuff looks better when your graphics card is from the stone age ??? :-[

or broken

That hair is almost comical. Zero is good about it. And of course then there is the couture outfit. You can tell by the attention to detail. That blurry frayed not quite fitting on the mesh look is really hot right now.



Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Lilyroseisapirate on 2008 August 11, 03:17:27
i keep refreshing this page continually just because....butthurt. (does it really cause butthurt they notice?)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Astonished lemons on 2008 August 11, 04:56:32
Ooh! Were allowed to hotlink to paysites now? Goodie!

This caravan-roof end by shakeshaft at TSR, (Seriously, thats some thinly veiled sexual inuenndo in that name right there)
(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/761/761472.jpg)

Vs:

These georgeous ones by Kate at Parsimonious with several recolors to go with the rest of the set.
(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g179/zoeycat123/Other%20sims%20stuff/k8-Wandering-1x3_Roof_Section.jpg)

(In-game pic)
(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g179/zoeycat123/Other%20sims%20stuff/k8-Wandering.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: gelydh on 2008 August 11, 05:56:33
Aikea, do the knocked down objects use repository? *Crosses fingers* I have some destroyed looking justadoor recolors I downloaded that'd go nice with your set.

Hell yes! We're addicted to the repository technique.  ;D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Azaya on 2008 August 11, 06:16:10
I'm curious about something relating to this topic. Are 'free' things at TSR still fair game, or do they count as free and therefore off-limits?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Millie on 2008 August 11, 06:36:28
As far as I'm aware, it is still on a payshite, um, paysite, so it's fair game. If not, then I have been naughty  :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Millie on 2008 August 11, 06:41:55

 *yay I hotlinked!*


Have some rum in celebration of moar butthurt caused. Every little helps  ;D

Quote from: panthpirate
You probably didn't intend to post that as an example of bad pay content, but it was so fugly it needed recognition

It was the first thing I found. Seriously. Went into clothing, first page, there it was. It's not even a challenge on that site  :D


edited to add - bollocks. I did that double post thing. Macro me now. It's early here, m'kay?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 August 11, 06:51:31
While technically, all free content on a paysite is allowable, there's really no point to use it as comparison.  We can't say that people shouldn't waste their money if either set they choose from is free.  ;) And of course, the conundrum that you run across is that some freesites advertise on TSR (just as they do on MTS2) and you'll inevitably end up comparing freesite to freesite.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Millie on 2008 August 11, 06:58:59
I disagree Cala (jeez, I'm in a feisty mood today  :D)

I used to subscribe to TSR, for the reason that some of the nicer stuff is free, yes, but a lot of the meshes, remain pay. So it's useless unless you can download the mesh too.

Plus, they have (or had) a nasty habit of releasing one or two items from a set as free, and making the rest of the set pay. Most irritating.

I think this is the only reason they offer free stuff anyway - tis not for the good of the community. It's to draw people in, because lets face it, how many people would visit there if it was purely subscriptions only? They get new customers for the reasons I just mentioned.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 August 11, 07:04:15
I used to subscribe to TSR, for the reason that some of the nicer stuff is free, yes, but a lot of the meshes, remain pay. So it's useless unless you can download the mesh too.
Plus, they have (or had) a nasty habit of releasing one or two items from a set as free, and making the rest of the set pay. Most irritating.

So that makes it pay. Only a retard of the highest order would pay for a sub and not get any pay content. I mean, it's relatively easy to pwn content with the dregs of TSR free crap.  That doesn't prove a damn thing.

I think this is the only reason they offer free stuff anyway - tis not for the good of the community. It's to draw people in, because lets face it, how many people would visit there if it was purely subscriptions only? They get new customers for the reasons I just mentioned.

Jeez. I never would have figured this out if you hadn't said anything.  ::)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Millie on 2008 August 11, 07:15:06
LOL Cala. I was kind of thinking out loud with the last bit. I don't imagine I was telling you anything you didn't already know.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: cookiepirate on 2008 August 12, 19:56:37
From TSR:
(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/762/762315.jpg)

From Enayla at InSims:
(http://usera.imagecave.com/thecookiejar/Stuff/lacemidnight.jpg) (http://usera.imagecave.com/thecookiejar/Stuff/lacemoonlight.jpg)
(http://usera.imagecave.com/thecookiejar/Stuff/lacesunset.jpg)

No contest!!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Millie on 2008 August 12, 20:09:01
They are some gorgeous dresses  :o


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: LadyDea on 2008 August 12, 20:59:06
Indeed they are! *boogies over to Insim for further Downloads folder bloatage*


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2008 August 12, 21:00:54
*comes back from a detour to Insim* Oh dear, poor Enayla - losing all her creations like that.....but what lovely things she's put up - not just dresses, but new skins!

*bouncies*


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 August 12, 22:18:26
Geez, I went over there yesterday and snagged her new skins and my computer tried to kill me shortly thereafter.  :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: falln_angel on 2008 August 12, 22:46:40
And when my computer with still frankenstiened together, the hair looked decent. Rather fake, but I could deal with. Well now with my newer graphics card, I have been debating on deleting it just because now I can see parts where the mesh goes different ways, and how the texture doesn't line all the way up with the mesh.

Oh, hon, delete the damn thing! Honestly, there are way better hairs out there. I just did a little bit of searching and came up with these - I'm sure you could find more if you dug around a bit.

For the sake of a side-by-side (or top-to-bottom?), here's Chaz's mess.

(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/592/592438.jpg)

Here's a similar one by Helga. (I'm in love with this hair by the way.)

(http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/218/020bigms3.jpg) (http://www.helgasims.com/hair7.htm)
(click images for download page)

One from enriquemt0 at MTS2
(http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/9964/mts2enriquemt0681515dartr9.jpg) (http://hideki.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=263417)

And a couple of pay-mesh retextures which I'm only going to link to since they don't really qualify as free CC. (You might need to be signed into the forums to see them.)
http://www.digitalperversion.net/gardenofshadows/index.php?topic=3317.0
http://www.simscave.com/ferris/index.php?topic=3340.0


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Panthpirate on 2008 August 12, 23:00:52
Oo. *runs off to Helgasims*  :D :P


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Immortelle on 2008 August 12, 23:56:33
Oooh <claps hands and bounces around excitedly>  moar Enayla stuff!!  Gottagetitall gottagetitall!!! <races off to Insims>


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 August 13, 02:40:36
And when my computer with still frankenstiened together, the hair looked decent. Rather fake, but I could deal with. Well now with my newer graphics card, I have been debating on deleting it just because now I can see parts where the mesh goes different ways, and how the texture doesn't line all the way up with the mesh.

Oh, hon, delete the damn thing! Honestly, there are way better hairs out there. I just did a little bit of searching and came up with these - I'm sure you could find more if you dug around a bit.

For the sake of a side-by-side (or top-to-bottom?), here's Chaz's mess.

*snip*

Here's a similar one by Helga. (I'm in love with this hair by the way.)


*snip*

One from enriquemt0 at MTS2

*snip*

And a couple of pay-mesh retextures which I'm only going to link to since they don't really qualify as free CC. (You might need to be signed into the forums to see them.)
http://www.digitalperversion.net/gardenofshadows/index.php?topic=3317.0
http://www.simscave.com/ferris/index.php?topic=3340.0

MMM Thank you! Quite lovely meshes, I love Helga's but I can't find a decent red recolor of that hair  :'( Because orange doesn't qualify as red to me.....

I've been meaning to actually learn how to texture hair and fix chaz's mess.... but I have a lot of things I have been meaning to do and haven't done :P


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: fway on 2008 August 13, 08:46:31
Ugly ass toddler pajamas by SimAddict99 @ TSR

(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/tmp/665/665511.jpg)



Beautifully done fleece PJ's by fakepeeps7 @ MTS2

(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk221/hekkahekkawhat/MTS2_fakepeeps7_798555_toddlerfleec.jpg)
http://hideki.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=296708


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: WonderRik on 2008 August 13, 12:57:09
And when my computer with still frankenstiened together, the hair looked decent. Rather fake, but I could deal with. Well now with my newer graphics card, I have been debating on deleting it just because now I can see parts where the mesh goes different ways, and how the texture doesn't line all the way up with the mesh.

Oh, hon, delete the damn thing! Honestly, there are way better hairs out there. I just did a little bit of searching and came up with these - I'm sure you could find more if you dug around a bit.

For the sake of a side-by-side (or top-to-bottom?), here's Chaz's mess.

*snip*

Here's a similar one by Helga. (I'm in love with this hair by the way.)


*snip*

One from enriquemt0 at MTS2

*snip*

And a couple of pay-mesh retextures which I'm only going to link to since they don't really qualify as free CC. (You might need to be signed into the forums to see them.)
http://www.digitalperversion.net/gardenofshadows/index.php?topic=3317.0
http://www.simscave.com/ferris/index.php?topic=3340.0

MMM Thank you! Quite lovely meshes, I love Helga's but I can't find a decent red recolor of that hair  :'( Because orange doesn't qualify as red to me.....

I've been meaning to actually learn how to texture hair and fix chaz's mess.... but I have a lot of things I have been meaning to do and haven't done :P

There's a Nouk retexture of that mesh at Sims2 Supernova.  http://www.sims2supernova.com/showthread.php?t=1610.  I haven't seen many recolours of that mesh, which is a shame because I love it. 


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 August 13, 16:40:32
Thank you wonder! THey are gorgeous! I don't quite understand the forum though.... it seems that the posts go backwards instead of forwards?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: falln_angel on 2008 August 13, 17:07:14
There's a Nouk retexture of that mesh at Sims2 Supernova.  http://www.sims2supernova.com/showthread.php?t=1610.  I haven't seen many recolours of that mesh, which is a shame because I love it. 

Oh wow! Those are beyond amazing. I was going to suggest Nouk textures since I love her reds and was actually in the process of loading Bodyshop to see if I could make it work decently with my horrific lack of tallent. (Getting better, but I still get 'seams' all over the place. I need to practice more but hate practising.) But now I don't have to because someone has done it for me... and I've found another forum-of-pretty-stuff. :D


Missbonbon, the forum layout annoyed me a bit too, but you can change it. Click on your username at the top of the page and select "Edit Options". Then scroll down to "Thread Display Options" and in the area that says "Thread Display Options" select "Linear - Oldest First". Don't forget to save changes.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Plum on 2008 August 13, 19:30:27
This is one of my favorite threads EVAR!  I'm totally in love with that Helga hair too, falln_angel.  I put it on my selfsim and my favorite model.  :}


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: ChaosInAMinor on 2008 August 13, 19:52:12
I really liked that Helga hair too, but hated the textures. Nouk's textures on it are beautiful. This is an awesome thread.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: They on 2008 August 14, 20:21:25
I'm not sure if this has been done before, but what I'm going to show proves Free Sites Pwning Paysite Shit in Quality and Quantity. At the same time.

The Subject: Disney Character Undies.

First, The Pay, and I forgot exactly who made what here:

(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/548/548133.jpg)

(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/523/523967.jpg)

(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/634/634730.jpg)

And Finally, The Free, starting with these made by Plum of MTS2, which can be obtained here: (http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=297138)

(http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/787/prevprincessfulloo1.jpg)

And second, one piece of undies part of a set by Phaenoh of MTS2, obtainable here: (http://sumomo.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=240499)

(http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/290/mts2576334phaenohchildfov9.jpg)

In addition, both of the above are just one parts of bigger set of undies compared to the feeble TSR attempts. And those Free creators didn't use the old boring EAxis boycut panties style either!  ;D

(I would criticize about the lack of tops for Plum's sets, but I can't really do that here.)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Tabby on 2008 August 14, 22:58:28
 To be honest, I prefer the girls to just have panties and no tops. I never wore a tank top under my clothes, my daughter doesn't either. It's just personal opinion I suppose. I wish we had more for teens and adults too. Not to be perverted, but if it was at all possible, I didn't/don't wear a bra. LOL  :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: tardqueen on 2008 August 14, 23:35:12
Thank you for this thread. there is so much yummy content in here, my folder will be huge!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Lilyroseisapirate on 2008 August 15, 00:34:41
i love the panties too, i wish we had both versions though ( one with a tank) however, i didn't wear much clothing as a child either...


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: HeartOFire on 2008 August 15, 00:51:34
Off topic, but when she wears sweaters, my daughter always wants an undershirt under her regular shirt.  She is convinced the sweaters are going to "itch" her.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Plum on 2008 August 15, 01:38:20
I've always worn an undershirt under sweaters too, for the same reason, even if they're soft.  xD

I think it's 'cause my favorite Mickey Mouse sweater when I was a kid was itchy.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: They on 2008 August 15, 03:41:34
I've always worn an undershirt under sweaters too, for the same reason, even if they're soft.  xD

I think it's 'cause my favorite Mickey Mouse sweater when I was a kid was itchy.

I didn't even noticed that you posted here until now! (I think the wanking avatar distracted me from your name.)

And I think perhaps that's another reason why EAxis made female child undies with tank tops on them, in addition to the whole nudity deal and stuff. (I don't know if EAxis made those kind of sweaters as base game/EP/SP Everyday wear though.)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Plum on 2008 August 15, 03:47:56
I have posted here 616 times.  *booty shake*

EAxis made tank tops and shorty panties 'cause they fe0r making cute little panties will release their inner pedo.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: falln_angel on 2008 August 15, 03:54:02
I'm not entirely sure why kids get an underwear option at all, personally. I wore undies all the time as a kid, but always under clothes. I'll concede to being a bit prudish on this matter though.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Plum on 2008 August 15, 04:04:51
You didn't run around the house screaming, wearing nothing but character printed chonies on a daily basis??  You poor, poor girl.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Vod Kaknockers on 2008 August 15, 05:31:32
God how I wanted a pair of Wonder Woman Underoos, but I made do with (I believe) C3PO ones.  Running around in your undies was the shit.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Viking Marta on 2008 August 15, 05:38:05
Mine were boring...I just remember having a set, each labeled with a different day of the week.  In different colors. 

This thread is awaking very odd memories. ???


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Plum on 2008 August 15, 05:41:28
One of my simplest joys as a child was wearing my day of the week undies on the wrong day.  Made me feel like a real man.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: They on 2008 August 15, 07:24:34
One of my simplest joys as a child was wearing my day of the week undies on the wrong day.  Made me feel like a real man.

Did people noticed you doing that? If so, were you scolded for it?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Plum on 2008 August 15, 08:10:30
I remember having an epic battle with my best friend over whether or not it was proper.  She's very conservative.

...This thread has gone horribly wrong.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Silver Arrows on 2008 August 15, 18:07:43
Lovely free hair by adele
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee162/silverssimstuff/funstuff/adele.jpg) (http://adele-sims.com/)

Vs WTF from the Sims 2 Store
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee162/silverssimstuff/funstuff/ea.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2008 August 15, 20:08:22
when I was really little, I ran around the house in nothing at all

and when we ended up going to Barcelona, I sulked because my parents made -me- wear a swimsuit, unlike every other kid on the beach.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Panthpirate on 2008 August 15, 21:18:32
and when we ended up going to Barcelona

Barcelona! *wants to go*  ;D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 August 15, 21:30:15
My kid ran around the house in nothing but his underwear until he was 9 or 10. It took me years to convince him to wear pants on the weekend!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: pixelated on 2008 August 15, 21:39:23
I remember being told by my parents on several occasions why I couldn't go out and play naked. I think the explanation had something to do with sand ending up in places where it shouldn't be. >_>


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: keirra on 2008 August 15, 22:19:42
sand ending up in places where it shouldn't be. >_>

Lulz. That cracked me up. FYI: Amp Energy Drink through the nose burns like hell.  :P


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 August 16, 02:19:10
Lovely free hair by adele
snip

Vs WTF from the Sims 2 Store
snip

Am I the only one that thinks that all the stuff from the sims 2 store was just ripped off of other creators?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 August 16, 03:45:05
Complements on your avi, Missbonbon!
I think part of the problem with the store's content is that there's so much stuff that has been done by other creators... which is a good thing, I think.
As for that hair, that has been done by so many different people, it's really not surprising that EA did it as well. It's just sad that they didn't do it better than everyone else.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Plum on 2008 August 16, 06:03:09
I like the new Sim store hairs, to be honest.  The Adele one is better, of course.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Lord Darcy on 2008 August 16, 07:44:06
Lovely free hair by adele
<snip>

Vs WTF from the Sims 2 Store
<snip>

That's quite a blatant rip-off on EAxis's part. Not that it's something unprecedented, but still.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Astonished lemons on 2008 August 16, 07:50:06
Complements on your avi, Missbonbon!
I think part of the problem with the store's content is that there's so much stuff that has been done by other creators... which is a good thing, I think.
As for that hair, that has been done by so many different people, it's really not surprising that EA did it as well. It's just sad that they didn't do it better than everyone else.

You'd think they of all people WOULD make it better, but at the same time when you think of how the textures and some of the meshes look in the game itself, you think that they couldnt get anything right.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2008 August 16, 12:29:12
I don't know, the sim store hairs coul have promise if they'd bothered to animate them all and given them decent textures >.>


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 August 16, 16:39:26
thank you dusdee :) I yonked from...... argh short term memory loss :( It's in a recent thread around here somewhere.....

To me the sims store hairs are "ok." That's about it. If there wasn't an outfit I liked I personally would have the hairs (I can't get rid of them without deleting the outfit.) The one that looks like Adele's is okay, but I like how adele's seems fuller. The curly hair had real promise, but then they gave it that gigantic forehead that just ruined it. Even with Hp's fix for it it still seems off on some of my simmies.....



Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2008 August 16, 17:03:35
thank you dusdee :) I yonked from...... argh short term memory loss :( It's in a recent thread around here somewhere.....

To me the sims store hairs are "ok." That's about it. If there wasn't an outfit I liked I personally would have the hairs (I can't get rid of them without deleting the outfit.) The one that looks like Adele's is okay, but I like how adele's seems fuller. The curly hair had real promise, but then they gave it that gigantic forehead that just ruined it. Even with Hp's fix for it it still seems off on some of my simmies.....



That's because they didn't animate it.  All other hairs I think they've done [ eaxis] that isn't an updo of some sort, is animated - even the hair for that one sim they released has animated hair, and its curly-ish too.

I might be overly picky, but hair should move - I've got enough frozen in place hair in my MMOs [ except for AoC which has this gorgeously animated stuff.]


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Silver Arrows on 2008 August 16, 17:28:57
Quote
The one that looks like Adele's is okay
The screenshot doesn't show the back. It's fugly. Really fugly.

Quote
I might be overly picky, but hair should move
Unless the animation is done by peggy. I'd rather have cardboard hair than peggy's possessed hairs. ick.

Speaking of Peggy

Realistic curly hair by Helga
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee162/silverssimstuff/funstuff/024.jpg)

Vs

Bowl of spaghetti by Peggy
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee162/silverssimstuff/funstuff/female_0421.jpg)
And it probably has a neck gap too.

Moar:
Helga again
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee162/silverssimstuff/funstuff/021.jpg)

Vs

Peggy's rubbish which PS definitely has a neck gap
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee162/silverssimstuff/funstuff/female_0525.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 August 16, 18:10:00
amethyststeam did a lovely recolor of peggy's hair at GOS

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j61/miss_sabrina/sims2/Peggy29_Female_Retexture_Promo.png)

The textures to me make up for the mesh :)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: redisenchanted on 2008 August 17, 00:42:00
Skanky TSR outfit here: http://phorum.mustnotbenamed.com/index.php/topic,1871.765.html
(reply #779)

VS beautiful, tasteful and sexy outfit by sherahbim at MTS2:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/jmtmom/MTS2_sherahbim_801450_Bejeweled_pic.jpg)

Get it here: http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?p=2005001#post2005001


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Caedre on 2008 August 18, 14:58:50
Don't shoot, but seriously, even though Peggy is pay (and we can get it for free anyway  ::) ) I prefer Peggy's crap over Helga's.
Although Helga's probably gap-less, I think her textures are kind of eh....


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Millie on 2008 August 18, 15:32:32
Maybe so. But, Helga is free, and we don't bitch about free stuff on here.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Zazazu on 2008 August 18, 16:05:55
Don't shoot, but seriously, even though Peggy is pay (and we can get it for free anyway  ::) ) I prefer Peggy's crap over Helga's.
Although Helga's probably gap-less, I think her textures are kind of eh....
Some of her earlier textures aren't that great, but she's improved exponentially. We all have a learning curve, and I couldn't do it nearly as well as her. Plus, no gap.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Jojoba on 2008 August 18, 16:23:36
Don't shoot, but seriously, even though Peggy is pay (and we can get it for free anyway  ::) ) I prefer Peggy's crap over Helga's.
Although Helga's probably gap-less, I think her textures are kind of eh....

Yes but as the mesh is free, so is available easily for more people, there are plenty of good retextures/recolours of it around, such as this by IcedMango  (http://sumomo.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=288558), these  (http://www.simscave.com/ferris/index.php?topic=3137.0)by drpixelfan, these (http://www.simscave.com/ferris/index.php?topic=3184.0) also at SimsCave, maxis-match ones by Rissa (http://rissa-styles.tevalon.de/content/blogcategory/18/55/)...and probably more  :P


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2008 August 18, 17:20:05
I respect anyone that can create good stuff because I've tried and I can't do it. It ain't easy and my (non-existent) hat is off to all of the people that provide us this stuff for free so we can liven up and improve our games. Thanks, guys!


edited because my spelling bites today and I am an ediot.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2008 August 18, 17:32:25
I like Helga's hairs, I just don't use them because they aren't animated at all.  Unless the hair is short or in an updo sort of style, I love having it move.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Silver Arrows on 2008 August 18, 19:09:06
Jenfold's pirate outfits (http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=245690) at MTS2
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee162/silverssimstuff/funstuff/piratesjenfold.jpg)

Vs What are you thinking? by Shakeshaft @ TSR
(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/tmp/560/560061.jpg)

Quote
I prefer Peggy's crap over Helga's.
Although Helga's probably gap-less, I think her textures are kind of eh....
"Peggy's crap over helga's" meaning? Helga's is crap too? Helga's textures may not be perfect, but like the previous posters said, lots of beautiful free recolours are available. And peggy doesn't know the difference between blue, black and purple!

Quote
Although Helga's probably gap-less
Because everyone likes a lovely view of the sky (http://paysitescams.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/snapshot_d4968987_55585796.jpg) through their sim's neck!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Caedre on 2008 August 18, 20:04:36
Oh my, get your panties out of a twist. I wasn't saying that Helga's hair is crap, I was just saying that I prefer Peggy's hair over Helga's, and yes I referred to Peggy's hair as crap, but not to Helga. Because you obviously find Peggy's hair crappy. And to me, the colors of the hair don't matter because I retexture them anyway. I just don't like the way Helga forms her meshes.
So thats why I like them better.

You shouldn't be so offended just because it's a free creator. I'm just stating my opinion.

And by the way, I don't like neck-gaps either, but I don't get disturbed by them as I use mainly long hairs.

So I am no way stating that it is a fact that Peggy's hair is better than Helga's, I'm just saying that it is my personal opinion that I like Peggy's hair better (to retexture).

srs bizniz  8)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 August 18, 21:12:49
Peggy's are better to retexture, that's true. Of course, one could argue that that because Helga's don't need to be retextured, they are superior. That, and they're made with love, not greed.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: redisenchanted on 2008 August 18, 22:27:33
Oh my, get your panties out of a twist. I wasn't saying that Helga's hair is crap, I was just saying that I prefer Peggy's hair over Helga's, and yes I referred to Peggy's hair as crap, but not to Helga. Because you obviously find Peggy's hair crappy. And to me, the colors of the hair don't matter because I retexture them anyway. I just don't like the way Helga forms her meshes.
So thats why I like them better.

You shouldn't be so offended just because it's a free creator. I'm just stating my opinion.

And by the way, I don't like neck-gaps either, but I don't get disturbed by them as I use mainly long hairs.

So I am no way stating that it is a fact that Peggy's hair is better than Helga's, I'm just saying that it is my personal opinion that I like Peggy's hair better (to retexture).

srs bizniz  8)

This isn't the place to praise pay creators period. We hate them here and want to destroy them. Read the FAQ and lurk moar.  There are plenty of forums where you can gush about Peggy, this isn't one of them.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Souvenirs on 2008 August 19, 01:44:06
For what it's worth, I don't like Helga's meshes either (or Peggy's, actually), but as long as she's not charging for them, it's hands off.  I figure if plenty of players like them, and she's not sucking money out of clueless people, then she's obviously contributing to the community, even if I don't like her stuff personally. :)

Here's one of Sunair's hair meshes (the front is...strange :-X) versus infinitely nicer XM hair in a similar headband style:

(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/tmp/490/490329.jpg)

(http://xs230.xs.to/xs230/08341/5809.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: deelink on 2008 August 19, 03:44:45
Now I don't watch Star Trek, but even to me that Sunair hair just SCREAMS Klingon.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: LadySandyOinkers on 2008 August 19, 04:12:32
For the sake of a side-by-side (or top-to-bottom?), here's Chaz's mess.

(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/592/592438.jpg)

Here's a similar one by Helga. (I'm in love with this hair by the way.)

(http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/218/020bigms3.jpg) (http://www.helgasims.com/hair7.htm)
(click images for download page)


Absolutely no comparison. The helga hair is so pretty! And exactly what I have been looking for (for my self sim)! Thanks for bringing it to our attention!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 August 19, 05:14:14
Seriously? You couldn't cut out the pictures for that?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: jilly on 2008 August 19, 07:58:20
See the difference between this fugly TSR castle, complete with no terrain or landscape:

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q186/jilly4/castle.jpg)


and this lovely MTS2 castle?


(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q186/jilly4/MTS2_642489_Christine11778_ChateauA.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: fway on 2008 August 19, 10:20:00
Kate @ Parsimonious' Wandering
(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk221/hekkahekkawhat/k8-Wandering.jpg)
http://www.parsimonious.org/furniture2/build/k8-Wandering.shtml


vs. Shakeshaft's TOTAL RIPOFF 'Romany Life in Mauve' - I'm assuming the rest of this set will be coming... or already has
(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/766/766871.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Millie on 2008 August 19, 11:05:45
I have Kates caravans in game. They are perfect, right down to the last detail - old fashioned telephone, bath/shower recolours to fit the Gypsy theme, kitchen gypsified. I love it.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Rissa on 2008 August 19, 12:23:07
See the difference between this fugly TSR castle, complete with no terrain or landscape:

***

and this lovely MTS2 castle?


***

If you want to compare castles you just have to mention the wonderful free castles by Dimorasims (http://www.webalice.it/mikebur50/)!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Silver Arrows on 2008 August 19, 17:56:21
Quote
Oh my, get your panties out of a twist.
My knickers are utterly not in a twist. Sorry if you think I'm being confrontational or summin. Just the way you said "peggy's crap over helga's" sounded (to me) like you were bunching them both as crap.

You're free to prefer peggy's hairstyles over any other artists, but you can't deny, at least helga's meshes are free and  good quality i.e no neck gaps and possessed hair flying around every time your sims breathe. Why get pay content when free artists make much better quality items? And that is what this thread's about.

Quote
And to me, the colors of the [peggy] hair don't matter because I retexture them anyway
Quote
Although Helga's probably gap-less, I think her textures are kind of eh....
Uh?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: jilly on 2008 August 19, 18:23:25

If you want to compare castles you just have to mention the wonderful free castles by Dimorasims (http://www.webalice.it/mikebur50/)!

Hmm I didn't see that one, but the castles are awesome  :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Markus on 2008 August 19, 18:31:36
That caravan at Parsimonious looks awesome. :)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Emma on 2008 August 19, 18:38:29
That caravan at Parsimonious looks awesome. :)

I must download them and have me some Gypsy sims! I think I might move Natasha Una into one ;D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Rissa on 2008 August 19, 20:26:09
Quote
Oh my, get your panties out of a twist.
My knickers are utterly not in a twist. Sorry if you think I'm being confrontational or summin. Just the way you said "peggy's crap over helga's" sounded (to me) like you were bunching them both as crap.

You're free to prefer peggy's hairstyles over any other artists, but you can't deny, at least helga's meshes are free and  good quality i.e no neck gaps and possessed hair flying around every time your sims breathe. Why get pay content when free artists make much better quality items? And that is what this thread's about.

Quote
And to me, the colors of the [peggy] hair don't matter because I retexture them anyway
Quote
Although Helga's probably gap-less, I think her textures are kind of eh....
Uh?

I think what Caedre wants to say is that most Peggysims textures are rather straight so that they are easy to retexture while most hairs by Helga are at least a bit wavy/curly. This means that if you don't like the rather realistic textures by Helga and want to retexture them, you'd either use a straight texture which makes the hair look kinda strange, or you have to work really hard to get the original wavy look but with textures to your liking.
And if I remember right Caedre prefers Maxis-matching textures which might look nice on some of Helga's hairs, but not on all of them...

Just export some hairtextures by Helga and Peggy and compare them, and you'll notice the difference.

This of course doesn't mean that Helga's hairs are worse than Peggy's, they just use totally different ways of texturing, but from the view of someone who deals with hair textures on a daily basis Caedre's arguments are understandable.
For someone who just downloads the original style or recolors are these arguments irrelevant though.


Edit: typo


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 August 19, 20:27:24
I think it's great when free creators recolor pay meshes and actually make them look better than the original creator's textures. Because, really, if you're going to create the mesh, shouldn't you make the hair look good?

Thus, we have peggy's mesh and her version of crazy colored hair:
(http://www.peggyzone.com/html/images/Peggy_Fh080524_Pegy059_rose_s.jpg)

versus Ana's version of crazy colored hair (with the same mesh)
which you can find right here (http://www.wickednoukfamily.com/) (in the new aspiration set - YAY).


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: falln_angel on 2008 August 19, 20:59:20
which you can find right here (http://www.wickednoukfamily.com/) (in the new aspiration set - YAY).

Yay from me too! I didn't realize the new set was up until just now.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Caedre on 2008 August 20, 10:19:52
Quote
Oh my, get your panties out of a twist.
My knickers are utterly not in a twist. Sorry if you think I'm being confrontational or summin. Just the way you said "peggy's crap over helga's" sounded (to me) like you were bunching them both as crap.

You're free to prefer peggy's hairstyles over any other artists, but you can't deny, at least helga's meshes are free and  good quality i.e no neck gaps and possessed hair flying around every time your sims breathe. Why get pay content when free artists make much better quality items? And that is what this thread's about.

Quote
And to me, the colors of the [peggy] hair don't matter because I retexture them anyway
Quote
Although Helga's probably gap-less, I think her textures are kind of eh....
Uh?

I think what Caedre wants to say is that most Peggysims textures are rather straight so that they are easy to retexture while most hairs by Helga are at least a bit wavy/curly. This means that if you don't like the rather realistic textures by Helga and want to retexture them, you'd either use a straight texture which makes the hair look kinda strange, or you have to work really hard to get the original wavy look but with textures to your liking.
And if I remember right Caedre prefers Maxis-matching textures which might look nice on some of Helga's hairs, but not on all of them...

Just export some hairtextures by Helga and Peggy and compare them, and you'll notice the difference.

This of course doesn't mean that Helga's hairs are worse than Peggy's, they just use totally different ways of texturing, but from the view of someone who deals with hair textures on a daily basis Caedre's arguments are understandable.
For someone who just downloads the original style or recolors are these arguments irrelevant though.


Edit: typo

Hmm hmm yeah n____n thank you!

I'm not good at explaining myself anyway x___x but if you Helga's meshes and Peggy's.. compare the curly ones, for me Peggy's curly ones are more fun to paint because theyre actually on a flat mesh.
I just dont like meshed curls, my personal preference.

And yeah, I love maxis textures <3

Anyway, on topic:

I've got something to compare aswell, something I noticed while looking for a hairstyle I used to have..

(http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/4478/peggyhairxb0.jpg)

Peggy hair vs XM Sims hair:

(http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/3848/xmsflorameshhair068en6.jpg)

Is it to me or are they similar? XM Sims' actually animated and Peggy's isnt.


Also; If I'm being confusing.. english isn't my native tongue n___n


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Rissa on 2008 August 20, 11:22:06
You're welcome

Two more Peggy and XM comparations:

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h34/Carisssa_2006/special-0607-9-b.jpg)

VS

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h34/Carisssa_2006/XMS_Flora_MeshHair035.jpg)


and

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h34/Carisssa_2006/Peggy_Fh080112_cnan_black_b.jpg)

VS

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h34/Carisssa_2006/XMS_Flora_MeshHair021.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Ashbashtus on 2008 August 20, 17:33:17
I have that XM hair (one with the headband) in my game and it looks amazing..The preview picture actually shows the truth unlike Peggy's photoshoped pieces of crap


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 August 20, 20:24:47
These past couple posts have put me in mind of the fact that no matter how many short hairs I find (and download), I can never find one that really looks like mine.
My hair is so bad that even Peggy won't mesh it. Is this an indication that I should get a better hairdo?   :)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Feverish on 2008 August 20, 23:03:33
*curious* Now I wanna see your hair. 


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: keirra on 2008 August 20, 23:05:35
Me too. Pony up a picture. Cover your face or something if your too shy to put your pic up. I find it impossible to believe that Peggy wouldn't mesh it. Peggy meshes crazy hairdos.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Ry on 2008 August 20, 23:12:26
Keirra, are you Calvin or the bully?
 :D
I love that av, good one.

And yes, I wants to see the hair that Peggy won't mesh!! Peas?
And carrots?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: keirra on 2008 August 20, 23:34:26
*keirra waves at Ry how ya doing?

Of course I am the bully! No one makes me pee my pants!  ;D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 August 20, 23:50:03
I think I am a little shy about that.  :-[ My hair isn't crazy. It's not colored at all (totally natural!), and it's not cut weird, it's just that I got sick of it back in January and had my boyfriend/husband/life-partner-person take the buzzers to it. It's grown out since then, though. If I absolutely had to, I would make a self-sim using the hair in the picture at down at the bottom. But it's not really like that. It's kind of a mix between that and a few other shorter hairs out there. I just haven't found a hair that looks like it's grown completely naturally out of the skull. And I think that's because it's not a very aesthetically pleasing look.  :D

(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f114/dusdeedawn/PeggyDonation112Rissa.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: jilly on 2008 August 21, 00:07:48
The XM hair with the headband is awesome in the game  :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2008 August 21, 00:26:26
dusdeedawn, don't feel bad, I once had a haircut that made me look sort of like a fiber optic lamp. And, keirra, the only time you have pee'd yourself is when you were laughing to hard.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: ChaosInAMinor on 2008 August 21, 08:06:07
My life's worst haircuts come from elementary school (as I'm sure, everyone else's). I was a little trouble maker and always getting into things, so my mom always cut it really short...and really badly. I think I've been permanently traumatized because now I freak out if my hair is cut any shorter than my shoulders. Needless to say, I have pretty long hair now.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 August 21, 08:28:40
Both long and short hair each have their own benefits. I really liked it when my hair was an inch and a half long. Now it sucks!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 August 21, 14:44:19
Yeah back in elementary school I used to get my hair cut short like how reba mcentire used to do hers. Needless to say in all my elementary school pictures I look like a boy. After seeing those pictures I haven't cut my hair that short since.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: gabbi_the_insomniac on 2008 August 21, 15:42:16
xD. When I was in elementary I got my hair cut super short like Halle Berry's used to be. All the kids teased me and said I looked like a boy (even though I didn't. I have a really girlie face) until I punched one of the in the face. The rest of them shut up quick.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2008 August 21, 15:56:14
Yay!  I had short hair too - my mom had straight hair and some jealousy issues about my curly locks...so kept it super short.

I just never punched anyone....was too much of a wuss.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: ChaosInAMinor on 2008 August 21, 17:39:23
No? That's kind of sad. Beating up boys was one of my favorite pasttimes. My older brother is autistic and was made fun of a lot of the playground, so I spent a lot of time showing them the error of their ways. I was suspended for three days for giving a boy a black eye and bloody nose after he said something mean about my brother AND my sister. When my dad heard why I was suspended, he took me out for ice cream.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Ry on 2008 August 21, 19:16:10
Lots of fights for me.

My hair was short, I wouldn't let my mom brush it. AND my name is Ryan.

So, yeah. Gender confusion...lmao! Just kidding. But I didn get teased alot and I knocked a ton of boys, and girls, down about it.

I never got suspended until HS, though. That was for skipping classes. I never got caught when I got into fights. I sneaky-like. ;)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 August 21, 19:26:45
Soggy, I knew this girl growing up that had beautiful red curly hair, but she had so many problems maintaining it. It was awful for both her and her mother. It took years to find the right method, but the last time I saw her she had let it grow down past her butt. Back when we were younger, however, she was always saying how much she hated her hair. Anyhow, to get to an eventual point here, if I were the mother of a curly haired child, I'm positive that I would chop it all off at least once. I'm too lazy to deal with it!  :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Pa sysite Crap
Post by: Zillah on 2008 August 21, 19:36:21
As a kid, all I wanted was long, long hair like my sisters and my best friend. Mom always gave me the Pebbles Flintstone look - including the stupid ponytail on top of my head. God I hated that. Anyway, as an adult I finally grew it down to my waist, and very quickly got sick of shutting it in car windows, having it fall into my artwork while I was working, taking all day to dry, my boyfriend rolling over onto it and pinning me in my sleep. Now my hair's about and inch or so long. I use HP's Athena mesh for my self sim. Short again. No stupid ribbon on my head though.

-edited for clarity-


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2008 August 21, 20:53:43
My mom only let my middle sister have long hair - because it was straight - and the stupid brat never washed it.  Mine, when it was longish wasn't hard to manage....not nearly as bad as it is now.

But I can't seem to get it to look like its past my shoulders, no matter what.  It just curls more as it grows out.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Millie on 2008 August 21, 21:00:48
Dusdee, my daughter has fine, curly hair, with a double crown  :D

Bless her heart. She wants long hair like her friends, but it just doesn't seem to grow. The more it grows, the curlier it gets, and the hairdressing gene in the family skipped a generation with me! Consequently, I can just about manage to get it into a ponytail, or she looks like Hermione granger in the first Harry Potter film  :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Aralie on 2008 August 21, 21:16:58
I had long hair, like down to my butt, until about 7th grade. I got it cut once...well, actually, I tried to cut it myself when I was about 10. Bad idea. It was horrible. One side was really short. I had to get school pictures taken the next day. They were awful! My mother was so pissed! It grew back though, and it was down to my butt again. I keep it shoulder length now, but I'm really thinking about getting it cut because it's such a pain. It won't curl very well, and it won't straighten at all. It's just wavy and really really thick.

I used to beat up boys too. I was such a tomboy. I still am too, I just don't dress boyish anymore.  :P
I remember once in junior high, this boy kept harassing my friend. He was always talking crap about her or grabbing her butt. One day he did that and I saw him. They were up on the bleachers. It made me mad, so I marched right up there and told him off. He didn't believe that I would/could hurt him... so I punched him in the face. I broke his nose. The principal came in, not long after that, and told me to go to class. The boy got suspended and I didn't even get in trouble. I guess they knew what a jerk he was. He never tried messing with my friends again.  ;D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Beth on 2008 August 21, 23:55:11
I recently got my hair cut, thinned and styled (and it costed lots of monie). My hair os so thick and naturally "curly" (by "curly" I mean it's go all whispy, with curls going in all directions, not manageable at all).
Now that I got it cut, it's a heck of a lot better to manage, plus it's quite a nice style.
Normally I'd straighten my hair after washig it, just so that I could control it but since the chop I aint too bothered if I don't straighten it as it looks pretty :]
I would like to show you but I'd be ashamed for making you see my ugly mug. I' just so pleased since this cut, I'm constantly playing with my hair, but it'd also show you that my self sim looks fuck all like me :P


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Dr House on 2008 August 22, 00:22:11
versus Ana's version of crazy colored hair (with the same mesh)
which you can find right here (http://www.wickednoukfamily.com/) (in the new aspiration set - YAY).
I must say i nearly lost my jaw when i saw that recolor. I'm not so fond of punk style for my sims but gosh these recolors are SO beautiful! (specially compared to the original lol) It's so well-made that it seems like a RL pic :)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Ashbashtus on 2008 August 22, 00:25:08
I had long hair, like down to my butt, until about 7th grade. I got it cut once...well, actually, I tried to cut it myself when I was about 10. Bad idea. It was horrible. One side was really short. I had to get school pictures taken the next day. They were awful! My mother was so pissed

Haha I tried to cut my own bangs the day before preschool. When my mom was in the shower, I took our scissors and just hacked the crap out of them lol..Then I "hid" the evidence under the couch because obviously my mom wouldnt notice my lovely new 'do because the hairs and scissors were hidden lol...She wasnt too thrilled with my sudden creativity  ;)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 August 22, 00:44:24
When I was 5 I used to love to cut off chunks of my hair. Not a lot, just a bit here or there. My mom always noticed. Always. Now I think *DUH* but back then I was like how does she know?!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 August 22, 00:55:01
Soggy, I knew this girl growing up that had beautiful red curly hair, but she had so many problems maintaining it.

My hair is curly and I hate it.  When I say curly, I mean it is ringlet curly.  By the end of the day, I have a dreadlock in the back of my hair - no matter what I've been doing.  If I comb it with a fine tooth comb, and get all the knots out, if I choose to comb it again after 5 minutes, it has more knots in it.  When I wash my hair I put it in a twisty bun to make it as straight as possible when it dries, so that it can resemble something similar to a hairstyle.  The hairstyle on my sim is what it looks like 2 days after I've washed it (combed and bullied into nice for a couple of days) and how I would like my hair to be all the time.  I envy people with straight hair because my hair is such a hassle - and they always wax lyrical about my hair - with no concept of how hard it is to deal with. 


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2008 August 22, 02:28:20
I like my ringlets, but at least part of it is likely the fact that others really like my ringlets

But its real easy to have them turn into these nasty mats and tangles, and yes, dreadlocks


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Viking Marta on 2008 August 22, 03:02:43
I always wanted curly hair, 'cause it was so pretty.  And the tangles wouldn't have bothered me because my hair has always been stick straight and thin, and tangles into tiny knots the minute I stop brushing, and just gets worse throughout the day.  But I don't think I every got dreadlocks, so that's something.  And it doesn't usually look as badly tangled as it is, so ... *continues to try to count the positive*


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 August 22, 03:09:34
Oh gosh. I used to have board straight hair. Then when I was a child I decided to cut my hair.... That's what started the whole short hair phase. I thought it was fantastic, but my mom hated it. Then in 7th grade I was tired of having board straight hair, I couldn't do anything with it! It was so fine and straight everything fell right out of it.... not even an entire can of hairspray could hold hair clips in...so I got a perm. And it was the perm from hell. I hated it so much I did everything to get rid of it. My hair looked like Little Richards curly do. Now my hair is still curly from it... and that was about 6 years ago.... maybe longer, and if I straighten it, I can manage it, but without straightening it I end up with an afro!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2008 August 22, 03:37:21
Mine is still straight as a string, fine as hell, but there is a lot of it. I have to work like all hell and put all kinds of stuff in it to hold a style, so nowadays, I keep it short because I got sick of the braid wrapping round my throat as I slept or my husband rolling over onto while sleeping and almost scalping me. I sometimes hate my hubby, his is thick and wavy and does what he wants it to. Our son got my hair colour and texture but he got his daddy's waves... Kid is gonna be dangerous around the girls when he's older if we don't teach him properly to behave. And we will or he's gonna be grounded for life!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: JFederated on 2008 August 22, 04:00:29
Cala - my curly sistah.  I do the same thing:  batten my hair to my scalp just so it won't catch on nearby trees or in the car door ( <-- have done both).  My hair's down to my hip soaking wet; air-dried it barely makes it to my shoulderblades!  And it frizzes, like an outer pelt.  Humid days I have fuzz on my head.  I sometimes can hear it frizzing...'eeee'...makes me wanna dip my head in a vat of motor oil.

It takes an hour to blow my hair dry straight, and it's longer than my arms so it's exhausting too - my hairdryer actually smokes after 20 minutes or so.  But I can't have it short, short is worse and it's just not worth the effort.  I've been living under it for a while now, and it has won the war.   :-\


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Feverish on 2008 August 22, 05:05:55
I have short kinky hair. I'm suppose to be putting a perm(relaxer) on it right now to straighten it. I don't wanna. :-[ I like my hair when it's permed, but I hate actually doing it. It sometimes burns, and I'm just lazy. I've been thinking a lot about getting dreadlocks. My cousin has them, and I love how they look. And the idea of not having to perm(chemically relax) iis sooooo nice. I'd probably die the tips. I don't know if I can commit to dreads because if I ever change my mind I'd have to cut my hair off. You can't just comb dreads out.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: brainiac on 2008 August 22, 05:37:51
Oh, I have that same curling problem with my hair. It's well down my shoulders when it's wet, but as soon as it dries the stupid curling keeps it up and close to my neck. Very annoying.

My hair is a bitch to maintain, really. It's incredibly thick (like with all the women in my mother's family), and gets tied up in knots all the time. If I don't shampoo every day it'll become similar to a bushel. No amount of brushing could save it then.

One thing, however, that keeps it soft and easy to wade through with a comb is Pantene. That thing's a miracle worker. Your hair actually feels like silk, which is very nice.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: lemonwater on 2008 August 22, 07:21:51
I have some comparisons :)

Simsconnection Donation Crap
(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w209/sean283/random/anonymoussmall.jpg)

Louis's beautiful hairs (http://sumomo.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=212578)

More Simsconnection fug
(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w209/sean283/random/loveletters.jpg)

MYOS hair (http://simsartistsunion.com/bbs/view.php?id=down&no=91)

Even More SimsConnection
(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w209/sean283/random/AffectionMainsmall.jpg)

Beautiful HystericalParoxysm Hair (http://www.demusedsims.com/seraph.html)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 August 22, 07:24:07
Oh you just can't have short curly hair - it looks like a ball.  Absolutely worthless.  I don't use Pantene because a hairdresser told me that it coats the hair with some sort of silicon mixture/compound, and after a while, your hair won't take dye or anything.  So, as I dye my hair various shades of red to lighten up the black, I want dyed hair.

I personally think that dreadlocks are absolutely beautiful, but just do not have the sort of face that suits them.   

To the actual subject of the thread though:

From TSR windkeeper fish-shaped rocks for your pond:
(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/tmp/252/252046.jpg)

From a free site, animated fishies for your pond:
(http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/2122/fishpondvd0.jpg)

Good free stuff available here: http://www.insimenator.net/showthread.php?t=72928 (http://www.insimenator.net/showthread.php?t=72928)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 August 22, 08:27:41
Dreadlocks! (No, I don't want to get back on topic  :P)
I stopped brushing my hair. 6 freaking months and all I got was a small mat in front and a rather larger mat in the back. After 6 freaking months. My hair was in the middle of my back! I didn't even use conditioner. I was slightly disappointed. And then came the buzzers.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Feverish on 2008 August 22, 08:44:14
Well if all you did was stopped grooming your hair, then of course all you are gonna get is matted hair. You'll need to back comb or twist it. They even have products to help.
http://www.dreadheadhq.com/
http://www.dreadheadhq.com/make_dreadlocks_dread_it_up_index.php
I think my cousin just started twisting hers. We have kinky hair so it might be easier.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Astonished lemons on 2008 August 22, 09:09:40
Hope I havent missed the Hair-stories band wagon!

Acording to my mom from ages birth to three I had hair so curly that straightened it was bottom length, but normal it was earlobe legnth. I now have tangly unmanageable wavy hair.

My sister once got ahold of some siscors that were hidden on top of the fridge when she was four, (I had taught her how to put a chair next to the cunter, and climb up to the spot where the scissors, keys, and other neat things were). She gave herself a reverse mohawk in that she cut all her hair straight down the middle. She was the one with the long, pretty hair too so it looked funny.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Anouk on 2008 August 22, 09:40:41
I'm a surinam/dutchie cross so my hair is a bunch of tiny curls, very soft but very easily dried out and brittle.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Pooki on 2008 August 22, 09:52:00
My hair used to be very thick and curly.  Now it is not so thick but still curly.  I hate it when it gets knotted up.   :P


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 August 22, 09:57:19
I didn't really want real dreads so much as really messy hair. Seriously, you could hardly tell I didn't brush it. No one believed me when I said I hadn't brushed my hair in months. It just took a bit longer to dry. Sad.
I like the idea of a reverse mohawk, though! Think of all the comb-over opportunities!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Astonished lemons on 2008 August 22, 10:27:28
SHHH!! Peggy might be listening!

*Glances around nervously*


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Ashbashtus on 2008 August 22, 16:38:12
SHHH!! Peggy might be listening!

*Glances around nervously*

haha hilarious Lemons! Oh God, here comes the gap filled dreadlocks in MS Paint colors


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: gabbi_the_insomniac on 2008 August 22, 17:04:03
My hair is also ridiculously thick and curly.  >:(

I do style it pretty nicely but when I don't...

ATTACK OF THE MONDO-FRIZZ

I'd post a picture, but...I'm ugly and I don't want to.



Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: cookiepirate on 2008 August 22, 21:28:16
Mine is Shirley Temple curly on one side, wavy on the other.  Makes it hard to fix or cut and tangles on the curly side.  I wore it in a ponytail for years just so I didn't have to mess with it.  Then I went crazy this past May and had it cut short all over, with just enough length that I can fluff the curls and waves together on top.  Also, colored it to a nice mahagony (goodbye grey!).  Strange thing is, my hair was straight as a board until I had 4 surgeries in one year.  It started curling up after that. ???


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: bluesky on 2008 August 23, 00:08:10
in our family we have every type of hair you can imagine. I have tonnes of hair and when it is short it is straighter, when I let it grow, it is kinky and a little curl but nothing consistent. My brother has beautiful hair (when he had hair) that looked like it just came out of a braid when it was longer and curlier when shorter.
One sister had ringlets like crazy and about to her mid back. When hers was shorter, about 15 years ago, in one of those wonderful stylish bowl/mushroom cuts it was almost straight. She hated it so much she will never go short again. The baby sister has fine, thin, poker straight hair that won't hold a curl without tonnes and tonnes of product.

My son ended up with super curly hair and lots of it. When he takes off his toque in the winter it stands on end  :o but when it is shorter, it is a very nice wavy/curly hair. He has now learned that he needs to keep it shorter or he will look like a puffy, curly, fro.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2008 August 23, 00:28:37
It scared the curls into you!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: jilly on 2008 August 23, 02:01:32
My hair is of the thick, curly and frizzy variety too  :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Souvenirs on 2008 August 23, 03:03:49
My hair isn't even the same texture all around.  The worst part is the back, which is bizarrely frizzy and curly (the rest is not) and, because it's so thick, it sticks out a lot.  It makes me look like a hunchback.   I got a flat iron when I was a teen, and now I straighten it whenever I have to leave the house.  I have a lot of split ends, but at least it doesn't look completely absurd.

It was a nightmare as a kid.  You don't know how sick I got of explaining to girls with limp, straight hair that I did indeed brush my hair, and that was just how it looked. ::)  Most of them didn't get it (or didn't believe me), and I got made fun of for not brushing (or sometimes it'd be washing) my hair a lot.  Morons.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: JFederated on 2008 August 23, 03:06:20
Anyone's hair change dramatically while preggers?  My sis's hair was once very curly and fine, but after her second it's relaxed quite a bit and stayed that way (kid's five now).  A friend's did the same but eventually went back to its original corkscrewy state.  Another friend developed a bald patch on the back of her head while preggers, had to ponytail until it grew back.

I dunno why I find this so interesting but I do.   :D

@Souvenirs:  sounds like my hair...and life, ha!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Souvenirs on 2008 August 23, 03:29:03
One of my friend's sisters had poker straight hair her entire life and, when she got pregnant, it suddenly became wavy and never went back.  It must be a hormone thing.

That makes me wonder if it's possible to have some kind of hormone therapy to change the texture of one's hair.  Hey, a girl can dream. :P


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: deelink on 2008 August 23, 03:35:15
My hair is thick and too long. I prefer to have it short and layered, just because otherwise it keeps getting in your face and I HATE having to tie back my hair.... oh I HATE IT. I did it for too long in High School, and I think I am traumatised. I think long straight hair is very beautiful, but alas my hair is thick with a wave in it. So it needs to be free otherwise my hair warps to the pony tail so when I take it out, it has this massive kink in it. Grrrrr!

Going to chop it off on Tuesday. Yay!

BTW Calalily, those free fishies are so awesome! Going to download tomorrow :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: jilly on 2008 August 23, 05:14:21
My hair is nice and ringletty in the back and on the sides, but the front is EXTREMELY frizzy. I don't know why  ???


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Immortelle on 2008 August 23, 05:55:39
Mines fine and curly, but there is a lot of it, so it can frizz out a bit if I don't do anything with it.  I got crap at school for 'not brushing' either.  Since become a total hair junkie.  I put a bit of mousse in it every day to control it.  I've got a salon grade hair dryer with a proper diffuser, it gives it a nice curl and no frizz.  If its being a bitch I just get the straigtening iron onto it, or I use some hot rollers and set it.  That or I just tie it back.  I swear by salon shampoo and conditioner now.  Always thought the stuff about being salon grade stuff being better than anything you can get at a supermarket was total bs, but I found a wholesale shop that sells salon stuff cheaper than supermarket stuff, and now won't touch stuff from the supermarket- my hairs gone from unmanagable to almost manageable.  As I said, total hair product junkie.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: jilly on 2008 August 23, 10:12:30
I'm not much for hair products, or skin products... For me the way to go is good old-fashioned soap, shampoo and water  :D

Let's get back on topic:


TSR fug candles:

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q186/jilly4/canfug-1.jpg)

vs. Nice free candles, availible here: http://hideki.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=293859

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q186/jilly4/candid.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Viking Marta on 2008 August 23, 14:53:53
I just downloaded those candles! (the free ones).  I tried so hard not to, with my bulging downloads folder, but they're just gorgeous--and just as beautiful in-game.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: They on 2008 August 23, 18:04:57
Technically, this recolor of this Paysite mesh is free, but the mesh is the broken part of this Pay vs. Free fight.

The Pay: A broken ass (And I mean it literally) mesh from RoseSims, with a free-made Goopyish recolor:

(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a92/lizziecup/boardmisc/rgoopy_front.jpg) (http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a92/lizziecup/boardmisc/rgoopy_back.jpg)

(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a92/lizziecup/boardmisc/rgoopy_yoga.jpg)

The Free: SalixTree's Goopyfied creation from Parsimonious here (http://www.parsimonious.org/fashion2/casual/female_1.shtml) that is guarenteed not to have as much ass.

(http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/9294/stfctotallygoopedupcn3.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2008 August 23, 18:18:42
Two words: crack kills. :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Anyerfillag on 2008 August 23, 19:52:01
When I was 5 I used to love to cut off chunks of my hair. Not a lot, just a bit here or there. My mom always noticed. Always. Now I think *DUH* but back then I was like how does she know?!

My brother did the same when he was about 6/7 years old - he managed to find scissors and cut chunks out of his hair the day before his first ever school picture at Nursery (Kindergarden for US people). My mum rushed him to the hairdressers and gave him a truly close shave - he must have been the only bald kid in his class :D He's still embarrassed by the picture to this day, so much so he's hidden the picture (he's 20!).


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 August 23, 21:31:30
Okay, I love the ass picture! You should make a macro out of that! :D Number one reason why Paysites Must Be Destroyed!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Panthpirate on 2008 August 23, 21:57:16
ROFLMFAO!! *dies laughing* ;D

That asscrack picture is epic win. *saves*



Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dietofworms on 2008 August 23, 21:57:58
Can we have that on our PMBD/MATY merch? ;D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: pixelated on 2008 August 23, 22:20:45
I'm not bashing freesite content here, honestly, but isn't there some... random skin showing at the Parsimonius outfit as well? In an... interesting place. Maybe it's some kind of female Goopy-curse, or just something he requests from his ladies' clothing for convinience?

... Yeah, scaring myself now.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: cookiepirate on 2008 August 23, 22:27:32
I can see it as a macro with "Kiss My Ass" on it....snagging the pic now.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Feverish on 2008 August 23, 22:49:47
I'm not bashing freesite content here, honestly, but isn't there some... random skin showing at the Parsimonius outfit as well? In an... interesting place. Maybe it's some kind of female Goopy-curse, or just something he requests from his ladies' clothing for convinience?

... Yeah, scaring myself now.

Hah. Yeah I see it now. Her poontang is showing. :o


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: JFederated on 2008 August 24, 00:29:48
Gosh, Rose, test in game much?  LAWLZ!

Aside from the ass-hatch, that Rose outfit doesn't make any visual sense at all.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Souvenirs on 2008 August 24, 00:59:38
I'm pretty sure the Parsimonious outfit is made using the same mesh.  I remember reading one of the More Awful Than You threads at MATY (the one on bad meshes, I think?), and Salix Tree and another member both tried to Goopify the Rose ass hatch mesh.  I'm not sure why Salix uploaded it to Parsimonious, though. ???  There's no warning about the faulty mesh up there.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Jojoba on 2008 August 24, 09:45:39
<the ass picture>


We so need a thread for pictures of paysite borkage. Would be hilarious  :P


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: keirra on 2008 August 24, 10:19:34
I agree Jojoba. I don't have any of the borked shit in my game, so, I wouldn't be posting the pics. However, I would love to do alot of pointing and laughing.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Mareada on 2008 August 24, 12:52:09
I remember that this mesh was nominated for More Awful Than You, May 2008 afair.
It's a goopyfied version of Rose's Resident Evil dress made by Liz, Salix Tree made one as well.
And it's dedicated to Emma! :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Tyleetwen on 2008 August 24, 21:43:35
I'd like to play! How about this comfy, free outfit from http://www.briher.dk that looks like something I woulda worn as a teen,

(http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn51/tyleetwen/Briher_TF-HoodiePurple.jpg)

VS. these strangely angle-y clothes from Milano at TSR (especially the third one. I mean, Ow!)

(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/tmp/692/692876.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Viking Marta on 2008 August 24, 22:07:45
That hoodie outfit is really, really cute!  Now I just need to be able to find it on the site ;)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: arrgh on 2008 August 24, 22:58:29
Click on the little british flag, makes things a lot easier  ;)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Panthpirate on 2008 August 24, 23:39:07
That first one looks really nice and comfy. The others are 12ish preppy chearleader crap, which = Fail. I also hate it when teen meshes have high heels, damn you Simchic!  >:( 

On the other hand, converse ftw!  ;D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Viking Marta on 2008 August 25, 06:22:55
Aw, dang it, and I'd actually figured out how to navagate by the icons...silly me ::) 



Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: jilly on 2008 August 25, 06:55:22
Here's the link to the actual download page instead of the front: http://www.briher.dk/ClothesData.php?lang=1&age=T&type=ES&gender=K

And there's lots of nice recolors  :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Silver Arrows on 2008 August 26, 17:08:46
Oooh, that hoodie outfit's cuticus maximus! *download folder creaking under more strain from visiting that site*

As for milano.. You = Massive FAIL!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: gabbi_the_insomniac on 2008 August 26, 21:04:31

VS. these strangely angle-y clothes from Milano at TSR (especially the third one. I mean, Ow!)

*insert ho-teen clothes here*

WOW! Clones holding hands with ugly 12 clothes on!

Seriously. It looks like the creator tried to mimic cheap polyester.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: jilly on 2008 August 27, 06:56:38
(http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/8/26/failteensbym128642936434836294.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 August 27, 23:14:31
Just so everyone knows.... Helga Sims Updated with an awesome hair today!

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j61/miss_sabrina/sims2/ScreenShot011-1.jpg)
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j61/miss_sabrina/sims2/ScreenShot012-1.jpg)
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j61/miss_sabrina/sims2/ScreenShot010-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Anouk on 2008 August 28, 13:21:35
oehhh gorgeous!!!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Tabby on 2008 August 28, 17:36:36
 Oh wow! That is very pretty, thanks for the update.  :-*


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Hannahg on 2008 August 28, 18:57:07
Thanks for the update, looks just like my Mom's hair :)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: autumnrose on 2008 August 28, 19:54:31
Guh! So gorgeous.
Helga hair pwns all.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: gyrobot on 2008 August 29, 00:33:31
Indeed, Free Site aims to be more comfortable and not so sim abusing outfits. Like a free Maxis outfit.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2008 August 29, 01:37:05
Guh! So gorgeous.
Helga hair pwns all.

Except for Nouk hair. :)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: autumnrose on 2008 August 29, 02:32:29
Guh! So gorgeous.
Helga hair pwns all.

Except for Nouk hair. :)
I stand corrected.
Helga+Nouk hairs pwn all.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Anouk on 2008 August 29, 17:10:45
*slips autumn 100 dollar bill*


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 August 29, 17:47:14
Anybody seen this little gem? (and by gem, I mean peggy crap, of course)

Methinks it looks a bit like this (from XMS):


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Astonished lemons on 2008 August 29, 18:04:08
Those two look practically the same from the front!  :o

Peggy you no-good, dirty, rotten, pig kissing big big cheater!

At least xM's stuff isnt gappy and is usually animated.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Millie on 2008 August 29, 18:40:08

I stand corrected.
Helga+Nouk hairs pwn all.


LOL you should see my neighbourhood. They all have either squid or Andre hair by Nouk. Just please, please don't make them viable for men too please nouk. I won't be able to tell the men from the women  :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2008 August 29, 20:12:12
I would love more Nouk hair for men....I have all of her hair, its really my favorite as far as tastes go.  Though I do have some other artists in my folders as far as hair goes.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Millie on 2008 August 29, 21:41:33
So would I soggy. Decent mens hair is thin on the ground. I tend to use the same styles over and over.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 August 30, 01:45:56
I saw that peggy hair today and had to shake my head...

and yes moar men hair! But I would like to see more manly men. Ya know short hair, or slicked back hair like christian bale's! I'm so sick of this covert women's long hair for men, and put your men in a dress......

I'm surprised my neighborhood isn't full of lesbians because I can't make a decent manly man :(


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Owl on 2008 August 30, 02:00:22
Ugh, it's the same here Missbonbon. I mean, if you want to convert female meshes and download\make girly man meshes, that's your choice, but I would like to see some realistic man hairs.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Feverish on 2008 August 30, 02:19:38
Maybe even a comb over. That would be neat.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: spunkysim on 2008 August 30, 06:56:06
Can I ask a dumb HelgaSims question?  Is there an english translation there, or am I out of luck and to just blindly navigate through?  I haven't visited there much because I can't tell where I am going!!  I love that hair and did go get it, but I only have a couple of her things because I can't find my way around her site!  I feel like such a stupid pirate!   :(


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 August 30, 07:23:19
Well, her home page has updates, so if you just click on the picture, it will take you to the correct place. Then it's just a matter of clicking the text right under the picture.
Also, try using Google. Search Helga Sims, then use the little clicky [translate this page], if it's available.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: keirra on 2008 August 30, 07:53:20
If you have FireFox you can get FoxLingo. It's a fairly decent translator. I use it all of the time.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: jilly on 2008 August 30, 08:01:55
The men's hair that I really want is Robert Smith hair, more than regular hair... But that's because I really want to make realistic music videos of The Cure :)


And I'll go pick up FoxLingo now, because it's annoying to go to the google translator every time i want to read a foreign fansite  :P


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Anyerfillag on 2008 August 30, 11:51:59
Er no - Sims 2 site not 'free shit for all site'

Macro time plz?

(http://www.lafferty.ca/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/fail-24.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: autumnrose on 2008 August 30, 13:25:22
(http://icanhascheezburger.wordpress.com/files/2008/05/funny-pictures-fail-cat-paw.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Feverish on 2008 August 30, 16:58:22
The men's hair that I really want is Robert Smith hair, more than regular hair... But that's because I really want to make realistic music videos of The Cure :)


And I'll go pick up FoxLingo now, because it's annoying to go to the google translator every time i want to read a foreign fansite  :P

I just googled Robert Smith, and I'm sure I've seen a similar hair somewhere.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Jojoba on 2008 August 30, 22:11:26
Aikea's done a Robert Smith hair, its somewhere. Exnem forum, if my memory is correct, and possibly GoS as well (?)

Edited to add, yar over at ExnemForum (http://exnemsims.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?s=f5e2b546c8f359b86719b011f653b73a&f=227).


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: jilly on 2008 August 30, 22:35:52
Adele's new Victorian set Pwns Cashcraft's victorian sitting room!

Cashcraft:

(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/tmp/693/693805.jpg)


Adele:

(http://thumbs2.modthesims2.com/img/1/3/7/4/2/4/7/MTS2_Adele_806669_adele_victorianGothic0.jpg)






Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: fway on 2008 August 30, 23:45:40
Adele definitely pwns every paysite furniture creator out there. Her stuff looks real/maxisy at the same time.


Here's how I navigate through Helga's site without any translator:
(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk221/hekkahekkawhat/ScreenShot078.jpg)

I just hover over the links, and va va voom look at the bottom of the window.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: jilly on 2008 August 30, 23:58:47
Adele definitely pwns every paysite furniture creator out there. Her stuff looks real/maxisy at the same time.


Here's how I navigate through Helga's site without any translator:
<picture we don't need to see again>

I just hover over the links, and va va voom look at the bottom of the window.

That's how I do, too. There are a lot of german sites that only are in german, the filenames and all, which is what I use translators for.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Feverish on 2008 August 31, 13:40:15
Aikea's done a Robert Smith hair, its somewhere. Exnem forum, if my memory is correct, and possibly GoS as well (?)

Edited to add, yar over at ExnemForum (http://exnemsims.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?s=f5e2b546c8f359b86719b011f653b73a&f=227).

Thank you. That's exactly the hair I was talking about.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 August 31, 17:24:26
It's a read the FAQ (http://phorum.mustnotbenamed.com/index.php/topic,1104.0.html) for fuck's sake. This is a site for The Sims 2. I thought that Anyerfillag's post made that clear.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: pickles on 2008 August 31, 17:25:27
I have no idea what a "redemption code" is in this case.
PMBD is for freeing illegal Sims 2 paysite files. Not for actually pirating from EA or any othe game company. Moar clear nao?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: autumnrose on 2008 August 31, 17:39:15
It's a no. *shakes fist* GET OFF MY LAWN.
Read the FAQ (http://phorum.mustnotbenamed.com/index.php/topic,1104.0.html) and LURK MOAR.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Tabby on 2008 August 31, 19:23:54
I have no idea what a "redemption code" is in this case.
PMBD is for freeing illegal Sims 2 paysite files. Not for actually pirating from EA or any othe game company. Moar clear nao?


 I am guess they mean the code for the "Exclusive Download" you get when you buy at certain places. It is totally against the rules here, so why they would even ask is beyond me.  ::)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Rissa on 2008 August 31, 19:48:31
Anybody seen this little gem? (and by gem, I mean peggy crap, of course)
http://www.peggyzone.com/html/images/Donate_Show_Detail_Image1.jpg

Methinks it looks a bit like this (from XMS):
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f114/dusdeedawn/XMS_Flora_MeshHair076B.jpg

Just adding another similar and free hairstyle by Helga to compare:
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h34/Carisssa_2006/018.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Anouk on 2008 August 31, 21:03:27
Also XMsims is a paysite.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 August 31, 23:59:19
Also XMsims is a paysite.

Yeah I always wondered why their donation files aren't in the booty?  I like xmsims... and they  haven't released a donation file in ages, so I don't consider them a paysite, but by PMBD it's a paysite


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Ink on 2008 September 01, 01:10:53
They are in the booty, listed under 'inactive sites'.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Owl on 2008 September 01, 04:06:44
Didn't someone say that already? *is confused*


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: keirra on 2008 September 01, 04:48:41
I am confused is that a yes or a no to the redemption codes

Asking this question in this thread was so random. Lulz.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 September 01, 04:56:29
They are in the booty, listed under 'inactive sites'.

Ahhh that would explain my confusion then.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: pixelated on 2008 September 01, 04:58:12
I have no idea what a "redemption code" is in this case.
PMBD is for freeing illegal Sims 2 paysite files. Not for actually pirating from EA or any othe game company. Moar clear nao?


 I am guess they mean the code for the "Exclusive Download" you get when you buy at certain places. It is totally against the rules here, so why they would even ask is beyond me.  ::)

... Except that they've been handed out before, if it's the codes I'm thinking of. The noob needs to use the search function, methinks.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 September 01, 16:43:58
Also XMsims is a paysite.
Holy Crap, I did not even know that. I've never noticed any donation stuff advertised on their site (nor seen them in the booty). And now I feel cheated.  :'(


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Anyerfillag on 2008 September 01, 22:36:39
Ah, I thought random newbie was asking about redemption codes for things like clothes, food etc and not for the Exclusive Downloads :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Grotesque Sharonicle on 2008 September 01, 22:49:03
Be careful, tho. We n00bs hev smal pointy tith. We kan bitez u.

But it's always like that. Free creators are better than those pay shlabs.
I think it's because free creators get 'payed' with good comments and candy and sugar and thank you buttons and lovely affection from others.
So they do their best. And they make the best.

Unlike stupid peggy, I bet she failed at physics in elementary AND high school. Her hairstyles, to me, are . . . . . braking all the rules of gravity etc.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Anyerfillag on 2008 September 01, 22:50:32
Ah, but you're a nice newbie (n00b is kept for trolls and the like) *pats head* especially with that George icon :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Grotesque Sharonicle on 2008 September 01, 23:02:27
Awww, thank you  :) !

I'm glad I don't do (too much) trouble.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: kenmtl on 2008 September 02, 02:26:49
 *ahem*

Thread needz moar perdy pictures.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: PorkchopzNgravy on 2008 September 03, 02:40:58
But doesn't Xmsims release their donation gifts after a while?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Anouk on 2008 September 03, 04:27:11
They're selling content. Easy as that.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Lilyroseisapirate on 2008 September 03, 20:15:04
yea so? Liana sims does the same thing with her donation sets, like Nouk said, still charging for content, still paysite.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Souvenirs on 2008 September 03, 21:36:18
But they haven't released a donation set since early 2006, right?  If their pay items are released, and they haven't released a new one in more than two years, doesn't that make them liberated? 

Or do I have this all wrong?  I'm confused. :-[


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: falln_angel on 2008 September 03, 21:45:52
They've still got a donation area that includes downloads which can only be accessed if you pay them money. (Unless the free versions are hiding somewhere super-secret.) Yeah, it's 'only' a few downloads, and yeah, they're all at least a couple of years old, but until they're available for free, XMSims is still a paysite.

edited because things make much more sense if you spell properly...


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: lemonwater on 2008 September 04, 01:04:05
Yes, I remember XMSims said it was going to release all of its donation sets for free. They do it awfully slow however, and until they are all removed, they're a paysite.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: PorkchopzNgravy on 2008 September 04, 22:07:34
 Oh, I just figured the system of pay to have them now or wait a long time later didn't (technically) make them a paysite. I also didn't see them in the booty. My bad.
...Or maybe I didn't think about it that much because their donation stuff don't look all that hot anyways :P. Like this living room, sitting room, random-room-with-a-chair-in-it set:
 (http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee308/SlickC33/livingroom004.jpg)
 That bean bag chair(?) is greatly pwned by buggybooz's:
 (http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee308/SlickC33/Sans-titre-4-2.jpg)
http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=219818
+ the fabulous recolors by Purple Paws
http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=252670


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Simsbaby on 2008 September 04, 23:57:30
The poor thing, someone left it out in the sun too long!  :P


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Feverish on 2008 September 05, 00:38:28
It actually looks like chewed gum someone spit out.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: kenmtl on 2008 September 05, 02:44:36
I think it looks like a big stone vagina.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Souvenirs on 2008 September 05, 03:00:22
That's the bizarre part, and why I forgot XM was a paysite in the first place.  All of their paysets are ugly furniture and clothes from 2005.  It's just weird: why have a paysite and not bother to sell anything people would want?  They could probably make a fortune off the hair.  Look at Rose and Peggy!

That set is gorgeous, Porkchopz.  Thanks for the link!

(For the record, the beanbag looks like some sort of dinosaur skull to me. ;))


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Yaardarm Monkey II on 2008 September 05, 03:46:45
I think it looks like a big stone vagina.


I'm glad someone else said it first   :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: fway on 2008 September 05, 17:13:37
Lulzy "destroyed" pay walls by MSbarrows:
(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/tmp/774/774758.jpg)


VS.

Several nicely done grungier walls by Pixelhate, he quite pwns. (photobucket was bitching at me when I was transloading the images)

http://sumomo.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=187516
http://sumomo.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=190337
http://sumomo.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=196553
http://sumomo.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=224755
http://sumomo.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=229326
http://sumomo.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=240927





Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Astonished lemons on 2008 September 07, 23:42:26
Alright, youve driven me to it.

I dont want this thread to die, so Ill post some comparrisons.

Medieval peasant clothing.

This from Sofal at TSR. Although not particularily eye bleach inducing, still very plain, pixelated, and nothing you'd want to PAY for. Heck, most people here could make a better, more detailed one on bodyshop.
(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/tmp/485/485587.jpg)
 (It IS a payfile)

Versus

These amazing works from All About Style

(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g179/zoeycat123/Other%20sims%20stuff/TN_FAmeddress9_AAS.jpg)(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g179/zoeycat123/Other%20sims%20stuff/TN_FAmeddres15_AAS.jpg)
(They look great in-game)

Also, this Medeival potter stand:

(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/209/209716.jpg)

 versus

(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g179/zoeycat123/Other%20sims%20stuff/k8-Trading_Places.jpg)
By Kate at Parsimonious.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2008 September 08, 00:31:10
They also have some good medieval stuff over at MTS 2.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: jilly on 2008 September 08, 10:34:56
Yay, a fountain with flowers in it!  :D

(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/tmp/501/501341.jpg)

It is pay!

Why not just get Macarossi's pretty planters?

(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m76/macarossi/All_subs.jpg)


http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=195044


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Anyerfillag on 2008 September 08, 14:03:16
Either TSR have blocked the images from showing up here or somethings wrong on my end as I see nothing but red crosses for all the TSR images *hopes the former* :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: HugeLunatic on 2008 September 08, 14:17:52
lol Nope TSR didn't block them , must be your browser.

I wonder if that pot is deco or flowers?  Or do you suppose they cloned the tri-pot and kept the animations for water?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dragonarts on 2008 September 08, 15:14:03
You realize that my downloads folder hates you, right? I don't go trolling for new sites very often, especially when they aren't in English, so I hadn't seen Helga's site before. Now she gets her own folder in my downloads. It iz yur faultz!

Just an observation here, too. Have any of the rest of you noticed that it isn't just that free stuff is much better made than paysite stuff, but that it is presented much more attractively? I hadn't really thought about that until I saw so many things side by side here in this thread. I goggled! (not googled.) *giggled*


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Ry on 2008 September 08, 16:35:44
*scratches head*

Goggled? Huh.
Learn a new word here everyday.  :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Anyerfillag on 2008 September 08, 18:56:35
Its my end - I knew my work had blocked TSR but it seems thats means anything posted outside (i.e. hotlinked images) is also blocked :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Astonished lemons on 2008 September 08, 21:10:38
*scratches head*

Goggled? Huh.
Learn a new word here everyday.  :D
\
Goggled. To goggle.

Goggle Noun: Under water glasses like things that keep water out of your eyes enabling sight.

Goggle verb: To stare, usually in shock. To have your eyes go wide and bug out of your head a bit.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 September 08, 22:10:42
You my dear friend have just increased my vocabulary!

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j61/miss_sabrina/congratulations0an8.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: ChaosInAMinor on 2008 September 09, 00:12:34
The old adage is true. You learn something new every day.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Astonished lemons on 2008 September 09, 04:55:35
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i308/TheGreenspanator/The_More_You_Know.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Feverish on 2008 September 09, 04:57:57
I like those commercials.  ;) I just now realized your avatar is animated. Sad I know.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 September 09, 17:45:17
YES! Loved those. I hear that little tune they played with it every time I think of those commercials. Best ever. Also, they remind me of George Clooney.  :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 September 09, 17:48:19
I like those commercials.  ;) I just now realized your avatar is animated. Sad I know.

I think it's great! I looked after you wrote that, and now I noticed.  That's because it's a slow animation, not an imitation of Peggy's site - thus I've read astonished lemon's posts without noticing.  So thanks AL and Feverish.  :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Astonished lemons on 2008 September 09, 18:04:24
I like those commercials.  ;) I just now realized your avatar is animated. Sad I know.

I think it's great! I looked after you wrote that, and now I noticed.  That's because it's a slow animation, not an imitation of Peggy's site - thus I've read astonished lemon's posts without noticing.  So thanks AL and Feverish.  :D
Its a seagull from finding nemo! See, it says "Mine" under it.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 September 09, 18:09:50
Aaw cute - and the only Aussies in a movie made about Australian animals in Australia.   ;D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2008 September 09, 19:55:14
Wasn't quite a bit of the movie done in the Disney studios based in Australia before they closed them? I remember reading that somewhere.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 September 09, 19:57:48
Wasn't quite a bit of the movie done in the Disney studios based in Australia before they closed them? I remember reading that somewhere.

Yep - plus live footage of our Sydney Harbour and Great Barrier Reef, which was then rendered into digital.  But it's most important that they have US actors - we Aussies are incomprehensible to USian ears.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Astonished lemons on 2008 September 09, 21:01:43
Wasn't quite a bit of the movie done in the Disney studios based in Australia before they closed them? I remember reading that somewhere.

Yep - plus live footage of our Sydney Harbour and Great Barrier Reef, which was then rendered into digital.  But it's most important that they have US actors - we Aussies are incomprehensible to USian ears.

I understood the seagulls pretty well!  :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: ValancySterling on 2008 September 10, 02:30:38
Wasn't quite a bit of the movie done in the Disney studios based in Australia before they closed them? I remember reading that somewhere.

Yep - plus live footage of our Sydney Harbour and Great Barrier Reef, which was then rendered into digital.  But it's most important that they have US actors - we Aussies are incomprehensible to USian ears.

I spent the summer there and didn't run into a single Aussie who spoke proper English  ;)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: ChaosInAMinor on 2008 September 10, 02:41:05
My high school was a sister school to some high school in Australia and their basketball team would come over in the winter every year (their summer) and play basketball with ours. I remember thinking they had about the sexiest accents ever. Then again, I'm enamored by just about any accent that isn't American. Especially Scottish (Paolo Nutini is yum).


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Feverish on 2008 September 10, 02:57:02
I love most accents as long as they're spoken in a deep sexy voice. One accent that has been bugging the hell outta of me is the one that Sarah Palin has. Maybe I'm biased because I'm not voting for her, but every time I hear her on tv, I cringe and turn the channel. Her voice drives me nuts.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: kenmtl on 2008 September 10, 03:46:43
That would be a right wing fundy rhetoric patois and ya it tends to grate on the nerves after a bit.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2008 September 10, 04:25:27
I've never really had a problem with the what people call the Aussie accent. Boston, yes. Aussie, no.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Yaardarm Monkey II on 2008 September 10, 04:37:07
I've never really had a problem with the what people call the Aussie accent. Boston, yes. Aussie, no.


 :D  omfg, Boston accents are simply unreal

I was outside Boston and asked at the hotel bar where Concord was; the local had no idea what I was talking about!

I pronounced it: con (like a criminal) - cord (like twine or rope)

He pronounced it:  cawn (pawn, but with a K or C and more emphasis on the aa) - caad (like cad, a despicable person...only more aa)

 :o


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Feverish on 2008 September 10, 04:44:26
Pok the cah.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 September 10, 05:02:43
I understood the seagulls pretty well!  :D

I think most USians would understand Aussies if they saw it on movies - but movie executives seem to think you're all dimwits. I think the slang would probably be the biggest problem - being rooted means something else entirely (and often throws USians).

I spent the summer there and didn't run into a single Aussie who spoke proper English  ;)

Speech is pretty casual here - plus there's the whole country/macho thing of trying to move your mouth as little as possible.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Feverish on 2008 September 10, 05:11:49
I was chatting with an Australian years back and I told him I was pissed. He thought I meant drunk. I meant angry.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2008 September 10, 06:09:39
One year, we had an Aussie girl and boy as exchange students at our high school and I got to be pretty good friends with them. They told me some of the slang and we compared how different it was. I'd ask Alan, "Did you get pissed over the weekend?" And he would answer, "Too right, and the host parents got pretty pissed at me for being pissed!" We had so much fun with that.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: deelink on 2008 September 10, 06:31:53
Everything here is pretty casual. So our English reflects that. I live and work in Sydney, where the charming Australian slang has given away to more international swearwords. But pissed still remains! To be pissed means to be totally shitfaced :P

I just mentioned that because it's been YEARS since I have heard anyone say "rooted" in that context. I still hear "G'day" and even I use the word "mate" sometimes. I dunno if it's sexy, but I know a South African friend of mine (with a sinfully sexy accent) who remarked that Aussies always tilt the last syllable so it sounds like we are asking questions, even though we are just commenting on the weather  :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 September 10, 07:37:50
I just mentioned that because it's been YEARS since I have heard anyone say "rooted" in that context.

It's foremost in my mind because we just got "Meet the Feebles" on DVD - that Australian crab.  :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: kenmtl on 2008 September 10, 13:47:32
My oldest brother actually lives in Aussieland, he moved there many years ago and his 2 kids now speak English with that accent. You'd never know we where from the same family, it's kinda fun actually. Mine is more Canadian sounding because that's what I learnt and my fathers is more British because that's what he learnt. I'm the youngest of 7 kids and we're quite spread out so it's all become very UNish. I think when you're accustomed to hearing heavy accents regularly you almost don't notice any more. You develop a habit of just listening for content and the delivery sort fades away. I least that's what I find.

I remember going to Scotland once when I was young and someone was trying to speak to me, I just stood there with a retarded grin on my face nodding thinking, wtf language is he talking. Now I really enjoy the Scottish accent a lot. Like a lot (sexytime). There's a great British film maker I like but I have to watch some of his films with subtitles otherwise it goes right over my head.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2008 September 10, 15:24:29
I rarely have a problem with any accents at least understanding them - what usually drives me nuts are when people try to sound american and can't - I don't mind the ones who do, but when they come short, I'd rather they just use their own native accents.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 September 10, 15:36:02
I don't think I've heard any bad American accents, although Coolington does an atrocious Scottish one.

I hate ads made in the US, and then dubbed over with Aussie voices.  We can tell ad companies - be less stingy and make another bloody ad.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2008 September 10, 15:49:42
I remember who I was trying to think of Nicole Kidman has a horrid american accent - maybe it was the region, but....it sounded okay then she'd hit a word and it would sound like something completely clashing.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Piratey on 2008 September 10, 16:42:58
After living in the UK for a few years now I've kinda developed a posh British accent, and lost my Australian one a little bit (although now everyone finds the mixture quite sexy back home 8)). People often ask me to do an Australian accent, it's weird though, as I can do many accents other than Australian. It's something I honestly don't know how to do; it was always something I just happened to do. Weird.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: cookiepirate on 2008 September 10, 18:52:25
Being from the south, slang and slang descriptive phrases are a big part of my speech.  I can't just say "It's hot outside" but something like "It's so hot you could fry an egg outside".  Not to mention all the gonna, fixin' to, and ya'll's.  Of course, when I want to make a point or comparision, I always start with "I tell you what".  Hubby, who learned British English, says the weirdest is when I say "Can I see fill in some object", when what I REALLY mean is "Pass me the...."  But he's used to my slang now, and even sounds southern himself (last visit to the states, they thought he WAS southern, and he got hit with the other southen tradition of "telling personal stuff to total strangers"), but I warned him about that one.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: mando on 2008 September 11, 01:09:31
I do have the weird habit of using "borrow" and "steal" when I'm speaking casually as replacements for "take" and "borrow" (i.e. saying "Can I borrow a bit of that?" when someone has food or drinks they're giving out, which is weird in that I have no intention of returning it and that no one would want it back if I did ;); and saying "Can I steal that?", when I just want to borrow something for a moment, e.g. a pen). I don't know if it's common slang because I don't notice if anyone else does it when speaking to me (plus, any time I say it around my family the general response is, "Well you're not stealing/borrowing anything..."). Maybe it's a west coast Canadianism? Does anyone else use it? (And we have three versions of "pissed" in common usage in Vancouver, we're so versatile :D)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: LadyDea on 2008 September 11, 02:09:59
I do that too, Mando. I don't really think about it when I do it, but I don't really hear other people use it either. "I can steal this for a moment?" I actually think I started using "steal" in that context after PotC and my pirate obsession began. I also use "aye" and occasionally "ahoy" too. XD

From Manitoba, if that means anything.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2008 September 11, 02:44:12
I do it and I'm in the southeast us.

Maybe its an age thing?  I'm 41...I mean, 36


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: FilthyPriest on 2008 September 11, 02:49:18
I do it and I'm in the southeast us.

Maybe its an age thing?  I'm 41...I mean, 36
Hey yall lets hav'a fen tam alright. :D I not that bad!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: mando on 2008 September 11, 03:09:19
I do it and I'm in the southeast us.

Maybe its an age thing?  I'm 41...I mean, 36

It appears to be a more worldwide expression than I thought (I'm a 30 ;D and I found it and my use of "borrow" listed on the Urban Dictionary; plus, SoggyFox, you are very far and a country away from me :D). Unfortunately, they don't have any etymology there and I'd love to know how it originated (I don't think it's with PotC, being as I am not a huge fan of those films (and yes, I feel your horror, peoples), and it seems like I've been using them that way for a damned long time).


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 September 11, 03:16:37
I use that steal and borrow thing too.

I also use "aye" and occasionally "ahoy" too. XD

You're a hella-pirate. :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2008 September 11, 03:56:14
It might be its something we picked up from some book years ago - a fair warning, I live here - I've lived here for over 30 years now - but my parents were from the northeast, I was born in W. Germany, and I've grown up on lots of non-US TV and literature.  So, I couldn't tell you most 'southernisms', even even alot of americanisms.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: kenmtl on 2008 September 11, 04:29:43
Ya right Mando, you just go ahead and  Blame Canada (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUb2XmwTCs8).


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: ChaosInAMinor on 2008 September 11, 04:30:41
I moved from the midwestern US to California recently and sometimes I lapse into my midwestern accent. It's a really slight version of what you hear in "Fargo". :P

Oh, Cala, it's probably not ad companies being stingy. It's the client. It's always the client. :P


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 September 11, 04:36:34
Oh, Cala, it's probably not ad companies being stingy. It's the client. It's always the client. :P

Whoops - I know it's Colgate being stingy - but some ad companies do a crap job of hiding it too.  :-*


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: ChaosInAMinor on 2008 September 11, 04:46:32
Haha, it's okay. I know how most people feel about advertising. It's not all as skeezy as it sounds, though.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: mando on 2008 September 11, 04:51:22
Ya right Mando, you just go ahead and  Blame Canada (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUb2XmwTCs8).

Well, I mean, who else am I going to blame?

As for the fake Australian voice ads, it reminds me of a weird trend on this end of the world (although we have poorly dubbed ads as well, generally ones that were filmed in French originally and then lamely dubbed into English, and I'm sure done only as a method to save cash). For some bizarre reason, I've noticed a rash of ads lately starring Australian actors; someone somewhere must have decided that the accent calms the viewer and puts them in the mood to lay out some cash :D.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: ChaosInAMinor on 2008 September 11, 04:58:22
Actually, depending where you're from, different accents do different things. In marketing research, it's often found that British account planners (they talk to people, do focus groups, get consumers to talk about what they actually want in a product, etc) do better in America and vice versa because the unfamiliar accent encourages people to stop and take more care to listen, so will understand the question better and answer it more thoroughly.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 September 11, 09:41:59
Haha, it's okay. I know how most people feel about advertising. It's not all as skeezy as it sounds, though.

Let me guess - you're an ad person.  I don't hate all ad people - just the dubbed over ads.  I've been enjoying the The Gruen Transfer (http://www.abc.net.au/tv/gruentransfer/) - a show about rating ads and making ads - most notably these funny ones here (http://www.abc.net.au/tv/gruentransfer/poll/vote/past.htm)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: ChaosInAMinor on 2008 September 11, 18:07:12
Was it that obvious? ;) I understand. I hate people who get away with badly done ads, too, but I understand why they're out there. I'm still a student and student work is allowed to be FAR more creative than some of the stuff out there, with a few exceptions (the Sony Bravia bouncy ball commercial is one of my favorites). When you get into an agency, so many people touch your ad. It gets passed around the entire office from creative directors to production artists, to the client, who always have something to add or subtract. When it gets back to you, it scarcely even resembles your idea. But I enjoy it. I mean, where else can I get paid an obscene amount of money to sit around the office in comfortable clothes and scribble ideas onto paper?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 September 11, 18:28:29
Was it that obvious? ;)

:D Yep.

I love all the funny Aussie beer ads.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Metatwaddle on 2008 September 11, 18:39:16
Here's a comparison of pigtails:

Part 1
Rose's pigtails have a weird-ass mesh where the hair hangs below the head and then goes back up to meet the elastic, which is resting on the model's shoulder. The pigtails are far too thin for the mountains of hair above them. Also, they don't even look like braids, because that was too haaaaard. Basically, this mesh sucks.
(http://www.rosesims2.net/contribute/donation%20images/Rosedonate_0092-big.jpg)

Compare with these beautiful new braids from Helga:
(http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/9841/032bigmd4.jpg)

Part 2
I have no idea wtf Peggy is doing here. No real hair does this when put in pigtails.
(http://www.peggyzone.com/html/images/Peggy_Fh080129_W020_red_b.jpg)
Compare with these lovely pigtails from Nouk, which look absolutely adorable on toddlers in-game:
(http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/2831/indexphpphpsessidbcfe47os9.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: jilly on 2008 September 13, 01:02:25
Time for the battle of the pirate ship lots  :D
Compare this TSR one with v1nd1care's free version 

(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/tmp/641/641459.jpg)

(http://thumbs2.modthesims2.com/images12/MTS2_329068_V1ND1CARE_EB1.jpg)


Edited to add: The FA says it can only be placed in a certain place in Twikki island, and you have to move a lot to put it there. FAIL


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dragonarts on 2008 September 13, 02:10:00
Here's a comparison of pigtails:

Part 1
Rose's pigtails have a weird-ass mesh



Ok, one of the reasons I love this thread is the really wonderful free stuff I see posted here, which I often must then go download. This particular hair is not good, but the part that is not strange looking pigtails is rather like a style I have been wishing I had. I could go to the booty, dl the rose hair and modify it myself. However, if someone knows where I could get a quality free hair of very similar style, I'd appreciate it.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: vindi on 2008 September 13, 05:22:22
Here's a comparison of pigtails:

Part 1
Rose's pigtails have a weird-ass mesh


Ok, one of the reasons I love this thread is the really wonderful free stuff I see posted here, which I often must then go download. This particular hair is not good, but the part that is not strange looking pigtails is rather like a style I have been wishing I had. I could go to the booty, dl the rose hair and modify it myself. However, if someone knows where I could get a quality free hair of very similar style, I'd appreciate it.

Dragonarts, some people are on dialup and loading the same image twice on a page is unnecessary. Just edit it out of your quote. Also, this is a comparison thread. There is a similar, free, and much better mesh *in* the post you quoted.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dragonarts on 2008 September 13, 05:31:13
No, I'm sorry, but perhaps you didn't understand what I was asking for. And maybe this thread isn't the best place to ask, but what I want isn't a pigtail mesh. What I want is a short swing with bangs, which is what the Rose hair is if you remove the "pigtails." The free hair is a lovely pigtail mesh, isn't it? I only asked here because the picture of the Rose hair is here.





edited for clarity


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: keirra on 2008 September 13, 07:32:09
Ask a pirate thread would be your best place to ask a question, not this thread.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Rissa on 2008 September 13, 09:01:58
If you want the rosehair with the fake-braids removed look at renegadesims.com. Of course this isn't technically a free hair, still an edited pay hair, but renegade inproved it a lot with reducing polycount since it's a mesh edit, not just an alpha edit...
If there's a similar free hair I'm sure it will be posted here...

And to make this post a useful one:

Updos with curls at the back
Peggy:
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h34/Carisssa_2006/Free_Show_Detail_Image1.jpg)
VS
Helga:
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h34/Carisssa_2006/030.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Owl on 2008 September 13, 14:10:28
I absolutely ADORE that Helga mesh! I would put it on all of my sims, but then they'd all look the same. Need MOAR Helga and Nouk!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: maryfairy on 2008 September 13, 14:18:08
Updos with curls at the back
Peggy
VS
Helga

Ugh, a couple of weeks ago I downloaded that Peggy hair. I went in game and it looked like there was pasta on my Sims heads. >> The Helga hair, on the other hand, has gooorgeous textures, and it doesn't have alien skull or icky icky gaps!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: vindi on 2008 September 13, 16:40:03
No, I'm sorry, but perhaps you didn't understand what I was asking for. And maybe this thread isn't the best place to ask, but what I want isn't a pigtail mesh. What I want is a short swing with bangs, which is what the Rose hair is if you remove the "pigtails." The free hair is a lovely pigtail mesh, isn't it? I only asked here because the picture of the Rose hair is here.

Ahh, I gotcha ;). My bad!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Astonished lemons on 2008 September 13, 18:46:08
Here's a comparison of pigtails:

Part 1
Rose's pigtails have a weird-ass mesh



Ok, one of the reasons I love this thread is the really wonderful free stuff I see posted here, which I often must then go download. This particular hair is not good, but the part that is not strange looking pigtails is rather like a style I have been wishing I had. I could go to the booty, dl the rose hair and modify it myself. However, if someone knows where I could get a quality free hair of very similar style, I'd appreciate it.

EDIT! It wasnt Rissa, it was dachshundsr4me .

its here: http://www.simscave.com/ferris/index.php?topic=4035.0


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dragonarts on 2008 September 14, 01:58:41
The Sim Cave link was broken, but it pointed me in the right direction. Renegadesims had it.

I tried to find a free version of this:
(http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/3136/katehudson61008oo8.th.jpg)
Kate Hudson dress, since simenapule (an Italian paysite) did such a horrible job on it:
 (http://www.simenapule.it/mambots/content/multithumb/thumbs/b.180.180.16777215.0..stories.Fashion.AsSeenOn.KateHudsonGreenBrownDresses.jpg)
but I got discouraged wading through all the websites. I tried googling Sims 2 free downloads, and got a hugeous list of paysites. Somehow that doesn't seem right.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: deelink on 2008 September 14, 02:12:40
In my own guarded opinion, there is not much you can do to improve that dress. It's simply ghastly, what the hell was Kate Hudson thinking?
She looks like she tried to wrap herself up in the Jamaican flag and totally failed.

Hehe >:P
j/j!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: pickles on 2008 September 14, 02:33:17
  First she would have had to find the Jamaican flag printed on a slip. That's quite shiny. And wrinkly. And I don't care for it, either.

If you don't have your heart set on that particular dress, try All About Style. (http://www.all-about-style.com/) She's done some lovely celebrity dress conversions, and she's free (don't limit yourself to just checking out the celebrity stuff, please! you'll be missing a lot if you do) .


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dragonarts on 2008 September 14, 03:02:58
Oooo! *huggles the purties* Thanks! I was surfing paysites hoping to find something to share here when I saw that Kate Hudson dress. I like Kate Hudson. Didn't exactly care for the dress either. I had hoped to find others that were better but I wasn't successful. There was one on MTS2, but it wasn't in any way like the pay one, so I didn't think it was a good comparison. You know that this thread is very good for my simmies, right? Though my downloads folder is groaning.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: keirra on 2008 September 14, 03:06:42
I have a girl crush on Kate Hudson. I just adore her. I really like her mother (Goldie Hawn) too.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: jilly on 2008 September 14, 05:38:06
This FAfug proudly pwned by Enayla!

FAfug
(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/453/453823.jpg)

Enayla:

(http://www.furiae.com/images2/pixiegems/4.jpg)

Oh yeah, the link to Enayla's is here: http://www.insimenator.net/showthread.php?t=91793


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Viking Marta on 2008 September 14, 06:05:53
Pixie Sapphire is preeettty....*dreamy-eyed*  Wierd fishman, not so much.


What about evi:

(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/485/485964.jpg)

vs fakepeeps7 @ MTS2?

(http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/4334/mts2fakepeeps7784851bacfa2.th.jpg) (http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mts2fakepeeps7784851bacfa2.jpg)(http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/4334/mts2fakepeeps7784851bacfa2.th.jpg) (http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mts2fakepeeps7784851bacfa2.jpg)

(Sorry for the small pictures)

But the texturing of the pants is sooo much better. And if you like maxis-style, it's just better done overall.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Darqstar on 2008 September 16, 13:29:19
Is it just me, or do the boys in the Evi pants all look like they pissed themselves and it's just starting to dry? 

Normally, I don't completely hate Evi's stuff.  It's not my favorite, but it isn't bad.  But that?  Yeah, that's bad. 


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Beth on 2008 September 16, 23:39:45
To me, the poor boys look like someone has briefly pulled their bodies to a little stretch so that their torsos are a bit higher and their legs look like stumps.

Must just be me mind, but yeah I see what you mean.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Darqstar on 2008 September 17, 16:25:00
To me, the poor boys look like someone has briefly pulled their bodies to a little stretch so that their torsos are a bit higher and their legs look like stumps.

Must just be me mind, but yeah I see what you mean.

I see what you mean as well.  But the first thing I noticed was the extra wrinkled crotch with the dark "stain" looking thing.  If it was just on one pair, I'd figure it might be the lighting, but on all pairs?  Yeah, it makes them look like candidates for the bedwetters club.   And, as if someone mashed their privates.  Poor kids.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Neishia on 2008 September 17, 18:35:57
Well first thing I noticed was the motion the kid  in the green was doing. What the fuck is that o.O he's even quirking a brow!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: LadyDea on 2008 September 17, 18:40:48
Well first thing I noticed was the motion the kid  in the green was doing. What the fuck is that o.O he's even quirking a brow!

"My crotch, let me show you it."


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Ry on 2008 September 17, 18:43:18
I have a girl crush on Kate Hudson. I just adore her. I really like her mother (Goldie Hawn) too.
Me too. She's hawt. Goldie's hawt, too, still. Hawt. That's fun to type.  :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: elpemmy on 2008 September 17, 19:02:16
Didn't notice that before you said Neishia... not a good look for kids. And wth is up with the wrinkles? In line with the pockets....?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Charity_Bonney on 2008 September 18, 20:52:43
This really is no comparison, but that is kind of the point. I admit that I am picking on Chaz because he is such an easy target.

This hair has to be one of the ugliest things ever. I almost picked something else, then I realized that it was uploaded last year. There is no excuse for this crap:

(http://i35.tinypic.com/jtxxcg.jpg)


VS.


The almighty Helga:

(http://i37.tinypic.com/vpcakk.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: crunk on 2008 September 18, 21:53:54
Is that hair? You know, it looks like they took a real picture of hair at a crap resolution, made it look even worse, did a job of removing background and face from the picture, and turned it into a hair for Sims.

I could do that in like, ten minutes. I could make money too!!!  ;D

Seriously, who would download this?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: ytessa on 2008 September 18, 22:12:53
5000 people have Payed for that.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2008 September 18, 22:14:12
People and polar bears on crack.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Jojoba on 2008 September 18, 22:56:34
5000 people have Payed for that.

5000 people have downloaded it. You can download it for free when its on rotation, and with kudos points.  ;) So likely a lot of that number have downloaded it for free, not paid.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Ash Redfern on 2008 September 18, 23:00:48
5000 people have downloaded it. You can download it for free when its on rotation, and with kudos points.  ;) So likely a lot of that number have downloaded it for free, not paid.
At least, we hope that is the case.  :P


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: redisenchanted on 2008 September 18, 23:40:32
5000 people have Payed for that.

5000 people have downloaded it. You can download it for free when its on rotation, and with kudos points.  ;) So likely a lot of that number have downloaded it for free, not paid.

Nope, they don't rotate FA stuff anymore. 5000 paying customers downloaded that horrid hair. I think it may be the worst hair ever, and that's saying a lot.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: LadyDea on 2008 September 19, 01:39:46
Helga's braids are indeed very nice, but every time I see that model I shudder. She's going to eat my soul.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Astonished lemons on 2008 September 19, 02:16:16
Helga's braids are indeed very nice, but every time I see that model I shudder. She's going to eat my soul.

Its true.

Her hairs are georgeous, but the models are certainly. . .robust, striking individuals.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: BTMoose on 2008 September 19, 02:21:44
Not to mention the fact that Rose's braids seem to be floating about three inches above the chest.

Helga's models are kind of scary, but I like them anyway. Yay for not having the same face as everyone else.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: crunk on 2008 September 19, 04:18:00
Helga's models are kind of scary, but I like them anyway. Yay for not having the same face as everyone else.

Tyra Banks says Helga's models are fierce. I say they are fiercely scary, but I use her big curly hair lately on nearly every female sim I make. Love Helga. Hate the models.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: BTMoose on 2008 September 19, 04:26:24
I prefer to see them as just another way that Helga kicks ass. They might make me laugh if I wasn't so intimidated by them.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Jojoba on 2008 September 19, 09:00:39
Am wondering if the likeness there was intentional of Helga's behalf. Either way, hers is considerably better as the braids actually fix into the main hair, not float about like lost lonely sausages.

5000 people have Payed for that.

5000 people have downloaded it. You can download it for free when its on rotation, and with kudos points.  ;) So likely a lot of that number have downloaded it for free, not paid.

Nope, they don't rotate FA stuff anymore. 5000 paying customers downloaded that horrid hair. I think it may be the worst hair ever, and that's saying a lot.

FAs can set items their to free, and usually set older ones to free often.  I meant 'rotation' in that way - bad use of wording, sorry Red. You are right that they do not rotate any more, but used to, so some of that number of downloads was from when it was free on rotation. Hope that explains what I meant better  :)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: pixelated on 2008 September 19, 16:31:38
This FAfug proudly pwned by Enayla!

FAfug
(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/453/453823.jpg)

Enayla:

http://www.furiae.com/images2/pixiegems/4.jpg (http://www.furiae.com/images2/pixiegems/4.jpg)

Oh yeah, the link to Enayla's is here: http://www.insimenator.net/showthread.php?t=91793

Clearly better, but since that TSR skin is very close to a (worse) copy of another skin that Enayla did, I think you want to link that, too. Pixie Serpent, here:
http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=193105 (http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=193105)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: jilly on 2008 September 19, 20:04:28
Clearly better, but since that TSR skin is very close to a (worse) copy of another skin that Enayla did, I think you want to link that, too. Pixie Serpent, here:
http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=193105 (http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=193105)

I had forgotten about Pixie Serpent...

Evi's ugly old outfits pwned by fakepeeps7's cute set:

(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/752/752500.jpg)
(http://thumbs2.modthesims2.com/img/2/8/5/8/2/8/MTS2_fakepeeps7_792382_ruffle07.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Jojoba on 2008 September 19, 20:23:19
(http://www.rosesims2.net/contribute/donation%20images/rosedonate_0058.JPG)

Rosesims hair, with flat textures and odd colours (purple binned a black, interesting). From memory its also not animated/animated very well

VS

A very lush Nouk hair! (http://www.noukiesims2.net/tiny/index.php?topic=133.0) Nice colours, nicely animated and low polys. Very nom.
(http://i35.tinypic.com/2ltkg83.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: WestIndies on 2008 September 20, 10:11:41
Hello I am new here, I was laughing by reading the topic and here is my contribution...

Just so everyone knows.... Helga Sims Updated with an awesome hair today!

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j61/miss_sabrina/sims2/ScreenShot011-1.jpg)
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j61/miss_sabrina/sims2/ScreenShot012-1.jpg)
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j61/miss_sabrina/sims2/ScreenShot010-1.jpg)

Hega Vs Peggy

(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff43/mimi250sims2_album/special_gift_2007_may.jpg)

I absolutely hate this one from peggyzone


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Anouk on 2008 September 20, 10:48:49
Yes helga's is alot cuter and nicelier! That and peggy won't show the sides or back.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Feverish on 2008 September 20, 14:44:11
Ya know, when I see Helga's previews of her hair on her site, I'm not really fond of them so I don't download them. But when I see her hair in someone else's game pics, they look awesome. Then I go download that particular hair.  All the hairs I have downloaded from her are because I've seen them look really good in someone's games. They look better other people's game pis than in her previews.
Now I'm off to download that lovely hair ^^.  Thanks for the pic.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 September 20, 16:41:55
Lele!  ;D

And I am with you Feverish. I have a separate folder for my "experimental" hairs, until they pass my judgment test. I hate how people can't show sides/the back of a hair. To me it makes all the world of a difference. Like for instance, I've always been a Tyra Banks fan. So when I saw this

http://www.raonsims.com/item/detail.php?num=157&cat1=1&page=5&key=

by Roan I was excited, and got it from the booty of course. But the back looks like shit. It looks like Roan ran out of ideas and just ended the back. No waves or curls like the rest of the hair. Hell the back wasn't even filled in all the way. Terrible hair.

I'm the same way with shoes in a picture. I can't tell you how many times I've downloaded an outfit with shorts, to find out it had hooker heels.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 September 20, 16:59:56
Another comparison -

Why paysite owners use reflective floors to distract you from content with awkward seams:
(http://habitat43.com/components/com_remository_files/file_image_32/img_32_07.jpg)

or absolutely awesome gorgeous free crib of beautifulness

(http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/3048/rossimsdq1.jpg)

Mah fellow download whores may get the awesomeness nursery here: http://www.ros-sims.com/bedroom200.php (http://www.ros-sims.com/bedroom200.php)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: meowbark on 2008 September 20, 17:17:40
(http://www.rosesims2.net/contribute/donation%20images/Rosedonate_0065.jpgvs[IMG]http://i38.tinypic.com/mbtime.jpg)

Rose's hair looks like some of those streamers you find on those bikes for little girls.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: LadyDea on 2008 September 20, 17:31:55
I'm really not a fan of the reflective floors. I downloaded them, placed them, growled at how much they slowed my game down, and went through the painstaking process of removing them.

I also hate how some people use them like crazy. D:


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Astonished lemons on 2008 September 20, 17:45:31
I'm really not a fan of the reflective floors. I downloaded them, placed them, growled at how much they slowed my game down, and went through the painstaking process of removing them.

I also hate how some people use them like crazy. D:
At least your computer can hande them. Mine show up as large, flashing, blue, rug-like things.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Ry on 2008 September 20, 17:59:49
Mine, too, Lemon!  :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 September 20, 19:46:58
Did you guys try turning 'Reflections' on? That might help. But it doesn't really matter, cause once you get them in-game and use them, you'll probably just delete them anyway!  ;)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 September 20, 19:52:33
I had them back when they were free available from Simbellas - I thought they were a bit of a waste of time - seeing up sims skirts and trying to build rooms they fitted into.  And the painstaking placement was not my thing.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Anyerfillag on 2008 September 20, 21:13:55
I love Fakepeeps creations, I really do, but she needs to rethink some of those textures :o Some are gorgeous, some look like patchwork or curtains - how can she do well on others and not on the rest ???


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: elpemmy on 2008 September 20, 21:38:14
I have to agree with you there, Anyerfillag.
I'm a big fan of CatOfEvilGenius though.
Em


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: WestIndies on 2008 September 20, 21:47:37
two other ugly sets, these ones from Ulkrhsn at TSR :-\

(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff43/mimi250sims2_album/670674.jpg)

(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff43/mimi250sims2_album/622900.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: deelink on 2008 September 20, 23:00:23
Yo WIndies, Where is the awesome Free alternative?

Can't ye see the title of this thread? If you wanted to bitch about it's ugliness, there is a thread for that yanno.

:P


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: autumnrose on 2008 September 21, 01:28:50
I found 2 free alternatives for the first one WIndies posted:

(http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo116/autumnrose_ftw/helga013.jpg)and(http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo116/autumnrose_ftw/helga027.jpg)



Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: WestIndies on 2008 September 21, 11:49:20
Sorry and Thanks Autumnrose  ;)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: jilly on 2008 September 21, 14:11:55
I found 2 free alternatives for the first one WIndies posted:


The one on the left is purrrrrty..... *stares dreamy eyed then runs to Helga*

This ChazCrap is called valentine's day hair... Nouk has an awesome Valentine's Hair...
(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/tmp/118/118905.jpg)


(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q186/jilly4/noukvalentines.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: pickles on 2008 September 21, 15:44:10
Hotlinking is baaad, mmmkay?  Well when you're not linking to TSR anyways  :P
Please put the Nouk picture into a photobucket or what have you and re-link from there!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Souvenirs on 2008 September 21, 17:52:38
That Chaz hair is terrible.  That would have looked horrible in 2005...TS1, even. 

Also: MTS2's search engine pwns TSR's shitty one.  There was something I was going to post, but I gave up digging through all that crap.  I searched on "capris," and half the stuff that showed up didn't even have anything to do with capris.   ???


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dragonarts on 2008 September 22, 01:06:26
I went to Helga's site to download that pretty long hair, and I found a new one there that I absolutely love! Just to compare, I went to raonsims, to see if she had anything similar so we could point and laugh, and found this:

(http://www.raonsims.com/item/item_img/big(104).jpg)

Not too bad in the pictures if you don't mind plastic looking textures and strange shades. I don't know how it looks in the game, cuz I don't intend to download it and try it out.

The closest one I saw at Rosesims, after a quick scroll, was this donation hair:
(http://www.rosesims2.net/contribute/donation%20images/Rosedonate_0096-big.jpg)
I hate the back of her hair. What, is she wearing an egg under her hair?

This is Helga's hair. Isn't it lovely? :
(http://fc87.deviantart.com/fs36/f/2008/265/e/5/e5ca85ba773e6caa8371e03df325cfc1.jpg)
I have been wanting something rather like this. I went "squee" when I saw it, and hit the download button at once.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: deelink on 2008 September 22, 03:08:23
*sigh* Once again my Hair download folder is going to have to be purged. You people are cruel, you know that?  :P


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dragonarts on 2008 September 22, 04:14:33
Just a comment to say that Helga's hair is as lovely ingame as in the pictures. This is my pixie Sim, Hallae, playing chess with a certain well known sim. Who would have guessed that he'd cheat? Worse, she fell for it every time.

(http://fc69.deviantart.com/fs37/f/2008/265/9/9/Hallina_and_JM_the_Pirate_5_by_dragonarts.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Feverish on 2008 September 22, 04:43:19
I wasn't going to download that hair. Now that I see how pretty it is in your game, I certainly will. Thanks for the pic.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Astonished lemons on 2008 September 22, 07:24:41
I wasn't going to download that hair. Now that I see how pretty it is in your game, I certainly will. Thanks for the pic.

Same.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: elpemmy on 2008 September 22, 14:58:29
Same. I'm not always a big fan of short hair for that girls (there's so few decent ones out there) but now I HAVE to get it.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2008 September 22, 17:06:38
I just got it and with how bunged up our connection is due to the weird weather, it was a pain. It ought to be worth it, though!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Astonished lemons on 2008 September 22, 20:27:42
I had never downloaded a Helga hair before untill that pic. Now ive gotten about five.

I had always thought the looked 'Nice' in the previews, but in game they are FABULOUS!

Im a happy camper.

 :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dragonarts on 2008 September 22, 21:15:53
I hadn't known of Helga's hair until this thread. Now my simmies have lots more choices than just Nouk's hair. I'm still short of nice masculine hair for the guys. I'm working on learning to do my own, but it's hard to do well. And if it isn't done well, I don't use it, even if I made it myself.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: lexilove on 2008 September 23, 00:41:02
Sweet! My first post.
I just read this whole post...and I find it highly amusing how paysite owners can hurl out that crap and expect people to pay for it!

I hadn't known of Helga's hair until this thread. Now my simmies have lots more choices than just Nouk's hair. I'm still short of nice masculine hair for the guys.

I agree, Dragonarts, I cannot find many good, masculine male hairs for my simmies. I'm friends with so many guys, and none of them have that greasy, long hair with bangs. Please, creators, let's leave the GOOD emo stuff to the people at GoS. =)

Now, for my comparison: Peggy vs Sizz @ MTS2

Hahaha, that's funny, Peggy. What the eff is this???

(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r242/lex91793/peggyhair.jpg)



and since I couldn't find anything that would quite match (thank God!):

Here's Sizz's Hanui hair. It's a bit big and it could go for a retexturing, but it's good and I think it fits the comparison.

(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r242/lex91793/Sizzhair2.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 September 23, 00:55:26
Here's Sizz's Hanui hair. It's a bit big and it could go for a retexturing, but it's good and I think it fits the comparison.

I like the hair and have it in game, but I also have edits by Selzi that I think are freakin sweet, too. They are here: http://www.meilow.de/selzisims/sizz-hanui-hair-alpha-edits-recolors/ (http://www.meilow.de/selzisims/sizz-hanui-hair-alpha-edits-recolors/)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: lexilove on 2008 September 23, 00:59:25
I like the hair and have it in game, but I also have edits by Selzi that I think are freakin sweet, too. They are here: http://www.meilow.de/selzisims/sizz-hanui-hair-alpha-edits-recolors/ (http://www.meilow.de/selzisims/sizz-hanui-hair-alpha-edits-recolors/)

Ooooh! My hair downloads folder is gonna asplode!! Thanks for the great link, dusdee.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 September 23, 01:07:04
Sure!  ;) You should check out her Face Templates. I use the defuglified Maxis ones, I absolutely love them. They're at Selzi's Site (http://www.meilow.de/selzisims/defuglified-maxis-faces-cas-face-replacement-set/) or at MTS2 (http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=250376), if you're not proficient in... German? I think it's German.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: lexilove on 2008 September 23, 01:10:10
Ahh cool. You guys all seem really helpful here. :)
And no, I'm not proficient in German lol. I speak English and some Spanish. ;)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 September 23, 03:15:27
Hmmm maybe someone could take the Helga hair and make it for men!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Markus on 2008 September 23, 04:55:19
That Peggy hair reminds me of Big Bird. :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2008 September 23, 13:33:03
I keep meaning to ask Nouk if its okay if I use her hair textures for the maxis male hair.  I just.....some of the styles are okay, but the textures are awful.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: elpemmy on 2008 September 23, 19:26:29
I haz a comparison:
A very lovely house from simcreations.net (found this site a couple days ago and FELL IN LOVE WITH IT!)
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj274/elpemmy/20.jpg)

And a house by... *coughelpemmycough* at T$R
Before I knew better, obviously. And before I learned that that is one hell of an ugly house :P
(http://isc.ibibi.com/images/tmp/633/633714.jpg)

Heh.... I'm rubbish :P


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2008 September 23, 19:28:54
Actually, your house could be really easy made to look spiffy - just add some landscaping and some variety to the roof.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: jilly on 2008 September 23, 20:42:06
Actually, your house could be really easy made to look spiffy - just add some landscaping and some variety to the roof.


Also nicer doors/windows.


Simaddict99's medieval kitchen pwned by tarox's?
(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/tmp/210/210683.jpg)

Tarox:

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q186/jilly4/TAROX.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 September 24, 04:10:39
I haz a comparison:
A very lovely house from simcreations.net (found this site a couple days ago and FELL IN LOVE WITH IT!)
*snip*

And a house by... *coughelpemmycough* at T$R
Before I knew better, obviously. And before I learned that that is one hell of an ugly house :P
*snip*]

Heh.... I'm rubbish :P


Your house wasn't bad. Not something I would download. Different wallpaper, fancier doors and windows, (is that a flashing blue window I spot there?), landscaping,evened roof (I don't know why but uneven roofs irk me) and fix the slope in the back would have made it adorable :)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: deelink on 2008 September 24, 04:53:31
The Medieval set is a perfect example of FREE= AWESOME, PAY = PHAIlL.
The minute I get home I am so downloading it.



Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: justso on 2008 September 24, 08:15:39
As a fairly new member of the sims community i really understand how 5000 people would buy a chaz hair.  Some of the uploads on certain free sites were adverts for paysites. Download the hair, click the link to the mesh oh oh pay mesh.  i would have been tempted if I had a paypal account.  I totally bought into even the free things weren't totally free and maybe it was only the exchange that did really free.  i walked into a debate on pay/free. found this thread and the hair I was tempted to download was there along with helga's. i would have been part of the running total on chaz hair.  Sometimes it isn't stupidity that makes you pay it is lack of experience and naivety.
 


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 September 24, 08:25:56
Sometimes it isn't stupidity that makes you pay it is lack of experience and naivety.

I totally agree with you. I was an inch away from finding some way to pay for Sussis' stuff when I found the booty talked about at MATY (I found the phorum first and didn't ask where the booty was - found that about a week later).  If you're not involved in the forum side of it, it's almost impossible to come across the link to the booty - and even though it showed up in google under searches, no one clicks on a link called /booty/peggysims....blah because it just looks like those links always thrown up by google that lead to ad sites.

It's a good thing that site owners are putting up links to the booty - that will be one of the ways downloaders find it - but sometimes it's not so obvious.  If they are snared by TSR first, the odds go down considerably.

It is those who are least involved in the community that will be paying, not those who are all over forums.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Millie on 2008 September 24, 10:36:58
In total agreement.

I never joined forums until recently. Consequently, I had lots of pay stuff. Well over, a couple of hundred pounds sterling, pay stuff.

Sites I 'donated' to? Sim chic (sub) Well dressed sim (sub) Simsconnection (sub) Smeggyzone (sub) TSR (sub), and Reflexsims, Rose, Caravan sims, Lliana, Glamourous lounge, 8ds, 4esf, plus a few others I can't recall the names of.

I found the booty via DL mulsows I think....read up on the purpose of the site, and why it was in existance, then proceeded to call myself all kinds of stupid, for not reading the EULA in the first place. I honestly believed, that these artists deserved paying for their work.
I only found Mulsows by accident....googling for complete sims, or something like that.
The rest, as they say, is history.
Do I have a grudge? Hell yeah  :D
Whats more, since then, I have found MUCH better stuff, all for free. It's kind of annoying.

And, just to illustrate my point, as I am a kitchen whore

Reflexsims Deseo.
The counters don't mesh at the corners, the textures look weird in game - Reflex stuff is photoshopped to all hell before putting up, I'm sure, and very little choice of what you can do with it. Also, if I recall correctly, it's not animated either so your sims don't open cupboard doors....unlike, my comparison set.
(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m135/Rhianwen_2006/d135.jpg)
(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m135/Rhianwen_2006/d136.jpg)
And this from Buggybooz. I am a Buggybooz fangurl LOL. I heart buggybooz.

(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m135/Rhianwen_2006/bonusbits.jpg)

It really DOES look this good in game. Gorgeous textures, which look great even on my graphics card, which tends to show up even minute faults. Lots of options to change the look of the kitchen. I love this kitchen. There is a dining table/chairs/deco, which match this set too.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Lord Darcy on 2008 September 24, 11:07:41
It should also be noted that Sims fandom is an anomaly in the whole video game scene. If you've been around video game scene before you've ever encountered Sims, you would have realized that charging for custom game contents is a totally abhorrent, unthinkable thing in any other video game fandoms except for Sims. However, Sims is often the first (and often the only) video game many players encounter, thus they accept the vile paysite policy as the norm.

I played several excellent custom scenarios for NWN. Some of them are just amazing, with rich details and intricate storylines, you can only wonder how much love the creator must have poured into creating them. And did they charge even a penny for their contents? Hell no. Free sharing of custom game contents is the esprit de corps in video game fandom, and I detest vehemently those greedy bastards who corrupted it in Sims community for good.


Back to pwnage. The KitchenBasic set is simply gorgeous. One of the best Kitchen sets in the entire Sims community, free or pay. Buggybooz even updated the fridge to be compatible with all EPs.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 September 24, 11:15:26
I found the booty via DL mulsows I think....read up on the purpose of the site, and why it was in existance, then proceeded to call myself all kinds of stupid, for not reading the EULA in the first place.

I think few people read the EULA - I didn't read it until I got Pets, and that's when I got outraged about paysites.  But I wouldn't have an issue - I have to tell my class of *half* law students to read the research disclaimer (we're researching teaching methods) before they sign it. It's not unusual to just sign and not think.

The counters don't mesh at the corners, the textures look weird in game - Reflex stuff is photoshopped to all hell before putting up, I'm sure, and very little choice of what you can do with it.

I think someone should do the whole "preview" vs. in game to show the photoshopping bullcrap to show how they con people to buy. I would volunteer, but I'd be starting from the point where I have no clue which is and which isn't.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Millie on 2008 September 24, 11:33:39
Ok Cala. I have very little custom content in my game at the moment, so I will volunteer. Hub is on nights at the moment, and it will give me something to do  ;)

I think it deserves a thread of its own though, this one. Another prime candidate for this is Vitasims stuff. Besides the fact that it's ridiculously high poly, many of the items (as with Reflex) need cheats to place them so they don't bleed through walls and stuff.

Payfug in all it's glory!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 September 24, 11:44:00
Definately new thread.  :-* And I'm sure if you get it started, someone else will show their examples.  ;D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: jilly on 2008 September 24, 12:26:08
Ok Cala. I have very little custom content in my game at the moment, so I will volunteer. Hub is on nights at the moment, and it will give me something to do  ;)

I think it deserves a thread of its own though, this one. Another prime candidate for this is Vitasims stuff. Besides the fact that it's ridiculously high poly, many of the items (as with Reflex) need cheats to place them so they don't bleed through walls and stuff.

Payfug in all it's glory!


I like the style of Vita's stuff, but the actual furniture is trash....


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: elpemmy on 2008 September 24, 15:29:10
I love BuggyBooz furniture too! Tis awesome :D

I have another comparison:
This "Dance" Outfit, from T$R
(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/778/778636.jpg)

And this gorgeous Ballerina outfit from BeutelRatti (here (http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=275895) in case you hadn't seen it already :P
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj274/elpemmy/MTS2_Beutelratti_725543_MTS2_PrimaB.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Millie on 2008 September 24, 16:00:12
That is nicely done. It looks a little, um, uncomfortable around the butt area though  :D

I know from experience that those stockings on the first one just wouldn't stay up though.....and they'd leave marks on your legs!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: liegenschonheit on 2008 September 24, 17:46:40
I keep meaning to ask Nouk if its okay if I use her hair textures for the maxis male hair.  I just.....some of the styles are okay, but the textures are awful.

Nouk has an awesome TOS:
Quote
You can upload my texture files with your creations, as long as you credit me and link back. 100% free sites only.
You can edit and re-use (parts of) my textures and recolor them, as long as you credit me and link back. 100% free sites only.

That's why so many people have been going nuts and putting her lovely textures on just about everything under the sun.


Quote from: Lord Darcy
I played several excellent custom scenarios for NWN. Some of them are just amazing, with rich details and intricate storylines, you can only wonder how much love the creator must have poured into creating them. And did they charge even a penny for their contents? Hell no. Free sharing of custom game contents is the esprit de corps in video game fandom, and I detest vehemently those greedy bastards who corrupted it in Sims community for good.

I used to love the NWN mod community! I did a few retextures and put together a few custom maps and things, but nothing like what some people could do. I think because a lot of people who play the sims aren't big gamers or modders outside this community, they don't realize how much time and effort other communities put into making fantastic game mods, and all of them for free.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dragonarts on 2008 September 24, 18:08:43
You know, that ugly TSR dance outfit could be turned into a really cute exercise set with a little mesh work and some texture details. The sleeves look painted on but it isn't that hard to find a T-shirt top for sleeves, and the bottoms could be turned into cute little shorts. It might need a T-shirt hem mesh too. There'd have to be a few other adjustments, like shadows at the hems. I can so see it though. (and yes, I love fushia.  :P )


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: elpemmy on 2008 September 24, 18:55:16
Heh... I didn't see the recolour till after i posted, but that was definitely the better of the two. It was.. puke green and an orangey pink, i think?
You're right, it probably could look better with a whole load of adjustments.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: neriana on 2008 September 24, 19:52:01
Quote from: Lord Darcy
I played several excellent custom scenarios for NWN. Some of them are just amazing, with rich details and intricate storylines, you can only wonder how much love the creator must have poured into creating them. And did they charge even a penny for their contents? Hell no. Free sharing of custom game contents is the esprit de corps in video game fandom, and I detest vehemently those greedy bastards who corrupted it in Sims community for good.

I used to love the NWN mod community! I did a few retextures and put together a few custom maps and things, but nothing like what some people could do. I think because a lot of people who play the sims aren't big gamers or modders outside this community, they don't realize how much time and effort other communities put into making fantastic game mods, and all of them for free.


Many of us have been screaming about this from the rooftops since Day 1. It doesn't seem to have done any good. People who are pro-paysite will just not engage with the fact that people spend years creating complex, high-quality mods for other games and would never dream of charging. Paysite whores just skim right over that fact and screech about how they spent time, effort, blood and tears on that Sim lipstick and should be paid for it.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: oolongteadrinker on 2008 September 24, 21:31:04
You know, that ugly TSR dance outfit could be turned into a really cute exercise set with a little mesh work and some texture details. The sleeves look painted on but it isn't that hard to find a T-shirt top for sleeves, and the bottoms could be turned into cute little shorts. It might need a T-shirt hem mesh too. There'd have to be a few other adjustments, like shadows at the hems. I can so see it though. (and yes, I love fushia.  :P )

You just described almost a complete overhaul. If something needs a complete overhaul to look good--- well,
I'd like to see that, actually. If you do it, could you post the results?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2008 September 24, 22:25:50
You know, there's a real good clue for people that just come into the community that they shouldn't pay for custom content. It's that little disclaimer on the page that says they are in no way, shape or form affiliated with EA Games. No affiliation means they're not entitled to profit because the company doesn't recognize them. If they were licensed then they could have monies, but they isn't so piss on them.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: jilly on 2008 September 24, 22:44:09
Nouk
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q186/jilly4/MTS2_Nouk_788404_darkrecolorsand-1.jpg)

vs

(http://isc.ibibi.com/images/scaled/w-250h-202-135445.jpg)


 ;)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: oolongteadrinker on 2008 September 24, 22:52:43
this thread is just about the most reliable online comedy I've encountered in ages.

What is that "Celebration" hair celebrating, exactly? Weird, sandpaper textured hair and awkward shapes? Bring out the bubbly!
What creeps me out is the weird, perfectly circular highlight on the hair that makes it look like the "power" symbol on a tv remote or an eyeless pac-man

The short hair is GORGEOUS. If I had the right shaped head, I'd totally get that cut.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: EmilyTwitch on 2008 September 24, 23:40:17
What is that "Celebration" hair celebrating, exactly? Weird, sandpaper textured hair and awkward shapes? Bring out the bubbly!

Maybe they helped themselves to the bubbly BEFORE the party, and that's why that hair looks so awful.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: oolongteadrinker on 2008 September 24, 23:44:55
Maybe they helped themselves to the bubbly BEFORE the party, and that's why that hair looks so awful.
That would explain a lot.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: deelink on 2008 September 25, 01:08:10
(and yes, I love fushia.  :P )

Wasn't war on fushia declared? Did you miss that meeting!??!?! hehe j/k


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dragonarts on 2008 September 25, 01:35:10
*pout* If there is a war on fuchsia can I haz a ceasefire called? I LIKE fuchsia. Although I don't find much for sims in fuchsia that looks decent.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: oolongteadrinker on 2008 September 25, 02:24:37
*pout* If there is a war on fuchsia can I haz a ceasefire called? I LIKE fuchsia. Although I don't find much for sims in fuchsia that looks decent.
Only in the cases where it's an actual fuchsia plant. Probably one made by boog. I imagine those would be safe.

Now I wanna see if something like that exists.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Feverish on 2008 September 25, 02:33:13
Jilly you have the worst avatar I have ever seen in my entire life.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paleoanth on 2008 September 25, 02:36:13
I just ad-blocked it.  Go Firefox!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Feverish on 2008 September 25, 02:38:52
I did too. It made me squint. I'm quite sure it could give someone seizures, and I'm not joking. Yikes.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: keirra on 2008 September 25, 02:44:29
I did too. It made me squint. I'm quite sure it could give someone seizures, and I'm not joking. Yikes.

I agree. FF rocks. Why would someone even want that avatar? Yuck.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 September 25, 02:48:23
Another comparison:
Black Garden's craptastical mummy - possibly based on the sims 2 store mesh, but it's not up for download, so I can't tell:

(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/tmp/781/781018.jpg)

vs. WIN! from MTS2
(http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/466/mummype3.jpg)

http://nene.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=208675 (http://nene.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=208675)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2008 September 25, 03:19:36
While it is loud and annoying, it is also mesmerizing. I think I'll show it to the hubby tomorrow so he'll shut up and watch the shiny after he's done at the dentist.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Rissa on 2008 September 25, 17:11:23
It should also be noted that Sims fandom is an anomaly in the whole video game scene. If you've been around video game scene before you've ever encountered Sims, you would have realized that charging for custom game contents is a totally abhorrent, unthinkable thing in any other video game fandoms except for Sims. However, Sims is often the first (and often the only) video game many players encounter, thus they accept the vile paysite policy as the norm.

I played several excellent custom scenarios for NWN. Some of them are just amazing, with rich details and intricate storylines, you can only wonder how much love the creator must have poured into creating them. And did they charge even a penny for their contents? Hell no. Free sharing of custom game contents is the esprit de corps in video game fandom, and I detest vehemently those greedy bastards who corrupted it in Sims community for good

Just on a sidenote here: My brother in law and some of his friends as well as my boyfriend are computer scientists and have been involved in computer games for years, maybe even in modding one game or the other.

Now my boyfriend knows about the Sims CC issue since I registered at SFV first which was nearly 3 years ago.

On my sister's wedding last year some of my boyfriend's and brother in law's collegues were invited as well. Now there was one computer scientist there whom I already knew since I was a child. I asked for some advise concerning an own Sims-CC-site, and the first thing I was asked was how much I'd charge!! Some others surrounding us were interested as well, so I had a nice audience while explaining why it's wrong to charge for Sims CC. You should have seen their faces when I explained them how big the Sims community is (they'd never have imagined that many community members) or when I told them how much some sites charge per set or month (they could multiplicate that themselves to find out how much money people like Marcella or Peggy make)...

I still don't think that some of them understood by now what it's all about or how wrong it is, even if it's just "normal" for other games not to charge.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: jilly on 2008 September 25, 20:00:28
Jilly you have the worst avatar I have ever seen in my entire life.

It drives people crazy which is why I love it.  :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: lexilove on 2008 September 25, 20:55:17
LOL Jilly, I think your avatar is pretty awesome!

I was telling my friend about paysites today and she just couldn't understand why paysites are so wrong.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2008 September 25, 21:36:36
Sorry, I -had- to block it - it was making me want to lose my lunch - physical reaction, not that I think its ugly or anything.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Astonished lemons on 2008 September 25, 22:44:13
Hehe, Jilly that avi is cool. I can stop staring at it. . . its like a lava lamp.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2008 September 26, 00:42:10
Thing is, if your avi makes people physically ill, they won't read your posts at all and will just keep scrolling. I like your avi, in small doses.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: keirra on 2008 September 26, 01:29:37
Jilly you have the worst avatar I have ever seen in my entire life.

It drives people crazy which is why I love it.  :D

If it wasn't for FF adblock I would follow all your posts with "You suck. Go away."

Why would you want to "drive people crazy?". That's so immature.  ::)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Lilyroseisapirate on 2008 September 26, 02:32:33
I don't really understand why we need to police people for the things they have here. Adblock is good, adblock is enough. And Keirra, I am SURE she was being serious when she said she wanted to drive people crazy  ::)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2008 September 26, 02:41:01
is it just me or do we need another troll to come in for us to beat on?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Lilyroseisapirate on 2008 September 26, 02:42:57
BEAT DOWN MOTHERF**KER, lol. Paden, tis not Sunday yet. They always come out on Sunday for some reason, no fail.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2008 September 26, 02:58:13
Hmmmm, maybe we're just storing up some hostility for when they do come out, then.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 September 26, 03:27:33
Not to re-rail the topic or anything, but I was browsing various sites when I saw this crap:

Amanda Bynes dress by SimChic
(http://www.simchic.com/i/Image/Catalog/3593_amandabynes.jpg)

and it reminded me of the same dress by done by JustSims2 (which I can't seem to reach at the moment) and of
Amanda Bynes dress by All About Style (http://www.all-about-style.com/themes_celebrityfashion3.html)
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f114/dusdeedawn/TN_FAsagaward5_AAS.jpg)

Note the waist on the one by SimChic. Anorexic much? Obviously, this is not the type of dress that requires a corset. Curious.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: crunk on 2008 September 26, 03:59:56
The tiny waistline mesh is becoming a huge pet peeve of mine. I downloaded some teen outfits recently and realized that the waistline so Barbie that it made the girls look like they were going to snap in half. Poor sims!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2008 September 26, 04:44:03
Re-railed! Yeah, those waist lines drive me up the wall, it's like they expect women not to have bones or something. Idiots.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: oolongteadrinker on 2008 September 26, 20:36:59
Not to re-rail the topic or anything, but I was browsing various sites when I saw this crap:

Amanda Bynes dress by SimChic
Note the waist on the one by SimChic. Anorexic much? Obviously, this is not the type of dress that requires a corset. Curious.

The skirt in the first one is a mess. But the second skirt is so.... LUSH!

must have!

Is it weird that I only go gaga over clothes in the sims world?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Alexia on 2008 September 26, 20:40:08
Could you please refrain from quoting pictures from the same page. It takes forever for the page to load.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2008 September 26, 20:41:28
Well, son of a bitch, I get to write a whole new post. Don't that suck rotten eggs through a goddamn stirring straw?? Ok, on case some folks haven't picked up on it yet, it's not a good or approved thing to quote a post that has images in it without snipping said image tags. It's a real bitch for people on dial-up connections to have to load, and yes, there are still people on dial-up. It's also a pain in the ass for others as well because they see the said image load how many damn times per page? Please, take that into consideration if you want people to actually read your post and not piss and moan that. "for fuck's sake, cut out the damn image, you asshole!" Which we have actually said to repeat and constant offenders that do this, not to you specifically.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Chinchillagrl on 2008 September 26, 22:49:40
Whoo! This thread is full of win.
I've been away from simming for a while so it is great seeing all these beautiful free goodies for my game.

Bows down to Noukie!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2008 September 26, 23:06:38
Glad to see you again, and  your little darling in the avi is priceless!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Erhama on 2008 September 29, 02:23:10
Look at this piece of payshit for sale at Blacky's

(http://www.blackypanther.de/download/speedy/08_3/Updates/VIP29092008.jpg)
OMG, that is all?

A non-usable cooler, a badly textured umbrella and an eye-burning recliner?! You have got to be kidding me.

So then I went to look for something which could beat it easily, and ta da :D

(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff298/erhama1995/MTS2_jon119_734425_snapshot_54eedb6.jpg)
http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=278528

A perfectly meshed and designed recliner by Jon119, it's totally awesome, I have it in my game, but that eye-burning piece of shit by Blacky has got to go to the incinerator.  :-X

EDIT:OMG, I cannot believe I forgot to hand out the eye bleach *passes out eyebleach*


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: oolongteadrinker on 2008 September 29, 02:27:03
shit, Erhama. Those are great. Also, where did you get the beautiful trees in the background? Are they downloads or from an expansion?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Erhama on 2008 September 29, 02:35:24
shit, Erhama. Those are great. Also, where did you get the beautiful trees in the background? Are they downloads or from an expansion?
The trees come from Bon Voyage and the bamboo comes from the base game.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: oolongteadrinker on 2008 September 29, 02:38:07
shit, Erhama. Those are great. Also, where did you get the beautiful trees in the background? Are they downloads or from an expansion?
The trees come from Bon Voyage and the bamboo comes from the base game.

Color me surprised. I'm used to maxis stuff looking more... maxisy. But I only have the base game and pets, so I guess I'm behind the times. The trees look good enough to be on MTS2.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Hannahg on 2008 September 29, 03:01:10
That umbrella looks like the one you see in cocktail drinks.    :-X


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Erhama on 2008 September 29, 03:14:56
That umbrella looks like the one you see in cocktail drinks.    :-X
lol, I think blacky misplaced it somewhere where there is no water at all, the desert. *facepalm*


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2008 September 29, 03:16:33
That set from Blacky's looks like it belongs in Sims 1, if you want to hear the truth. Flat,flat, flat.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: oolongteadrinker on 2008 September 29, 04:06:43
I've been trying to track down a psychological study that was featured on Oprah several years ago.

It might've been tied to the "emotional intelligence" stuff that was bandied about big time about a decade ago. The gist was that 2 groups of people were put in a room. In both of the rooms was the same board game (or word game, I forget).
One group of people played the game for free. The other was paid to play the game.

The assumption was that the people who would be paid to play the game would end up having more fun and socializing with fellow players more. The opposite was true. The paid players were listless and bored and tried to get the "task" over with as soon as possible. The other group laughed and threw themselves into the game.

I'm no psychologist, but it doesn't take much of a leap to apply that to this. As others have said before in this thread, the people who do it for free do it for love and a genuine sense of fun. The people who do it for pay do it out of a sense of obligation, for the money, and under a time-frame.

It really explains why the majority of the paysite creators have the "good enough for government work" mentality.
If anyone knows the experiment I'm referring to, I'd appreciate the name. Thanks!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dragonarts on 2008 September 29, 04:31:56
I don't know the experiment you're referring to but if confirms something I've told my kids. My son-in-law was complaining about his job some time back, and I told him that no matter what your job is, work is still work. It doesn't matter if it's something you love doing, it is still work to do it. I was painting a mural at the time, for pay, and as much as I love to paint, it was still hard to go every day and make the effort to get it done.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Tarlia on 2008 September 29, 06:01:31
Look at this piece of payshit for sale at Blacky's

lulzy ugly orange crap

OMG, that is all?

A non-usable cooler, a badly textured umbrella and an eye-burning recliner?! You have got to be kidding me.

I like how the umbrella doesn't cast any shadow. I thought that was the whole point of it.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Erhama on 2008 September 29, 06:29:52
Look at this piece of payshit for sale at Blacky's

lulzy ugly orange crap

OMG, that is all?

A non-usable cooler, a badly textured umbrella and an eye-burning recliner?! You have got to be kidding me.

I like how the umbrella doesn't cast any shadow. I thought that was the whole point of it.
lol, I didn't even notice that XD


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: lexilove on 2008 September 30, 01:14:05
Woo! Accessory tym3z!

These lolshiny photoskinned PAY bangles from -guess who!- Lianaa.

(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/tmp/464/464446.jpg)

Versus these awesomely textured bangles at MTS2 by chaadoea:

(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r242/lex91793/bangles.jpg)


http://linna.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=294826



Gahh! I just realized that the MTS2 one uses Lianaa's mesh. *grumble*
So I guess that makes this post obsolete?
  :-\


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Erhama on 2008 September 30, 01:22:03
OMG, that one is totally awesome, ew, that TSR one is way too pixeled =x

Could ya link me to the download? Pweety pweas :3


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: lexilove on 2008 September 30, 01:45:20
Of course!
http://linna.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=294826


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2008 September 30, 02:07:56
Um, do us a favour instead of double-posting, ok? Wait until someone else has posted in the thread so you're not doing it. It do tend to get on some nerves. I only say it because until you hit a certain number of posts, I don't think you can edit your posts.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Erhama on 2008 September 30, 02:31:26
Wow, Victorian age was a very popular topic in CC, by the way, PAYSHIT :D

(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/tmp/664/664720.jpg)

And Adele's perfect take on the Victorian theme, it's perfect. <3

(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff298/erhama1995/MTS2_Adele_806669_adele_victoria-1.jpg)

Go download it now :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: neriana on 2008 September 30, 03:19:54
I love that second one. I can picture Sherlock Holmes in that room.

The first one is of a piece with TSR's other Victorian crapola: hideous textures. Actually, TSR seems to specialize in horrific textures.

ETA: I just got to Adele's page on MTS2 and now I must download nearly all of it. Dammit, Erhama! :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dragonarts on 2008 September 30, 03:44:14
As nice as that Adele set looks in her screenshots, it looks better in the game. Earlier in the thread some cruel person posted a comparison of paycrap with Adele's beautiful things and I went and downloaded the rest of her stuff that I didn't already have. This thread makes my download folder cry.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: jilly on 2008 September 30, 09:26:55
As nice as that Adele set looks in her screenshots, it looks better in the game. Earlier in the thread some cruel person posted a comparison of paycrap with Adele's beautiful things and I went and downloaded the rest of her stuff that I didn't already have. This thread makes my download folder cry.


That was me  :D

MOAR ADELE! Her jacket pwns this fuggy TSR one

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q186/jilly4/adelejacket.jpg)
(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/288/288902.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Erhama on 2008 September 30, 11:29:31
ETA: I just got to Adele's page on MTS2 and now I must download nearly all of it. Dammit, Erhama! :D
Lawl, I just love making people lose space on their PCs :p


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Astonished lemons on 2008 September 30, 16:37:25
In the top right of that TSR victorian room, are those pillows plastered to the backing of the sofa? Thats what it looks like. That or theyre floating.

Adele's stuff owns, I had to get everything after I saw that gothic-victorian livingroom on the WNF aspiration set.
>.<


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: pinkyfriend on 2008 September 30, 23:55:25
this thread is feeding my cc addiction....


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2008 October 01, 00:29:55
Oh, we are old pros at feeding CC addiction, we've got a lot of creators who hang out here. :D I've got about a gig and a half of some primo stuff in the new computer now and am finding lots more because of this thread. Now it takes five minutes for my game to load instead of thirty seconds...


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Beth on 2008 October 01, 00:45:41
I find it hard to believe when people say their game takes over an hour sometimes to load.
How the hell?
Either they have a hard drive full of CC, a very shite PC or they over exagerate (no offense, but my PC isn;t the best spec wise and my game takes about 5 minutes, even with heaps of CC)
And we need MOAR comparing! *looks around*


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 October 01, 00:50:36
I find it hard to believe when people say their game takes over an hour sometimes to load.
How the hell?
Either they have a hard drive full of CC, a very shite PC or they over exagerate (no offense, but my PC isn;t the best spec wise and my game takes about 5 minutes, even with heaps of CC)
And we need MOAR comparing! *looks around*

I know people who have external harddrives specifically for their sims 2 CC. So it's very possible to have an hour of load time. Mine used to be 30 minutes until I got the compressorizer.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dragonarts on 2008 October 01, 01:24:03
Check out this "Parisian" Apartment Lot from TSR, made by Rabold8:
Outside:
(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/775/775310.jpg)
Inside:
(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/775/775309_2.jpg)
Very boring.

Now, from BlackOrchid at MTS2: (http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=302363 (http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=302363)
Outside:
(http://th82.deviantart.com/fs37/300W/f/2008/274/d/3/BlackOrchidParis_by_dragonarts.jpg)
Inside:
(http://th63.deviantart.com/fs36/300W/f/2008/274/5/0/BlackOrchidParisInside_by_dragonarts.jpg)

BlackOrchid had a bunch of other screenshots, but I only show two here. Also, there were two flavors of furnished apartments, one with CC, and one just Maxis stuff. I know which one of these two offerings I'd rather download. (Not the TSR one, that's for sure. Ugh. I could build one that good myself. And I'm a lousy builder.)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: jilly on 2008 October 01, 01:39:41
I bet you won't believe me, but my game takes 3 or more hours to load  :P


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: neriana on 2008 October 01, 01:52:31
My game takes about 15 minutes to load, and I have a very good computer. I have way too much cc, but I'd rather wait 15 minutes than give most of it up.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2008 October 01, 01:55:20
Same here, and some of it is stuff that you made. I love those quilts!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SimARR on 2008 October 01, 03:08:07
My game finally just didn't load when I hit the 11GB CC mark... twas a sad day. Now it takes 5 minutes or so to load after my cleanout.

Love the BlackOrchid stuff btw! Thanks for the link!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Erhama on 2008 October 01, 03:50:34
Wow, that TSR lot looks NOTHING like a Parisian Apartment, :p

That's more like a bullshit piece of building plastered into one and then furnish with EAxis stuff and the only CC I see there is the pics O.o

Wow, totally payshit.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: neriana on 2008 October 01, 03:54:05
Same here, and some of it is stuff that you made. I love those quilts!

Thanks Paden :).


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Astonished lemons on 2008 October 01, 04:00:40
I find it hard to believe when people say their game takes over an hour sometimes to load.
How the hell?
Either they have a hard drive full of CC, a very shite PC or they over exagerate (no offense, but my PC isn;t the best spec wise and my game takes about 5 minutes, even with heaps of CC)
And we need MOAR comparing! *looks around*

I know people who have external harddrives specifically for their sims 2 CC. So it's very possible to have an hour of load time. Mine used to be 30 minutes until I got the compressorizer.

WAIT A MINUTE!

The compressorizor helps the game load faster? I thought it just made more room for files.
Seriously?!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 October 01, 04:22:52
Yeah. From what I read in a thread once, since it makes the files smaller, it's less for the game to read. I think it was a thread at MATY but don't quote me on that.... ever since it though it's been loading rather fast. Before I used to make myself some food and drinks, and go talk to the roomies, watch some Shin-Chan, then play my sims. Now I can just do like two laps around the apartment and it's done.

edited: Here is the topic about it.

http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,8316.0.html


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Astonished lemons on 2008 October 01, 04:28:47
Hell yes!
Im going to do my entire DL folder now!
(I had only been doing the new things Ive gotten, not all my old files)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 October 01, 04:33:50
 :D It's a miracle worker. I know it says not to compress hacks, but I did it on accident once, and my game's been "okay." Nothing has exploded yet....


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2008 October 01, 05:05:31
My computer doesn't like it when I compress the files... It can be finicky.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: oolongteadrinker on 2008 October 01, 06:22:56
:D It's a miracle worker. I know it says not to compress hacks, but I did it on accident once, and my game's been "okay." Nothing has exploded yet....

I did that anyway! (I backed them up first). But it's been fine for me. (basegame and pets only. No promises about other expansions). It helps that I only have a few hacks. The vegetarian food replacement hack, the spongebath on sinks hack, some custom careers, and "no friends needed for careers". Meritocracy, bitches!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 October 01, 15:29:21
:D It's a miracle worker. I know it says not to compress hacks, but I did it on accident once, and my game's been "okay." Nothing has exploded yet....

I did that anyway! (I backed them up first). But it's been fine for me. (basegame and pets only. No promises about other expansions). It helps that I only have a few hacks. The vegetarian food replacement hack, the spongebath on sinks hack, some custom careers, and "no friends needed for careers". Meritocracy, bitches!

I have all the expansions expect Ikea Cause that one goes against my principle, and just now looking in my Hacks-Mods folder I have 47 files..... and yes I delete readme's and pictures out of all my folders.

So needless to say if I did not have hacks I would die and couldn't play my sims. When I took out my hacks to find out what was wrong with the apartment I felt so naked.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: vexed on 2008 October 02, 07:00:53
Same here, and some of it is stuff that you made. I love those quilts!

Thanks Paden :).

Did someone say quilts?  I need more!

*scurries off to look*


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: keirra on 2008 October 02, 07:41:39
My game takes about 15 minutes to load, and I have a very good computer. I have way too much cc, but I'd rather wait 15 minutes than give most of it up.

How much is "quite a bit of CC"? I'm just curious. I have about 2000 CC files, running all EP's and several Stuff Packs on a laptop that I thought wouldn't be capable of playing AL and my game loads to a lot in 4 minutes.

I feel super lucky that it loads so fast.  :)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 October 02, 07:47:06
I guess now should be a good time to mention that I have 11,852 files in 31 folders.  :-[ And I guess now would be a good time to get sims download therapy.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: keirra on 2008 October 02, 07:50:30
Wow, 11,852 files? That's crazy. (I don't mean that in a bad way.) How could you possibly use so many files? I used to have around 6000, but, after taking a closer look at everything, I realized I didn't use most of them. Away they went.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Smeagol on 2008 October 02, 07:52:35
I have about that many, AFTER a major clean out.  It is an addiction. I log on to check the forums, and I just can help browsing my fave free sites to see what goodies are new. Then even though I know I have waaaaay too much I dl more. My game takes FOREVER to load. Maybe we need a support group.

My name is Smeagol, and I am a download-a-holic.  :-\


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: keirra on 2008 October 02, 07:56:48
I consider myself a download whore....hmmmm guess I'm not as bad as I thought.  :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 October 02, 08:01:19
I know it sucks. About once a month I take an hour and clean it out, but every time I clean it, out it just gets larger. Most of it is recolors. My bed recolor catalog has probably a good 50 to 100 bedding's in it by itself. Not to mention my 50 hacks I have, did I mention I'm a skintone/eye/hair whore? Oh and I love couches too. Hell let's just be honest, I download everything. I will admit though, I don't really download paystuff. Unless it's streaked recolors at GOS. Eventhough I remove those sooner or later, but I download them on the small chance I might use them. I even have crap tons of clutter that I need to remove, but I can't stand to part with it on the off chance I might want to use it.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Erhama on 2008 October 02, 08:04:22
I have about 4,600 files, I thought I had, 11,000

But before EA damaged my DL folder, it had about 12,942 Files, nearly all my C:/ was taken away. XD


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Smeagol on 2008 October 02, 08:06:44
I agree Missbonbon.  As soon as I delete something, I am hit with a pang that I must have whatever it was for the next house I do. When it started taking like 2 hrs for the game to load I realized there was a problemo.  I really should stay far far away from this thread as it has so many tempting pretty shiny things!!
Must not dl..... must be strong......   But I wants the precious Noukie hairs.....  ARGHHHHHH

{Runs off to DL free content displayed in thread}


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 October 02, 08:15:58
Yeah it's like an addiction. I know why I download tons of clothes though. Because in the real world, I am to broke to buy all the shoes and clothes that I want. But in the sims world, it's free! Well most of it, and if it isn't it should be! So I can have all my pretty clothes, and satisfy my need to go shopping.

The funny thing is, pretty much all of my houses have the same feel. They are spacious houses, with different feels for each house.

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j61/miss_sabrina/sims2/ScreenShot003-1.jpg
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j61/miss_sabrina/sims2/ScreenShot004-1.jpg

Like this house for instance. Any of my sims houses you go to pretty much look like that. Pretty much pink/green/blue. I tried to do grungy but it just felt so wrong. Plus a good chunk of my downloads folder is for a beach house I have been meaning to forever create, but I just keep putting it off because I hate decorating.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: keirra on 2008 October 02, 08:22:41
If you have your downloads sorted, you could take out the files for the beach house and only put them back in when you actually build it. Just a suggestion.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 October 02, 08:27:27
They aren't. Hence why I almost have 12,000 files and 31 folders.  :D They are sorted by the basics, what they are. So everything in buy is in a folder, everything for build mode is in a folder, everything for hairs, etc etc. Not sorted at all.

This is partially why I don't share many houses either. I use so much CC I wouldn't know who's TOS I would be violating, and I would have no idea what actually belongs in there vs. what sneaked into the file.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: oolongteadrinker on 2008 October 02, 09:56:51
The recent posts here have me afraid to even look through my downloads folder to see how many files they have. Instead I present tartan undies/sleepwear!

This bland tartan from tsr
(http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo159/oolongtea29/779239.jpg)
The straps are ugly. I know, cover them up with even uglier hair!

mts2 tartan from Ninika: http://www.modthesims2.com/member.php?u=70638 (http://www.modthesims2.com/member.php?u=70638)
(http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo159/oolongtea29/greenhb0.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: deelink on 2008 October 02, 10:26:46
Very cute Tartan set! (the free one of course!) Ninika's stuff is awesome :P
I try to not download too much...hehe, here is the bad news: 5GB compressed. 39,000 files. 1016 Folders. :P Loading time? Who the hell knows? I am usually on Smash Bros Brawl till I die/finish level and then I come and check on it. Usually it's already loaded :)
ALEMONS....your rooms are beautiful!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: CellBlockTango on 2008 October 02, 11:45:48
Threads like this one are definately bad for my dl folder. I'm pretty much a dl addict, when I'm home I spend more time downloading sim stuff than actually playing the game. I'm suffering serious withdrawal symptons now I'm back at uni as we haven't got internet at the flat yet so I can't download any new stuff. arggh!

At least hmy downloads are reasonably organised though, I have them categorised under the different categories under build/buy/bodyshop and then in carefully named subfolders so I should in theory be able to identify individual creators. As for how big the folder is, i'm not sure right now as I'm on a different comp but it takes about 15 mins to load, which is about enough time for a round of mariokart or a few bouts of Supersmash bros (like Deelink). I play on a laptop but it's harddisk is rapidly filling up with cc! uh-oh!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: oolongteadrinker on 2008 October 02, 15:16:55
Threads like this one are definately bad for my dl folder. I'm pretty much a dl addict, when I'm home I spend more time downloading sim stuff than actually playing the game.

I'm guilty of that, too.

I finally girded my courage to see my file count. *cough* I have all of you beat *hangs head in shame*
by a lot.
takes me about 10-12 minutes to get to the neighborhood screen.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: cookiepirate on 2008 October 02, 18:47:51
1.67 gigs of CC which equals 12,829 files in 1,229 folders and takes about 3 minutes to get to the neighborhood screen.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2008 October 02, 19:53:04
1.5 gigs of CC and growing. I found that I love Art Deco stuff and cannot resist. *hangs head in shame* I even went to Sims Design Avenue and grabbed what they had... And they has donation sets, so that makes them a paysite, but the stuffz I got were free. I'm waiting to see if any of it cuts or bleeds through. I'm always on the look-out for Art Deco... Blame my mom and her parents, they loved the stuff and influenced me!

Neriana's quilts, Cala's gorgeous bedding, the afore-mentioned style of stuff, build mode objects, clothes, Nouk's hairs, eyes, skin tones, Hec's Falling Water, etc... I've also discovered Adele's victorian stuff. I use hacks by jfade and Squinge and a few hacked objects. Help, I'm sinking fast!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: mustluvcatz on 2008 October 02, 20:31:45
I'm waiting to see if any of it cuts or bleeds through.

I've never noticed any problems with the objects I downloaded from there.

I knew I shouldn't have checked...well over 13,000 files. Yet, I'm still looking for new goodies and there's still a bunch of stuff on my desktop waiting for me to take care of it!  :o


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 October 02, 20:33:25
Um... I have 17,633 files in my downloads folder.  :-[  I don't even know how many subfolders I have, but I'm pretty anal about organization, so... I'm guessing a LOT. I routinely get rid of stuff, but I also routinely download stuff. It doesn't take all that long to load, though, really. Usually I can start the game and go outside for a smoke, come back, read another page of whatever book I'm reading, and it's ready. Okay, maybe that is a while, but it's a lot less than it used to be, before the compressorizer.

Missbonbon: that pic of your bedroom is fabulous. I want! Especially the curtains. *hinthint*  :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: neriana on 2008 October 02, 20:42:09
I've got 34,383 files. ;D They're pretty well organized. I use most of the objects; I guess I should cull some of the clothing, but meh. My game runs fine, and I don't mind waiting 15 minutes for it to load.

I might go through and delete all the pay content when I feel the need to put off something more important, but for now I'm happy with what I've got. I don't have much pay stuff any more anyway, most of it isn't as good as the screenshots.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: keirra on 2008 October 02, 20:43:36
 :o That is quite a few! Makes my 2000 seem like nothing.  :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2008 October 02, 20:53:55
I just peeked and I have 5, 866 so now I don't feel so bad. That means I can go after MOAR STUFFZ!!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Hannahg on 2008 October 02, 20:59:59
I have over 31,729 files; 9.14GB :(. *Sigh* this thread isn't helping much with my addiction. And I still have 4 folders on my desktop filled with more stuff I downloaded.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Skadi on 2008 October 02, 21:44:45
9,110 files, 116 folders 1.59gb. Thanks heavens for the Compressorizer.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: keirra on 2008 October 02, 22:23:10
You guys are out of control.  :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Skadi on 2008 October 02, 22:39:55
I blame this thread for most of the downloads.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Erhama on 2008 October 02, 22:40:50
Wait, lemme correct what I have, it's like, 4,000 files or something alike, and it's 4.34GB


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Souvenirs on 2008 October 02, 22:57:26
I have 16,551. :(  You know, I think I'd play more if it didn't take so long to boot up the game, but I can't bear to get rid of anything.  I did a major clean out a few months ago and cut it in half...but since then I've gotten a lot more discriminating about what I download, so now it's all quality stuff that I can't get myself to delete because it's too pretty.

Even worse, I have no organized subfolders.  The only subfolders I have are from things I downloaded that came in a folder and I didn't bother to take out.  Everything else is just thrown in there.  I remember wanting to organize it a couple of months after I'd reinstalled the game (before about a year and a half ago, I didn't have a stable computer, so I never got more than a couple hundred downloads before everything'd be blown away), but I refrained because I thought 700 was too many to go through. :D  Little did I know.

It's not compressorized, either.  I'm afraid to, because I think I have a couple of hacks in there, but I'll never be able to find them in that mess.  And if anything conflicts, I'm pretty much screwed.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Astonished lemons on 2008 October 02, 23:13:19
I used to have about two gigs (1.80) of CC, but since I had to reformat my harddrive (and since the discovery of the compressorizor) I have 2,642 files in 696mb.

Wimpy, wimpy, wimpy.

 :P


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: mustluvcatz on 2008 October 02, 23:14:48
Compressorizer? Now I be a confused pumpkin. Not to sound stupid, but what is that, where can I get it and if I use it, it'll do what?

ETA: I know, I know...search is my friend. I AM searching!


Edited AGAIN to add: Yeah, I know! I thought about that 2 seconds after I hit save. I was expecting to have to walk the plank over that. Google really isn't my friend though, I prefer to use MSN or Ask. Ask is really cool because you can see a preview of the page before you click on it. (I hate going to a page I already went to earlier just because I have a faulty memory and couldn't remember if I'd been there....)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: keirra on 2008 October 02, 23:16:15
Here. (http://www.djssims.com/index.php?category=1&subcat=5) Remember, google is your friend.

It compresses your sims files which makes more room for Moar Files.  ;D It also helps my game start up faster.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: iamawake on 2008 October 02, 23:21:33
Ha! I laugh at your general direction. Properly purged and without most of the build items I previously had from dowloading lots my dowloads folder has 18,602 files. Playing the game directly out of the box is, as you see, not an option.

I should look into this Compressorizer, though.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2008 October 02, 23:52:16
Use the Clean installer to help sort some stuffs, the hacks will show red. Put them in their own folder, take them out snd use the compressorizer doohicky.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 October 03, 01:36:48
Even worse, I have no organized subfolders.  The only subfolders I have are from things I downloaded that came in a folder and I didn't bother to take out.  Everything else is just thrown in there.  I remember wanting to organize it a couple of months after I'd reinstalled the game (before about a year and a half ago, I didn't have a stable computer, so I never got more than a couple hundred downloads before everything'd be blown away), but I refrained because I thought 700 was too many to go through. :D  Little did I know.

I would just love, LOVE to get my hands on your computer! I really like organizing stuff like that. When I did mine I had something like 5,000 files. I took my time, and over the course of a couple days, I had everything organized in a pretty neat little system. I've been thinking of re-vamping it lately, but I'm still considering what kind of organizational system would work better for me than the one I already employ.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: oolongteadrinker on 2008 October 03, 02:19:43
I've heard that sorting things like brows, skins, accessories, clothes hair and makeup will result in them not showing up in the game at all, but clearly some people are doing just that and the content shows up in game.

This thread is the devil. I've downloaded almost every free content its led me to. All except the falling water house, but now I'm considering that, too.

*sigh*


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 October 03, 02:25:39
Even worse, I have no organized subfolders.  The only subfolders I have are from things I downloaded that came in a folder and I didn't bother to take out.  Everything else is just thrown in there.  I remember wanting to organize it a couple of months after I'd reinstalled the game (before about a year and a half ago, I didn't have a stable computer, so I never got more than a couple hundred downloads before everything'd be blown away), but I refrained because I thought 700 was too many to go through. :D  Little did I know.

I would just love, LOVE to get my hands on your computer! I really like organizing stuff like that. When I did mine I had something like 5,000 files. I took my time, and over the course of a couple days, I had everything organized in a pretty neat little system. I've been thinking of re-vamping it lately, but I'm still considering what kind of organizational system would work better for me than the one I already employ.

Want to organize mine? I shall pay you with cookies and alcohol.  ;D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 October 03, 03:09:52
Want to organize mine? I shall pay you with cookies and alcohol.  ;D

Hah, that's a good enough payment for me!  ;)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Skadi on 2008 October 03, 03:14:31
You can subfolder stuff NL or later, but if you have too many folders in folders, it can slow your loading time. I found since I only have 1 folder level (downloads>hairnouk for example) and any defaults just in the download folder, my game is surprisingly quick to load.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: crunk on 2008 October 03, 03:56:45
You can subfolder stuff NL or later, but if you have too many folders in folders, it can slow your loading time. I found since I only have 1 folder level (downloads>hairnouk for example) and any defaults just in the download folder, my game is surprisingly quick to load.

I can do more than one layer deep on folders?  :o

Sadly, I now know how I'll spend at least some of my Friday night!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: keirra on 2008 October 03, 05:34:37
I have folders in folders in folders in folders....you get the idea. My load time is excellent.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2008 October 03, 12:20:26
*offers rum and cookies* Do you organize music?

Actually, its not that I don't already have a good system for organizing music, just anytime I start working on it a> my wrist hates me, of b> I get to start over.  I don't think I've ever made it past G.  I've currently got almost 500 gigs of music, and I'm sure a good 1/4 or more is duplicates, as I share music with friends and family.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 October 03, 16:15:18
Want to organize mine? I shall pay you with cookies and alcohol.  ;D

Hah, that's a good enough payment for me!  ;)

Yay! Maybe now I won't have so many files names laif193759533_ohf667.package. I hate that crap. I thought someone in a thread around here offered another program that scans your entire system for duplicate files? I know I read it somewhere.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2008 October 03, 17:32:31
I've said it before, but not sure where, but the Clean Installer will find duplicate files and highlight them in pink. The hacks will be outlined in red and regular files will say what they are for the most part. It will also give you preview pics. I like it, it's helped me organize the mess somewhat.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 October 03, 17:44:01
Yes but Soggy needs it for music files.  :)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2008 October 03, 17:57:53
I must be more tired than I thought. Way back when, I used to make 26 different folders for music and chuck them in according to alphabetical order. I didn't do it by song title, I did it by artist. For some reason, that made it easier for me to figure out where the dupes were and which was the better version. I'm weird that way.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 October 03, 19:18:13
I have a very hard time with music. A while ago my computer decided to spit fire at me, and instead of trying to fix it, we just erased everything and upgraded to Vista. We had our music, photos, and SIMS! (of course) backed up, but the music files were just down right mean to me! Really mean. I don't even know what the hell happened, but I did eventually get them to work. It's just instead of having a nice, neat place for music, I have files here, there and everywhere. Or maybe that's because I use iTunes. I don't know.

I had to organize Sims stuff because my other half used to use this computer, and he would have teased me to no end if he saw 'evidence' of my 'obsession'. Now, it's just way easier to keep it all organized, especially considering that CAS no longer gives me the option to delete such things as Makeup, Accessories, or Facial Hair. Dammit, CAS! Don't you know any better?   *insert fist shaking smiley*   I'm going to cut your heart out with a spoon!

I would imagine that many subfolders do slow down your game (unless, it seems, you're keirra), but for me it's worth it to have some slow time versus time spent trying to find something.

Anyhow, MissB, if you really want me to organize your DL folder, I'd be glad to. But, I must warn you, I'm not an expert! I just like organizing things. Which is odd, cause my house is always a wreck!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: ValkyrieProfile on 2008 October 03, 20:06:01
I thought someone in a thread around here offered another program that scans your entire system for duplicate files? I know I read it somewhere.

That program would be Esay Duplicate Finder (http://www.easyduplicatefinder.com/).
I can't find the orginal thread where it was mentioned, but it was not too long ago on this forum.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Skadi on 2008 October 03, 20:28:15
I you can definitely use multiple folder levels in the sims, but my machine (somewhat older - Sempron 3100+, 1gb ram, ATI 9550) loads faster with 1 folder level.

As for music, I have subfolders for entire albums that people share with me; otherwise they are all loose, but I also just make sure they are all named artist - songtitle.mp3 so that way it is easy for me to sort through. As for music, I have 5,163 files or 27.5gb on one dedicated hdd.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2008 October 03, 20:35:52
My prefered sorting for mods for the sims is a folder for each downloaded item - but its gotten messy.  Also, hacks are supposed to be in their own subfolder.

For music, I'm trying to sort it all into subfolders alphabetically, a folder for each letter [except x, y, and z sharing one] and a folder for # named groups and a folder for various, which holds soundtracks, compilation albums, and traditional music.  And I have a holiday music folder with halloween and christmas-time stuff.

Then I try to have all my artist's subfolders tidied with stuff sorted by album.  Unfortunately, not everyone I've gotten music from is as ocd about it, so I've got a lot of work to do.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: neriana on 2008 October 04, 02:55:55
I tried other methods, but settled on sorting items by place of origin. It's simple and I know where to go if I have a problem. My modthesims2 folder has subfolders by creator, but that's it.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2008 October 04, 04:20:52
I'm going to try out that little utility, I have no clue what all I have squirreled away on my game computer any more... Looks like it needs a good clean out, that's for damn sure!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: ThirtyMinutesAgo on 2008 October 04, 15:57:09
Quote
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3120/2608177861_821d2f7525_b.jpg

DISGUSTING THAT PERSON SHOULD BE BANNED FROM SIMS 2.

 >:(

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EWWW

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Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Feverish on 2008 October 04, 16:02:40
You wasted most of my screen just to post that? You have got to be kidding. It isn't even Sunday here yet. Please don't do that again, and please don't speak in caps. It's considered rude. Besides, I don't see why that person should be banned if she isn't selling anything. Therefore, we really don't care how she plays her game.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Anyerfillag on 2008 October 04, 16:03:11
Bad troll! Stop using so many bloody smilies ::)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: meowbark on 2008 October 04, 16:05:04
TMA. GTFO PMD.

No one wants you here if all your going to do is act like a 12 and tell us to fuck our sisters. :-X


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Feverish on 2008 October 04, 16:08:54
No one wants you here if all your going to do is act like a 12 and tell us to fuck our sisters. :-X
When I read that, I laughed out loud for some reason. Maybe I'm just too giddy, but that sentence cracks me up. I know. I'm a dork. And easy to please.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: meowbark on 2008 October 04, 16:13:55
No one wants you here if all your going to do is act like a 12 and tell us to fuck our sisters. :-X
When I read that, I laughed out loud for some reason. Maybe I'm just too giddy, but that sentence cracks me up. I know. I'm a dork. And easy to please.
Well I guess that's good that I can put a smile on somebody's face xP


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: pinkyfriend on 2008 October 04, 16:21:23
 ??? It hurt my eyes a little, but not sure why 30min posted it in this thread. Please read FAQ dude/ette!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Millie on 2008 October 04, 16:25:41
Pinky, Dude/Dudette is a troll. With an unhealthy obsession with incest, no less.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2008 October 04, 16:37:50
And a handful of rocks, apparently.  Go back home, actually -read- your bible, the -whole- thing, and then maybe we can discuss this again.  But I seriously doubt you are eligible to cast stones.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: missangelica on 2008 October 04, 16:46:00
You guys really love feeding this troll.   :P


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paleoanth on 2008 October 04, 17:10:52
It is times like this, that I really wish we had an ignore option.  30minutes would have made that list in 1 minute.

ANGELICA! I miss you! Come back to KoL!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Erhama on 2008 October 05, 00:50:35
Quote
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3120/2608177861_821d2f7525_b.jpg

DISGUSTING THAT PERSON SHOULD BE BANNED FROM SIMS 2.
EWWW
At least some people do have talent with this game and have creativity, unlike you, whining like a little girl >.>


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: ThirtyMinutesAgo on 2008 October 05, 00:57:09
You think THIS is talent? You clearly have no taste. GO FUCK YOUR AUNT!

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3120/2608177861_821d2f7525_b.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: scrappysim on 2008 October 05, 01:12:26
I realize that you are trying to shock us or something but this image has been seen and discusses here before and really, not shocked.  Meh.  Go home now, I can here your mommy calling.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Erhama on 2008 October 05, 01:13:10
You think THIS is talent? You clearly have no taste. GO FUCK YOUR AUNT!

*snip*
Well, can you do any better?

I bet all you can do is you and your WHOLE FAMILY in bed, since you love incest, oh and by the way, make me, I'm to lazy to go fuck my aunt,so yeah....

Oh yes, and you clearly have no manners.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 October 05, 01:22:12
Incest troll is obsessive.

Why in the world would one be so sensitive to the mere suggestion of incestuous relationship, yet demand that one go fuck alternating members of one's family?
I'm sure there are counselors in your area, Obsessive Troll. It may be in your best interest to consult one.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2008 October 05, 02:39:53
Actually, rude troll, I could go over why that artist has talent - you see, execution of any piece of work is what shows skill, regardless of subject matter or lack there of.  [Though in my modern art history class, I had a hard time with have the styles being art ]

Oh, and since you are so limited in breadth of your insults, rude troll, why don't you do this - Why don't you take your sisters barbie and shove it sideways up your rectum.  Then send Ken to rescue her.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 October 05, 02:52:02

Oh, and since you are so limited in breadth of your insults, rude troll, why don't you do this - Why don't you take your sisters barbie and shove it sideways up your rectum.  Then send Ken to rescue her.

I want to quote that for my siggy.  :)

As for the picture, big whoop. I think it's talent. Can you do that? No? Then shut the fuck up already.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2008 October 05, 02:55:17
Woo!  Sure, feel free - sorry, I'm letting the tiny portion of mean show through, but I do dislike certain forms of rude.  Rude Troll found those buttons :)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: oolongteadrinker on 2008 October 05, 03:36:25
Incest troll is obsessive.

I agree. Methinks 30minutes doth protest too much. Something to tell us, hm? You're obviously spending a lot of time looking through that sort of content, over and over and over again.

Can we please post pics of shoddy paysite crap again? Pretty please?

In the meantime I'll be here
http://phorum.mustnotbenamed.com/index.php/topic,1982.1380.html


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: jilly on 2008 October 05, 12:03:16
Ok, oolongteadrinker  :D

Fug pay hair from t$r

(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/tmp/661/661739.jpg)

Pretty hair from Anva at GoS  ;D

(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii163/BoomBoomBerries/HairHardCandy.png)
http://www.digitalperversion.net/gardenofshadows/index.php?topic=5758.0


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 October 05, 12:36:16
That mesh is pay.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: jilly on 2008 October 05, 12:51:31
They included it  :P


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 October 05, 12:53:45
They included it  :P

Oh well then, we'll just use the booty to compare against the actual things on paysites.  ::)

(http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/6581/doingitwrongvacuumbd4.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Topaz on 2008 October 05, 13:43:02
that macro made me lol.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: elpemmy on 2008 October 05, 14:11:00
That's a brilliant macro.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: vindi on 2008 October 05, 17:54:03
Did someone call for a free comparison?

http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=243334
http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=289584
http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=243332
http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=211075

Tons of streaked recolors of XMsims meshes. However, picking XM for a comparison is awkward because some consider them pay and some consider them free. :/

So here's a completely free comparison with no streaks...
(http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/4166/mts2thumbholly768466alleu4.jpg)
http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=288173

And another comparison that's longer, still has a headband, and streaks...
(http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/7861/mts2thumbxnymphetaminexis3.jpg)
http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=224406


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2008 October 05, 18:01:48
If they have donation sets, I tend to think of them as pay. But I do like some of their free hairs, but don't use them much. I haz Nouk, Helga and HP! And one or two others, maybe, like Kavar...


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Souvenirs on 2008 October 05, 20:56:21
Has anyone ever contacted XM about going free?  The fact that they haven't released a donation set since early 2006 makes me think that they're not too serious about making monies off of their site; if they were, they could probably make loads off of the hair, as opposed to outdated-looking furniture from three years ago, which is basically what their donation sets are.

It would be great to have another free site with a lot of hair to combat Raon, Rose, and Peggy.  While Nouk and Helga are great, they still hardly hold a candle to the pay creaters in terms of the sheer amount of hair they make.  XM has a lot, and they're good quality, too.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2008 October 05, 21:23:11
As for me, I go for quality, not quantity.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 October 06, 00:42:03
The evidence of sheeples giving Peggy, Raon, and Rose their monies would suggest that there are those out there that are lured by quantity, and are willing to negotiate (or rather, could give un crap about) quality.

Edit: Spelling!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: redisenchanted on 2008 October 06, 04:03:11
All of XM sims hair is free. They did say they were going to release all their donation sets, and they have released many of them, but they haven't completed it. It's been more than 2 years since their last donation set, so they're almost free. I wish they'd just do it already.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Astonished lemons on 2008 October 06, 07:06:00
I didnt even know they were 'pay' untill now.

Obviously as far as paysites go they arent very motivated.

 ;)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: missangelica on 2008 October 06, 12:54:44
I didnt even know they were 'pay' until now.

Obviously as far as paysites go they arent very motivated.

 ;)

They used to be.  It was one of the first Sims 2 paysites that I knew of.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dragonarts on 2008 October 07, 01:08:21
As far as I'm concerned, the "quantity" of Peggy, Raon, and Rose hairs is immaterial, as they all look terrible in the game. I'd rather have one high quality hair by Nouk or Helga than several dozen ugly hairs by Peggy/Rose/Raon. It is true though that there are a lot of uneducated sheeples out there that don't agree with that. They like having a bloated download folder full of crappy looking hairs. They don't seem to realize that they only collect so many because they are in pursuit of decent looking ones.

I'm struggling to learn meshing hair myself. I can get my meshes into the game, they just all look awful, so I do know that doing hair well is hard. I don't think that's any excuse for Peggy et al, because they don't seem to care how well they do hair. I wouldn't pay for any of it anyway, but I might be willing to have some in my game if they just cared enough to do a quality job. I do have a couple XM hairs in my downloads folder. Not many because even though they are better than Rose/Peggy/Raon, they still aren't up to Noukie standards.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2008 October 07, 01:41:40
Very little is up to Noukie's standards.  I can't even bring myself to use most of the eaxis hairs anymore.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: oolongteadrinker on 2008 October 07, 21:40:04
Very little is up to Noukie's standards.  I can't even bring myself to use most of the eaxis hairs anymore.

I never have (except the bald ones).


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: autumnrose on 2008 October 08, 02:12:41
I pretty much exclusively use Nouk's and Helga's hairs. Maybe a few MTS2 recolors of their hairs too.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: HeartOFire on 2008 October 08, 02:28:15
Paden mentioned Nouk and Helga, but who is HP?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: deelink on 2008 October 08, 02:31:53
Paden mentioned Nouk and Helga, but who is HP?

HystericalParoxysm (http://nene.modthesims2.com/member.php?u=31337)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: HeartOFire on 2008 October 08, 02:54:59
Wow, I don't know how I missed this one.  I am a total hair collector.  Thanks for the link.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Rissa on 2008 October 08, 10:13:00
(http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/4601/big129wy6.th.jpg) (http://img523.imageshack.us/my.php?image=big129wy6.jpg)(http://img523.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif) (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)
VS
(http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/3919/036bigis6.th.jpg) (http://img523.imageshack.us/my.php?image=036bigis6.jpg)(http://img523.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif) (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Jojoba on 2008 October 08, 10:41:03
The Helga hair is much nicer, and probably a lot lower polys - Raon's poly counts are ridiculously high


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Rissa on 2008 October 08, 10:48:02
Yep, that's for sure: The Raonsims hair has  9892 polys!!!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Anyerfillag on 2008 October 08, 14:50:44
Oh thats nothing, her latest one (Hair 85 for female) is 15158 faces and 9857 vertices (i.e. fucking HUGE!) :o


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Rissa on 2008 October 08, 15:03:25
That's true, quite some of their most recent hairs have more than 10,000 polys:
f81-13,326
f77-14,820
f76 (free)-11,124
m35-11,780

To me it in the end doesn't really matter if it's 11,000 or 20,000, too much is too much.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: keirra on 2008 October 08, 20:20:39
Damn. I must stay away from Raon. I only have 2 of her hairs in my game and one of them is M35. I'm off to delete my Raon folder now.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Druid on 2008 October 09, 00:37:58
Check the blog SimPoly first (http://community.livejournal.com/simpoly/) - Some older ones are perfectly safe to have in your game. Unless you've just been looking for an excuse to do a bit of cleaning of CC, then delete away. :)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: keirra on 2008 October 09, 05:00:30
Ahhh, thanks Druid. I remember seeing that link before, but, forgot to bookmark it.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Darqstar on 2008 October 14, 17:46:26
First we have this gem from TSR:

(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/686/686293.jpg)

In all honesty, I wasn't too horrified.  All things considering, it isn't that bad.

Then, we go over to MTS2 and find this:

(http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/8361/mts2alovingdiva823190sptu9.jpg)

(The adorible swimsuits above can be found here:  http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=303983 (http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=303983))

The first one I couldn't even be bothered to download.  The second I downloaded and plan on sending all my female sims on vacations to the beach so they can wear these suits. 


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Metatwaddle on 2008 October 14, 18:20:24
The Helga hair is much nicer, and probably a lot lower polys - Raon's poly counts are ridiculously high
I don't know about polys, but I have trouble with Helga's textures (and Raon's too, for that matter). Luckily, there are plenty of wonderful free creators doing retextures. I think the ones I have for that mesh are from either Sailor or Dachshunds4me.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dietofworms on 2008 October 14, 19:46:01
I love those MTS swimsuits!  I downloaded them right away, even though I don't play and have no need for bodyshop stuff. :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Darqstar on 2008 October 14, 21:51:46
I love those MTS swimsuits!  I downloaded them right away, even though I don't play and have no need for bodyshop stuff. :D

Except for having no shoulder straps, they remind me a lot of the swimsuits women wore when I was growing up.  I just love them too!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: jilly on 2008 October 15, 10:47:53
I love those MTS swimsuits!  I downloaded them right away, even though I don't play and have no need for bodyshop stuff. :D

Except for having no shoulder straps, they remind me a lot of the swimsuits women wore when I was growing up.  I just love them too!

She made a part 2 set!  :D I love them too

(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/tmp/594/594182.jpg)

vs

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q186/jilly4/MTS2_Nouk_691420_winterhathairpv650.jpg)

http://www.noukiesims2.net/tiny/index.php?topic=52.0


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: ooglafina on 2008 October 15, 18:33:22
I think we should rename this threat "In praise of Nouk."  :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: daniyagami on 2008 October 16, 20:15:00
Quote
I think we should rename this threat "In praise of Nouk."
Well, what can we do if Nouk´s hairs are so much better?  ;)

Look:

Peggy gazillions poly counts freebie hair (a freebie to me is just a way to lure people to pay):
(http://www.peggyzone.com/html/images/Peggy_Fh080830_p003_gold_s.jpg)

Nouk very nice free hair (http://www.noukiesims2.net/tiny/index.php?topic=85.0):
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v13/denialalice/neenanouk.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: jilly on 2008 October 17, 19:50:55
EPIC PWNAGE  :D

(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/165/165950.jpg)

vs


(http://thumbs2.modthesims2.com/img/5/8/0/5/2/2/MTS2_buggybooz_820435_mesh-set.jpg)

http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=303300


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: autumnrose on 2008 October 17, 19:58:51
That... thing by Buntah is a ghastly eyesore. Pass the bleach, please.

Epic pwnage, indeed.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: ooglafina on 2008 October 17, 20:13:43
They don't seem to have original ideas over there at TSR do they? They seem determined to make their own versions of everything, regardless of whether something's been done or not.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: kenmtl on 2008 October 17, 20:44:22
Could be worse, it could be wicker.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2008 October 18, 00:32:28
Oh, please shuuuut up! Next thing you know, they'll be getting creative ideas from what we say... :D j/k They wouldn't know creative if it bit them in the ass...


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: JFederated on 2008 October 18, 04:05:20
Buntah's stuff does something to my brain.  Sounds like this:  BZZZZZT!  *flatlines*

She meshes or textures or exists in some dimensional plane that my human brain cannot comprehend.

WTF with the thing in the corner?!  Is it a drawer?  Is it sticking out?  Is it an oven?  Is it a dresser?  Why is it sticking out?!   And a flower neatly arranged in the wooden rocket ship from planet Blue...

I wish she was free, then her stuff would simply be divinely crazy instead of an example of paysite outrage.  Le sigh.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: kenmtl on 2008 October 18, 04:08:47
And a flower neatly arranged in the wooden rocket ship from planet Blue...

lol


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Erhama on 2008 October 18, 06:44:44
What kind of AC is that?

Is it a TSR, pay for air, air conditioner?

Is it a carpet covered one?

WHAT THE HELL IS IT?!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2008 October 18, 06:54:13
Dog puke to decorate your game with, of course.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: PrincessKoriandr on 2008 October 18, 17:24:38
Seriously, I'm still trying to figure out why I'm not blind yet after years of retina searing content from this woman.  I wonder how long my luck will hold out.  Sheesh!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: vindi on 2008 October 18, 19:37:20
Windkeeper's ugly kudos clocks, which while aren't pay are still TSR crap...
(http://www.thesimsresource.com/images/kudosset1.jpg)

(http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/5967/mts2buggybooz516506timekf7.jpg)
Vs Buggyboo's awesome and completely free alarmclocks.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: ooglafina on 2008 October 18, 19:50:23
I suppose Windkeeper's would appeal to someone's taste, like a 14 year old girl maybe, but Buggybooz are much classier. I keep running over there to get more stuff when I see these comparisons. They're bad for my downloads folder.

Those clocks on the bottom left of Windkeeper's are just poor disguises of those EA clocks. I like the idea of a retro cat clock, but I would prefer it to be in black and white, like the original.

I only have my taste to recommend me, and no skill mind you.  :'(


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SamanthaS on 2008 October 18, 21:12:13
I've been needing a wall clock that's shaped like a teapot for a retro kitchen I've been trying to finish and I'm really tired of flipping through pages and pages of round clocks at every site I go to. Windkeeper's had potential but...they're boring. And not shaped like a teapot. Next page, round. Next page, round, etc.

I should quit griping and learn how to mesh already, huh?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: mustluvcatz on 2008 October 18, 22:01:13
I actually like the darker spiky one. We had a clock like that when I was growing up and I loved that stupid clock. The day it stopped working and couldn't be revived was one of the saddest days of my life.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Millie on 2008 October 19, 01:42:41
Buggybooz FTW  ;D *does a fangurl dance*


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Lord Darcy on 2008 October 19, 02:37:33
Seriously though, pwning Buntah cannot be a great feat. Any half-decent object creator can easily pwn Buntah's crap. Comparing Buntah with Buggybooz is almost insulting to Buggybooz! :P


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: jilly on 2008 October 19, 16:26:54
Seriously though, pwning Buntah cannot be a great feat. Any half-decent object creator can easily pwn Buntah's crap. Comparing Buntah with Buggybooz is almost insulting to Buggybooz! :P

Good point  :P


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Lirael on 2008 October 20, 11:50:44
To compare with that rather horrible looking air con of Buntah's
 here is a much nicer one by Pigiepower ;D
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t13/graveyardhag/ThumbnailPNG.png)
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t13/graveyardhag/outside2.png)
It even makes noise ;)
Edit:
Link (http://www.tscexchange.com/viewtopic.php?t=954)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SamanthaS on 2008 October 20, 12:01:00
Is there a link to that air conditioner?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Lirael on 2008 October 20, 12:04:04
Post edited to add the link. :)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dragonarts on 2008 October 20, 22:44:19
More Helga pretties! (http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs34/f/2008/294/b/0/HelgaSims_Living_room_by_dragonarts.jpg)

I haven't tried it in the game yet, but the preview is gorgeous!

As opposed to this from TSR:
(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/792/792401.jpg)

The preview of this actually doesn't look too bad in the small pic, but big like this it's something that looks rather like a bunch of rectangles. Very blocky. I confess that I just grabbed the first original mesh I saw on the TSR Living Room sets page. Anyway, I just wanted to show off Helga's new set. *huggles her new download and runs off to play*


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: InsanityPrelude on 2008 October 21, 00:25:47
Rose payshit:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/technobubblegum/rosedonate0032.jpg)

Not a bad mesh, admittedly, but the textures are ugh.


Better, similar Nouk hair:
Jessica Hair (http://www.noukiesims2.net/tiny/index.php?PHPSESSID=bce00a57cf14eadf08d7f0504ea25707&topic=40.0) (I was having trouble saving the picture. Pretty sure the filename's not "index.php" :/

Textures that look like actual hair colors!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Ashbashtus on 2008 October 21, 01:57:38
 Both Nouk's mesh and texture are epic win compared to that assault on the retinas! Why do people insist that purple is the same as black? :o


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SamanthaS on 2008 October 21, 02:15:23
Post edited to add the link. :)

Thanks and thanks for linking to a site I'd never been to before. Bookmarked!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Hannahg on 2008 October 21, 02:16:42
Both Nouk's mesh and texture are epic win compared to that assault on the retinas! Why do people insist that purple is the same as black? :o

You don't know? Purple is the new black, pink is the new red, and green can be any other color ;D. Just throw some bows on the hair to cover the gaps, and you have a brand-new Peggy hair.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dignas on 2008 October 24, 07:07:57
im bit of shock from what i've read in this forum , i can see that there is no contest from helga, bruno,reginaS ,mts2 creations vs TSR's artists , vitasims, peggy and rose , i dont stand againsts the other site but coz i do appriciate creations what these artist creates .. even sometimes we see flaws and imperfections but we can always modify what makes our eyes bleed on what we see on Chaz's Amy Winehouse sim though she looks like drag queen but its what creator's eyeview of his/her creation ,shes beautiful.. no one is perfect we cant personify perfection in any ways but both paysites and freesites are good in my point of view..
 in a sims2 game .. a sim cant say if her make up makes her look like "a Bading" (in english hmm a female version of Ru Paul LOL) but what EA games programs this game to amuse us ,all i can do is dont download what i think is crappy and makes me puke .. if TSR , peggy, rose or vitasims almost made me pay their stuffs i think they pack their creations.. ehem ehemm  "good"lol.. they mastered the art of a conartist in the market place they could sell alot to consumers but not getting the quality of the product consumers want , hmm or is it conspiracy between thesim2 and the upcoming new game of thesims3? well  even if EA games creates sims4 to sims10056 .. there will still be ppl who will abuse and make paysites and will make their packaging smell nice to those who arent aware and innocent on what they pay  isnt what we get but the more they demand for an amount for their site (pocket, bank account what ever ...) there's always what we call "carma .." what they sow they will reap.. lol 
im nutral to every one , i play the same games paysite artists play and i pay the same amount of cash what they also paid to purchase the sims2 game ..  ;D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dorquemada on 2008 October 24, 08:17:46
Dude. This ain't a telegram you're writing, but a post for an e-board, so you don't have to be stingy about punctuation marks, really. Your post is painfully unreadable.  :-X


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: deelink on 2008 October 24, 11:36:19
whut?

Do I need a joint to read this?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Steerpike on 2008 October 24, 11:52:13
I'm still reeling from the use of the words 'Chaz's Amy Winehouse sim' and 'beautiful' in the same sentence.



Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: elpemmy on 2008 October 24, 12:01:53
Hurm... what I think he's trying to say, is that while there is no contest between free vs pay, its in the creators point of view whether their sim (e.g. Chaz's Amy Winehouse Sim) is beautiful or not. He/she won't download anything that makes him puke, and he considered paying Peggy etc. cause they consider their creations good or something (got cunfused at that bit lol) and then he/she said why should anyone pay when we all paid the same amount for the sims game.

I think. I might be completely wrong in this... it was kind of crazy...


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: UartigePigebarn on 2008 October 24, 12:17:21
Hurm... what I think he's trying to say, is that while there is no contest between free vs pay, its in the creators point of view whether their sim (e.g. Chaz's Amy Winehouse Sim) is beautiful or not. He/she won't download anything that makes him puke, and he considered paying Peggy etc. cause they consider their creations good or something (got cunfused at that bit lol) and then he/she said why should anyone pay when we all paid the same amount for the sims game.

I think. I might be completely wrong in this... it was kind of crazy...

Other than what you said, elpemmy, I thought that he/she/it meant that the fight against paysites were lost because they'll always be jerks around to take advantage of others. So we should just let them get away with it until 'karma' gets them. Am I the only one who got that? I'm confused.

Deelink might be right, joints are probably needed for us to comprehend the underlying meaning.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Anyerfillag on 2008 October 24, 13:11:47
a. Chaz's Amy Winehouse sim though she looks like drag queen but its what creator's eyeview of his/her creation ,shes beautiful
b. if TSR , peggy, rose or vitasims almost made me pay their stuffs i think they pack their creations.. ehem ehemm  "good"lol..
c. there will still be ppl who will abuse and make paysites and will make their packaging smell nice to those who arent aware and innocent on what they pay  isnt what we get but the more they demand for an amount for their site (pocket, bank account what ever ...)
d. here's always what we call "carma .." what they sow they will reap.. lol 
f.  paysite artists play and i pay the same amount of cash what they also paid to purchase the sims2 game ..  ;D

A. She's not beautiful - she's down right ugly and its all because she abuses drugs. She was a good looking girl when she first arrived on the scene but not anymore. I doubt she'll ever get over her addiction and lead a normal life. And Chaz can't create for shit!

B. Packaged their creations good? Sorry, but this entire thread and others like it show they can't create anything that doesn't require brain or eye bleach or a warning attached to them!

C. So you're okay with it? Sorry - but people swindling money out of others for stuff that doesn't belong to them (i.e. EULA) is far beyond wrong. And why should we pay for it, especially during the current global financial crisis?

D. So we just sit back and wait? Oh please ::) Nothing will happen if we don't take action, seeing as EA seem to be siding with the paysites (i.e. The Sims Store) more and more.

E. Paysite artists do not play - they create to get money. If they played, where would they find the time to help us spam out Ugly Paysite Creations thread with their MSPaint Floodfill?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Tchannie on 2008 October 24, 16:13:55
What I got from the post, and I may be wrong and you may be right, was, "I paid every bit as much money as those sucky paysite artists for the game. I don't really want to pay for CC. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and if you don't think it's beautiful, don't bother downloading it as nobody's forcing you to; I certainly don't. Chaz may think his Amy Winehouse sim is beautiful, and fine by him, but I don't think it's beautiful and I won't download it. Paysite artists, such as Peggy, Raon, Vita, etc, have discovered a way of conning people out of their money by making their items seem better than they are, and I don't think we should give in the fight, but there will always be paysites until karma reigns supreme, and I think it's probably best to keep the fight going until that happens, but I'm not entirely sure that WE will be the victors by force or by happenstance."
But who knows what they said.

I enjoyed looking through this thread, because there are some seriously beautiful things in here. However, I thought the purpose of the thread was to compare very similar pay and free items? Like Redisenchanted said on the first page: "I've always thought we should have some side by side comparisons of similar free and pay content," the optimum word being "similar". There are some excellent examples of this in the thread, admittedly; the Parisian flats, the swimsuits a few pages back, the Rose/Nouk plait comparison, Pirate Jenny's post on page 11 and Calalily's post on the first page.
However, it is NOT a fair comparison if you find a random ugly hair and then put a random Nouk or Helga hair next to it that is extremely different in style from the picture depicted. People seem to have been doing this as a lazy way out, and whilst the answer is, "yes, those Helga/Nouk hairs are far prettier than the other hair", you can't compare two entirely non-similar styles in a thread which the purpose of is to find similar creations for free.

Feel free to spork me or something. It's just something that's irritated me from about page 15 in this thread. Can't fault a girl for her opinions when it's relevant to the thread purpose, yes? ;)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Devilfish on 2008 October 24, 16:32:20
Feel free to spork me or something. It's just something that's irritated me from about page 15 in this thread. Can't fault a girl for her opinions when it's relevant to the thread purpose, yes? ;)

No sporking, I agree completely. Just because they're not playing by the rules doesn't mean we shouldn't  ;)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Rissa on 2008 October 24, 16:52:34
Tchan, that was what i was thinking from the begining, but was hesitant to say. This thread should not necessarily show some ugly things compared to shiny free things, this way it could be turned around by paysite lovers to compare shiny pay things with crappy free ones (no need to neglect that, they really exist, crappy free as well as nice pay sets). The purpose should be to give alternatives - compare Buggybooz' kitchen with one that has a similar style but is pay, find a free alternative for the holy simoly tranquility kitchen etc. Same with hair - find very similar styles in pay and free. If the two items are indeed the same style might be in the eye of the beholder(?) every now and then, but at least we can try to find items as similat to each other as possible, only this way the goal (to tell people that there are free alternatives) can be met.

The problem I had with some of the pics shown here in addition to the things said by Tchan is that sometimes very old things from the beginning of meshing (and for example hairtexturing) have been compared to pretty new stuff, and although the style might be similar nobody might bother getting a sub just because of that one very old set, and why do you think did Rose make her first 15 paysets into "gifts"? Because nobody would spend money for them anymore.
Also comparing some object set to a set by Buntah, a hairstyle to a set by Chaz cannot be effective because we all know for sure that there are better things out there.

And to have something to compare:

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h34/Carisssa_2006/hairmesh0105a.jpg)
Hairstyle by Peggy

vs

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h34/Carisssa_2006/XMS_Flora_MeshHair087B.jpg)
Hairstyle by Flora (Yes, XM is still a pseudo-paysite, but I still adore their hair, and they are still saying they want to release their sets for free, and don't forget that Helga had a payset, too, and is now loved by everyone...)

One is pretty new, one was made a year ago, but they are that similar to each other that time doesn't matter.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 October 24, 17:23:50
Hairstyle by Flora (Yes, XM is still a pseudo-paysite, but I still adore their hair, and they are still saying they want to release their sets for free, and don't forget that Helga had a payset, too, and is now loved by everyone...)

Because Helga is free.  Helga doesn't have any paysets.  That's why she's now loved by everyone.

As an actual freesite comparison to those two paysite hairs, cool sims:

(http://i34.tinypic.com/24l3kli.jpg)

Available on page 3 (http://web.coolsims.net/?show=home)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Rissa on 2008 October 24, 18:28:04
Agreed ;) Just thought I'd point it out because someone said some pages ago that Helga never was pay which just isn't true...

Now I have a question: is this thread about
- comparing items that are free to items you'd have to pay for
or
- comparing items from free sites with items from paysites, no matter if the item in question is free or pay?

I always thought it's the first. That this thread is about comparing one free thing to a similar (in looks and (seem-to-be-) quality) pay item. I know that some people don't download from sites that have paysets, just because of their principles, and for these I'm glad about every alternative. But for all others IMHO everything that's free, no matter where it is published, should be considered.
So nobody needs to pay for the XMSims hair, but to have exactly the same style at Peggysims you'd need to pay. While the CS style is indeed similar it's not as similar to the pay hair as the XM hair is.

Well, enough said. It's just my own opinion, ignore it, bash it or whatever you want to do. I just thought I'd point it out.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Chinchillagrl on 2008 October 24, 20:26:12
Pretty. I'd never seen that sims-site Cala. ;)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2008 October 24, 20:42:27
I came away from reading some of this wanting a stiff drink, a fat joint and lots of munchies, but that's just me on a Friday arriving late. Sure, the creators like Chaz think their shit is gorgeous but that's because he's not had his prescription for eyeglasses checked. And no, no one is forcing us to pay for downloads, but then again; for this game that doesn't belong to any of the custom content creators, no one should have to pay for the downloads. I'd paste up Pescado's macro about it, but too lazy to open botophukkit.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: oolongteadrinker on 2008 October 24, 22:06:44
Hairstyle by Flora (Yes, XM is still a pseudo-paysite, but I still adore their hair, and they are still saying they want to release their sets for free, and don't forget that Helga had a payset, too, and is now loved by everyone...)

Because Helga is free.  Helga doesn't have any paysets.  That's why she's now loved by everyone.

As an actual freesite comparison to those two paysite hairs, cool sims:

Calalily ftw!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Anyerfillag on 2008 October 24, 23:14:58
I came away from reading some of this wanting a stiff drink, a fat joint and lots of munchies, but that's just me on a Friday arriving late.

That would also have been me if it wasn't for a bunch of tossers who started a fight so bad they called in two riot police vans :o It happened so damn quick; one moment I'm at the bar next there's all sort of noises and mayhem from outside. They closed the bar at 11.15pm (its now 12.15pm) just because of that one fight!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 October 25, 02:44:56
Now I have a question: is this thread about
- comparing items that are free to items you'd have to pay for
or
- comparing items from free sites with items from paysites, no matter if the item in question is free or pay?

I always thought it's the first. That this thread is about comparing one free thing to a similar (in looks and (seem-to-be-) quality) pay item. I know that some people don't download from sites that have paysets, just because of their principles, and for these I'm glad about every alternative. But for all others IMHO everything that's free, no matter where it is published, should be considered.
So nobody needs to pay for the XMSims hair, but to have exactly the same style at Peggysims you'd need to pay. While the CS style is indeed similar it's not as similar to the pay hair as the XM hair is.

Second one, although it's more fair to compare an item that is actually pay right now on a paysite to a freesite item.  But since paysites aren't always the most creative, sometimes that's not possible.  And it should be the second one for a variety of reasons:

1. I wouldn't want to be lumped into the same group as a paysite, whether it was one pay file or fifty thousand pay files.  I don't think it sends the right message if we actually want paying for content to be stopped.  We're sending the message that they can all have a couple of payfiles - and I'm sure my site visitors would take a very dim view of me setting up donation files even if only a couple. It also denigrates the totally free site - what is the point in being totally free if you're not getting the exclusive kudos of being free - might as well put up a couple of donation files, and we're back where we started.

2. Those free things are put there to lure people into paying. They're not there as a kindness, but as a lure to make you pay.

3. We're driving traffic to paysites (with people who might pay instead of using the booty) rather than to freesites. 

Pretty. I'd never seen that sims-site Cala. ;)

I know - isn't it wonderful.  :-*


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2008 October 25, 04:08:01
TSR has free items, but most of the ones I've seen are free recolours of a pay mesh. Not very kind at all. You can get the meshes from the Booty, sure, but you still have to muck around trying to find decent recolours on their disorganized search engine. That place is such a mishmash of the frightening and the not so bad that my mind shorts out after one page.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: redisenchanted on 2008 October 25, 16:55:24
What I was thinking when I started this thread was that we would take a pay item (not free items from paysites) and compare it to a similar free item from a free site. The pay item doesn't even need to be awful, just an item that has an equal or better free counterpart. No free Peggy, TSR or other paysites free items qualify as free alternatives or crappy examples IMO. It's like they don't exist. In TSR's case, they can always become pay later and with Peggy or others, the free items only exist to advertise the pay items.

It's a little different with XM sims though. They remain technically a paysite though I think it's more sloppiness than to lure subscribers. They stopped creating donation files more than 2 years ago, they promised to release all those files and began to, but never finished. They started releasing things to Simmer Valley (which you became a part of if you subscribed or uploaded a creation) first, then a month or so later to everyone else, though that seems to have stopped now. They are a good alternative to Peggy, even if they still have a handful of lame object and clothing pay sets. I can't believe anyone subscribes with the thought of getting those particular items. I don't have a problem with using them as free alternatives, but I understand the argument against it.



Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: jilly on 2008 October 27, 02:52:42
This fits:

(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/tmp/778/778477.jpg)

vs

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q186/jilly4/noukshair.jpg)

Yay! http://www.noukiesims2.net/tiny/index.php?PHPSESSID=88da8cb341ae4a1af606d68d7d247ec9&topic=42.0


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Sigmund on 2008 October 28, 04:05:56
Okay, now hopefully I'm doing this right... *looks around*

Very pretty candles from MTS2 that I use constantly:
(http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/4582/testpicos4.th.jpg) (http://img46.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testpicos4.jpg)(http://img46.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif) (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

And these candles from TSR:
(http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/9915/testpic2em3.th.jpg) (http://img510.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testpic2em3.jpg)(http://img510.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif) (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

I'm crossing my fingers that I posted these pictures correctly...


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 October 28, 04:34:41
Mmmmm. I love buggybooz' candle set. Those other ones are weird. Are they supposed to be striped?  ???


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Erhama on 2008 October 28, 12:01:22
(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/tmp/797/797336.jpg)
Crap wannabe windows from Spaik, wannabe due to copying Marylou's idea.

(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff298/erhama1995/s.gif)(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff298/erhama1995/das.gif)(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff298/erhama1995/getimage.gif)
Better, much more expanded(Doors and Windows) for all wall types and centered options and uses the repository technique :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Devilfish on 2008 October 28, 12:16:54
Okay, now hopefully I'm doing this right... *looks around*

Very pretty candles from MTS2 that I use constantly:

Oh, I hadn't seen those before! Very nice, thanks for posting them! The other... I had seen. Meh.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2008 October 28, 13:31:30
Heck, even my candles look better than the pay and they're just recolours/resizes of the eaxis holiday candle.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 October 28, 18:59:26
I have your candles, Soggy, and I like them lots!  :-*  ;D Those TSR ones aren't cutting it, not one bit.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Devilfish on 2008 October 28, 19:48:35
I'm crossing my fingers that I posted these pictures correctly...

Oh, and yes you did, good pirate. Have a cookie  ;D

Remember, for future reference, hotlinking from paysites is allowed and encouraged.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: jilly on 2008 October 28, 20:16:29
Fail Caprese by SA99

(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/tmp/368/368829.jpg)


OMNOMNOM-worthy sandwiches from mts2

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q186/jilly4/mmm.jpg)

http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=188868


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: vindi on 2008 October 28, 20:45:38
Oh god, I read that as corpse salad.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Devilfish on 2008 October 28, 20:47:22
Oh god, I read that as corpse salad.

 :D

Although judging from that picture, that's not even too far off.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Beth on 2008 October 29, 01:10:20
Fail Caprese by SA99

*snip*

Looks like someone just plonked a pile of red and white golfballs on a plate and covered them wilth mold.

Ew.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: deelink on 2008 October 29, 03:30:00
The food at TSR is shockingly bad. And I agree Jilly, those sandwiches from bibid are AWESOME! nomnom indeed :P


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Arghyle on 2008 October 29, 18:08:24
Simal - yikes.

(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk257/yarrrghyle/simalfug.jpg)

And the lovely JustSims

(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk257/yarrrghyle/justsims.jpg)

Simal's is fairly new - hope the date's alright on the JustSims. 


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: gayle_afcb on 2008 October 29, 18:58:25
Oh yuk that top one looks like the cheese and broccoli pasta I just ate  :-\


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: fway on 2008 November 01, 10:06:47
Oh lookie here, more blatant ripoffs!


(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/tmp/797/797597.jpg)
When I saw these, I remember before seeing a much more beautiful version of these by Tiggerypum at MTS2, which is currently down.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Rose on 2008 November 01, 15:59:25
Do you mean these (http://linna.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=249704) booted bottoms by migamoo?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SeaHag on 2008 November 01, 23:19:54
Do you mean these (http://linna.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=249704) booted bottoms by migamoo?

No, Mr Boddy probably means these (http://linna.modthesims2.com/download.php?t=221854):

(http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x195/TheRain77/MTS2_tiggerypum_474665_afboots3.jpg)





Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: jilly on 2008 November 02, 11:00:12
Both of those are a lot better than the tsr ones  :P


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Devilfish on 2008 November 02, 14:20:31
Both of those are a lot better than the tsr ones  :P

Please excuse me while I topple over from surprise  ;D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: jilly on 2008 November 02, 16:25:55
Both of those are a lot better than the tsr ones  :P

Please excuse me while I topple over from surprise  ;D

The first time I glanced at the T$R ones I thought "ARE THOSE GIANT WORMS EATING HER FEET??
 :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SeaHag on 2008 November 02, 22:57:59
Even if we I ignore the appearance of the TSR version of the boots (which I personally don't find all that bad) what the hell is going on with the seams on the pants?  Just how thick is the thread to get stitching like that?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: boilinthebag on 2008 November 03, 15:02:17
 :o  I just noticed the 'caprese salad' - i thought the red objects were meat balls!  How do you grow hexagonal tomatoes, are TSR involved in genetically modifying food as well as brain-washing??


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Safety Pins on 2008 November 03, 16:13:25
WAIT WAIT WAIT.
Those were tomatoes?
I actually did not know that.

EDIT: So there I was on modthesims2, looking for halloween-ish stuff (makin' a theme town) and found some pretty great stuff. Foolishly, I thought
"Hey, WTH, i'll go see if there's anything good on TSR...any paystuff I'll nab from the booty, yay butthurt!"

Needless to say, they oughta put a label on that site that says "Eyebleach Required Upon Entry." So much shitty content, it's really unbelievable.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Devilfish on 2008 November 04, 14:08:39
I've learned my lesson.
I admit I came here with a 'OMG free stuff' mentality and started downloading like mad. I regretted that when I had to do a painstakingly slow clean-out of my 40.000+ downloads to eliminate the crap that was trying to kill my poor computer, looked aweful in no-photoshop conditions or just borked the game. I probably still have some pay stuff in there, but I only go to the booty anymore if I really need a very specialised item for a story. And I usually throw it out again when I'm done with it.

That's the great thing about the booty. The 'yay free stuff' people really burn their hands on it. Good way to start realising we're not just a bunch of meanies who want free swag.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Elphaba on 2008 November 06, 12:00:52
What an idiot I was to read through all this at work (Yes, all 62 pages, Elphaba bored and waiting for Email)
The INSTANT I get home I have to dig out this thread again and go on a downloading spree. Could be worse, at least I've already got all of Nouk, Helga and Adele in my downloads folder so that'll save a couple of hours...


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: jilly on 2008 November 06, 12:06:34
Eww, teen hooker undies  >:(

(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/791/791267.jpg)

Cute ones from Bruno  :D

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q186/jilly4/bruno.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 November 06, 15:22:53
What an idiot I was to read through all this at work (Yes, all 62 pages, Elphaba bored and waiting for Email)
The INSTANT I get home I have to dig out this thread again and go on a downloading spree. Could be worse, at least I've already got all of Nouk, Helga and Adele in my downloads folder so that'll save a couple of hours...

This site is sooooo bad for your downloads folder - not the booty - but all the free stuff. All the nice stuffies brought right to your door with people wanting you to download it.  You will require an iron clad will.  :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Devilfish on 2008 November 06, 15:33:06
You will require an iron clad will.  :D

Do not have  :P

On the bright side, when I hit 100.000 downloads I'm having a party. Check back tomorrow.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 November 06, 18:57:34
Elphaba, huh? That's really weird. I just made a Sim in bodyshop last night that bears remarkable resemblance to the Elphaba (The chin in profile could slice a salami) . I named her Fae.  :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Devilfish on 2008 November 07, 02:33:07
Elphaba, huh? That's really weird. I just made a Sim in bodyshop last night that bears remarkable resemblance to the Elphaba (The chin in profile could slice a salami) . I named her Fae.  :D

Book or broadway? I'd love to see her either way. It's just that I made an Elphaba sim once and she was 'romance' sim (raging slutbag). I'm curious how other people treat their Elphaba/Fiero/Nasarose sims...

God I sound like a damn fangirl  :P


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: crunk on 2008 November 07, 03:00:13
I bought Son of a Witch a couple weeks ago and read it on a slow weekend at work. I hate the Wizard of Oz movie, but liked Baum's books. I'm now planning on running to the bookstore next payday and picking up Wicked and whatever other books I can find that are in the series.

I can totally picture Elphaba as a popularity sim with lots of mean, but I've only read about her after her death, so that might change.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Devilfish on 2008 November 07, 03:30:40
I adore Gregory Maguire, he's really an example for me and I respect what he does with his work. Although I did find "Wicked" a bit too filthy, too far removed from the original. It shocked the reader just for the fun of shocking them, which I think is cheap. That being said, he did what I've always wanted to do; turn fairytales upside down and make them into the naturalistic, 'condition humaine' nightmares the really are.

How they managed to take so much grit and sleazy nightmare fantasies and turn it into a sacharine broadway song-and-dance festival that would make Walt Disney himself puke is beyond me  ::)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Elphaba on 2008 November 07, 09:43:23
Elphaba, huh? That's really weird. I just made a Sim in bodyshop last night that bears remarkable resemblance to the Elphaba (The chin in profile could slice a salami) . I named her Fae.  :D

Book or broadway? I'd love to see her either way. It's just that I made an Elphaba sim once and she was 'romance' sim (raging slutbag). I'm curious how other people treat their Elphaba/Fiero/Nasarose sims...

God I sound like a damn fangirl  :P

You should have called her Fabala, I think that's a gorgeous nickname, maybe I should have called myself that as well and give all the book readers a little squee when they recognise it...
Have genuinely lost count of the amount of times I've seen it on the West end. And will be borrowing 'A Lion among men' as soon as possible from my friend (next in the series, out in hardback, go enjoy!)

I think it would be a tad cruel to make her a popularity sim seeing as everyone's scared of her, she'd never get any friends and be in failure all the time. Or maybe that's appropriate... Pleasure might work though.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Ashbashtus on 2008 November 07, 12:17:23
I fangurl Gregory Maguire! I love Wicked and its sequel. I've read all of his "twist on fairy tales" and think he's just so gifted. What can I say? I loved the dirtiness and grittyness of Wicked. I also loved the musical, but they're just so different from each other, I can't compare them.

ETA: A Lion Among Men? When was that one released?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: crunk on 2008 November 07, 14:23:23
Lion came out in October, by the looks. As far as the popularity goes, haven't you ever had one that rolled the "make x number of enemies" want? :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Elphaba on 2008 November 07, 14:39:44
make x number of enemies? I didn't know you could get that want! Why have my evil sims always feared making enemies then? *smoulders jealousy because having that want would be really cool*


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Devilfish on 2008 November 07, 15:12:54
You can reroll your wants as much as you like with the insimenator. If it's there and you're patient enough, it'll come up eventually. I didn't know it existed either, it sounds like a good one! Well, not really, but you know what I mean  ;D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Soapinha on 2008 November 07, 16:32:00
What an idiot I was to read through all this at work (Yes, all 62 pages, Elphaba bored and waiting for Email)
Same here. Except I'm stuck at home recovering from surgery - and my downoads foder has definitely become more bloated. But, I've been deleting a ton of crap I don't use anyway, so it evens out. :P


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 November 07, 22:03:50
Book or broadway? I'd love to see her either way.

Book. The one on Broadway (I don't know how many actresses there've been, but I mean Idina Menzel) doesn't have much for a nose or chin, in my opinion. But my Sim doesn't have the hair that I'd like, either, so...
I'll get back to you on the pic, though.

Although I did find "Wicked" a bit too filthy, too far removed from the original. It shocked the reader just for the fun of shocking them, which I think is cheap.

I don't know, I'm not sure that he did that for shock. I think that he needed it to be known that this is not the glamorous Oz everyone has come to know and love, and any kind of censorship (even self-censorship) would have taken away from that concept. Personally, I found Mrs. Maddingly and her cats (in Lost) to be a lot more shocking than anything put forth in Wicked.

You should have called her Fabala, I think that's a gorgeous nickname

Yes, I think it's rather pretty, too. But my Sim isn't really that good-looking. Oh, she's pretty in her own way, like Elphaba, but she's really more of a Fae.

I think it would be a tad cruel to make her a popularity sim seeing as everyone's scared of her, she'd never get any friends and be in failure all the time. Or maybe that's appropriate... Pleasure might work though.

I don't think that she's a popularity person. She had friends, but it wasn't such a big deal to her that she would, say, feel a desire to go out and make 20 friends, like a popularity Sim. If I had to pick, I would make her a knowledge Sim, seeing as how she was Doctor Dillamond's assistant and then her research with the Grimmerie. Also, all the work of putting wings on the snow monkeys. However, some of the popularity Sims seem to care more about making friends with animals, so I guess that could work...

As far as the popularity goes, haven't you ever had one that rolled the "make x number of enemies" want? :D

I don't know about making enemies. She never seemed to give a damn whether she made friends or enemies, it was really more about the individual person and whether or not she liked him/her (like Avaric).


So, uh, hey, guys, does this mean we get to start our own Maguire book club?  :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Devilfish on 2008 November 07, 22:16:27
Although I did find "Wicked" a bit too filthy, too far removed from the original. It shocked the reader just for the fun of shocking them, which I think is cheap.

I don't know, I'm not sure that he did that for shock. I think that he needed it to be known that this is not the glamorous Oz everyone has come to know and love, and any kind of censorship (even self-censorship) would have taken away from that concept. Personally, I found Mrs. Maddingly and her cats (in Lost) to be a lot more shocking than anything put forth in Wicked.

Well I obviously don't know what he intended when he wrote the filthier passages, but to me they felt overdone. They were in the way, big ugly things I had to squirm past to get back to the story I enjoyed. The story itself, the turns and twists, the style and the way the characters interact (plus a completely unlikeable main character, but that's probably just me) are more than enough to convey that this is not the sacharine disney version of Oz. Really, I could've done without the image of a preacher getting kicked in the ass and shitting himself.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Ashbashtus on 2008 November 07, 23:01:47
Although I did find "Wicked" a bit too filthy, too far removed from the original. It shocked the reader just for the fun of shocking them, which I think is cheap.

I don't know, I'm not sure that he did that for shock. I think that he needed it to be known that this is not the glamorous Oz everyone has come to know and love, and any kind of censorship (even self-censorship) would have taken away from that concept. Personally, I found Mrs. Maddingly and her cats (in Lost) to be a lot more shocking than anything put forth in Wicked.

Well I obviously don't know what he intended when he wrote the filthier passages, but to me they felt overdone. They were in the way, big ugly things I had to squirm past to get back to the story I enjoyed. The story itself, the turns and twists, the style and the way the characters interact (plus a completely unlikeable main character, but that's probably just me) are more than enough to convey that this is not the sacharine disney version of Oz. Really, I could've done without the image of a preacher getting kicked in the ass and shitting himself.

I dunno..I felt that the image of the double-peened puppet having sex with the mother and daughter puppet in the TimeClock was more disturbing ;)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 November 08, 00:33:01
Although I did find "Wicked" a bit too filthy, too far removed from the original. It shocked the reader just for the fun of shocking them, which I think is cheap.

I don't know, I'm not sure that he did that for shock. I think that he needed it to be known that this is not the glamorous Oz everyone has come to know and love, and any kind of censorship (even self-censorship) would have taken away from that concept. Personally, I found Mrs. Maddingly and her cats (in Lost) to be a lot more shocking than anything put forth in Wicked.
Well I obviously don't know what he intended when he wrote the filthier passages, but to me they felt overdone. They were in the way, big ugly things I had to squirm past to get back to the story I enjoyed. The story itself, the turns and twists, the style and the way the characters interact (plus a completely unlikeable main character, but that's probably just me) are more than enough to convey that this is not the sacharine disney version of Oz. Really, I could've done without the image of a preacher getting kicked in the ass and shitting himself.
I dunno..I felt that the image of the double-peened puppet having sex with the mother and daughter puppet in the TimeClock was more disturbing ;)

Slightly shocking, yes - perhaps I'm just too desensitized! But I thought that these things really added to the book. Had they not been there, would Elphaba seem more evil or less evil? It makes me sympathize more with her, that she was brought up in such a world, and respect her more because she still managed to question what was right and wrong, evil and not, as opposed to merely accepting it as normal and questioning nothing. Also, the more rude bits really go a lot further toward shattering the preconceived notion that she was the blight on Oz, or the wicked one, the one in the wrong.
If you take out the details, and just say that Frex was met with scorn among his followers, would you know better or worse the scope of what he deemed his 'failure' and why he was the kind of father he was to Elphaba? And then, in turn, would that make Elphaba more or less of a rich character? And after that, how would that have effected Liir, and changed Son of a Witch? All the little things, crude as they are, really set the stage for the whole story. Compare it to a tapestry missing a color, or a theatrical scene missing a prop, or whatever metaphor or simile fits the bill, but I think it made the book all the better, and I really think that it would never have been half as successful without the gorey details. Granted, a bit of that success can be attributed to those strange people out there who are attracted to the mere fucked-uppedness of things, but I guess that's only to be expected.


Okay, I took some pictures of my Simmie in game. I'm going to do a few tweaks; I'm searching for better skin, eyes, and hair, but this is what I've got at the moment:
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f114/dusdeedawn/Fae3.jpg)(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f114/dusdeedawn/Fae1.jpg)(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f114/dusdeedawn/Fae5.jpg)
I'm not sure if I want to put a witch's hat on her or not, but she definitely needs better hair.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: jilly on 2008 November 08, 11:32:45
Sorry for the re-rail, but I thought this was necessary.  :D

(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/799/799529.jpg)

vs


(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q186/jilly4/toddlers.jpg)


Available here! (http://linna.modthesims2.com/download.php?t=305648)
:D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Devilfish on 2008 November 08, 14:08:25
Hah, thanks jilly!  :D Yeah, we sort of went off on a tangent there. It's nice to meet other Maguire fans, since his books weren't translated in my language and nobody here knows about them. I cannot stand evi, I really can't. Every time I hear that name I get an urge to call the cops.
Those collars on the lower two shirts look plastic and the sleeves seem to be slowly squeezing their hand off. Maybe that's why they're all screaming :-\

Dusdeedawn, that's is exactly how I pictured her! I actually like the hair a lot (where did you get it?) and the skin is green without being that cartoony emerald from the show and the book, or a Maxis alien. It makes her look... tired, I guess. It fits her. The nose and chin are spot on if you ask me. If I promise you a big e-hug and imaginary rum if you put her up for download, would that technically make you a paysite?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Lady_Grace on 2008 November 08, 14:29:34
Eww, teen hooker undies  >:(

(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/791/791267.jpg)

Cute ones from Bruno  :D

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q186/jilly4/bruno.jpg)

Oh shit.. what does it say about me when I tell you that I used to wear undies like that as a teen..
I suppose I'm a dirty pirate hooker.  ;D

L_G


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Devilfish on 2008 November 08, 15:07:31
Lady Grace, you're not supposed to quote pictures I think.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 November 08, 17:05:27
Devilfish, the hair is a (mumble mumble) recolor by Rissa. (http://rissa-styles.tevalon.de/) Let me see what I can about putting her up.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Safety Pins on 2008 November 08, 17:15:06
Evi's toddlers give me the willies. :(


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: pickles on 2008 November 08, 17:53:09
Lady Grace, please change your dragons m'dear!

/me draws your attention to the shoutbox

Quote
PAYSITES: Now more destroy-worthy than America!
Still Making TSR Cry!
DEATH TO CALALILY!
USE OF TINYURL OR SIMILAR TO HIDE THOSE STUPID DRAGON URLS FROM ADBLOCK WILL BE MADE A BANNABLE OFFENSE!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Erhama on 2008 November 10, 00:42:19
Blech, disgusting pay wannabe crap from TSR

(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/tmp/803/803942.jpg)
http://www.thesimsresource.com/downloads/sims2/lots/apartment/803942/

Beautiful, hardly worked on lot from Black0rchid
(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff298/erhama1995/MTS2_Black0rchid_649693_amsterdam1.jpg)
http://linna.modthesims2.com/download.php?t=254641

;D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Devilfish on 2008 November 10, 13:30:50
It's really weird. I've been two Amsterdam a couple of times and it feels like I actually remember walking in that second picture. I seem to recognise that street.

I had a bad LSD trip too, so maybe that's why the first one looks familiar as well  :-\


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Anyerfillag on 2008 November 10, 15:07:46
That second lot is gorgeous and must be in my game a.s.a.p!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Erhama on 2008 November 10, 23:29:54
It's really weird. I've been two Amsterdam a couple of times and it feels like I actually remember walking in that second picture. I seem to recognise that street.

I had a bad LSD trip too, so maybe that's why the first one looks familiar as well  :-\
The second one is an actual place in Amsterdam.

As Black0rchid noted in her upload:
http://www.amsterdam.info/


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Devilfish on 2008 November 11, 01:49:50
Ah, that explains it. I love Amsterdam, now I want to go back  ;D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Anouk on 2008 November 11, 02:32:43
I live near Amsterdam. The 3 million McDonalds and H&M's will get you lost, they're on every corner.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: ChaosInAMinor on 2008 November 11, 09:29:48
Sounds like San Francisco, except here it's the 3 million Walgreens and Starbucks. :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: jilly on 2008 November 12, 01:42:54
Here there are a trillion 7-11s and strip malls  :P


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: heartless on 2008 November 12, 03:13:27
Free stuff rules over everything, even EAxis content in my humble opinion. Whenever I see an Enayla skin compared to a base-game default skin, I get a little pissed that the makers of Sims couldn't hire some decent artists to at least make the sims look cartoonlike/realistic, instead of straight-up cartoonlike.
Anyway, I found a horrific ponytail on simsconnection that looks somewhat like a gorgeous Nouk hair I have in my game only horrific. I was going to post pictures, but I didn't know if someone already posted it (It's been weeks since I've seen the earlier pages and I don't remember).
Permission to show glory of Nouk next to failures of simsconnection?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: keirra on 2008 November 12, 04:01:40
I grant you permission.  ;D

Next time, just do it. Pescado is the only mod here, and he rarely shows up.  :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: heartless on 2008 November 12, 07:17:14
Prepare to be blown away by the awfulness of this first one:
(http://www.simsconnection.com/simsfiles/screenshots/midsummericon.jpg)
Yeah, it looks big and fluffy, but I deleted it within five seconds of seeing it in-game after downloading it from the booty to test it out. It looks like the ponytail of someone with severe balding issues. Not big or fluffy at all. I suppose it might be useful for a sims story about alopecia I guess.
Now, prepare to be overjoyed by the awesomeness of this free Nouk hair that is much more realistic:
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b33/nVoxhewson/yum.jpg)
This one is beautiful in-game, I might add. I love it.
And you can find it here: http://modthesims2.com/download.php?t=235994


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: oolongteadrinker on 2008 November 12, 19:45:02
Prepare to be blown away by the awfulness of this first one:

Yeah, it looks big and fluffy, but I deleted it within five seconds of seeing it in-game after downloading it from the booty to test it out. It looks like the ponytail of someone with severe balding issues. Not big or fluffy at all. I suppose it might be useful for a sims story about alopecia I guess.

I've done this in the past. What's most frustrating is the amount of orphans it leaves behind, and the hassle it takes to delete them if they werent' sorted in their own folders to begin with.  I'm sure I still have dozens of unwanted paycrap recolors floating in limbo. I once saw a post of a pay creator griping that if we hate their stuff so much, why do we download it? Heh. Little do they know. I almost felt bad for that person.

Would they be surprised? Things like seeing the sky through a sim skull because of a certain hair mesh. That's a cause for concern. Or at least the trash icon.

Anyway, I'm a bit surprised that that Nouk ponytail escaped my notice. (yoink)





Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: heartless on 2008 November 12, 20:58:51
Yeah, all I did was download one recolor of it, because I figured that it wouldn't be very high quality.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SamanthaS on 2008 November 13, 03:09:13
I got all het up in the Cyclonesue thread about Windkeeper's awnings and wishing there was a free equivalent. Mustluvcatz gave me a link to some free awnings that are AWESOME! And BETTER! Behold:

Windkeeper's failsauce in game:
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x283/lucyvanklinken/Sims2/Bewitchedfront.jpg)

Notice how you can't see hardly any of the awning because of the roof? I thought that was just something I was going to have to live with, but NO!

cat3cm's wonderfulness check it:
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x283/lucyvanklinken/Sims2/newawningsrock.jpg)

Same house, same roof, same roof pitch and voila! Awnings you can see more than just the tip of! Yay! (In case you haven't guessed, I'm flailing around like Tabby's kermit avatar.)

Also, the door in the first pic is from Windkeeper's Long Island set and the door in the second pic is Rebecah's from MTS2. The garage door in the first pic is Windkeeper's flat garage door with some payset recolor (Shakeshaft? Cashcraft? I don't know) and I've since changed it for a free one from MTS2 as well, I just didn't have a pic of it. I am Windkeeper free and I love it.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: mustluvcatz on 2008 November 13, 04:35:19
Ahem....Samantha forgot to mention one thing....

You can find cat's awnings on TSR. They're free there, but since TSR is a pay-site that is from "Do Not Want Land"...the link I gave her was for Sim Estates 2, which is free, free, free!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SamanthaS on 2008 November 13, 05:55:30
Poo.  :-*

As long as that file is free on Sim Estates 2 I am willfully ignoring the fact that it's on TSR (it is free there right?). In other words, lalalalaIcan'thearyou :P

At any rate, I'm not putting Windkeeper's stuff back in my game.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SamanthaS on 2008 November 13, 13:00:55
Sims Design Avenue used to be Caravan Sims (I think) so, they've been paysite for a long time. I doubt talking to them now would do any good.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 November 13, 14:35:20
Edit: DARN! My worshiping of new found site has gone out the window when I found her 'donation' section. Can someone smarter than me please explain a few things to this creator so I can go back to worshiping...

Nothing will be explained - long term paysite owner.  Perhaps you should remove the free ad you've given her in lieu of the following freesite downloads:

There used to be Missing Studios - but they've removed a lot of their downloads. Abstract Simmer still has foodz downloads at MTS2 though.

(http://i36.tinypic.com/33jsqki.jpg)

French toast by AbstractSimmer (http://nene.modthesims2.com/download.php?t=217665)

(http://i35.tinypic.com/10qcewp.jpg)

Profiteroles from MaryLou (http://nene.modthesims2.com/download.php?t=233284)

(http://i36.tinypic.com/2nrezbm.jpg)

Holiday cakes by Fireflies (http://nene.modthesims2.com/download.php?t=257988)

(http://i38.tinypic.com/fejcqs.jpg)

French pastries by bibidoublezero (http://nene.modthesims2.com/download.php?t=208802)

(http://i34.tinypic.com/14tagx.jpg)

Doughnuts by AbstractSimmer (http://nene.modthesims2.com/download.php?t=239086)

(http://i35.tinypic.com/212wxg9.jpg)

Nectarine tarlet by Morague (http://nene.modthesims2.com/download.php?t=237172)

(http://i33.tinypic.com/dlp6c3.jpg)

Pasticcini by sims2cri (http://nene.modthesims2.com/download.php?t=242380)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Devilfish on 2008 November 13, 15:27:25
Found something just now that's begging for a comparison so hope this works (just to clarify, hotlinking from paysites good thing, yes?)

Hotlinking from paysites is good and encouraged. But yes, Caravan Sims morphed into Sims Design Avenue since there weren't a whole lot of caravans to be had. Pretty straightforward. Not so worship-worthy either. I've seen what they do and I've seen it done better.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Elphaba on 2008 November 13, 15:41:31
Ad removed...
...but my heart is broken  :'(
You see paysites? You see how you hurt a poor little simmer so...


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Anyerfillag on 2008 November 13, 18:12:32
(http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/1680/803574yh5.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
Arcadia - for women by zvaella (http://www.thesimsresource.com/downloads/sims2/sets/clothing/803574/)
vs.

(http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/2076/85862616yo0cg7.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
6 PJs by Ninika (http://nene.modthesims2.com/download.php?t=295363)

The first looks okay as a smaller image, but when you enlarge it its obvious someone went crazy with the bump-mapping ::)

The second, is free and looks so much better then the TSR creation.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Devilfish on 2008 November 13, 18:29:27
The first one looks sort of okay, but I wouldn't go through the trouble of downloading it. And if going to the booty, finding the right set and clicking it is too much effort, I'm certainly not going to hand over money to have it.  ::)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 November 14, 00:04:59
Yum. I love Ninika's undies. Oh. Um...  :-[ That's not what I meant!  ;D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: redisenchanted on 2008 November 15, 15:24:28
Here's an entire category pwnage.

The ever creepy evi from TSR whose "all about children" byline makes me ill:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/jmtmom/796014.jpg)
These are apparently "tough girls."

vs wholesome, cute kids clothes by fakepeeps at MTS2: http://www.modthesims2.com/member.php?u=285828

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/jmtmom/termsMTS2-08C.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Devilfish on 2008 November 15, 15:40:06
Evi really does seem to think that children are simply miniature adults. I don't want to think about that for too long :-\


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: elpemmy on 2008 November 15, 17:58:15
is it me, or is the pose evis girl in the middle is pulling is completely inapropriate when mixed with that face?
She looks like shes leaning back in a... pleasured way.
Eww.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: EmilyTwitch on 2008 November 15, 19:00:09
is it me, or is the pose evis girl in the middle is pulling is completely inapropriate when mixed with that face?
She looks like shes leaning back in a... pleasured way.
Eww.

Which is double weird because all of the other ones look miserable.

I would probably look pretty upset too if I were stuffed into something that hideous. What's with the goth stompin' boots? I've never seen a kid wearing shoes like that.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Ry on 2008 November 15, 19:02:34
She looks like she's overcome constipation and is quite pleased with what came out.  :D

And I wore them boots when I was little. Honestly, I did. But I'm not normal, so...lol


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: neriana on 2008 November 15, 19:50:35
"Tough girls" wearing miniskirts, pastels and flowers. Um, no. Also, they look like children of the corn.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: fway on 2008 November 15, 23:10:32
::)

(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk221/hekkahekkawhat/GearheadMatchPreview1-1.jpg)
(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/tmp/806/806869.jpg)
(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/tmp/805/805924.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 November 15, 23:15:44
Fway's windows are awesome.  ;)
Actually, I have them in my game, and they really are great.  :-*


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: keirra on 2008 November 15, 23:17:47
Fway, you forgot your comparison picture.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 November 15, 23:18:35
Fway, you forgot your comparison picture.

That would be the one at the very top.  ;)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2008 November 15, 23:19:37
I do think someone is trying to compete with you. Which sucks, cause she got the idea from you and this thread, I swear.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: keirra on 2008 November 15, 23:20:02
Fway, you forgot your comparison picture.

That would be the one at the very top.  ;)

Duh....my blindness let me show you it.  :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Anouk on 2008 November 15, 23:20:07
Lol nice recolors... OWAIT!!!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: fway on 2008 November 15, 23:32:44
I wouldn't be surprised if she does the bohemian set next ::)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Devilfish on 2008 November 15, 23:36:36
Fway, you forgot your comparison picture.

That would be the one at the very top.  ;)

I wonder what the confusion was about. Something to do with the blantant rip-off perchance?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Anyerfillag on 2008 November 15, 23:37:58
Oh for crying out load! Am I just a tinfoil freak or does Spaik doing all this maxis match stuff after someone else just a little weird?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 November 15, 23:42:02
Oh for crying out load! Am I just a tinfoil freak or does Spaik doing all this maxis match stuff after someone else just a little weird?

No, no, you're quite right about that.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paleoanth on 2008 November 15, 23:42:52
Anyone looked at the meshes to see how much of a rip off they really are?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: fway on 2008 November 15, 23:45:51
Anyone looked at the meshes to see how much of a rip off they really are?

I don't think they're in the booty yet, and those "one tile" ones are going to be released on the 18th...


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Devilfish on 2008 November 16, 00:25:06
As far as I'm concerned creating something 'new' just days after someone else did exactly the same (and better) is just as bad as actually taking the mesh. I don't need to see the file to know that this is just a rip-off, especially since this isn't the first time she pulled this.  >:(


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: jilly on 2008 November 16, 10:23:55
I'm going to go over and leave a comment about the awesome-ness of fway's set and bitch about spaik  ;)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Obnoxicon on 2008 December 04, 09:11:43
Been meaning to post in this thread for some time. This thread definitely ain't good for my Downloads folder.

(http://i38.tinypic.com/htsk7d.jpg)
Peggy's crap (is that even supposed to be for females?)

VS

(http://i34.tinypic.com/whxqvp.png)
Cool Sims' simple but beautiful hair. LINK (http://web.coolsims.net/?show=hair&page=6)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Rissa on 2008 December 04, 09:42:57
Umm, while the Peggy hair is really ugly and the Coolsims hair is really beautiful you cannot really compare them. Compare a ponytail to a ponytail and clipped back hair to clipped back hait, otherwise the comparison doesn't work.
If someone is trying to exchange the ugly ponytail with a free one, your comparison wouldn't help.

You could compare Peggy's style with hairstyle no5 from Coolsims.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: deelink on 2008 December 04, 09:45:07
Man, I had forgotten about CoolSims, great guys. My Download folder says "CURSE YOU ALL"

 :-*


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Kitiara on 2008 December 04, 12:35:40
Words cannot express how much worse that Peggy hair looks in-game.  Def the worst Peggy hair I've ever seen. Sims looks like they have serious receding hair issues.  Cripes knows how it ended up in my game; needless to say it's gone now.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Obnoxicon on 2008 December 04, 13:52:47
Words cannot express how much worse that Peggy hair looks in-game.  Def the worst Peggy hair I've ever seen. Sims looks like they have serious receding hair issues.  Cripes knows how it ended up in my game; needless to say it's gone now.

Had the same mistake too of downloading that crap. God knows what I was on when I did that.

Anyways, moar hair comparisons! (And hopefully I did it right)

(http://i34.tinypic.com/qx9iyc.jpg)
Rose's quirky ponytail (Where do you see that kind of ponytail?)

(http://i34.tinypic.com/16hlv0k.jpg)
Nouk's magnificent ponytail (I'd download it, but my d/l folder would stab me in the back  :-\)

(I'd add a Helga hair, but I haven't been able to reach her site for some reason--I don't understand Russian)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Rissa on 2008 December 04, 14:18:26
Helga's site is down because her domain has expired. You can translate the message at the site with clicking on the word "English" at the top left.

This comparison actually works, good find.

While we are at translating messages: Does anyone know where to download Anto's (Coolsims) hairs 17-23? I am registered at Tharasims but couldn't find a download button. I don't understand Spanish and Google language tools didn't help that much. I just hope they are not trying to sell the package!!!

Edit: Nevermind, I found it. but the hairs aren't included yet.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 December 04, 14:54:34
While we are at translating messages: Does anyone know where to download Anto's (Coolsims) hairs 17-23? I am registered at Tharasims but couldn't find a download button. I don't understand Spanish and Google language tools didn't help that much. I just hope they are not trying to sell the package!!!

Most important word is descargas (downloads).  :)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Rissa on 2008 December 04, 15:01:45
Yep, I figured this out, that's why I translated every post with "descargar" in it, the problem is that Coolsims links to a forum thread, and in this whole thread I couldn't find a download link when I browsed it this morging. Just after I posted here and looked at it again I found a link to the mainpage of this Fashion Glam Pack.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 December 04, 16:20:19
Ah yes - that perplexed me too - it's up near the top on the right hand side - click on Centro Desgargas - and it will take you to the Download Hub - they make out like it's a section in the forum, but it's up on a sort of menu thing.  :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 December 04, 16:46:21
Ahh that Nouk hair was literally one of the first hairs I have ever had in my game. And it still resides there.  :)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Anouk on 2008 December 04, 16:58:28

Had the same mistake too of downloading that crap. God knows what I was on when I did that.

Anyways, moar hair comparisons! (And hopefully I did it right)
snippa
Rose's quirky ponytail (Where do you see that kind of ponytail?)

snippa
Nouk's magnificent ponytail (I'd download it, but my d/l folder would stab me in the back  :-\)

(I'd add a Helga hair, but I haven't been able to reach her site for some reason--I don't understand Russian)

I hate both those hairs. The head part on my hair pisses me off, I never use it.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: They on 2008 December 04, 19:13:57
Here's a Food Replicator that actually looks like one, from Paladin's Place (http://www.simwardrobe.com/):

(http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/7506/foodreplicatoryo7.png) (http://imageshack.us)
(http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/foodreplicatoryo7.png/1/w300.png) (http://g.imageshack.us/img100/foodreplicatoryo7.png/1/)

Vs. the boring, uninspired Food Replicator at SimSlice:

(http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/simslice/objects/food_replicator_freetime_update/simslice-ts2-objects-appliances-foodreplicator-bigpic5.jpg)

And the advantage of Paladin's one is that it won't doom your sims to make them fat. (I don't think the SimSlice one has that line that prevent sims from eating from it when their hunger is full.)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Obnoxicon on 2008 December 05, 02:16:46
SimSlice's replicator was a total ripoff from Paladin's Palace's. Besides, PP's hacks and objects are so much fun.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 December 05, 04:30:59


I hate both those hairs. The head part on my hair pisses me off, I never use it.

*Gasp!* Maybe it calls for a re-edit like you did your Joleen hair. But I still love the hair though, very pretty for formal outfits.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Xuriel on 2008 December 05, 04:56:27
Here's a Food Replicator that actually looks like one, from Paladin's Place (http://www.simwardrobe.com/):

Vs. the boring, uninspired Food Replicator at SimSlice:

I think that I blocked from my mind that Simslice is still open and spewing forth their crappy hacked objects. I remember getting some stuff from them back in my Sims 1 days and promptly deleting them after I found Simlogical's much better items.





Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Obnoxicon on 2008 December 05, 05:03:24
I think that I blocked from my mind that Simslice is still open and spewing forth their crappy hacked objects. I remember getting some stuff from them back in my Sims 1 days and promptly deleting them after I found Simlogical's much better items.

Their stuff haven't improved. Still all crap.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Miikan on 2008 December 09, 00:31:27
When I was looking for some decorations for baby/kid room I found this:
(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/814/814511.jpg)
It's free but mesh isn't  ::)
On the other hand, here is a beautiful and free set by Suza from simplystyling:
(http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa215/Miikan/Sims%202/Set20Suza20Baby20-20Kid20Clutter.jpg)
Lots of shapes and colours.

BTW, ii's my first post pls don't make me sharkfood... ( brings in rum for everyone )
I'm mostly lurking but became a frequent visitor  ;D Admire what and how you do and hope to became a good pirate one day.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: mustluvcatz on 2008 December 09, 05:08:24
When I was looking for some decorations for baby/kid room I found this:
*snip*
It's free but mesh isn't   ::)
On the other hand, here is a beautiful and free set by Suza from simplystyling:
*snip*
BTW, ii's my first post pls don't make me sharkfood... ( brings in rum for everyone )
I'm mostly lurking but became a frequent visitor  ;D Admire what and how you do and hope to became a good pirate one day.


What stinks is that the mesh USED to be free....until LDG got greedy. That really doesn't matter anyway...the 100% free version looks 100 times better. It's almost enough to convince me let my simmies reproduce.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Yaardarm Monkey II on 2008 December 09, 05:42:42
that cool baby/toddler stuff is at  http://www.simplystyling.de/homesims2.html   

Objects - Objects with our meshes - Deco - p16

just.....wow!!   8)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 December 09, 07:43:26
That is absolutely gorgeous Miikan. And thanks for the link Yaardarm. So downloaded.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Kaitlyn on 2008 December 09, 12:07:44
Baaa for the link, Yaardarm.   :-*  That stuff is too cute.  Pages 14 & 15 also have cute kiddie deco.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Ryocchi on 2008 December 10, 01:45:15
First time posting here! be good with me please =)

This not so good finished from peggys
(http://www.peggyzone.com/html/images/c_ma_0005_s.jpg)

VS

This awesome speedos by Cloudnine from MTS
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh108/RyoKai1/MTS2_Cloudnine_812325_TeenCloudU00.jpg)

I'm a fan of Cloudnine creations all of them are on my game =).

Hope i did it right >___oU


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: heartless on 2008 December 10, 02:08:36
The first speedo looks like the black stuff on the outside of sushi... I forget what it actually is lol.
The second ones, I rather like.  :)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: jilly on 2008 December 10, 02:18:45
If I liked speedos, I would definitely go for the free ones, the peggy one looks like leather/plastic/latex :D


The first speedo looks like the black stuff on the outside of sushi... I forget what it actually is lol.

The black stuff is seaweed  ;)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: heartless on 2008 December 10, 02:50:47
Quote
The black stuff is seaweed

Thanks, that's what I thought.  :)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: LadyDea on 2008 December 10, 03:27:30
Delicious seaweed. My family buys the wraps to eat by itself.

Sorta similar to dulse. Omnomnomnom.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Miikan on 2008 December 10, 13:36:18
The seaweed's name is nori   ;D I make sushi sometimes and use it then.
But to think of a man wrapped in nori and shiny...like Peggy's... ewwww, I prefer fish this way.

Cloudnine creations are awesome, why I don't have them yet? Thanks, Ryocchi.

I wasn't sure if I should link so I didn.t. Now I see how stupid I was  ;D I'll be wiser next time.

( sorry for bad grammar, English is not my first language )



Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Tabby on 2008 December 10, 13:53:24
We don't have Grammar Ploice here; don't worry about it. As long as it is understandable (which yours is) you're fine. Have some rum. ;)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: oolongteadrinker on 2008 December 10, 16:21:09
I have a question about paysite "creators".

Do they ever complete something like that ugly child's deco set, and then come across a superior free set and go "d'oh!"? Come on. Tell me that's happened to someone somewhere.

I suspect they make their shitty meshes and textures, which go unused in their OWN games, and use the free cc.
Back to topic:
That oiled male stripper skin Peggy used for that undie shot is scary and gross. I counter any photoskinned oil slick to any GORGEOUS, seamless, beautiful anva skin.
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w150/veggiedeggie/indexphp.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Emma on 2008 December 10, 20:22:50
Ooh, I like those skintones. Where are they from, MTS2?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: oolongteadrinker on 2008 December 10, 21:05:00
Ooh, I like those skintones. Where are they from, MTS2?

Happy to spread the gospel of Anva. I have her eyes as defaults, as well as her skins and some makeup. She IS a mts2 member, but she doesn't update it much

http://linna.modthesims2.com/member.php?u=120791

Instead, she uploads a little of her stuff here, and a little bit there. But frustratingly, never all in the same place. I believe she's got a couple things up on noukiesims.

http://www.digitalperversion.net/gardenofshadows/index.php?topic=4776.0 her fab "fickle" eyeset

Some of her skins:
http://www.digitalperversion.net/gardenofshadows/index.php?topic=3640.0  "Ghostly Love" Skinset
Skin for your bones:
http://www.digitalperversion.net/gardenofshadows/index.php?topic=4325.0
They're not barbie skins. But what should that matter. Y'all don't have the anti-censor patch, do you? ;)



A fan geneticized Anva's skins, and made defaults of them as well:
http://www.digitalperversion.net/gardenofshadows/index.php?topic=4750.0

Legacy eyes, for emotive eyes that don't have black splotches http://www.digitalperversion.net/gardenofshadows/index.php?topic=5444.0

skin w/ tats: http://www.digitalperversion.net/gardenofshadows/index.php?topic=1596.0

Amazing steampunk jewelry: http://www.digitalperversion.net/gardenofshadows/index.php?topic=5446.0

Her section on the noukiesims board
http://www.noukiesims2.net/tiny/index.php?board=50.0

If anyone knows of any other places she posts, I'd greatly appreciate it.







Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: heartless on 2008 December 10, 21:27:09
I have so much stuff by Anva in my game, it's like a shrine to her. (Or him, I guess... she is a her, right?) Those skins of hers oolongteadrinker posted are lovely.  :)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Emma on 2008 December 10, 21:52:53
Thanks oolong, I can't believe I've never seen her stuff before ;D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Scurvy Cat on 2008 December 10, 23:14:55
The Cloud Nine Speedos are indeed awesome, but....

Are the models pre-op or post-op transexuals? Or possibly female to male cranial transplants?   :o


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: vindi on 2008 December 11, 00:01:51
@Scurvy Cat: Actually, tis that whole bishonen/androgyny thing many Asian creators have going on. It's not a strictly Asian thing, though; you can see it in a lot of it on GOS and the like.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: neriana on 2008 December 11, 00:29:59
Those skins are okay, but I'd have to apply hair to them. Men with waxed chests, NO THANK YOU.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: oolongteadrinker on 2008 December 11, 00:45:17
Those skins are okay, but I'd have to apply hair to them. Men with waxed chests, NO THANK YOU.

I could agree to that if the body hair was some sort of customizable body mask, the way some people do sims tats. Body hair is like eyebrows. It has character, too.

I can't believe I'm thinking this much about body hair.

At least the Anva skins have a "happy trail".


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Yaardarm Monkey II on 2008 December 11, 01:39:44
@Scurvy Cat: Actually, tis that whole bishonen/androgyny thing many Asian creators have going on. It's not a strictly Asian thing, though; you can see it in a lot of it on GOS and the like.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bishonen


um...ok 


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: heartless on 2008 December 11, 01:43:23
Quote
Body hair is like eyebrows. It has character, too.

It is. My ex was quite hairy but it suited him. In most places.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: oolongteadrinker on 2008 December 11, 02:17:07
@Scurvy Cat: Actually, tis that whole bishonen/androgyny thing many Asian creators have going on. It's not a strictly Asian thing, though; you can see it in a lot of it on GOS and the like.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bishonen


um...ok 

heh... *cough* I've watched a lot of anime in my day. I just took it for granted that this was universally understood.  :-\
To be fair, some of the shoujo shows push the bishie thing a bit far. But to each their own.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Mheyin on 2008 December 11, 03:21:32
Oh sweet! I had no idea that Anva did skins too. I have her Annette eyes as defaults in my game. All of my Sims get Anva eyes of some sort. Thanks for the links, Oolong! (Also, that is my favorite tea.)  :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: oolongteadrinker on 2008 December 11, 03:24:34
Oh sweet! I had no idea that Anva did skins too. I have her Annette eyes as defaults in my game. All of my Sims get Anva eyes of some sort. Thanks for the links, Oolong! (Also, that is my favorite tea.)  :D

Don't mention it!  ;D
Now if only I can find a working download of Anva's "Legacy Eyes" set.

*sigh* I'm such an Anva download stalker.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Mheyin on 2008 December 11, 03:37:25
Oh sweet! I had no idea that Anva did skins too. I have her Annette eyes as defaults in my game. All of my Sims get Anva eyes of some sort. Thanks for the links, Oolong! (Also, that is my favorite tea.)  :D

Don't mention it!  ;D
Now if only I can find a working download of Anva's "Legacy Eyes" set.

*sigh* I'm such an Anva download stalker.

I know that Anva was uploading at DL Mulsow's too. That's where I got the Annette defaults. I haven't been there in eons, so I don't know if there's a working set there, but you could try.

At least you're not alone in the download stalking. /fangirl Anva


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SimARR on 2008 December 11, 04:52:04
Crappy PAY necklace by maaak at TSR
(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/tmp/600/600393.jpg)

Versus awesome free necklace by Sheepy-Pie
(http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/9039/36443954zj0.jpg)

Link to free necklace: Luina Sims (http://www.luinasims.com/accessories2.html)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: heartless on 2008 December 11, 05:52:01
That pay necklace looks highly unrealistic. I really like the shape of the free one though. I wish jewelry meshes actually worked in my game.  :'(


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 December 11, 07:11:41
Ooh that Luina sims necklace is nice.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Miikan on 2008 December 11, 10:54:55
Well, it's a little bit different style but...
(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/tmp/816/816445.jpg)
and:
(http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa215/Miikan/Sims%202/MTS2_Foomika_846933_Foomika_MultiLa.jpg)
from Foomika, Mod The Sims2 http://nene.modthesims2.com/download.php?t=310606

I like the shoes and the model face says: look at my dress, it's beautifull, I'm beautiful, she's very confident of herself. While the upper one scares me, I don't want to look like her, nope, nope, thank you ( maybe she ate something unfresh  ??? or she thinks: you're the next one, "hun"... )


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Anyerfillag on 2008 December 11, 13:27:11
I could agree to that if the body hair was some sort of customizable body mask, the way some people do sims tats.

Someone did that very thing at SexySims2 (I have it ingame) - they used Morague's tattoo overlay and made some hair overlays for men. I'm not able to get on the site now (I'm at work), but I can have a look and PM you the link if you want.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: deelink on 2008 December 11, 13:31:28
Anyer, can I be a total ass and ask you to PM it to me too? Or save yourself the bother and link it here?
*bribes you with exclusive rum stolen from elusive place*

 :-* I want my Brazilian ho-sim to have layered body hair damn it!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Anyerfillag on 2008 December 11, 13:39:48
LOL! Brazilian ho sim? Awesome :D

No worries, I'll post a link to it here when I can, as I'm probably not going to be back home until gone 9pm this evening.

And rum would be awesome! I've had it up to here *points to Heaven* with students today :'(


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2008 December 11, 16:12:41
Its a shame, I like the style of dress done in the tsr example, but they did it so poorly.  The free ones are very pretty, but the dresses aren't a style I like....its not faaaaaaiiiiiiiir. /whine


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: oolongteadrinker on 2008 December 11, 16:29:17

Someone did that very thing at SexySims2 (I have it ingame) - they used Morague's tattoo overlay and made some hair overlays for men. I'm not able to get on the site now (I'm at work), but I can have a look and PM you the link if you want.

DO WANT!

Er, I mean, yes please.   :-X

Ugly-ass TSR eyes by theninthwave:
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w150/veggiedeggie/theninth.jpg)

Pwned by these gorgeous Anva eyes.
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w150/veggiedeggie/EyesV1.png)
She utterly defeats the eyeshadow, eyeliner, and brows the tsr pic is using, too.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Scurvy Cat on 2008 December 11, 19:08:52
Oh, I get the androgyny thing.  Seen it before.  Just not quite that bi-gendered.  I don't usually associate it with little girl heads on hunky guy bodies....


Oh, well.  That's why Ghu gave us different brains, I guess.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: i saw drones on 2008 December 11, 22:03:04
Is this what you guys are after?
http://www.sexysims2.com/showthread.php?t=171263


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: oolongteadrinker on 2008 December 11, 23:05:17
i saw drones , those are fabulous!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Devilfish on 2008 December 11, 23:18:37
Is this what you guys are after?
http://www.sexysims2.com/showthread.php?t=171263

 :o

How? How have I been playing and blogging all this time without this? It's phenomenal! Finally my men can look like men! (Although I seriously don't mind the occasional bishonen. Bring on th metro-sexuals, I say ;D )


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Eskimo Pie on 2008 December 11, 23:28:54
I agree! I like my sim men to look like men, not my 13 year old daughter's  boyfriend  :-\


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 December 11, 23:43:31
Loved and Downloaded! Thanks for the linky, drones. By chance does anyone know if anyone ever figured out how to fix that disappearing act with the overlay? It's kind of annoying. Not annoying enough to quit using overlays, though.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: oolongteadrinker on 2008 December 12, 00:55:18
:o

How? How have I been playing and blogging all this time without this? It's phenomenal! Finally my men can look like men! (Although I seriously don't mind the occasional bishonen. Bring on th metro-sexuals, I say ;D )

Amen to that! Variety is sexy. That means the bishies, bears, and everything in between. And I'm just marveling at the skill it took to make the overlays.  :o


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: gyrobot on 2008 December 12, 05:53:25
Non pic related but I think free food contents is better then what comes out of Exnem Foods factory. Plus his games for the Maxis Game Simulators causes crashes.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: deelink on 2008 December 12, 08:56:39
W00t! Awesome! Thanks so much i saw drones!  :-*


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Devilfish on 2008 December 12, 12:37:26
The Hansel and Gretel bakery from Exnem:

(http://www.exnemsims.com/thesims/sims2vault/objects/sets/xnmset01x-house001.jpg)

It has those typical store-bought Exnem meshes and textures (not that I'm all for Maxis match, but Exnem takes it too far), the terrain paint looks weird next to the neighbourhood grass terrain and (I've seen this ingame) those candy decorations bleed through walls. Plus, the 'grab area' or whatever it's called is huge, making it a nightmare to mve things about and decorate.

Also note that the lot itself is free to download, but all the furniture and decorations are pay. That's always a sign of class.  ::)

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b33/cosmic_charly/simsmisc/cf13df2e.jpg)

Now this (http://my.modthesims2.com/download.php?t=264415) looks much more at home in a Sims game! Believe me, this picture does not do it justice. There's harvestable candy and cookie bushes and vines in the yard, the candy canes double as street lights and the inside actually looks sort of yummy :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Anouk on 2008 December 12, 14:42:56
The first home looks like it's from Super Mario.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Devilfish on 2008 December 12, 14:44:45
The first home looks like it's from Super Mario.

Now that you mention it... I bet if you slam your head into that wall, coins and mushrooms come out.  :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: neriana on 2008 December 12, 16:38:28
Don't insult Super Mario so, people at Nintendo know how to make seamless textures. That cookie terrain is worse than my first floor. Exnem's not even trying.

That second one is loverly, obviously made by someone who actually cares what they make.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Old Enuf on 2008 December 12, 18:15:04
Sorry, I had to post just to turn the page,... all of those eyes are just freaky.  I hope it works,..



Yay!!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: ChaosInAMinor on 2008 December 12, 19:27:30
(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/tmp/786/786740.jpg)

This was just put into the Ugly Paysite thread, which made me think of the gorgeous birdcages on GOS.

There's this one, by apollo:
(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg81/ChaosInAMinor/tiac.jpg)
Get it here: http://www.digitalperversion.net/gardenofshadows/index.php?topic=5463.0

And this one, by nixy:
(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg81/ChaosInAMinor/birdcage_ttts.jpg)
Get it here: http://www.digitalperversion.net/gardenofshadows/index.php?topic=6481.0


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 December 12, 19:31:18
Oh I have that most gorgeous gold one by apollo - it so rocks. Just gorgeous.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 December 12, 19:40:07
Oh, yeah. I have both of those and I so love them to death. And, BONUS! They don't have ugly fake birds sitting inside of them.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Tabby on 2008 December 12, 19:42:28
 Why are the birds wearing hats?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: ChaosInAMinor on 2008 December 12, 22:52:00
Why are the birds wearing hats?

You made me go back and look. And now my eyes burn.

I also love the one by apollo. It looks exactly like my tattoo (except my tattoo is obviously black/grayscale). She actually made it in response to a request for a nicer birdcage than the paycrap I could find...y'know, one without birds. ^_^ So...automatic pwnage.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 December 12, 22:54:01
I remember that. I was watching that thread like a hawk! Your tattoo is really awesome, BTW.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 December 13, 18:42:03
(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/818/818008.jpg)

Can you guess who that is? Why it's Edward Cullen! Doesn't he look like he got a lovely dose of photo skinning?

And this lovely version, in our very own "Look at what I made" thread.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j61/miss_sabrina/sims2/ecullen_front.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: jilly on 2008 December 13, 19:44:39
Lulz. I hate the epic 12ness of that book but the first sim sucked as much as chaz


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Skoria_Bay on 2008 December 13, 22:04:21
CJane's Edward has a much more realistic face.

I'd rather have her's in my game any day.

And no, have not read the book nor seen the movie. I prefer Lastat in the books.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: neriana on 2008 December 13, 22:59:30
I can't stand emo vampires, but the second picture is definitely the better Sim.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: heartless on 2008 December 13, 23:23:21
The second one is cute and realistic (and I'm not even a Twilight fan), while the first one looks like an ugly statue made of moldy Provologne cheese.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: MamaKitty on 2008 December 14, 02:00:59
The first one looks like he's wearing face paint.  The body skin doesnt match up to the face.  Both of the sims in that picture look as if they just smelled something unpleasant too.  I agree the second one looks better.  I'm considering downloading it. 

While I agree Lestat was a better vampire; I'll never download a sim of any of Anne Rice's characters or buy another of her books.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: darma on 2008 December 14, 02:26:25
Damn, I've been a lurker here for a while but I just couldn't sit still reading this page, so here I am all registered and such!
By the way, is it just me or do those eyes on the first Emoward Cullen look a bit like zombiejill's?... :-\
It might just be the photoskinning and the size of the preview.

But seriously... That chin looks like it could club an elephant to death :o


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: iamawake on 2008 December 14, 02:43:18
While I agree Lestat was a better vampire; I'll never download a sim of any of Anne Rice's characters or buy another of her books.

You've made me curious: may I ask why?
*was also once a Anne Rice die-hard, operating under the belief that Lestat and company can kick Emoward's ass any day*


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paleoanth on 2008 December 14, 02:45:29
I prefer simmy looking sims to photoskinned from hell sims.  Cjane for the win.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: MamaKitty on 2008 December 14, 03:20:54
The way she treated the people who wrote fan-fiction and made fan art about her characters.  They didn't make a profit off of the things they made, but IIRC she still brought lawsuits up against them (at the very least she raised a huge stink about the fanworks existance).  I just personally feel that that's a rather crappy thing to do to the fans of your work who are doing something to get more people interested in your work.  I know that I can't even begin to count the number of actual original works that fan-fiction or fan art led me to.

I hope that explaination makes some kind of sense.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: CJane on 2008 December 14, 03:37:08
I prefer simmy looking sims to photoskinned from hell sims.  Cjane for the win.

Thanks Palemato, and thanks gang...as soon as S2A is back up he'll be available for download, along with Bella and the Cullen house. I haven't shown Bella yet...I'll have to mosey on over to another thread for that.

I know that Twilight is very popular with the 12's (and a little older), and not so much with the older groups, but after seeing the movie I was a little attached to the characters. Nothing as epic as Lestat, for sure, lol.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: emethyst on 2008 December 14, 03:41:55
I don't even like Robert Pattinson (who plays hawt Edward), but the paysite one made me choke. He should sue.

Bella looks freakin' OLD! What was that idiot thinking!

The second one looks great.

Twilight is overrated.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: darma on 2008 December 14, 03:49:40
Not to steer eveyone away from the subject( ;)) but how about this 'beauty'?
This is by TheNinthWave of TSR.

(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/812/812321.jpg)

It may not be OMGEYEBLEACH, but consider this; it's not lingerie, it's swimwear. WTF??
Sheer swimsuit existed? Anyhoodles, this is the description:
"Shiny, metallic swimwear in 3 types: One Piece, Sheer Midriff, and Bikini.No expansion packs, stuff packs, or meshes required."
Um, not sure about shiny, not sure about metallic... oh wait, is it just me or that texture a lot like tinfoil?
mmm- I do love me some good tinfoil action while I swim ::) just the thought of that makes my skin sting, literally...

I usually get my clothes at MTS2, and try as I might I couldn't find anything that was distasteful to that level...
So my comparison is not really that close. (Sorry, folks.) I also feel a little cheap for using teen swimwear, but it's an actual proper metallic, and I wanted to show that point.
If anyone can find a better match for this, I would greatly appreciate :-*

(http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/oo67/clocker_eleventy/Sims/MTS2_The_Ooh_La_La_ens_767634_singl.jpg)
This is by Annabel, found on MTS2. (also featured in WNF aspiration gift of May according to post)
There are a few other colours but I chose the silver one just for comparison, and as we see here  it's ACTUALLY shiny and metallic, even if it's just the top.
*If Annabel is reading this, an apology for comparing your hard work to...whatever the top thing is, is in due oder, methinks....sorry Annabel*

I also find it intersting, that the TSR craptastic was posted on Nov. 30th, while Annabel had her's featured in WNF's May aspiration set;
meaning that it was done much earlier then June 3rd, the date of the post from MTS.
While the two examples are clearly very different, I believe there is no excuse for the immense gap in quality.. Especially if the superior set is older!

In case if anyone's interested, this is the link to the swimsuit:
http://linna.modthesims2.com/download.php?t=287924

Edited, due to Keyboard brokieness.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2008 December 14, 04:00:15
Thing is, Anne Rice is not the first, nor the last to put the hammer down on fanfics....Anne McCaffery was really bad about it too - I suspect its not the authors themselves either, but their agents.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: pinkyfriend on 2008 December 14, 04:17:14
The bikini top on Annabel's is really pretty. I don't have that so thanks for the link!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: MamaKitty on 2008 December 14, 04:28:27
I know.  It's pretty disheartening really.  A lot of the good quality new or younger generation of writers I've seen all post on the internet.  Most of them start with fanfiction to to build up a reputation of being able to write well.  I've looked into trying to get some of my work published before. The publishing companies won't even talk to you unless you have an agent; and the agents want to charge you outragious amounts to even look at your work.  At least this has been the case where ever I've been able to find.  Talent comes in a poor second in the money game.

Speaking of talent, the first thought that crossed my mind on those swimsuits was tinfoil.  Hey didn't Devilfish have a hat to match them that she posted in another thread?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Skoria_Bay on 2008 December 14, 04:31:21
Thing is, Anne Rice is not the first, nor the last to put the hammer down on fanfics....Anne McCaffery was really bad about it too - I suspect its not the authors themselves either, but their agents.

I was a member of a FanFiction writing group for Anne McCaffery's "Dragonrider" series. We did have official sanction from Anne herself. The groups she mainly "stomped" on were the 12's who wanted "pink or purple" dragons. And yes, it came from her agents and legal staff.

Also, I recently read that Anne Rice is now writing Christian fiction as she has recently turned back to her past upbringing. I found one time on MTS2 a really nice set of pictures that were done as original art by someone of Lastat and Louis. They were based on the "Lady in Red" picture. I downloaded them, but have never put them in my game. It was lovely original art.

And as for those bathing suits.... what are they wearing? Chain mail?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 December 14, 04:46:54
The groups she mainly "stomped" on were the 12's who wanted "pink or purple" dragons.

Now, this right here is why I don't like fan fiction. Pink or purple dragons?  ::) There is always someone to come along and totally screw things up. I know, I know, that doesn't mean that the ones who don't screw it up should suffer, but, IMO, yes it does. Don't let anyone do it and there's no chance anyone will do it wrong. I love books. I adore them. I think fans can screw them all up. The fans have almost fucked Harry Potter up for me, and I've never even read any fan fiction for that. I'm not going to be assed to read any fan fiction for Anne McCaffrey either. Frankly, I can barely bring myself to read the ones her and her son write these days. And it's her world. Hers. I don't believe that by reading it, it's suddenly mine. I'm a visitor. A non-participle. And if you ask me, so is everyone else.

Sorry, all. I just had to get that off my chest.

*Modified for grammatical error*


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: MamaKitty on 2008 December 14, 05:09:05
I dont know, I guess they just miss Barney or something.  The writers who can take someone elses characters or setting and portray it in an accurate and/or believable fashion really have a good chance at a future though.  Again this is only my personal opinion.  Genre's like writing for AD&D novels, Star Trek, Star Wars, Batman and such like can use writers like that.  And in a lot of cases fanfiction writers are doing it for practice.  But I do agree there's a lot of fanfiction thats totaly fubared.  Just have to be careful what you read.  Or you'll be needing eyebleach.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: heartless on 2008 December 14, 05:11:09
Quote
Most of them start with fanfiction to to build up a reputation of being able to write well.

I wouldn't know anything about fan fiction except for band fiction, which I have written before. While what I wrote was not perfect by any means, it did get me more interested in writing fiction of any kind (for the record though, they weren't Mary Sues, don't worry  :D). Unfortunately, while I did not ever try to upload anything I wrote until I thought the writing was good enough for someone else to read, a lot of other people upload things that need a lot of work, sometimes a completely new plot, to be a decent read. But if they all did that I wouldn't have any stories to laugh about anymore.

Aw, come on! No love for my husband, Count Orlock?
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e157/marquisx/countorlock.jpg)

Isn't he much cuter than Edward?  :P


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: neriana on 2008 December 14, 05:24:30
He's a way better vampire than Edward. As I've said, I hate emo vampires. A vampire is a monster who sucks your blood and kills you, damn it, not some stupid "bad boy" who can be "rescued" by the love of a 14 year old girl if she's pretty enough ::).


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Immortelle on 2008 December 14, 06:01:33
Unfortunately, Mamakitty, we live in a world that is about not what you know but who you know.  Especially if you're a writer.  The image of the reclusive writer is a fallacy.  Even Rowling knew someone who knew someone.  Its just how it works in the art world.  It doesn't necessarily matter how good your art is.  You can be out there showing it to all and sundry, but until a Someone Important comes along and sees it, the best you can ever hope to be is some hack for a big company.  Same with music, etc.  You have you get yourself out there, network a little.  Use your people skills, and if you don't have some, get some.  Then, perhaps, if you really are any good, you'll begin to make some headway.  Otherwise, you're just another one of the worlds many struggling artists.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: brainiac on 2008 December 14, 06:28:16
I despise Twilight, and have fantasies of setting Edward's sparkly ass on fire, and even I have to feel bad for what Chaz has done to the guy. Yeesh.

CJane's Ed, on the other hand, is absolutely lovely :)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2008 December 14, 06:29:47
Um, not sure about shiny, not sure about metallic... oh wait, is it just me or that texture a lot like tinfoil?

For the truly tacky or paranoid sim, tinfoil is the only way. :D That annabell outfit is so cute - it has individual sequins.

I like both Count Orlock and Lestat (I've not read or seen twilight, but the odds are that I will find it at least tolerable if it has vampires), however, I'll probably never buy another Anne Rice book again because they've become turgid, religious and boring.



Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: PirateKingofWyrmSea on 2008 December 14, 06:50:45
I hated that Robert Pattinson was casted as Edward on Twilight... with his greasy "dead animal" hair, yellow teeth, and broken nose... gross.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Devilfish on 2008 December 14, 13:56:07
Speaking of talent, the first thought that crossed my mind on those swimsuits was tinfoil.  Hey didn't Devilfish have a hat to match them that she posted in another thread?

Did someone call for tin foil hats? Get yer tin foil hats (http://my.modthesims2.com/download.php?t=304313)! Now witch matching swimwear! Don't be caught unawares in any public or private pool! You're relaxing, but they're still out to get you!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2008 December 14, 14:41:13

I was a member of a FanFiction writing group for Anne McCaffery's "Dragonrider" series. We did have official sanction from Anne herself. The groups she mainly "stomped" on were the 12's who wanted "pink or purple" dragons. And yes, it came from her agents and legal staff.


She also stomped all over people doing MUSHs, because they were putting out a computer game and her agents said we'd take away income from her.  Obviously the idiots didn't realize that a mush is -non-graphical- and if the game had been any good.....as it was, she was actually nice enough to let existing ones keep going.

The point is, alot of times, things like that comes from agents, not actually the authors.

And a shame, but not surprising to hear about Anne Rice, honestly.  Some people handle changed spirituality well - others are not nearly so graceful about it.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2008 December 14, 14:44:13
Unfortunately, Mamakitty, we live in a world that is about not what you know but who you know.  Especially if you're a writer.  The image of the reclusive writer is a fallacy.  Even Rowling knew someone who knew someone.  Its just how it works in the art world.  It doesn't necessarily matter how good your art is.  You can be out there showing it to all and sundry, but until a Someone Important comes along and sees it, the best you can ever hope to be is some hack for a big company.  Same with music, etc.  You have you get yourself out there, network a little.  Use your people skills, and if you don't have some, get some.  Then, perhaps, if you really are any good, you'll begin to make some headway.  Otherwise, you're just another one of the worlds many struggling artists.

That reminds me of a clever ploy a jewelry artist used to get some recognition - she sent a pair of earrings she'd designed to one of the local big three anchor women as a gift.  Of course the anchor woman wore them, getting her some exposure, and even mentioned who'd shed gotten them from.  The poor lady was flooded with orders after that.

Sometimes, you don't have to know someone, but just be a bit generous and clever.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Immortelle on 2008 December 14, 16:34:51
The whole freebie trick is done in the fashion industry all the time.  Do you honestly think your A-list celebrities pay for those gorgeous gowns they are resplendent went they tread down the red carpet.  Of course not!  The majority of those gowns are given to them from major fashion houses, eager to insure that their House is the one everyone wants to buy from this year.  Target those who are seen the most publicly.  Its all about marketing and selling, something which most artists despise - see it as selling out.  Unfortunately, if you want to make a living out of art, not just merely a hobby, its what you have got to do.  Your creations effectively become nothing more than a product that must be sold to the public.

The women the Houses target the most are the 'It' girls.  Beyonce Knowles is generally off limits, as she mostly wears stuff from her mother's collection, but she has been known to wear Versace.  Jennifer Lopez used to be frequently seen in Valentino, but again she has her own line to promote these days (Sweetface.  For the past two years her collections have been panned by fashionistas, however.  Regarded as boring and unorigional, and even a little dated.)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: iamawake on 2008 December 14, 16:46:40
I thought Lopez became a Cavalli girl when she got pregnant. I may be wrong, however.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: rogette on 2008 December 15, 05:55:22
I know.  It's pretty disheartening really.  A lot of the good quality new or younger generation of writers I've seen all post on the internet.  Most of them start with fanfiction to to build up a reputation of being able to write well.  I've looked into trying to get some of my work published before. The publishing companies won't even talk to you unless you have an agent; and the agents want to charge you outragious amounts to even look at your work.  At least this has been the case where ever I've been able to find.  Talent comes in a poor second in the money game.



(Apologies for delurking to post off topic)

I've never read or written fanfic, but I've had a fair bit of short litfic published. Reputable agents should not charge just to look at your work. I can point you to a few useful sites, but I don't know if I can post links here. PM me if you're interested. Also, if you prefer to have your work considered sans agent, take a look at small, independent publishers. Seal Press, which specializes in non-fiction books for women, is one example, and there are many more.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Skoria_Bay on 2008 December 15, 06:24:42
She also stomped all over people doing MUSHs, because they were putting out a computer game and her agents said we'd take away income from her.  Obviously the idiots didn't realize that a mush is -non-graphical- and if the game had been any good.....as it was, she was actually nice enough to let existing ones keep going.

The point is, alot of times, things like that comes from agents, not actually the authors.

And a shame, but not surprising to hear about Anne Rice, honestly.  Some people handle changed spirituality well - others are not nearly so graceful about it.

That's right! I'd forgotten about that. Shows how old I'm getting. And our fanfiction wasn't bad. We didn't use any of the exiting characters, we simply used the universe and had our own weyr. And I haven't read any of the new books lately myself either by Anne McCaffrey or her son. I stopped reading Anne Rice's Vampire books after I finished "Tales of the Body Snatcher".


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: MamaKitty on 2008 December 15, 08:41:24
Thank you rogette.  PM sent.
@Meanie-  I know, but if the internet is good for anything, its spreading information and getting to at least somewhat know people you would never have had an opportunity to before.  Twenty years ago almost no one where I live could say they knew someone from Australia, or could even really ask one how they felt about this issue or that issue.  So hopefully with time and work I can finally have the career I've wanted so for so long.  (Insert evil cackle) And then I shall write a tell all book exposing the seedy underside and dirty little secrets of fast food joints and retail sales.  As an added bonus I shall include the shameful misdeeds of TSR.  I shall bring them all to their knees.

Anywho...sorry about being off topic guys, I dont drink rum but I do have a case of Arrogant Bastard beer that might make up for things.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Scurvy Cat on 2008 December 15, 14:39:16
Point of information--Important point of information for anyone who wants to get published. If an agent asks you for money up front beyond return postage for the manuscript or occasional office expenses like photocopying the manuscript run away, far away because s/he is conning you and will not get you published.   Legitimate agents get paid a percentage for selling the manuscript.  The main rule to remember to avoid being ripped off in the publishing industry is what is called Yog's Law: Money flows to the Author.

For more information go to the following sites:
http://www.sfwa.org/Beware/
http://accrispin.blogspot.com/ 

This has been a public service announcement, you may now return to your regularly scheduled Paysite Bashing.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Devilfish on 2008 December 15, 15:11:42
Right, so, suppose the Maxis aliens bore you (provided you liked them in the first place), or you've got a lot of sci-fi cc and want some sims to match it, but for whatever reason you want to inject some alien flavour into your hoods. Who you gonna call? This TSR monstrosity?

(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/214/214538.jpg)

Hell, it doesn't even work if you were looking for an ugly alien. It's simply badly made, the colors make my eyes bleed and it looks jagged. Just a sim with green skin and a pointy chin (and don't even get me started on the laser eyes). No, if you want your unattractive but well-made alien sim, something you can tell required some work instead of moving sliders about, what about one of these?

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b33/cosmic_charly/simsmisc/84e3d8f7.jpg)(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b33/cosmic_charly/simsmisc/1e2397f1.jpg)

http://linna.modthesims2.com/download.php?t=231697
It looks like it's actually from another planet, it's still a damn ugly little critter but it's well-made, has a finished look and the color scheme required a little more thought than "Well, alien are green, right? NEON!"

http://ll30sims.moonfruit.com/#/linusloverssimspage2/4531208188
And if you were going for typical green alien that is not evil-looking, linuslover30 has that covered too.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: neriana on 2008 December 15, 17:00:14
What's with the pointy chins at TSR? Actually, Apartment Life had a bunch of Sims with weird pointy chins and noses, too.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 December 15, 17:52:00
I think pointy chins have the ability to be attractive. However, I do not believe that that is what you get from T$R or EA. Much of what they do is not attractive. In fact, it makes me want to gouge my eyes out with a spork.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2008 December 15, 18:22:03
I think I can make pointy chins look cute - here is a character I did for one of the contests I've tried.

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d152/Reynfox/Hogwarts%20Experience/ArielHome.jpg)
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d152/Reynfox/Ariel1.jpg)

I think she came out cute.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Ashbashtus on 2008 December 15, 23:05:29
The TSR one reminds me of The Mask.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: karin hoshi on 2008 December 15, 23:25:13
I think I can make pointy chins look cute - here is a character I did for one of the contests I've tried.

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d152/Reynfox/Hogwarts%20Experience/ArielHome.jpg)
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d152/Reynfox/Ariel1.jpg)

I think she came out cute.

She is cute  ;).

That ugly eye killing alien gives me creeps. Not going to sleep tonight,I'm afraid that green monster will eat me. :'(   


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: heartless on 2008 December 16, 00:04:14
Those are both cute and well-done.  :) Eaxis's and TSR's versions of pointed chins look like traffic cones or weapons.  :-\


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2008 December 16, 02:57:03
Agreed....they just *shudder*


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: EmilyTwitch on 2008 December 16, 05:15:28
The TSR one reminds me of The Mask.

I thought so too! Eek, that's just gross.  :-X


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: neriana on 2008 December 16, 07:53:32
That cute SoggyFox Sim looks like a person. I was talking about the EA/TSR pointy chins which could kill someone. And the Paris Hilton flat pointy noses. Someone has a really weird fetish.

Edit: Really silly typo.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: karin hoshi on 2008 December 16, 22:40:55
The TSR one reminds me of The Mask.

I thought so too! Eek, that's just gross.  :-X

I think The Mask is better looking than that "alien".  :-\


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: pinkyfriend on 2008 December 20, 05:55:10
Not new but...
(http://i43.tinypic.com/2gvpr8g.jpg)

compared to these:
(http://i43.tinypic.com/wiqgi.jpg)

Methinks Evi REALLY needs to take some lessons from fakepeeps7!
Not only are the free clothes better, but fakepeeps' toddlers actually look like *shock* toddlers!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Eskimo Pie on 2008 December 20, 06:45:09
Evi is never allowed near my kids ever!

If I wanted my kids to dress stupid i would have their father pick out their outfits for the day.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: They on 2008 December 20, 08:13:21
Not new but...

*WTF is that red headed kid doing?*

Oh wow, that red headed kid looks like he's doing something really fucked up... I mean, that pose looks like he's flashing his parts to the world or something. :o


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: fway on 2008 December 20, 08:51:36
Not new but...

*WTF is that red headed kid doing?*

Oh wow, that red headed kid looks like he's doing something really fucked up... I mean, that pose looks like he's flashing his parts to the world or something. :o

Teehee, it reminded me of this (http://encyclopediadramatica.com/WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY), except it's doing it wrong.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Scurvy Cat on 2008 December 22, 01:42:42
The one boy on the top left in the green looks like he ought to have been painted on black velvet in the 60s.  (OK, anyone else remember what I'm talking about.)

Either that or Evi's been reading the comic strip Dondi.  (God, I'm old.)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: danila on 2008 December 25, 04:40:34
From Simslice (and will probably bork your game), NOT really a pirate ship or pirate-y at all:

(http://www.simslice.com/files/images/sims2/lots/simslice-ts2-lots-tafgiraffe-RiversideDrive-pic4.jpg)

Choose instead these actual pirate abodes from ModTheSims 2:
Pirate Cove with swimmable waters
http://modthesims2.com/download.php?t=198916
(http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm225/blackcherrypa/piratecove.jpg)

The Vanguard, needs no EPs and my Pirate Sims love it
http://modthesims2.com/download.php?t=87478
(http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm225/blackcherrypa/vanguardship.jpg)



Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Kragey on 2008 December 25, 06:04:58
Quote
http://modthesims2.com/download.php?t=198916

That...is...AMAZING! I don't have any pirate sims right now (I know, blasphemy, right?), but I'm still tempted to download that.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Devilfish on 2008 December 25, 17:31:49
V1nd1care is amazing, I have all her stuff and it still makes my jaw drop. As far as ships go the Vanguard is amazing, but I prefer the Venture. (http://www.modthesims2.com/download.php?t=228145) Looks more piratey to me.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Lord Darcy on 2008 December 25, 23:31:15
From Simslice (and will probably bork your game), NOT really a pirate ship or pirate-y at all:
Looks like SimSlice blocked hotlinking, the image does not show up for me.

http://www.simslice.com/violation.html

A fug indeed.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Darqstar on 2008 December 25, 23:45:42
That link now leads to a "Warning" page that lectures about teh evils of hotlinking.  Much more amusing than the original picture.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Kragey on 2008 December 26, 01:47:16
MouseyBlue makes some really pretty Sims and nice hair recolors. Her method is a bit counterproductive--you PM her and she sends you the package files--but they're still interesting Sims.

(http://i40.tinypic.com/2hrom5w.jpg)

(http://i40.tinypic.com/69kk82.jpg)

Maybe I'm just very share-oriented, but I don't get the point of showing off pictures of Sims you created, then hoarding them. WTF, it's pixels on your computer! It's not like you're sharing a boyfriend! Anybody with the same CC and a decent amount of patience could remake him, so why not slough a few minutes off of the process and just upload them?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: pringeta on 2008 December 26, 02:42:14
I'm pretty sure that Mouseyblue doesn't openly share her Sims because she uses skintone blends blended from certain free artists who don't allow their skins to be shared/used for blending.

ETA: I think I read a thread about this at GOS.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Kragey on 2008 December 26, 02:56:38
I'm pretty sure that Mouseyblue doesn't openly share her Sims because she uses skintone blends blended from certain free artists who don't allow their skins to be shared/used for blending.

ETA: I think I read a thread about this at GOS.

Really? Huh, never heard about that. I'll have to find that thread.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: pringeta on 2008 December 26, 03:08:04
I've been trying to find the thread for the past 30 minutes.  My search skills are sorely lacking.

ETA: Ok so I've been searching GOS for awhile now, and I'm pretty sure I was wrong.  Mouseyblue said at one point that she won't share any of her sims that make ugly children, so perhaps those two sims make ugly kids?
I could've sworn that I read about some of the GOS creators not posting new skintone blends because of policy changes. Sorry for the wrong info!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: neriana on 2008 December 26, 05:07:23
Pringeta, you're in the wrong thread. I'm not sure if there is a right thread for your subject, or I'd point you there.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Pescado on 2008 December 26, 07:44:40
From Simslice (and will probably bork your game), NOT really a pirate ship or pirate-y at all:
Looks like SimSlice blocked hotlinking, the image does not show up for me.[/quote]
Get RefControl for your FurryFox. Then you'll never have problems with blocked hotlinking again. I look at whatever the hell I damn well please, and to hell with your NOSY SPYING and anti-hotlinking!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: pringeta on 2008 December 26, 14:40:34
Pringeta, you're in the wrong thread. I'm not sure if there is a right thread for your subject, or I'd point you there.

No, I'm not. I was replying to Kragey.  I just didn't quote the conversation.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: neriana on 2008 December 26, 17:53:00
Pringeta, you're in the wrong thread. I'm not sure if there is a right thread for your subject, or I'd point you there.

No, I'm not. I was replying to Kragey.  I just didn't quote the conversation.

Sorry, I should have said Kragey. Who is definitely in the wrong thread. This is "free content pwns paysite crap", not "this creator doesn't upload what I want."


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Kragey on 2008 December 26, 18:32:29
Pringeta, you're in the wrong thread. I'm not sure if there is a right thread for your subject, or I'd point you there.

No, I'm not. I was replying to Kragey.  I just didn't quote the conversation.

Sorry, I should have said Kragey. Who is definitely in the wrong thread. This is "free content pwns paysite crap", not "this creator doesn't upload what I want."

I didn't mean it that way. I meant to show that the aforementioned free content looks nicer than most of the pay content I've seen. It has nothing to do with her "not uploading what I want," because technically, I can just ask her for it. I just thought the method was a bit odd, and I went on a mini-tangent about people who won't share things because they're "posessive" of their Sims. Mouseyblue is not one of those people.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Anyerfillag on 2008 December 26, 18:38:22
I didn't mean it that way. I meant to show that the aforementioned free content looks nicer than most of the pay content I've seen. It has nothing to do with her "not uploading what I want," because technically, I can just ask her for it. I just thought the method was a bit odd, and I went on a mini-tangent about people who won't share things because they're "posessive" of their Sims. Mouseyblue is not one of those people.

It sounded like that - no way should a creator be forced to upload anything and the wording you used and the way you structured them made it seem you were bitching about not having her sims. And people can do what the hell they want with their sims, including spamming the forums with images. Heck, there are certain sims I would never give out as I spent a lot of time on them AND they are selfsims of friends and family. Like with any creation, people feel attached to them.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Kragey on 2008 December 26, 18:39:53
I didn't mean it that way. I meant to show that the aforementioned free content looks nicer than most of the pay content I've seen. It has nothing to do with her "not uploading what I want," because technically, I can just ask her for it. I just thought the method was a bit odd, and I went on a mini-tangent about people who won't share things because they're "posessive" of their Sims. Mouseyblue is not one of those people.

It sounded like that - no way should a creator be forced to upload anything and the wording you used and the way you structured them made it seem you were bitching about not having her sims. And people can do what the hell they want with their sims, including spamming the forums with images. Heck, there are certain sims I would never give out as I spent a lot of time on them AND they are selfsims of friends and family. Like with any creation, people feel attached to them.

If you feel attached to them, fine, but I personally don't understand it. I didn't mean for it all to come out as nasty sounding as it did. I apologize.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Anouk on 2008 December 26, 23:07:57
What, and you'll still laugh when I say I don't want my stuff on fat sims??? Whyyyy? So mean!!einz  :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Eskimo Pie on 2008 December 27, 03:08:38
What, and you'll still laugh when I say I don't want my stuff on fat sims??? Whyyyy? So mean!!einz  :D



right now your stuff is on a lot of fat sims in my game! blame the butler who will not stop cooking!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Anouk on 2008 December 27, 03:12:06
Nooooooo omg so mean! I'm leeaaaving!!!  :'( Prepares to spy on littletoes forever and ever and ever!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: danila on 2008 December 27, 03:37:35
That link now leads to a "Warning" page that lectures about teh evils of hotlinking.  Much more amusing than the original picture.

That warning page really is much, MUCH funnier (the original pic is just a boring supposed pirate house ugly thing that comes with a boring "pirate" family that you probably can't get rid of just like you can't stop their crazy game-killing "weather machine" or their jumping farm animals and the "special surprises" they put in nearly every download, those nasty surprises). But this evils of hotlinking page, well, that's why I hotlinked in the first place. What a nice gift.



Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: karin hoshi on 2008 December 27, 05:34:48
That link now leads to a "Warning" page that lectures about teh evils of hotlinking.  Much more amusing than the original picture.

That warning page really is much, MUCH funnier (the original pic is just a boring supposed pirate house ugly thing that comes with a boring "pirate" family that you probably can't get rid of just like you can't stop their crazy game-killing "weather machine" or their jumping farm animals and the "special surprises" they put in nearly every download, those nasty surprises). But this evils of hotlinking page, well, that's why I hotlinked in the first place. What a nice gift.



That page would make a great macro. :P


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: crunk on 2008 December 27, 14:45:18
I've got a good one here! :D

"Studio K" on T$R
(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/tmp/822/822249.jpg)

Claypads walls and floors by mlefay21 on MTS2 (http://nene.modthesims2.com/download.php?t=305805)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/pretentiouskate/MTS2_mlefay21_829464_pre1.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 December 27, 21:27:06
I love mlefay21's wallpapers. I never was a fan of just plain tile and the latter, and she always has pretty decorations on the tiles.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: naceygirl on 2008 December 28, 00:20:31
It's the wall-table thing I'm drooling over, where is that from?!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: crunk on 2008 December 28, 01:44:56
It's the wall-table thing I'm drooling over, where is that from?!

The shelf in lefay's screenshot is from Apartment Life.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: naceygirl on 2008 December 30, 12:05:53

Yeah, I would probably not like them if they had makeup. But there are people that do look like that (femenine features and manscaping and all). But it looks more emo-ey than woman-ey. It's stuff with loads of makeup, like this (http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/624/624985.jpg), this (http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/380/380933.jpg) and especially this (http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/324/324812.jpg) that I really don't like. It looks so odd and weird and quite frankly the last one looks like a drag queen.

Anyway, a little more on topic. The bath set is amazing.

Catching up, quoting from the dark ages, necromancy if you will...

That Poirot was one of my earliest Sims, and without the make-up he looked really pale.  *shrugs*  I would love to take him down from there but TSR are ignoring my requests at the moment.  I might have to step up to something more.  I don't want them having my Doctor sims.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: pinkyfriend on 2008 December 31, 01:19:07
Just curious. Is "StudioK" the same creator (term used loosely) as kCraft from away back on MTS2?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: vindi on 2008 December 31, 03:36:30
Is this (http://nene.modthesims2.com/member.php?u=206257) the kCraft you're thinking of, pinkyfriend? Looks like the same person.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: scrappysim on 2008 December 31, 05:35:37
Yep. One and the same.  Hagerks or whatever.  She recently changed her name at TSR to some kind of combo-blended version.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: chemistrycourtney on 2008 December 31, 18:03:24
Yeppers.  Now it's StudioKHagerks.  Is that name long enough for you?   :P


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: pinkyfriend on 2009 January 01, 02:02:52
Well, whatever she calls herself, she really needs to get a new color wheel. Boooooorrriiinng! I thought those colors looked the same as what I saw on MTS2.
Do the people on TSR not believe in change...or originality...or...oh what am I saying....stupid question I know!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Kragey on 2009 January 01, 04:39:18
What, and you'll still laugh when I say I don't want my stuff on fat sims??? Whyyyy? So mean!!einz  :D



right now your stuff is on a lot of fat sims in my game! blame the butler who will not stop cooking!

Is THAT what the butler does? Here I thought they were just giving us an innane rehash of the maid, so I wasn't even bothering. Now I have to hire one!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: keirra on 2009 January 01, 06:36:01
What, and you'll still laugh when I say I don't want my stuff on fat sims??? Whyyyy? So mean!!einz  :D



right now your stuff is on a lot of fat sims in my game! blame the butler who will not stop cooking!

Is THAT what the butler does? Here I thought they were just giving us an innane rehash of the maid, so I wasn't even bothering. Now I have to hire one!

The butler will also take care of the spawn, repair stuff and garden. He's useful.  :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Eskimo Pie on 2009 January 01, 15:36:51
  I do like the butler, but I also hire a gardener because he could not keep up. I love having lots of plans and flowers on my lots.

  Just to let you know Nouk, I took my fat simmy family to the gym so they are thin again!! lol


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Anouk on 2009 January 01, 16:38:08
Lol  :D
Actually, the 'I don't want my stuff on fat sims1111!!!!!'-thing is a reference to another Sims 2 custom content creator who seriously had this in their TOS. Does anyone remember who that was?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2009 January 01, 16:58:05
I'm sure it used to be (but is now removed) from artemistha's ToU. I downloaded her stuff, and couldn't see the point because her meshes didn't include fat morphs. My sim was extremely fat, and I never knew it. :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2009 January 01, 18:14:57
I remember there was someone who did skins who didn't want them used on fat sims either - no clue who - I read it, laughed, and went elsewhere for skins.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2009 January 01, 23:24:26
But, if you're only using the skins or outfits for personal use, how would the creator ever know if you used it on fat Sims? Sims Police?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: keirra on 2009 January 02, 00:04:56
But, if you're only using the skins or outfits for personal use, how would the creator ever know if you used it on fat Sims? Sims Police?

Don't you get that feeling once and awhile when you're playing the game that someone is watching you? Well, it's one of those crazy creators with freaky TOU's.  :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Silver Arrows on 2009 January 02, 00:07:17
Maybe they bundle their own version of suck-u-rom with it


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2009 January 02, 00:18:41
Darn! I thought that moving bush looked suspicious!

So Sims have Weight Watchers now? Chubb-u-ROM?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Megabolt on 2009 January 02, 20:20:50
okay, help me out.  this is my first post.  i rrrrreally hope i didn't screw this up.

chaz's craptastic audrey hepburn
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd193/megabolt88/free%20pwns%20pay/th_craptastichepburnbychaz.jpg) (http://s222.photobucket.com/albums/dd193/megabolt88/free%20pwns%20pay/?action=view&current=craptastichepburnbychaz.jpg)

reginaS's audrey from mts2
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd193/megabolt88/free%20pwns%20pay/th_yayhepburnbyreginaSatmts2.jpg) (http://s222.photobucket.com/albums/dd193/megabolt88/free%20pwns%20pay/?action=view&current=yayhepburnbyreginaSatmts2.jpg)

how dare he do this to the best actress of her time???  reginaS's may not be perfect but its a LOT better than chaz's pay junk.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: keirra on 2009 January 02, 20:26:13
You did good, Megabolt.  ;D

However, please to be using capital letters where needed.  ;)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Megabolt on 2009 January 02, 20:31:58
Phew!  I was afraid I was going to be slaughtered for screwing something up.  Also, I apologize.  My typing grammar is atrocious. 


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: emethyst on 2009 January 03, 04:31:07
Just look at the thick eyebrows and big nose. Oh, and not to mention the photoshopped face on the main picture. Why would people want to pay for Chaz's slaughter of Audrey Hepburn?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2009 January 03, 16:58:36
The only fix needed with the free one is a tweak to the lips, and that's so freaking minor.  Otherwise she's gorgeous.  And agreed - Chaz butchered one of my favorite actresses - I wonder if he ever butchered my other favorite? *afraid to look*


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Ashbashtus on 2009 January 03, 17:05:26
Besides Chaz's inability to make that sim actually look like Audrey Hepburn, it also looks like it was made with Sims 1 not Sims 2. Then again a lot of his sims look that way to me.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2009 January 03, 17:13:48
Besides Chaz's inability to make that sim actually look like Audrey Hepburn, it also looks like it was made with Sims 1 not Sims 2. Then again a lot of his sims look that way to me.
this is because he doesn't model the face at all - iirc, he uses the first face from maxis and just makes masks to turn that one bone structure into some semblance of the celebrity in question.

I do the opposite - I make the bone structures and then match the base skintone, without making any sort of photoskinning at all.  I know some people swear by photoskinning, but to me, it makes the sim look wrong somehow.  IMO anyway.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Missbonbon on 2009 January 03, 18:05:21
Besides Chaz's inability to make that sim actually look like Audrey Hepburn, it also looks like it was made with Sims 1 not Sims 2. Then again a lot of his sims look that way to me.
this is because he doesn't model the face at all - iirc, he uses the first face from maxis and just makes masks to turn that one bone structure into some semblance of the celebrity in question.

I do the opposite - I make the bone structures and then match the base skintone, without making any sort of photoskinning at all.  I know some people swear by photoskinning, but to me, it makes the sim look wrong somehow.  IMO anyway.

Yep. He does no face sculpting at all. You think the guy could even go into a little bit of effort and make the makeup/eyebrows separate ya know. Nope, to lazy. Definitely a sign that all he cares about is the money.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: pinkyfriend on 2009 January 03, 21:02:26
That explains why all his sims have the jawbone oof an ass  :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: oolongteadrinker on 2009 January 04, 00:25:00
Besides Chaz's inability to make that sim actually look like Audrey Hepburn, it also looks like it was made with Sims 1 not Sims 2. Then again a lot of his sims look that way to me.

I think this explains the majority of paycrap sims out there. They became so used to making sims the Sims1 way that they just transfered the method to sims 2. Ah, remember the old sim bodyshop where you basically transferred an image to one shape? The hardest part was centering the image.

As long as people give them money for their "creations" like this, they have no real motivation to change and learn.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Ashbashtus on 2009 January 04, 03:10:15
Besides Chaz's inability to make that sim actually look like Audrey Hepburn, it also looks like it was made with Sims 1 not Sims 2. Then again a lot of his sims look that way to me.

I think this explains the majority of paycrap sims out there. They became so used to making sims the Sims1 way that they just transfered the method to sims 2. Ah, remember the old sim bodyshop where you basically transferred an image to one shape? The hardest part was centering the image.

As long as people give them money for their "creations" like this, they have no real motivation to change and learn.

Unfortunetly, Chaz's old way of doing things just looks like garbage in this game. Honestly, I can't really remember making my own unique sims for the Sims 1. I believe I made "my self-sim" a bunch of times, meaning just a female sim with brown hair ::). I never found out about customization or custom content untl The Sims 2. Unfortunely though, the first content sites I found were paysites. I still shudder at my 12 year old TSR-sheeple days. :-[


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: oolongteadrinker on 2009 January 04, 03:24:58

Unfortunetly, Chaz's old way of doing things just looks like garbage in this game. Honestly, I can't really remember making my own unique sims for the Sims 1. I believe I made "my self-sim" a bunch of times, meaning just a female sim with brown hair ::). I never found out about customization or custom content untl The Sims 2. Unfortunely though, the first content sites I found were paysites. I still shudder at my 12 year old TSR-sheeple days. :-[

I feel your pain! It hasn't even been more than 2 years since I found the light.

As for sims1 I fondly(?) remember trying to make custom and self sims with sims1 tools and I feel like it ought to be cringeworthy, but I just kinda chuckle. With Sims1 it's the crudeness that makes it endearing. With sims2, not so much.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: heartless on 2009 January 04, 04:43:28
Quote
With Sims1 it's the crudeness that makes it endearing.

Aw, you make me recall the very first outfit I made for Sims 1... This hideous solid green outfit with a bright red scarf. I was so excited at my own "skill" but for some reason I never actually used the outfit, heh heh...


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Eskimo Pie on 2009 January 04, 06:55:12
Lol  :D
Actually, the 'I don't want my stuff on fat sims1111!!!!!'-thing is a reference to another Sims 2 custom content creator who seriously had this in their TOS. Does anyone remember who that was?


I had a feeling you were joking ....but my cubby simmies still had to hit the gym :)   I am not surprised someone has that in their TOU tho..I have read some over at the TSR that were pretty far out there.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Megabolt on 2009 January 07, 00:21:32
I'm not sure how to feel about XM since they still offer donation stuff (Are they making any progress towards making that stuff free?), but i wanted to show this...

tsr's
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd193/megabolt88/th_dinahairtsr.jpg) (http://s222.photobucket.com/albums/dd193/megabolt88/?action=view&current=dinahairtsr.jpg)
vs
xm's
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd193/megabolt88/th_XMS_Flora_MeshHair087B.jpg) (http://s222.photobucket.com/albums/dd193/megabolt88/?action=view&current=XMS_Flora_MeshHair087B.jpg)

Is it just me or is this a rip-off of XM??  Also, just in case that wasn't enough pwnage for you...

PeggyG shop junk
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd193/megabolt88/th_femaleclothing00091peggy.jpg) (http://s222.photobucket.com/albums/dd193/megabolt88/?action=view&current=femaleclothing00091peggy.jpg)
vs
Berneseland's creation from MTS2
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd193/megabolt88/th_free.jpg) (http://s222.photobucket.com/albums/dd193/megabolt88/?action=view&current=free.jpg)

Edit-misspelled Berneseland


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: crunk on 2009 January 07, 00:35:29
I'm not sure how to feel about XM since they still offer donation stuff (Are they making any progress towards making that stuff free?), but i wanted to show this...

tsr's
vs
xm's
Is it just me or is this a rip-off of XM??  Also, just in case that wasn't enough pwnage for you...

XM is a paysite.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Megabolt on 2009 January 07, 00:47:12
I'm not sure how to feel about XM since they still offer donation stuff (Are they making any progress towards making that stuff free?), but i wanted to show this...

tsr's
vs
xm's
Is it just me or is this a rip-off of XM??  Also, just in case that wasn't enough pwnage for you...

XM is a paysite.

I will take that as a "No they aren't working to become free".  Thank you  ;D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: crunk on 2009 January 07, 02:06:32
I'm not sure how to feel about XM since they still offer donation stuff (Are they making any progress towards making that stuff free?), but i wanted to show this...

tsr's
vs
xm's
Is it just me or is this a rip-off of XM??  Also, just in case that wasn't enough pwnage for you...

XM is a paysite.

I will take that as a "No they aren't working to become free".  Thank you  ;D


What would have given you that idea? People look at XM and assume that because they haven't updated the pay files in a long time that this makes them somehow less of a paysite and more of a freesite with a what... coding error that takes your credit card info before you can access certain files?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Megabolt on 2009 January 07, 02:25:47
I'm not sure how to feel about XM since they still offer donation stuff (Are they making any progress towards making that stuff free?), but i wanted to show this...

tsr's
vs
xm's
Is it just me or is this a rip-off of XM??  Also, just in case that wasn't enough pwnage for you...

XM is a paysite.

I will take that as a "No they aren't working to become free".  Thank you  ;D


What would have given you that idea? People look at XM and assume that because they haven't updated the pay files in a long time that this makes them somehow less of a paysite and more of a freesite with a what... coding error that takes your credit card info before you can access certain files?

I had read in another topic that XM was slowly freeing its donation files.  I was curious if they were still making progress on that, or if they had stopped.  I assumed from your answer that they weren't.  If I am mistaken, I apologize.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2009 January 07, 03:30:59
There has been no progress for such a long time that the conclusion has been drawn that they aren't going to do it.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: oolongteadrinker on 2009 January 07, 05:42:53
There has been no progress for such a long time that the conclusion has been drawn that they aren't going to do it.

They never made stuff I wanted anyway. The textures always look lazy and half-assed.  Time-honored marks of the paysite. though the hair meshes look alright sometimes.I do like when other people retexture their stuff.

Who, if anyone in the world is still paying for the pay content on that site? One's got to assume that there are a few poor suckers out there who pay for that stuff now and then who don't know much about cc, the sims community, good quality freestuff-- let alone that they even made the claim that this stuff would eventually be free.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2009 January 07, 07:20:46
I had read in another topic that XM was slowly freeing its donation files.  I was curious if they were still making progress on that, or if they had stopped. 

Paden is right - they've done nothing for ages, and are still a paysite. 


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Rissa on 2009 January 07, 11:29:49
If "in ages" means "this year", then you are right. They had one free release of a donation set in December. But before that there was a two or three months break, so they are making a progress, but not a very fast one. They promised to release one to two sets a month if I remember right though.

They still have 9 paysets though, and until these are gone they are considered pay. If they qualify for comparison was discussed a few sites back.
My personal opinion is that they do, at least for hairstyles since none of their hairs was ever pay, so if a comparison for a pay hair is needed to prevent people from paying and XM has a similar one, why not use it? But opinions don't matter here as long as there are facts.

And btw., the TSR one is just a recolor of the XM hairstyle...


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2009 January 07, 11:55:10
If "in ages" means "this year", then you are right. They had one free release of a donation set in December.But before that there was a two or three months break, so they are making a progress, but not a very fast one. They promised to release one to two sets a month if I remember right though.


They announced that they were going sans pay ages ago - and they didn't stick to releasing stuff as they indicated they would or they would have been free by now.

My personal opinion is that they do, at least for hairstyles since none of their hairs was ever pay, so if a comparison for a pay hair is needed to prevent people from paying and XM has a similar one, why not use it? But opinions don't matter here as long as there are facts.

Look, it's relatively simple. At other sites, they can mealy mouth about pay and what is not technically pay, while ignoring that the site is pay. Here at paysites must be destroyed, favouritism and ignoring paysites isn't really logical.  Seeing as the booty is all free, then we could have a rather pointless discussion about how file 1 from booty directory 1 owns file 2 from booty directory 2 - and what's the point?

This thread is supposed to drive away support for free paysite samples (which is basically what they are - they certainly don't put crap no one wants up for pay) and towards freesites, so they start to wonder why their traffic is down. If their traffic is down, then that means less people wandering in for free stuff and then considering paying them.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Rissa on 2009 January 07, 12:57:34
Seems like I worded it wrong... (typical ESL thing I think)

I meant to say that they still release a pay set for free every now and then, but not as often as they promised, with many breaks in between.
This makes me think if they ever are completely free. But they nevertheless are releasing the sets every now and then. They broke the time part of their promise, but they are still putting them up. Of course I'd prefer to see them completely free and finally see them release the remaining 9 sets.


I put up the other sentance up as personal opinion and as small font because I for myself would never think about buying a payset containing clothes or objects when I am only interested in hairfiles. So if someone told me where I could get a file for free which is very similar to a payfile I'd be totally happy if I didn't know about filesharing sites. Maybe that's the mentality of me as a person who calles herself a filesharer, not a pirate...


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Megabolt on 2009 January 07, 14:30:31
Thank you all for the explanations.  In this case, I ask you to ignore the XM vs TSR comparison of my post, and turn you're attention to the PeggyG vs Berneseland comparison in it.  We all know full well that comparison is a real paysite vs freesite.  Sorry for the mix up.


PeggyG shop junk
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd193/megabolt88/th_femaleclothing00091peggy.jpg) (http://s222.photobucket.com/albums/dd193/megabolt88/?action=view&current=femaleclothing00091peggy.jpg)
vs
Berneseland's creation from MTS2
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd193/megabolt88/th_free.jpg) (http://s222.photobucket.com/albums/dd193/megabolt88/?action=view&current=free.jpg)



Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2009 January 07, 17:45:06
I meant to say that they still release a pay set for free every now and then, but not as often as they promised, with many breaks in between.
This makes me think if they ever are completely free. But they nevertheless are releasing the sets every now and then. They broke the time part of their promise, but they are still putting them up. Of course I'd prefer to see them completely free and finally see them release the remaining 9 sets.

Well, at this stage it's not looking good - Sims 2 will be over, and maybe they'll skate on this one.  As it stands they've done a remarkably good PR job - everyone keeps saying they're free, but they're not.  They really have no impetus to actually go free, because this way they can have their cake and eat it too.

I put up the other sentance up as personal opinion and as small font because I for myself would never think about buying a payset containing clothes or objects when I am only interested in hairfiles. So if someone told me where I could get a file for free which is very similar to a payfile I'd be totally happy if I didn't know about filesharing sites. Maybe that's the mentality of me as a person who calles herself a filesharer, not a pirate...

Well, I didn't mean to be harsh with you, and don't believe I was - just logical.  :) This issue comes up about every ten pages, because people don't feel it's a paysite, and any font will lead to people taking it literally, as if it were the way things are.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Eskimo Pie on 2009 January 07, 17:59:03
 I never knew XM was a paysite until I came here. I only ever visited that site for the hair. Their objects stink anyways.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Pescado on 2009 January 07, 18:03:39
Well, I didn't mean to be harsh with you, and don't believe I was - just logical.  :) This issue comes up about every ten pages, because people don't feel it's a paysite, and any font will lead to people taking it literally, as if it were the way things are.
Yeah, well, you know how whiny people are. They'll interpret any form of disagreement as a personal attack.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2009 January 07, 18:13:19
Yeah, well, you know how whiny people are. They'll interpret any form of disagreement as a personal attack.

Well in this case, I think it was a difference of interpretation hampered by ESL (which I would never have guessed Rissa), but yes, this happens to me a lot. Particularly in the field of crime - it is apparently an affront that I know more than your average forum goer. :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: fway on 2009 January 08, 01:48:34
Lame ass paysite TSR's frontpage. FAIL.

(http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/4946/stoopidpe1.jpg) (https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1174)

MTS2's  frontpage is not only customizable, but also comes with glitter ponies (not pictured).
(http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/1072/winnarbk8.jpg) (https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1174)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: pinkyfriend on 2009 January 08, 02:21:45
tsr has always been crap to maneuver. Now it is just crappier!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Ashbashtus on 2009 January 08, 04:04:04
I love that MTS2 is customizable! I'm partial to the Mint Green layout myself. :)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Darqstar on 2009 January 08, 04:05:13
TSR's Ms. Barrow's version of a Simschool:

(http://v7images.ibibi.com/scaled/1046/w-440h-293-1046520.jpg)


and here we have TwoFlower's (http://modthesims2.com/download.php?t=265052) version of a simschool

(http://i40.tinypic.com/35d3vc8.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2009 January 08, 05:03:08
Sad thing is, MsBarrow's looks more like my school - even though the free one is closer to what I'd always hoped my school would be like.

I've never seen a two or three story school in my life, outside of college.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: EmilyTwitch on 2009 January 08, 05:11:27
In the tiny little town I used to live in in Ohio, the only school was K-12 and had three stories plus a basement.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: rum nate on 2009 January 08, 05:25:44
Ms. Barrow's looks like the elementary schools im my city. TwoFlower's looks like a few of the older high schools in my city. For the most part the schools here are 2+ stories. A few of the new ones are only one story, but that is all.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Missbonbon on 2009 January 08, 14:50:09
Yeah, well, you know how whiny people are. They'll interpret any form of disagreement as a personal attack.

Well in this case, I think it was a difference of interpretation hampered by ESL (which I would never have guessed Rissa), but yes, this happens to me a lot. Particularly in the field of crime - it is apparently an affront that I know more than your average forum goer. :D

I think the issue with people interpreting you as attacking them is written words cannot convey how someone feels. I think your the only person when I see post that I look for smileys. Because if there's no smileys then most times you mean what it was conveyed at.  :P

Sad thing is, MsBarrow's looks more like my school - even though the free one is closer to what I'd always hoped my school would be like.

I've never seen a two or three story school in my life, outside of college.

Yep. One of the middle schools I attended didn't even have a second story, and was one huge pentagon. I think the only redeeming factor about that school is they had a pool we could go swimming in during gym.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Anyerfillag on 2009 January 08, 15:26:42
So, TSR and MTS2 go for a version of tab viewing? Coincidence much?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Safety Pins on 2009 January 08, 15:41:06
Of Course! TSR doing anything shady and underhanded? Never.

Christina Aguilera by bruno of MTS2...
(http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn86/spookypokemaniac/simsshit/MTS2_bruno_418038_filmstrip_back2ba.jpg)

AND by TSR's own Chaz:
(http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn86/spookypokemaniac/simsshit/w-888h-650-112668.jpg)

Ohhhhh, fail.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2009 January 08, 16:29:13
Yeah, well, you know how whiny people are. They'll interpret any form of disagreement as a personal attack.

Well in this case, I think it was a difference of interpretation hampered by ESL (which I would never have guessed Rissa), but yes, this happens to me a lot. Particularly in the field of crime - it is apparently an affront that I know more than your average forum goer. :D

I think the issue with people interpreting you as attacking them is written words cannot convey how someone feels. I think your the only person when I see post that I look for smileys. Because if there's no smileys then most times you mean what it was conveyed at.  :P

I've learned to use smilies compulsively because of that. :D I write like a formal manual, so I need to use smilies and slang to sound less boring and less angry. Oooh and swears. :D I do slip occasionally and find myself having to reclarify - at the previous forum I used to haunt like I haunt this one, I would get warnings from mods, so I learnt the value of a smilie very quickly.

But I have put a :) only to have my logic scorned completely - some people just don't like to believe they could be wrong (not in any particular case that comes to mind, just generally) and will take you disagreeing with them as a personal affront.  Crime being the popular subject of the day, many people think they know stuff, and if someone contradicts them, they don't take it well. :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Missbonbon on 2009 January 08, 16:42:45
Yeah, well, you know how whiny people are. They'll interpret any form of disagreement as a personal attack.

Well in this case, I think it was a difference of interpretation hampered by ESL (which I would never have guessed Rissa), but yes, this happens to me a lot. Particularly in the field of crime - it is apparently an affront that I know more than your average forum goer. :D

I think the issue with people interpreting you as attacking them is written words cannot convey how someone feels. I think your the only person when I see post that I look for smileys. Because if there's no smileys then most times you mean what it was conveyed at.  :P

I've learned to use smilies compulsively because of that. :D I write like a formal manual, so I need to use smilies and slang to sound less boring and less angry. Oooh and swears. :D I do slip occasionally and find myself having to reclarify - at the previous forum I used to haunt like I haunt this one, I would get warnings from mods, so I learnt the value of a smilie very quickly.

But I have put a :) only to have my logic scorned completely - some people just don't like to believe they could be wrong (not in any particular case that comes to mind, just generally) and will take you disagreeing with them as a personal affront.  Crime being the popular subject of the day, many people think they know stuff, and if someone contradicts them, they don't take it well. :D

That I can agree with.  :P I've had the issue with trying to convey what I want to say to not be offensive and sometimes it ends up that way anyways. About the crime thing, I think most people don't take it well because it can vary and in some places it circumstantial. Some places laws can vary so whilst you have a vast amount of knowledge about crime in general, someone in New Zealand and a criminologist would know more about New Zealand laws.

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some people just don't like to believe they could be wrong

This will happen anywhere you go. Sometimes it easier to go "whoops" and sometimes it is not. But I'm sure you cannot deny that there are people out there who have a firm belief that they are always right, everything they do is right, and refuse to even go "Ok that's your opinion." Even when pointed out of a blunder on their part they will scavenge, trying to find other ways out because they cannot be wrong.  :P

The biggest thing that will peeve me though, is being hypocritical. Everyone does it, but it's those people who have the attitudes of "It's right because I said so." Even with no evidence to back up their cause/reasoning, and refuse to even recognize that when someone points out their mistakes, they just go "So?"  ::)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2009 January 08, 17:10:08
That I can agree with.  :P I've had the issue with trying to convey what I want to say to not be offensive and sometimes it ends up that way anyways. About the crime thing, I think most people don't take it well because it can vary and in some places it circumstantial. Some places laws can vary so whilst you have a vast amount of knowledge about crime in general, someone in New Zealand and a criminologist would know more about New Zealand laws.

Oh no - if it were a regional difference that would be one thing - but disputing actual worldwide stuff - like "all pedophiles were victims in childhood" or "the youth of today are more violent" or "gun crime is not caused by owning guns" or "all cops are stupid" - mostly popular media dross or stuff they got from CSI or Law and Order. If it were legislation in other areas of the world, that would be understandable, or if it was a personal perspective of crime, that would be understandable - that's a valid thing. But then to take one peice of anecdata and extrapolate it out to the whole phenomenology of crime - that's just wrong.

Unfortunately with law and order being an election platform for the last couple of decades, there is a lot of anecdata out there encouraged by the media.

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some people just don't like to believe they could be wrong
This will happen anywhere you go. Sometimes it easier to go "whoops" and sometimes it is not. But I'm sure you cannot deny that there are people out there who have a firm belief that they are always right, everything they do is right, and refuse to even go "Ok that's your opinion." Even when pointed out of a blunder on their part they will scavenge, trying to find other ways out because they cannot be wrong.  :P

Oh yeah - but they just bore me most of the time. I look for good debates, someone who'll give me a run for my money, rather than make it easy. :D And I do so hate it when they scavenge on a personal level - but I rarely retaliate because I don't take it so personally. This is just what you do - critique, always critique. I recently had someone "reveal" to Reflexsims forum I was a dirty pirate in order to justify why I was a thief, and they - using software cracks - were not*.  They ended up looking much the worse for it of course because they took it so personally.

*Normally I wouldn't have a problem with those who use software cracks, not being your mother and all, wouldn't tell you off. But in this situation the person was saying how much they love SecuRom, and it would stop thieves. I thought they should be disabused of the notion that they were not thieves, since they like foisting SecuRom on me so much.

The biggest thing that will peeve me though, is being hypocritical. Everyone does it, but it's those people who have the attitudes of "It's right because I said so." Even with no evidence to back up their cause/reasoning, and refuse to even recognize that when someone points out their mistakes, they just go "So?"  ::)

I think I've only done that once here to a troll who wanted me to agree that both paysites and anti-paysites are wrong. I refused and told them nope I was definately right. :D

Oh, and SafetyPins - linkage to the goodstuff?  :)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: oolongteadrinker on 2009 January 08, 17:20:01

Well, at this stage it's not looking good - Sims 2 will be over, and maybe they'll skate on this one.  As it stands they've done a remarkably good PR job - everyone keeps saying they're free, but they're not.  They really have no impetus to actually go free, because this way they can have their cake and eat it too.

My thoughts exactly. Their paysets are old and ugly, too. They would look nice if your aesthetic sense was trapped in 2001, maybe.  And if you've never heared of Adele... And if you didn't know there was a recession and had the cash to blow on ugly things.

I mean, seriously. There's a recession going on. House values are inverting. How can you justify buying pixels in times like this, (let alone other times?)



Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2009 January 08, 18:49:11
People who take what they see on a fictional show as fact are....idiots.  I understand how annoying it can be, its how I feel about shows like Charmed - people think paganism is like what they see in movies and TV - either glamorized, or vilified.

What's worse though is the advertisements for drugs - doctors should decide what to prescribe, not some ad exec.

And yes, Bruno's stuff is always really good :)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Rissa on 2009 January 08, 18:53:41
No personal attack felt here, I just had the feeling that I said the opposite I wanted to say, so I felt the need to correct what I said. I am a member here long enough to know how Calalily thinks about paysites, and I know that we have a different opinion about the use of paysite items, everyone who ever visits my site knows this.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2009 January 08, 19:13:47
My thoughts exactly. Their paysets are old and ugly, too. They would look nice if your aesthetic sense was trapped in 2001, maybe.  And if you've never heared of Adele... And if you didn't know there was a recession and had the cash to blow on ugly things.

I mean, seriously. There's a recession going on. House values are inverting. How can you justify buying pixels in times like this, (let alone other times?)

I don't know - booty donators? :D But I think it's pretty wrong to make exceptions for the amount of paysite we accept - is 10% donation files on a site enough to fight a little war for? It's really either all or nothing, because this started with a little concession for the net boom, and has continued on long after and increased as greed and the way things are done.  If we were to lose our focus and proclaim 10% or less paysites not really paysites, it sort of defeats the purpose and continues on longer than need be because there's no impetus to go 100% free.

People who take what they see on a fictional show as fact are....idiots.  I understand how annoying it can be, its how I feel about shows like Charmed - people think paganism is like what they see in movies and TV - either glamorized, or vilified.

What's worse though is the advertisements for drugs - doctors should decide what to prescribe, not some ad exec.

I can see how that would be annoying too - and religion, like crime is a highly charged and often personal thing. 

Advertising for prescription drugs here is banned - you're not allowed to whore your brand - you can say the symptoms and that there may be something, ask your doctor today.  But nothing specific.  I can't believe the amount of drug ads you get over there - like "Lithium - it's great!"

No personal attack felt here, I just had the feeling that I said the opposite I wanted to say, so I felt the need to correct what I said. I am a member here long enough to know how Calalily thinks about paysites, and I know that we have a different opinion about the use of paysite items, everyone who ever visits my site knows this.

Oh I think it's just segued into another conversation on the general topic, rather than you.  :-* I'm certainly not talking about you, just general griping brought on by Pescado's comment (as I said I didn't think that applied to our exchange) of what I hate :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2009 January 08, 22:59:44
The drug ads are awful - they didn't used to be legal, but this is what you get with 8 years of a government catering to the rich and ignoring the well being of the country.  Now, the new guys have a right mess to clean up and I really feel for them.  I just hope they put back in the Ad restrictions.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Kragey on 2009 January 09, 00:01:18
In the tiny little town I used to live in in Ohio, the only school was K-12 and had three stories plus a basement.

Same here, and I live in PA. Our schools had a surprisingly large amount of students.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Quinctia on 2009 January 09, 02:34:53
You can't pin the lift on the prescription ad ban on this administration, though...I believe they started popping up when I was still in high school, at least ten years ago, now.  (Ads for things like Clariten and Propecia.)  The debacle that was the 2000 election was during my first year of college.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Darqstar on 2009 January 09, 02:44:35
When I was growing up, lawyers couldn't advertise.  It was awesome. 


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Eskimo Pie on 2009 January 09, 06:36:01
When I was growing up, lawyers couldn't advertise.  It was awesome. 

wow..and how old are you???

*runs*  lol


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: neriana on 2009 January 09, 15:25:38
When I was growing up, lawyers couldn't advertise.  It was awesome. 

When my father worked for the bar association, he fought letting lawyers advertise in the state tooth and nail. He lost :P. Lots of lawyers start frothing at the mouth when they see law advertisements. And they go off on rants about how horrible the particular lawyer in the advertisement is...

Quote from: calalily
But then to take one piece of anecdata and extrapolate it out to the whole phenomenology of crime - that's just wrong.

Is there any subject in which people don't do this? It drives me nutty too, but I now tend to throw in a few links and run when people are discussing history. I treasure the little sanity I have.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2009 January 09, 16:49:34
No, but its not really the president who decides this stuff, either.  And Clinton had a republican congress for a good part of his administration, iirc.  The President might get the blame, but its congress that actually makes laws.

And if I see a lawyer's ad, I just assume he's a shyster or not really good and ignore it.  Not that I usually need a lawyer.

Personally, the ads I really get annoyed with are the ones for sugary crap, which then say its a healthy or nutritious - we've an epidemic of diabetes, especially a growing number of children with type II, and half of its the fault of ads.  The other half is parents not paying attention or knowing how to say no, granted, or being too dumb to realize that the ads are lying.
/soapbox


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2009 January 09, 17:59:02
Quote from: calalily
But then to take one piece of anecdata and extrapolate it out to the whole phenomenology of crime - that's just wrong.

Is there any subject in which people don't do this? It drives me nutty too, but I now tend to throw in a few links and run when people are discussing history. I treasure the little sanity I have.

Well I'm sure there are - but with crime, and opinions about crime which leads to voting behaviours. History rarely leads to deaths of others, but crime anecdata does and anecdata makes that okay. Opinions on crime with no basis of fact leads to lobby groups and then to someone else bearing the brunt of the false information floating around. It leads to the acceptance of torture, police brutality, a faulty criminal justice system and over-harsh sentencing laws.  I suppose that's what's so frustrating - anecdata will determine what sort of CJS I work in - whereas historians decide definitively what history is, and 1492 can be sold all they like, but it doesn't change the framework of the history discipline.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Darqstar on 2009 January 09, 23:49:05
When I was growing up, lawyers couldn't advertise.  It was awesome. 

wow..and how old are you???

*runs*  lol

Well, at least you're running as if I'd be able to put up a chase.   ;D  You could have really insulted me and said, "Walks slightly faster than normal."

I'm 47. 


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Ashbashtus on 2009 January 10, 00:32:37
When I was growing up, lawyers couldn't advertise.  It was awesome. 

wow..and how old are you???

*runs*  lol

Well, at least you're running as if I'd be able to put up a chase.   ;D  You could have really insulted me and said, "Walks slightly faster than normal."

I'm 47. 

47 42  ;) Let Pescado years work for you


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: pickles on 2009 January 10, 00:38:57
That's alright though. Most of the awesomest people I know are over 40.
Speaking of which, the youth-centric culture we've built for ourselves seems so disheartening to me. I heard "oh God, he's soooo old, what can he know about it?" somewhere the other day and it got me rather angry. If we refuse to learn from our elders then who are we learning from? Young people can be fun and all, but they (we I guess) simply haven't got the lifetime of experience that our parents and grandparents have.
  Also, modern dresses are fugly. Needs moar fluffy skirts and short heels and catseye glasses. And cigarette holders, even though I don't smoke.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: neriana on 2009 January 10, 01:52:08
Quote from: calalily
But then to take one piece of anecdata and extrapolate it out to the whole phenomenology of crime - that's just wrong.

Is there any subject in which people don't do this? It drives me nutty too, but I now tend to throw in a few links and run when people are discussing history. I treasure the little sanity I have.

Well I'm sure there are - but with crime, and opinions about crime which leads to voting behaviours. History rarely leads to deaths of others

Not true. "Our people were here before your people/your people have always done evil things" etc. leads to death on a very massive scale on a very regular basis. Recently, not understanding the history of the Middle East has led people to do incredibly stupid things there, and to find justifications for them.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: deelink on 2009 January 10, 02:40:30
A side note, I love history and enjoy nothing more than watching old footage or documentaries.  I believe it is vital that we understand humanity's mistakes and triumphs. It is the only way we can teach tolerance and understanding, and perhaps with such knowledge we can stop "history repeating itself". However having said that, there is little ethusiasm shown about topics like the history of the Israeli/Palestine conflict, the persectution of Jews, or even about the dangers of dictatorship/fundementalism. We seem to be throwing all of these things under the rug, well maybe a large majority of human kind will look back, but I don't know..to me it does seem that history is indeed repeating itself.

I guess it's like this, I was watching on You Tube "Dear Kitty: Remembering Anne Frank" which is a short documentary about Miep Gies, one of the Frank families aids, who helped them hide from the Nazis in WW2 Holland. And one of the comments that made me think said: "1,750,671 views paris hilton stars are blind, 1,598 views "Dear Kitty" Remembering Anne Frank. i'm not sure what to make of it but it's sad"

I don't mean to be preachy or anything, but I too am sad, that such education is falling into the gutter. Does nobody care anymore on what happened? I do :(



Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: heartless on 2009 January 10, 03:01:51
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Needs moar fluffy skirts and short heels and catseye glasses.

I completely concur... I love wearing stuff like that. My boyfriend likes those clothes on me too, including my puffy petticoat, which makes me smile. :)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Ashbashtus on 2009 January 10, 03:52:03
And one of the comments that made me think said: "1,750,671 views paris hilton stars are blind, 1,598 views "Dear Kitty" Remembering Anne Frank. i'm not sure what to make of it but it's sad"

Honestly, stuff like that is why the world (America at least) is going down the toilet.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Safety Pins on 2009 January 10, 06:35:20

Oh, and SafetyPins - linkage to the goodstuff?  :)

My apologies! :-X

Right here (http://www.modthesims2.com/download.php?t=207339).


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2009 January 10, 06:57:11
I'm almost 42.  Currently 36.

And I've always been crazy about history and odd facts.  Like Audrey Hepburn lived in Holland during the same time as Anne Frank, and in fact had family shot during the same time.  She thought that it was very likely that the group of three people mentioned in Anne Frank's diary included her family member [ I'd have to re-read for better details].

It bothers me alot, because right now, it seems like the Israelis learned the wrong lessons from the Nazis.  And no one wants to acknowledge that it was the Rom in those concentration camps first, not the Jews.  Its still okay to hate -them- because they don't have a country of their own, they don't pay taxes, they don't settle down like 'law-abiding' citizens.

Makes me sick, the whole mess - killing children on rooftops, making it nearly lethal to bury those children.  All we can do is try and shine as much light as we can, to balance it all.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2009 January 10, 07:52:47
Quote from: calalily
But then to take one piece of anecdata and extrapolate it out to the whole phenomenology of crime - that's just wrong.

Is there any subject in which people don't do this? It drives me nutty too, but I now tend to throw in a few links and run when people are discussing history. I treasure the little sanity I have.

Well I'm sure there are - but with crime, and opinions about crime which leads to voting behaviours. History rarely leads to deaths of others

Not true. "Our people were here before your people/your people have always done evil things" etc. leads to death on a very massive scale on a very regular basis. Recently, not understanding the history of the Middle East has led people to do incredibly stupid things there, and to find justifications for them.

Fair enough - I suppose that's why you run. :D But still, anecdata and misinformation can end up dictating my work conditions.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Pescado on 2009 January 10, 09:01:21
Speaking of which, the youth-centric culture we've built for ourselves seems so disheartening to me. I heard "oh God, he's soooo old, what can he know about it?" somewhere the other day and it got me rather angry. If we refuse to learn from our elders then who are we learning from?
The elder generation has ALWAYS detested those damn kids throughout the span of recorded history. As such, it can be demonstrated mathematically that people have been in a state of decline for a very long time, each successive generation more horrid than the previous. How do we know this? Quite simple: If A > B, and B > C, then A > C. As each previous generation has complained about the successive generation, it stands to reason that GN > GN+1, and as such, G0 must be greater than GWhatever We Have Now.

The solution is quite simple: We must kill all of those damn kids!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: decaffinatedmeowmix on 2009 January 10, 10:54:37
Speaking of which, the youth-centric culture we've built for ourselves seems so disheartening to me. I heard "oh God, he's soooo old, what can he know about it?" somewhere the other day and it got me rather angry. If we refuse to learn from our elders then who are we learning from?
The elder generation has ALWAYS detested those damn kids throughout the span of recorded history. As such, it can be demonstrated mathematically that people have been in a state of decline for a very long time, each successive generation more horrid than the previous. How do we know this? Quite simple: If A > B, and B > C, then A > C. As each previous generation has complained about the successive generation, it stands to reason that GN > GN+1, and as such, G0 must be greater than GWhatever We Have Now.

The solution is quite simple: We must kill all of those damn kids!

Thanks for the laugh. I didn't get the whole number formulas but the last part was great!
(although I'm sure if I wanted to learnz the formulas I probably could, but it's late ya know? And I need more coffee or some other excuse not too.)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Arghyle on 2009 January 10, 12:36:13
Soggy, I'm a little confused as to your argument about the US President getting the blame, when it's the Congress really in power - i.e. see above where you list Clinton's Republican Congress as wrong, wrong, wrong.  Under this logic that you hold to be true for Clinton - directly *negated* is your argument against the Bush administration which leaves under a Democratic Congress - a Dem Congress that voted against Freddie & Fannie being reigned in, mind you.  So - *your* logic holds as far as I can see that Republicans are evil, and Democrats are "the goodies."  Any argument holds as long as Dems are in the right??  Also - you DO know the history BEHIND the current economic crisis, right?  Please correct if I'm wrong - only going on previous correspondence...

Oh, and I left these political debates a while back because there was no way my ass WASN'T going to be handed to me - my being on the evil side of things and all, but what the Hell - I hate paysites, love what EVERYONE has done here on this phorum, and still have a right to free speech and all...  ;)  Don't get it in its entirety though - you DO know your fave guy won, right??  Why beat dead horses?  Why??

Also - just really tired of being quiet, quiet, quiet when I have certain feelings about how certain members here are free as hell to shout their opinions, and everyone else be damned - or shot down to the point of not returning.  Not the way I know PMBD.  Love it here, and need free speech to continue damn it.  I EXPECT to be shot down.  Can YOU accept it, in turn?? 

Off my damn soapbox.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: neriana on 2009 January 10, 18:38:26
Ugh. Okay, this is exactly what I mean about treasuring my sanity.

There is no "the history behind the economic crisis". There is no one true History, it is not mathematics. Random facts and trivia are not history. People are still arguing, heatedly, about what caused the Great Depression (and the English Civil War, the fall of Rome, different forms of slavery, everything more complex than basic facts). Anyone who tells you This Is Precisely Why We Are Where We Are regarding history is full of shit.

Pescado is completely right, every generation has thought the world was going down the toilet. Well, some people in that generation, who wrote about it -- not all of them. The ancient Greeks used to gripe about "kids these days" and how much better everyone was in "the old days". Not wanting to look up Anne Frank in one's leisure time, and preferring to look up something entertaining and current, doesn't mean one is an ignoramus. Knowing about Anne Frank does not mean one necessarily understands history better than one who doesn't.

Now I throw a link and run: History: A Very Short Introduction (http://www.amazon.com/History-Very-Short-Introduction-Introductions/dp/019285352X) by John Arnold.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2009 January 10, 20:30:39
What it means is I shouldn't post while barely awake.

What I was trying to say is that while some problems are patently the President's fault [foriegn affairs being notable], others are not, because the President has little real influence, like law making - yes, he or she can veto a bill, but if Congress really wants it to go through, they can override the veto, eventually.

The president is blamed alot of times for things he didn't actually do, because he's the most visible one.

As for laws, our current system is a bit broken - they tack in these stupid riders to bills that have nothing to do with the actual law - sometimes things that are pretty bad, so an otherwise good bill doesn't go through - and then there are the special interests, etc.

I'm not a democrat - I'm an independent - but I'm progressive socially and conservative fiscally, mostly.  The Republican party doesn't share my views in any way, anymore, so I tend to vote democrat - doesn't mean I think they are all that and a bag of chips.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: deelink on 2009 January 10, 23:14:13
I guess you are right Neriana, that just because someone did not look up something specific does not make them a bad or a stupid person. I understand that. But there are people out there that want to learn not because they are smart, but because they are curious about their feelings of compassion that are stirred up when you show them mass graves, shot children and the like. Human beings do love each other in some respect, we have to. And it's not like I'm saying that that feeling is dead, it just seems less nurtured, or maybe I'm being a stick in the mud because I seem to want to reflect, while other people just don't want to hear it. It's too depressing. So I was entertaining the idea, that if noone wants to face it, and indeed bury such feelings, does it make it more likely to happen? over and over again? I guess I am afraid of the alienation and the fear, that I am seeing manifested from everyone these days, young and old alike.

 :-* I don't mind if we continue to talk about free Sim stuff, BF is letting me FINALLY have the computer back on Monday, and I am going to play! Yay!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: oolongteadrinker on 2009 January 10, 23:37:54
you DO know your fave guy won, right?? 

No need to place ownership or anything. He's our guy, right?
Ideally, anyhow.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Pescado on 2009 January 11, 03:33:05
Pescado is completely right, every generation has thought the world was going down the toilet. Well, some people in that generation, who wrote about it -- not all of them.
Not everyone COULD write about it, and most people don't bother to actually write down what is a commonly held belief: That the new generation *IS* going down the terlet. This belief predates even the invention of terlets. And, of course, given that it has been true of EVERY generation, we can conclude via mathematical induction that humanity is, in fact, going down the terlet.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: neriana on 2009 January 11, 04:29:12
Pescado is completely right, every generation has thought the world was going down the toilet. Well, some people in that generation, who wrote about it -- not all of them.
Not everyone COULD write about it, and most people don't bother to actually write down what is a commonly held belief: That the new generation *IS* going down the terlet. This belief predates even the invention of terlets. And, of course, given that it has been true of EVERY generation, we can conclude via mathematical induction that humanity is, in fact, going down the terlet.

No we can't. We can conclude that a large number of people thought the next generation was going down the terlet, and that believing the world is getting worse has been common throughout history. Further, everyone who wrote about the next generation certainly did not think were worse than the ones before. And even if they had, just because literally everyone agreed on something (and that I'd like to see!), that would not necessarily make it true.

People very often believed the next generation was getting worse for reasons most of us would not consider legitimate today. Those darn women cutting their hair short! Those darn men growing it long! Ack, the servants are getting better-paid jobs, slaves are rising to prominent positions, more people can vote, we don't hang horse thieves! The idea that just because a certain, even large, number of people think or thought something, that thing must have been/must be true (or, for that matter, untrue) is, well, silly.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Pescado on 2009 January 11, 05:29:02
People very often believed the next generation was getting worse for reasons most of us would not consider legitimate today.
That is because YOU are part of the PROBLEM. Viewed from the perspective of someone with higher standards, like if you could resurrect one of the elders of many generations past to see what has happened now, they would be absolutely horrified at how bad things have gotten.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2009 January 11, 06:28:54
Or they'd go into a culture-shocked induced coma...


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2009 January 11, 15:45:59
Oh, and my fav guy as you put it, didn't win, even if she's likely to be Secretary of State :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2009 January 11, 19:15:48
(http://i42.tinypic.com/293x2t5.jpg)

pwns:

(http://www.simplan-x.com/images2/themes/adecnouv/adec3-1.jpg)

Nice one found here (http://www.simcontrol.es/sims/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=41&Itemid=30)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Ashbashtus on 2009 January 11, 22:10:37
*sadly snips the preeties*

pwns:

*snips this atrocity with glee*

Nice one found here (http://www.simcontrol.es/sims/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=41&Itemid=30)


Nom! Great find Cala! I especially like the dining area in the first pic.  :)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: neriana on 2009 January 11, 23:45:25
Or they'd go into a culture-shocked induced coma...

They'd most likely catch an illness and die almost immediately.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: child_of_air on 2009 January 17, 06:14:33
Oh, nice find! *runs off to download* ;)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: pickles on 2009 January 22, 03:59:16
Evi: 
(http://v7images.ibibi.com/scaled/1040/w-650h-650-1040681.jpg)


vs.

AAS casual sweaters (http://www.all-about-style.com/adult_maca4.html) and outerwear (http://www.all-about-style.com/adult_maout.html) :
(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg286/pickles_pirate/MAautumn1_AAS.jpg)

(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg286/pickles_pirate/MAautumn2_AAS.jpg)

(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg286/pickles_pirate/MAautumn3_AAS.jpg)



Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: oolongteadrinker on 2009 January 22, 06:05:52
I'm sure Evi is quite proud of those ugly sweater sets. That red scarf thing? Seriously? I wish these tsr twats would not make shit that they or anyone else wouldn't wear irl.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2009 January 22, 06:18:46
Is that a scarf? I thought someone had given him a horrid pair of tube socks and they were hanging on the sweater from static cling... And lots of people torture kids with stuff they hate. Look at the moms putting ruffled butt tights on their little girls... Yeah, it looks cute and adorable, but unless a kid is wearing diapers they whine like all hell about the lace poking them in the ass when they sit down. Been there! :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: oolongteadrinker on 2009 January 22, 17:13:23
Is that a scarf? I thought someone had given him a horrid pair of tube socks and they were hanging on the sweater from static cling... And lots of people torture kids with stuff they hate. Look at the moms putting ruffled butt tights on their little girls... Yeah, it looks cute and adorable, but unless a kid is wearing diapers they whine like all hell about the lace poking them in the ass when they sit down. Been there! :D

Oh, my parents tortured me with stuff I'd never wear, too. Mostly stuff that was cute or acceptable in the old country.
As for the red thing, I think we can agree on "red fabric of indeterminate function/origin"


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Eskimo Pie on 2009 January 23, 00:43:21
Is that a scarf? I thought someone had given him a horrid pair of tube socks and they were hanging on the sweater from static cling... And lots of people torture kids with stuff they hate. Look at the moms putting ruffled butt tights on their little girls... Yeah, it looks cute and adorable, but unless a kid is wearing diapers they whine like all hell about the lace poking them in the ass when they sit down. Been there! :D


HA!HA! My sister does that to her 2 year old .Ruffled bottoms all the time! I did not think they made them for big kids tho. If they do, my niece will be wearing them!!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2009 January 23, 01:44:12
Up til size 6x. *looks innocent*


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Immortelle on 2009 January 23, 02:55:50
I could never understand why parents choose to abuse their kids like that.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2009 January 23, 05:11:59
*in her best Tevya voice* I can tell you why in one word: Tradition! I could do a rip on the song, but don't think now would be the best time... :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Eskimo Pie on 2009 January 23, 14:53:53
because it is our right as parents to drive our kids nuts. The ruffle underpants are payback for the 9 months we carried them around ;)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2009 January 23, 16:00:31
Yeah, but maybe we ought to keep in mind that these same little twerps that we torture so badly with ruffled-butt tights will be selecting our old age homes if we can't do it for ourselves... Ya know, we could be in a royal shitload of trouble, come to think of it... yikes!!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Scurvy Cat on 2009 January 23, 21:18:52
Yep, and those "cute" baby pictures of the little tyke picking its nose, or trying to eat a frog--those are to be held until sometime in the future when the teenager's boyfriend or girlfriend comes over so they can be shown for maximum effect.

Edited for nitpicky grammatical reasons.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: ChaosInAMinor on 2009 January 23, 21:35:55
When I was about 14 12, I brought my FIRST EVAR BOYFRIEND home to meet my mom and she immediately busted out the baby pictures. I was pretty much constantly getting into mischief as a kid, so there were a lot of embarrassing ones. My sister is about a year older than I am and my brother is two years older, so when we were 1, 2, and 3, there were a lot of "all three of them in the bath together!" pictures. Haha. I was incredibly embarrassed. At this point, I don't think I'd mind so much.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Tabby on 2009 January 24, 00:54:16
 My mom used to pull out my potty training pictures. It sucked, alot. She even sent them to my school and had one of the teachers she was friends with put it up in his classroom, in an effort to get my boy crazy behind to be embarrassed (LOL!) into hiding.  :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Immortelle on 2009 January 24, 02:03:37
So this is the parents revenge for all the shit they have to put up with.  Right.  Now I understand.  Revenge is always good.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2009 January 24, 03:26:14
My mom took pictures of me at age 0 in the nude, in a playboy bunny centerfold pose, complete with huge glasses, and sent them to my dad in 'Nam.

I didn't bring guys home until college.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2009 January 24, 06:04:33
All of my incriminating baby pics were lost in a fire when the building my sister lived in burnt. She had stolen them from my dad in an attempt to put them into an album because I was the only kid out of them all that didn't have a baby album made for them. Oh well. I do have a few, but they're pretty harmless and some are actually rather startling, to be honest. They show a little girl gazing off into space with a look of wonder on her and it makes me curious as hell as to where she got lost in the shuffle to grow up. She may be around inside somewhere, but I've not been aware of that side of me since I was that age, you know?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Scurvy Cat on 2009 January 24, 09:15:23
There's one of me in a little cowgirl outfit riding a stuffed rocking horse in front of the TV waving pistols.  Dated about 1952. 

Oddly enough I can't stand Westerns now.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: keirra on 2009 January 24, 09:17:01
That sounds adorable. Not embarrassing at all.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Immortelle on 2009 January 24, 13:55:52
My mum was huge on stuffing me into cordrouy flares and hideously coloured skivvies.  That or big fluffy dresses covered with lace and terrible colours like pea green.  Never dressed me up in a costume though.  My sister did, but she did ballet.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Anyerfillag on 2009 January 24, 14:29:26
My mum adores Westerns, and has seen pretty much all of them as she grew up on them as a child. She scares me with her childish glee when one comes on!

The only embarrasing picture of me is when I was only a year old; we were on holiday in Jersey and I was swanning along on all fours around the edge of the hotel pool butt naked. My dad took a photo of my mum in the pool laughing her head off, and just the back view of me and several grannies in smiling at me. Good god it hurts to see it now :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Scurvy Cat on 2009 January 24, 17:25:22
That sounds adorable. Not embarrassing at all.

Now it's funny.  WHen I was 14, however....


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2009 January 24, 17:54:55
Well, you could have told the guys that you could always rope them in and put a brand on them if they fucked you over... Just an idea.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2009 January 24, 19:27:44
My mom made us shorts and halter tops - comfy, practical clothing.  I don't think we -ever- did ruffled pants, even when we were really little.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Devilfish on 2009 January 24, 22:08:18
My mom made our own clothes and cut our hair, so most pictures of that era show a very disgruntled little troll dressed in old curtains with a bush on her head. Thankfully my dad's company took off and they started actually buying me clothes by the time I reached puberty :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2009 January 24, 22:25:08
My mom made our own clothes and cut our hair, so most pictures of that era show a very disgruntled little troll dressed in old curtains with a bush on her head. Thankfully my dad's company took off and they started actually buying me clothes by the time I reached puberty :D

:D Oh, that sounds very familiar! Luckily my mom's a pretty darn good seamstress, though. Except pants. I hate to say it, but nearly all the pants she made for me were awful.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2009 January 24, 23:05:11
My mom is too - the only problem was era fashions - never liked 70s styles


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2009 January 25, 01:27:21
My mother would buy a bolt or two of fabric and patterns in four different sizes and go to town on her Singer sewing machine. We all wore the same style dresses out of the same fabrics, you name it. I didn't have jeans until she started her own business and it took off. I felt so GOOD wearing my purple bell-bottoms and tie-dye shirt...


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: heartless on 2009 January 25, 01:53:25
Quote
My mom took pictures of me at age 0 in the nude, in a playboy bunny centerfold pose, complete with huge glasses, and sent them to my dad in 'Nam.

I didn't bring guys home until college.

Any embarassing baby photos of me that might exist are suddenly seeming less and less embarassing...
Except for this one that was one taken when I was about four, sitting on the toilet with a big grin on my face. Why my mother thought it was a good idea to come up on me in the bathroom and take it, I will never know.  :D  >:(


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: ChaosInAMinor on 2009 January 26, 04:01:12
My mom's a great seamstress. I had mostly store bought clothes because she rarely had time to make us clothes and write/take care of my mentally handicapped brother/ make sure my sister and I weren't getting into too much trouble, but I absolutely adored this dress she made me when I was about 3. It was a sailor style dress, sleeveless, made in white fabric with blue flowers. I cried so hard when I outgrew it. You would have thought my dog died or something. I wouldn't let her give it away to the battered women and children's center she volunteered at with the rest of the clothes I outgrew, like she usually did. I'm pretty sure it's in some box in my grandmother's storage unit, well preserved. :D

My mom also gave me horrible haircuts. She offered to cut my hair about a year ago and I backed away with fear in my eyes going "Oh God no, no, no..." Lucky for me, she has a good sense of humor. Then again, if my dad had his way, all his kids would have had buzz cuts for the first ten years of their life. My mom allowed it for my brother, but objected to them for my sister and I.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Scurvy Cat on 2009 January 26, 14:06:35
Quote
My mom took pictures of me at age 0 in the nude, in a playboy bunny centerfold pose, complete with huge glasses, and sent them to my dad in 'Nam.

I didn't bring guys home until college.

Any embarassing baby photos of me that might exist are suddenly seeming less and less embarassing...
Except for this one that was one taken when I was about four, sitting on the toilet with a big grin on my face. Why my mother thought it was a good idea to come up on me in the bathroom and take it, I will never know.  :D  >:(

Like I said, parents take that kind of picture for future payback.

I guess it's good that I've never had kids.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Devilfish on 2009 January 28, 13:25:54
Pick a fandom. Any fandom. There's the one that makes this:

(http://v7images.ibibi.com/221/221533.jpg)
http://www.thesimsresource.com/members/10126/downloads/browse/category/sims2/search/sims%202%20season

Or the one that makes this:

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b33/cosmic_charly/simsmisc/MTS2_Delphy_157232_MTS2_animated_ca.jpg)
http://my.modthesims2.com/download.php?t=101919

Sure, TSR. EA loves you because you're just soooo much better than MTS2 ::)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: neriana on 2009 January 28, 18:23:02
Imo, EA does love TSR, but only because EA sucks. If they can get all modders to charge for stuff, EA will have a much easier time nickle and diming their customers themselves. Plus, since paysite crap is crap, EA won't look bad in comparison.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2009 January 28, 18:34:11
That works in theory, but a good portion of the EA store stuff is as crappy if not more so, than the stuff sold on paysites.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2009 January 28, 19:47:55
Lots of people pay for shit in real life, it's called fertilizer and helps the pretty things grow. This, well, it's just garbage that pollutes our games, computers and down load folders. Trash downloads are trash. EA and pay sites alike are excellent at fucking with us in whatever way they can. They do it for love of money. The free creators do it for love of the game. I'll take something that came from game love, thanks.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Immortelle on 2009 January 28, 22:29:48
I suspect TSR have been paying EA royalties, hence the reason why EA is so sweet on TSR but trying to play at neutral in the whole paysite debate, which is incredabily hipocritical.  (Sorry about the spelling today folks, its hot and hard to think right now.)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Sigmund on 2009 January 29, 00:03:37
That would certainly explain a few things, Meanie. I've always wondered why EA is so tolerant of TSR-- the more money people put towards their downloads, surely the less they have to spend on things like SPs and EPs? If EA is getting a portion, however, they would still be getting money either way.

ETA: After I saw this at TSR, I had to add it to the list:

(http://v7images.ibibi.com/558/558140.jpg)

Compared to Ailias's chessboard at MTS2, which can be placed anywhere:

(http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/uu125/snarkysnowlfake/MTS2_Ailias_314332_ailiaschesstable.jpg)

ETA2: I changed the TSR pic to a different chess board. It didn't seem like a fair comparison since the creator has (apparently) left TSR but was unable to get their work off the site. I much prefer this one for a comparison pic anyway. :)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SimARR on 2009 January 29, 02:28:01
The TSR chess thing is by Callisto who has long ago left TSR and is now a mod/admin at Natural Sims... I know its horible, but I don't think TSR will let her get rid of it.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2009 January 29, 02:51:04
No, she doesn't even do ugly well.  Gualta though - she makes the most gorgeous ugly, broken down stuff ever.  I know her broken kitchen is up over on MTS2 now, I found it while looking for some new kitchen stuff to use.  And her stuff is free.  [Of course she's also done some just plain gorgeous stuff too.]

Buntah's stuff just is....blech.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Immortelle on 2009 January 29, 03:40:27
Buntah chose her name well.  That is the only positive thing I have to say about her.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Sigmund on 2009 January 29, 04:00:07
The TSR chess thing is by Callisto who has long ago left TSR and is now a mod/admin at Natural Sims... I know its horible, but I don't think TSR will let her get rid of it.

Thanks for letting me know... I changed the picture.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: siberiansunset on 2009 January 31, 07:52:16
Here's a blatant pwn:)

TSR SHIT: (http://v7images.ibibi.com/scaled/1107/w-867h-650-1107706.jpg)

vs.

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y265/siberiansunset/MTS2_phoenix_phaerie_861805_mts2_ti.jpg)

Sheez they "try" and always get PWNED ::)! Rock on Phoenix Phaerie!!!!!!!! :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: paperbeth on 2009 January 31, 08:01:17
Must... have... that... kitchen......  *drooling*


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: siberiansunset on 2009 January 31, 08:05:57
http://modthesims2.com/download.php?t=314684 (http://modthesims2.com/download.php?t=314684) That way ya don't drown yoself@ (Only acceptable to drown yo'self in rum) :D



Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Eskimo Pie on 2009 January 31, 08:16:49
 I love Phoenix Phaerie stuff...but she uploads to the TSR as well ( or she did at one point...last time I checked she did)  I am afraid that she might be one creator who gets sucked in at TSR.  Well if the TSR was smart they would try to get her because she is awesome.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: siberiansunset on 2009 January 31, 08:21:48
Geez you're right. *oppssy* Well since she hasn't posted this kitchen to TSR (I hope not anytime..but eh her perogative:) ) I s'pose it is still Ok. LOL thanks for bringing that to my attention..I had no idea! =>blame on the rumz ::)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Eskimo Pie on 2009 January 31, 08:32:28
 well really she still is free...because she is not tsr only.. she offers her stuff at MTS2 so  I say she still is free. Just sad she post her yummies on the tsr


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2009 January 31, 16:14:44
As long as I can remember she's had a page at TSR, but they haven't managed to lure her yet, so I'd say its not going to happen, though I'm sure they've tried.



Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Eskimo Pie on 2009 February 01, 01:30:57
  checked she is an SA, but all of her stuff is free and she has not uploaded the kitchen there. It is amusing she put it up at mts2 but not the tsr...kinda of a snub to the TSR! lol


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: rum nate on 2009 February 03, 04:48:16
She said that she hates version 7, and wont upload anything to TSR until they get it fixed. Since she can't say she uploads to ModtheSims, she just said that some of you know the other site I upload to, so you will find the kitchen there.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2009 February 03, 05:58:24
Someone did a very pretty recolour of the Manor House kitchen and I yoinked it!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: aeris on 2009 February 03, 12:48:49
Are all SAs leaving the ship? Was browsing Kibanana (sp?) page and found out he now upload stuff at the reflex forum http://www.reflexsimsforum.com/showthread.php?t=22149 (http://www.reflexsimsforum.com/showthread.php?t=22149)

(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc48/CASSANDRE1106/private/DESIGNER%20AREA/ACC.jpg)

Now look at this fugly orange bag by Huabanzhu at TSR.Did she copy him or what?

(http://v7images.ibibi.com/scaled/1101/w-504h-420-1101840.jpg)

I smell moar butthurt!  ;D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: crunk on 2009 February 03, 14:48:51
Kibanana/Cassandre is a woman I'm pretty sure. Also, unfortunately Reflex has quite a few TSR people who post there as well, so I'm not going to hold my breath.

Edited because I can haz spellcheck!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: aeris on 2009 February 03, 17:25:37
I thought it was guy  ;D
But you're right Crunk,i did noticed that some TSR people visit that forum often. Since there is a debate thread there,i still can't understand why some are still members of TSR. :'(


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2009 February 03, 17:52:12
Because at the end of the day, no matter what information you give an idiot, they're still an idiot and incapable of change for the better. Sad, but true.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: aeris on 2009 February 03, 23:22:43
Paden,you never fail to make me laugh ;D And it's so true,i agree with you.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: siberiansunset on 2009 February 04, 01:01:37
LOL- Actually their debate forum (particularly the TSR sharing info one) is what made me decide to finally say FU to TSR:)

Oh well...but anywho I still like reflex though because several of my fav creators are there and I like getting the updated pretties:)

Newaze I'm surprised the SA's are just sitting there...I would take off if I were them. Thoma$$ has things in store fo' sho'. :-X

ETA: To make more understandable.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: keirra on 2009 February 04, 01:09:25
siberiansunset, please use your words. Chat-speak is lazy and annoying.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: siberiansunset on 2009 February 04, 01:19:31
I guess I am lazy. :o
And last i checked this is a form of "chat".  ???
Thanks Paden for clarifying-I'll make sure my words are easier to read next time!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2009 February 04, 01:20:45
You're normally much more coherent than this. I enjoy your humour, though, but please do type out the words so I don't mistake one thing for another. :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: autumnrose on 2009 February 04, 04:14:08
Because at the end of the day, no matter what information you give an idiot, they're still an idiot and incapable of change for the better.

OT But it's time for a new sig line, and this will do nicely.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: oolongteadrinker on 2009 February 05, 15:45:39
LOL- Actually their debate forum (particularly the TSR sharing info one) is what made me decide to finally say FU to TSR:)

Oh well...but anywho I still like reflex though because several of my fav creators are there and I like getting the updated pretties:)

Newaze I'm surprised the SA's are just sitting there...I would take off if I were them. Thoma$$ has things in store fo' sho'. :-X

ETA: To make more understandable.
A lot of their "updates" aren't even current, though. For example. Today's update included this http://www.digitalperversion.net/gardenofshadows/index.php?topic=6905.0 which has been around since oct 2008. It promotes a lot of fugly TSR shit.

WNF provides better updates. And updates on items that are actually new. (and free) 100% less fugly! 100% less TSRshit
I believe WNF reported on that coffeetable first, btw. Reflex forum too busy sucking tsr dick to notice in time, I think.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2009 February 05, 16:16:37
Reflex forum too busy sucking tsr dick to notice in time, I think.

Reflex is free as the next freesite you know - and they host a lot of free content, unconnected with Reflexsims the paysite.  They have been very receptive to the whole coconut thing - very receptive - here and Reflex are the only places I currently update.   They have a lot of subscribers (the people who really needed to know this stuff) who read coconut's blog with an open mind.  They even expressed sorrow that someone tried to "out" (because there's no part of me that's in - srsly) as a pirate, and tarnish my reputation with that.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: oolongteadrinker on 2009 February 05, 16:21:55
Reflex forum too busy sucking tsr dick to notice in time, I think.

Reflex is free as the next freesite you know - and they host a lot of free content, unconnected with Reflexsims the paysite.  They have been very receptive to the whole coconut thing - very receptive - here and Reflex are the only places I currently update.   They have a lot of subscribers (the people who really needed to know this stuff) who read coconut's blog with an open mind.  They even expressed sorrow that someone tried to "out" (because there's no part of me that's in - srsly) as a pirate, and tarnish my reputation with that.

Oh, I'm aware of that. I visit the boards now and then. And the recolor contest was nice. I just think that promoting tsr reflects badly on them, as well as making for badDONOTWANT updates. I have no clue what's going on on TSR. who's popular, and such. So I can't really say that their reporting on TSR items are fresh off the assembly line. But their reporting on free stuff is stale as a result, regardless.

WNF http://wickednoukfamily.com/forums/index.php?c=4
Superior updates. Period.

While I'm at it, Spring4sims can suck it, too!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2009 February 05, 16:28:07
I just think that promoting tsr reflects badly on them, as well as making for badDONOTWANT updates. I have no clue what's going on on TSR. who's popular, and such. So I can't really say that their reporting on TSR items are fresh off the assembly line. But their reporting on free stuff is stale as a result, regardless.

It's not about who is the superior free site with updates.  This isn't a forum where freesite bashing is cool - it's in the FAQ.  You can express sadness that they choose to update TSR stuff, but lay off them.  I mean do you want to turn the situation from friendly with TSR and pirates to just friendly with TSR? Will that help paysites end?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Sigmund on 2009 February 05, 19:04:01
While I'm at it, Spring4sims can suck it, too!

I'm not following you. AFAIK, Spring4Sims is just a finds site. They don't have any content on it.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: chemistrycourtney on 2009 February 05, 19:13:55
I don't see the issue with spring4sims either.  It's updated with new content, and it is just a list.  It's clear and straightforward though.   That's what I look for in a finds list.  Clear, straightforward content that looks nice and is easy to find.  Seems like spring4sims managed that pretty well, actually. 


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2009 February 05, 20:03:55
Well, it does look a little biased towards certain sites.  But if its a free site who cares?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: oolongteadrinker on 2009 February 05, 22:07:09
Well, it does look a little biased towards certain sites.  But if its a free site who cares?
A personal grudge, nothing more. Seeing as PMBD is not a place to air out personal dislikes, I'll save that for a blog or something :-X
You can express sadness that they choose to update TSR stuff, but lay off them.  I mean do you want to turn the situation from friendly with TSR and pirates to just friendly with TSR? Will that help paysites end?
Good point. Saddened yes. Hostile no.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: rum nate on 2009 February 09, 01:15:07
Ok so we have this paysite school from TSR:

(http://v7images.ibibi.com/scaled/1046/w-440h-293-1046520.jpg)

And then we have this beautiful school from Garden of Shadows. I love this place, and I have only walked through it once. It has to be the best school for the sims there is.

(http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt257/nate1678/snapshot_0000000b_56961a83.jpg)

This one picture does is no justice, you have to go look at it, and even the pictures of it there don't do it full justice, you have to actually look at it in game to fully appreciate it.

http://www.digitalperversion.net/gardenofshadows/index.php?topic=9974.0


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: eefje on 2009 February 09, 21:17:50
Kibanana/Cassandre is a woman I'm pretty sure. Also, unfortunately Reflex has quite a few TSR people who post there as well, so I'm not going to hold my breath.

Edited because I can haz spellcheck!

Cassandre has actually really quit tsr, at least that's what she said at RSF.

Also, sorry to intefere in the conversation, please carry on.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: aeris on 2009 February 09, 22:36:27

Cassandre has actually really quit tsr, at least that's what she said at RSF.

Also, sorry to intefere in the conversation, please carry on.


I just checked,she also said that at TSR.I do wonder why she left,but...who cares?

Now look at this fugly "chandelier" by Dot.
(http://v7images.ibibi.com/scaled/1112/w-873h-650-1112356.jpg)


And this magnificent one, by Simarchitect@MTS2 (looks as good in game as it does in the picture!)

http://www.modthesims2.com/download.php?t=317492
(http://thumbs2.modthesims2.com/img/2/3/1/7/9/5/MTS2_SimArchitect_871832_snapshot_00000001_76954b5c_copy.jpg)





Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: vexed on 2009 February 09, 23:17:54
I hate you.  And love you.  I've been looking for a decent chandelier for EVAR.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: kenmtl on 2009 February 10, 01:24:16
Why does that woman insist on continuing to show the fucking shape X 2. It's bad enough we have to look at it once. It's probably quite rare that people look at an object and are confused as to which part of it is the shape.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2009 February 10, 01:25:26
I just checked,she also said that at TSR.I do wonder why she left,but...who cares?

Um, we should? TSR does - she had more downloads than some of the FAs and they were discussing fast tracking her as an FA in some of their chatlogs.  She left because of coconut - and due to the kindness of Reflexsims offering her support and a free artist slot.  Yay for Cassandre leaving!  :-*


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2009 February 10, 01:26:19
But not rare for -her-.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2009 February 10, 03:31:16
*dances for Cassandre leaving TSR*


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: siberiansunset on 2009 February 11, 01:38:29
Yay! I'm glad to hear @ Cassandre getting away from TSR! I love her stuff (the Adagio dining-love it!)  Anyways-I have been looking for an awesome chandelier! Thanks Aeris ;)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: aeris on 2009 February 11, 05:21:13
You're welcome  ;) I also like her stuff (free and always good looking).TSR must be really pissed off, now that one of their potential FAs is gone. ;D Plus with the maddisim fiasco,it's a good way to start 2009!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: crunk on 2009 February 11, 13:23:04
This means I can love her stuff without guilt now, right? YAY! Srsly. One of the first things I ever downloaded was a wicker set by her and I still have it.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2009 February 11, 14:09:32
No guilt necessary - let her feel the love.  :-*


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: El Diablo on 2009 February 13, 16:45:53
Plus with the maddisim fiasco,it's a good way to start 2009!
What's the deal with Madisim? Googled all over the place and searched on PMBD for Madisim, Madison and got zippo. Checked TSR and there's nothing on his minisite. This was the only reference I could find. Can anybody fill me in?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Anouk on 2009 February 13, 17:10:25
Looks like Tantra completely stopped being an FA, or is that old news? You know, from http://www.fashiontwist.org/


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2009 February 13, 17:10:40
Plus with the maddisim fiasco,it's a good way to start 2009!
What's the deal with Madisim? Googled all over the place and searched on PMBD for Madisim, Madison and got zippo. Checked TSR and there's nothing on his minisite. This was the only reference I could find. Can anybody fill me in?

I did a couple of pages back - from coconut.  Here's the quote - it's not coming up on any searches for me either.  :-\

Yes. He hasn't given a formal goodbye, but he has told people privately, which made its way to coconut.  Someone at TSR (presumably with the ability to give the idea) hinted that he would go to the EA camp, and then hatshepsut was chosen as the token lot builder.  That, the feeling that he's going to be replaced, and low downloads made him realise it was only a matter of time until they fired him, so he deleted everything and left.

Edit: Nouk it looks like that happened in July this year.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: El Diablo on 2009 February 13, 17:29:11
Plus with the maddisim fiasco,it's a good way to start 2009!
What's the deal with Madisim? Googled all over the place and searched on PMBD for Madisim, Madison and got zippo. Checked TSR and there's nothing on his minisite. This was the only reference I could find. Can anybody fill me in?

I did a couple of pages back - from coconut.  Here's the quote - it's not coming up on any searches for me either.  :-\

Yes. He hasn't given a formal goodbye, but he has told people privately, which made its way to coconut.  Someone at TSR (presumably with the ability to give the idea) hinted that he would go to the EA camp, and then hatshepsut was chosen as the token lot builder.  That, the feeling that he's going to be replaced, and low downloads made him realise it was only a matter of time until they fired him, so he deleted everything and left.

Edit: Nouk it looks like that happened in July this year.
Appreciate the info, thanks. Too bad, good builder. TSR shoots itself in the foot yet again, what a surprise. I hear through a friend in the "inner circle" that there's major grumbling over the crappy new V7 and he wouldn't be surprised to see more defections.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: rum nate on 2009 February 13, 18:21:43
Nouk it looks like that happened in July this year.

Calalily, You know that July this year hasn't come yet, either that or I slept for a long, long time.  ;)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2009 February 13, 18:31:44
Appreciate the info, thanks. Too bad, good builder. TSR shoots itself in the foot yet again, what a surprise. I hear through a friend in the "inner circle" that there's major grumbling over the crappy new V7 and he wouldn't be surprised to see more defections.

Yes, I would think it hateful - it's so busy and I've seen a lot of complaining.  They really screwed that makeover. *Crosses fingers for resignations*

Nouk it looks like that happened in July this year.

Calalily, You know that July this year hasn't come yet, either that or I slept for a long, long time.  ;)

Crap - years blended with thesis writing - and I took a whole 3 hours off for the New Year. :D July last year.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Jojoba on 2009 February 13, 20:52:13
Looks like Tantra completely stopped being an FA, or is that old news? You know, from http://www.fashiontwist.org/

Yup they left back in July (http://phorum.mustnotbenamed.com/index.php/topic,1683.msg99750.html#msg99750), like Calalily said. Have not heard much about it, but seems there was a falling about after some other clothes creators became FA. Their site is pretty nice  :P Am glad that they continued creating -  and for free!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: oolongteadrinker on 2009 February 20, 01:12:12
I thought I'd check out WDS. I don't know why. I guess their level of fail is amusing.
They have a kitchen set
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w150/veggiedeggie/wdskitchenpayshit.jpg)

Totally pwned by buggybooz http://nene.modthesims2.com/download.php?t=278085
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w150/veggiedeggie/MTS2_buggybooz_776445_trashcompa-1.jpg)(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w150/veggiedeggie/MTS2_buggybooz_732918_main.jpg)(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w150/veggiedeggie/MTS2_buggybooz_737923_breakfast--ba.jpg)(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w150/veggiedeggie/newfridgeandshelves.jpg)
I'll stop before it gets embarrassing.
Buggy's always adding to this set. Improving it. Updating, tweaking, modifying. This in contrast to the "hurry slap the shit together, good enough for government work, $$$ pay me, fucker" paysite mentality.

Buggy does this out of love, and truly loves this set. Yeah, its good now, but it could always be improved. A class act.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Moonie on 2009 February 20, 08:07:11
I love buggy's kitchen set. I try not to use it in every house, but it's just so hard...


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2009 February 20, 22:41:14
Eventually I'll download it - its very pretty, but I almost always end up using the expansion Numenor and MaryLou did for the counterculture by maxis.  Its inexpensive and very charming.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: eternal_darkness on 2009 February 20, 22:59:26
I think I've used every color of Buggy's kitchen in every one of my houses. No shame ;)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2009 February 20, 23:03:37
I've not used it yet, but plan to remedy that tonight. :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2009 February 21, 09:08:28
In a clear win, PMBD owns TSR.

(http://v7images.ibibi.com/1123/1123175.jpg)

Hideous trash compared with beautiful - stop trying to imitate Nouk, TSR - you fail.

(http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/1305/longcurlspv650dp9.jpg)

Drool over this in sharkbait. :D And I'd like to see TSR link to the mesh. :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: lorikay on 2009 February 21, 09:59:02
Actually, that's how I found this site.  A mesh of Nouk's was needed for a TSR hair I was going to download.  I was looking around Nouk's site and found the TSR is sharing your info.  I'm fairly new to the sims game so it was a bit of an eye opener.  So thanks to Nouk for making great hair meshes and thanks to all of you for saving me some bucks.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Anouk on 2009 February 21, 13:59:18
That thing is an obvious attempt to recreate Agus's ponytail.
(http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/5087/29776981.jpg)

@ Lorikay: hurray :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Darqstar on 2009 February 21, 14:29:43
Wow, obviously Nouk is Redlendra's hero.  Their pictures are even remarkably similar.  It's just that Redlendra's  sucks, and Nouk's  is made of awesome. 


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2009 February 21, 14:33:35
That thing is an obvious attempt to recreate Agus's ponytail.
<snip>

Oooh - Ima go find that.  I hadn't seen it - gorgeous - and unlike string.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Eskimo Pie on 2009 February 21, 16:27:46
No one over at the tsr can make hair. Some of It looks good in previews but crap in game.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Devilfish on 2009 February 21, 16:52:14
Yeah, what's up with that? You'd think one of them would be able to make a decent looking hair mesh, but no, it's all crap. I mean, if Peggy and Rose can manage it...


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: oolongteadrinker on 2009 February 21, 17:32:40
Wow. TSR is still making wooden hair textures. Good to know some things never change. Blech.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: pinkyfriend on 2009 February 22, 00:46:08
bleh...it looks like the model didn't wash her hair for about 3 weeks then tried to style it...just really sad. Esp when compared to Nouk's soft & pretty hair.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Moonie on 2009 February 22, 02:27:41
I bet the people who wrote comments praising that crappy hair would almost die seeing Nouk's or agus's hair. ;)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Keksich on 2009 February 22, 15:58:58
Link to Nouk's hair please? I can't find it on her site...


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2009 February 22, 16:25:24
Link to Nouk's hair please? I can't find it on her site...

It's in the Crews Quarters right here.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: aeris on 2009 February 23, 03:18:25
Two identical tables, one pay, the other free:

OpenJackAss
(http://v7images.ibibi.com/127/127814.jpg)

Hydroxyde: http://www.hydroxide-studio.com/ (http://www.hydroxide-studio.com/)
(http://i44.tinypic.com/1zpptnl.jpg)

The free one is made by Mirraaj, who apparently suffer from a split personality disorder.
That leads him to open a new site under a new name and link it to his old one by proudly making them affiliates.
Epic fail, but still, it's free.




Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Moonie on 2009 February 23, 03:23:24
I love that dining set.  Thank you for the link.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Mirraaj on 2009 February 23, 07:37:40
Hey,

Regarding Hydroxide Studio:
It's not actually mine, but I am heavily involved.

All behind the scenes though, I know the person who owns and runs it, and I was involved with setting it up.

I have since left their technical team, to give Hydroxide a fresh chance that I'll never have.
I'm sorry that I've made ememies. But I am trying to reconcile and make friends again.

I'm also sorry I've acted to irrationally, but I'm going to be better now.

Thanks, and I hope you understand.

Mirraaj


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2009 February 23, 08:01:48
You can have a fresh chance, just own up to screwing up, be accountable for what you've done and go free, young one. We're not so unforgiving, just don't screw us over and laugh in our faces if you aren't serious. Then we will be very unforgiving.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Mirraaj on 2009 February 23, 08:08:03
I admit to all mistakes.
I also admit to being involved with Hydroxide Studio, but I don't own and run it.

Please believe me because Im tired of trying to prove stuff. :)

I'm not screwing  you over, but I also want younto understand that I do know the owner though.

Mirraaj.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2009 February 23, 08:32:49
OK, forgive the ignorance I'm about to show, but what is wrong with Hydroxide Studio? Is there something I've missed that I ought to be upset with? It's late and I'm very tired, so please bear with me.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: EmilyTwitch on 2009 February 23, 08:41:09
You can have a fresh chance, just own up to screwing up, be accountable for what you've done and go free, young one. We're not so unforgiving, just don't screw us over and laugh in our faces if you aren't serious. Then we will be very unforgiving.

What do you mean? I'm confused as well, I just searched through both sites and I have yet to see anything pay. Both policies talk about "free-site only" and the one for Mirraaj says that it is no longer associating with TSR at all.

Sounds like they already went free, and if that's the case, we should be celebrating!  :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: rum nate on 2009 February 23, 08:43:20
Well after what happened with out last celebration, we should probaly give it a little more wait time to read over everything and wait to see if something changes, just to be on the safe side.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Mirraaj on 2009 February 23, 09:19:54
Don't worry, I'm tired too.   :-\

But to clarify,
Somebody posted (for some reason(?)) that Hydroxide Studio was owned by me, Mirraaj/Mirraaj.com.

I just posted here saying that, no, I don't own it, but I was (and sort of still am) involved with it.
I know the person (personally) who owns Hydroxide Studio.

We wanted to keep this a secret since I have made a lot of mistakes and enemies around the community.
I just wanted what was best for him.

Regardless, now it's out in the open - And we hope this doesn't affect Hydroxide Studio's chance of success.

They are both free (I don't know how that came up), but they are.

-- Mirraaj.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: keirra on 2009 February 23, 09:54:33
As long as the sites are free, we have no beef with them/you.  :)

Thanks for clearing up the mistake about you owning it.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Mirraaj on 2009 February 23, 11:24:06
lol. That's fine.

--Mirraaj.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2009 February 23, 14:28:01
*passes over some rum* Welcome and thanks for clearing tat up for us.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: aeris on 2009 February 23, 19:20:27
I was the one who posted about it.
I just thought it was a little strange that the site layout was the same as Mirraaj.com. Plus, you got to admit that the set uploaded there looks really like the kind of sets you offer (same style, same presentation, even same extra deco objects). And since i saw that you signed the site presentation by your name there too, i supposed that both sites were owned by the same person.
But hey, it wasn't a criticism, only an observation.  ;)

Both sites are free so as far as i'm concerned, it's ok for me.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Mirraaj on 2009 February 23, 20:44:39
Yeah, both our names are Andrew which makes it look a little bit dodgy.  :-\

And as I said, I was involved with setting it up; web design, teaching some tricks of creation, even down to the hit counter which is the same.
Trust me; if I'd wanted to hide my ownership (If I did own it) it would have been covered up better.

Mirraaj. 


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: siberiansunset on 2009 February 23, 21:12:07
Hey Mirraaj  ;) As long as you're free you're cool with me! So welcome! *hands rum* I will have to check out your site sometime:) Anyways, see ya! :P


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2009 February 23, 21:53:00
I took a peek at your site, looks like you may have a folder of your own in my downloads folder for the game. :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: keirra on 2009 February 23, 22:04:28
Who cares? BOTH sites are FREE.

ETA: My response was in response to Sabian's post BEFORE he edited it. He accused Mirraaj of lying and gave some examples of why he thought he was lying.

@Sabian, it is in poor taste to completely change your post after someone has commented on it.  ::) I will have to remember to quote you in the future if I have a comment to your post.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Anouk on 2009 February 23, 22:11:34
Miraaj you don't have to sign each message with your name. Do you do that in face to face conversations?  :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2009 February 23, 22:14:36
Free is awesome and the only way to be, because it's in keeping with the spirit of the EULA and the fileshare friendly policy that was intended by the man/company that first published the game. Yay, FREE!!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2009 February 24, 00:10:55
What the hell do you mean, you're not going to be coming on here any more? I demand to know why!! You fit in well, you're funny as hell and we like you. So, nyah!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: siberiansunset on 2009 February 24, 00:26:11
 :o I agree! I enjoy your 2 cents Sabian! You make me lol. Don't leaveeee! *HUGZ*

 ( I do hope RL crap stops giving ya trouble  ;))


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Darqstar on 2009 February 24, 02:06:03
Can I third it?  Don't leave Sabian.   We need more men around here, it helps cut the bitchiness.  :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2009 February 24, 03:41:31
Get your put back here, Sabian - nao!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: oolongteadrinker on 2009 February 24, 17:15:30
*off topic* RL has become so complicated and stressful lately and it makes me so bloody tired all the time. Where I'm so tired I don't always seem to say the right thing in the right way anymore.

All the more reason to come here and vent at crappy payshit antics. So you're a little testy. (male slanted pun intended). So you say something in a way you don't intend now and then. Join the club. We'll laugh at you a little bit, but I like to think that at PMBD we (mostly) laugh with you.

... case in point, this whole thing made more sense in my head.

I saw the original and didn't think it was thaat mean. Or whatever. MUST HAVE COFFEE


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: eternal_darkness on 2009 February 24, 17:33:41
Sabian, I hear you; I'm getting my fair share of RL crap lately as well. People blow things out of proportion sometimes, that's just how it is  :P


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: eternal_darkness on 2009 February 24, 21:05:31
Fool proof stress relief:

Sims + room with no doors + buyable fire =  :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: keirra on 2009 February 24, 21:12:13
Glad you're feeling better Sabian. That's good news.

However, OMG I'm getting diabetes from all this sweet sappy stuff. Can we please to be stopping it nao?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Anouk on 2009 February 24, 21:22:10
*glomps keirra*


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Eskimo Pie on 2009 February 24, 23:41:07
Buyable fire? They make such a thing? :o Were have i been to miss out on such a score! Here I been making them grill hot dogs indoors all these years!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: siberiansunset on 2009 February 25, 02:05:43
Hmm I want buyable fire!  I would make smores ;)

Yea to your return Sabian :D *drink up rumz & coke!*


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Ashbashtus on 2009 February 25, 02:19:48
*Glomps Keirra, Noukie, and Sabian* ::)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: karin hoshi on 2009 February 25, 05:19:11
Here is buyable fire for anyone who wants it.       Clicky  :D (http://linna.modthesims2.com/download.php?t=253652)   

There are more but this is the newest one I found. 


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Devilfish on 2009 February 25, 14:02:07
Oh, and I quit smoking today! ;)

Oh, you're not done crying yet.  :D I'm about one month now and at the point where I would seriously concider GRILLING and EATING a goddamn baby if it meant I got to have a smoke. I wonder where I got that idea...

I mean... Good for you!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: TapThatBooty on 2009 February 26, 01:41:01
Oh, and I quit smoking today! ;)

Oh, you're not done crying yet.  :D I'm about one month now and at the point where I would seriously concider GRILLING and EATING a goddamn baby if it meant I got to have a smoke. I wonder where I got that idea...

I mean... Good for you!

Being a smoker myself, I applaud anyone who can stop. I tried to stop, but then I couldn't, plus, I'm no quitter  :P.

But good for the both of you, I really hope that the two of you can keep at it and kick the habbit for good.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: El Diablo on 2009 February 26, 02:22:09
Try hypnosis. Swear to Christ, I tried everything for ten years to quit. One day a friend asked me to go to a $20 per person stop-smoking hypnosis session at the Holiday Inn. I figured why not, what the hell. I quit that night and it was the easiest thing I ever did. That was 19 years ago when cigs were about $1 a pack. I was at about a pack and a half a day, so do the math. Talk about the best 20 bucks I ever spent.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: TapThatBooty on 2009 February 26, 15:17:35
It's about £5 a pack here in the UK, shocking like. Without even realising it, I have cut down, I wasn't actualy trying to, I just did, I was on about 15-20 a day, I've blamed it on something I call the "Chain Effect," where one person will light up, then all the other smokers light up, then about 10 minutes later, the process happens again. And I somehow have managed to get down to 5-10 a day, depending on what day of the week it is, Tuesdays and weekends being my few to non smoking days, Wednesday being my I'll smoke more as that is my long day in college and I tend to have a smoke on the way to my next class. At the moment RL stresses have taken over, so I'm not really ready to quit yet, as the few minutes I get to stand in the garden and look at the sea is great and gives me a bit of a break from things, when everything calms down again, then I will consider stopping.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: eternal_darkness on 2009 February 26, 15:59:26
Go to www.simwardrobe.com -> sims 2 -> objects -> other -> Incendiary bomb. Much better than buyable fire. I set this off at a wedding ( I had a bad day :P) and...yeah. I didn't save though ;)
 


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Pescado on 2009 February 27, 12:39:04
Mmm. Fireballing weddings. Brings back some old memories. Good times.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Anyerfillag on 2009 February 27, 18:00:23
(http://v7images.ibibi.com/scaled/1126/w-684h-650-1126767.jpg)

This TSR creation by sim_man123 which is pwned by this:

(http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4644/allsubs.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

A gorgeous flower set made by Macarossi, which you can find here (http://www.modthesims2.com/download.php?t=195044).


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: ooglafina on 2009 February 27, 18:05:31
Boy, it never ends does it? These comparisons are bad for my game because I always run right over and get the free example. Macarossi, here I come.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: karin hoshi on 2009 February 28, 06:25:13
-Ugly thing-
This TSR creation by sim_man123 which is pwned by this:

-Pretty free creation-

A gorgeous flower set made by Macarossi, which you can find here (http://www.modthesims2.com/download.php?t=195044).

What are those cactus doing in a "flower" pic? Or worst: What are does fugly "flower" things doing in the desert?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: cookiepirate on 2009 February 28, 13:34:51
-Ugly thing-
This TSR creation by sim_man123 which is pwned by this:

-Pretty free creation-

A gorgeous flower set made by Macarossi, which you can find here (http://www.modthesims2.com/download.php?t=195044).

What are those cactus doing in a "flower" pic? Or worst: What are does fugly "flower" things doing in the desert?

Not defending TSR fugly, but to answer your question, where I used to live in Texas, you would find wildflowers like that with cactus plants.  The flowers were usually what we called indian paintbrushes, black-eyed susans, buttercups and the state flower, the bluebonnet, to name a few.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SnarkyShark on 2009 February 28, 14:08:37
The TSR attempt is twiggy, unattractive, and looks like it was made by someone who only wanted to kick it out and get paid. Macarossi's flowers, on the other hand, are really lush and beautiful. And I'm not just saying that because foxgloves are one of my favorite perennials biennials plants that I buy that never ever come back.  -  :D (Thanks for the link Anyerfillag)



Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: crunk on 2009 February 28, 16:07:43
This monstrosity by Peggy
(http://i43.tinypic.com/1586sxw.jpg)

VS.

This mesh by Cassandre @ BPS
(http://i39.tinypic.com/20j456s.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: calalily on 2009 February 28, 17:30:38
Oooh - I just had to have that one back when she was at the house of evil - but I got it from Black Pearl (RSF at the time).

Direct link to it (http://www.blackpearlsims.com/showthread.php?t=20025)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: rum nate on 2009 February 28, 18:52:48
I love that, got to get it when I get my new computer. And I know the perfect house to put it in first.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: karin hoshi on 2009 March 01, 02:03:06


Not defending TSR fugly, but to answer your question, where I used to live in Texas, you would find wildflowers like that with cactus plants.  The flowers were usually what we called indian paintbrushes, black-eyed susans, buttercups and the state flower, the bluebonnet, to name a few.

Really?  I must get out more.Thanks for the info. :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2009 March 01, 02:58:06
Yeah, but if I'm not mistaken, desert flowers are actually really lush and vibrant while blooming?  Understand, I'm a temperate climate girl, never lived in a desert.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: cookiepirate on 2009 March 01, 05:55:34
The flowers usually do and for a short period, but cactus can grow just about anywhere.  I'm from the gulf coast area, and we had fields and fields of wildflowers with cacti growing all around.  And swarms of mosquitoes from all the bayous and bays.  The main reason that Texas has such a vast amount of wildflowers is because of Ladybird Johnson (http://www.wildflower.org/environmental_first_lady/) and her conservation efforts.  Not only in Texas, but the whole nation, actually.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Missbonbon on 2009 March 01, 17:57:03
I can't believe I missed that lamp! I must lurk more over at BPS now. More comparisons!

http://phorum.mustnotbenamed.com/index.php/topic,2347.0.html

Photobucket is being a bitch, but here is nouks lovely, long, curly pony tail. Animated very well in game too.

(http://www.simsconnection.com/simsfiles/screenshots/midsummersmall.jpg)

Sims connection crappy 2005-esque version.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Darqstar on 2009 March 01, 21:04:35
Is it me, or do the curls on that look like someone just glued curly ribbon to their heads?  I keep thinking it should be in a different color from the hair itself. 


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: siberiansunset on 2009 March 01, 21:15:12
I was thinking the same thing.  ;) lol Too bad I can't extract the "ribbons" for a gift I'm wrapping...damn that means I must go out! Blah.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: paperbeth on 2009 March 02, 21:23:44
I wanted to compare this to one of dot'd lamps, but I can't get on to tsr, and we've all seen her work. If you've seen 1 of dot's craptastic lamps, you've seen them all.

I think I would much rather have something like this for my sim's. It actually has some detail and texture, and pretty colors in the glass part. It even has a 'shape'.
(http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/oo20/paperbeth/15428_screen_cb1c3c5c263ea04d9c7648.jpg)
http://www.all4sims.de/board/filebase.php?fileid=5584&lim=15


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: El Diablo on 2009 March 06, 17:21:06
That St. Simwell lighting set is all gorgeous. I love the little ground-level garden lamp. These are going straight into my game. What a great site!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: oolongteadrinker on 2009 March 11, 02:12:02
ATS has made this set. Ho-hum. *sigh*
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/minrho/maj_099_big.jpg)

SO pwned by this WNF set by Adele. The pictures do not do it justice!
http://wickednoukfamily.com/forums/index.php?topic=1290.0
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/minrho/adele_moroccan_set.jpg)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2009 March 11, 02:14:36
I'll be offended for my great grandfather.  What the hell is that crap.  What is this assumption that Rom have mismatched furniture painted in cheap colours.  From everything I understand, they instead of a fondness for luxurious stuff that they tend to keep until its completely worn out - not cheap looking crap. *blechs*



Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: oolongteadrinker on 2009 March 11, 02:19:14
I'll be offended for my great grandfather.  What the hell is that crap.  What is this assumption that Rom have mismatched furniture painted in cheap colours.  From everything I understand, they instead of a fondness for luxurious stuff that they tend to keep until its completely worn out - not cheap looking crap. *blechs*


What are you talking about? When I think Romani I think eye-bleachy Ikea with knobs on everything!

eta: forgive me if I misspelled


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2009 March 11, 03:00:04
Yes, but ikea stuff is well made and matches.

and it would have helped if I'd used have instead of of, wouldn't it. :)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: ChaosInAMinor on 2009 March 11, 05:55:11
Hey! My entire bedroom is Ikea.

In my defense, I'm a college student. All of our furniture is Ikea or something we found on the street with the single exception of the dining table, which my roommate made in a furniture construction class (She's a film student, emphasis in set building). It's a pretty awesome table.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: neriana on 2009 March 11, 06:24:22
Yes, when I think "Gypsy" I think "eye-searing pastels" and "60s bead curtains".


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: oolongteadrinker on 2009 March 11, 15:50:19
Hey! My entire bedroom is Ikea.

In my defense, I'm a college student. All of our furniture is Ikea or something we found on the street with the single exception of the dining table, which my roommate made in a furniture construction class (She's a film student, emphasis in set building). It's a pretty awesome table.

I don't exactly dislike Ikea. It's not any better made or worse made than comparably priced things I've bought. I like the clean lines (and their kids stuff). But the set is just about as quote-unquote Gypsy as Ikea. That's what I see. Ikea makes boxes and pegs. Let's tart it up in trashy colors and add lotsa knobs. Its like putting a sari on Bill Gates. WTF?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: ooglafina on 2009 March 11, 16:12:38
I used to like Sandy's stuff, but once I found Adele the affair was over.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Darqstar on 2009 March 11, 16:42:32
That first set looks like "The Sims for Kindergarten Children!"  The bright colors and all.  It's not all that badly done, just the colors are godawful. But, bright, cheerful, godawful colors are often very popular at TSR.  I think though, the set should have been called, "If Toddlers Ruled the World."

The only thing I will say in defense of it though, is that they might have showed all the different colors, to be able to show all color options in one picture.  Remember, TSR only allows one set picture and then one picture for each object itself. 

The second set just looks elegant. 


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Office Rules on 2009 March 11, 16:59:30
It looks as if I need to spend more time at MTS2...sigh...my downloads folder is going to explode.Thanks for making this thread,I really had no idea how much great free stuff was out there until now.We need to send all the paysite whores this thread!
I really need to give some fangirl love to Nouk...I have quite a few of your hairs in my game and they are simply beuatiful.Thanks for making them...my sims are so much prettier now:)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2009 March 11, 17:20:18
I didn't know that, since I never uploaded at TSR, and extremely rarely have downloaded anything.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Darqstar on 2009 March 11, 17:25:05
I didn't know that, since I never uploaded at TSR, and extremely rarely have downloaded anything.

Wise of you.  There is a lot of fluffy, frou-frou at TSR.  I remember getting pissed about it once, and making a pinky-pink living room to test this theory.  Of course, it was quickly one of my most highly downloaded sets.  I was so happy when Paleoanth and I did the moderne kitchen set and were able to knock that set out of first place of my downloads.  The Moderne kitchen set was something I could be proud of.  And it didn't look like it was decorated by blowing up boxes of Klenex. 


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2009 March 11, 17:36:46
Isn't that annoying?  Making something to make a point and having that point completely missed?

Its in alot of ways worse then putting up something you made in 20 minutes and having it featured, while things you work weeks on gets overlooked.  Granted, I love that bloody CAS screen, but it didn't take me long to put together, once I realized I couldn't use pets or seasons while making it. :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Darqstar on 2009 March 11, 17:39:47
Isn't that annoying?  Making something to make a point and having that point completely missed?

Its in alot of ways worse then putting up something you made in 20 minutes and having it featured, while things you work weeks on gets overlooked.  Granted, I love that bloody CAS screen, but it didn't take me long to put together, once I realized I couldn't use pets or seasons while making it. :D

That's always how it seems to work.  The Pinkypink set was made after having made a wood set that was hardly noticed after spending weeks.  I think the pinkypink living room was done in a couple hours. 

At least it wasn't just taking slider bars and changing hue/saturation until everything went from the color it was to pink.  I actually, like made new textures and stuff! 


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2009 March 11, 18:23:42
I'll admit, I usually don't do fresh textures - I'm better at meshing then texture [ though I suppose I could hand do a texture then scan it and clean it up...] I do however carefully select bits and do different things to different parts, and use multiply, overlay and sliders combined.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: oolongteadrinker on 2009 March 11, 19:02:06
It looks as if I need to spend more time at MTS2...sigh...my downloads folder is going to explode.Thanks for making this thread,I really had no idea how much great free stuff was out there until now.We need to send all the paysite whores this thread!
I really need to give some fangirl love to Nouk...I have quite a few of your hairs in my game and they are simply beuatiful.Thanks for making them...my sims are so much prettier now:)
Amen. Before I discovered Nouk, I had *hundreds* if not thousands of hair files that were weird colors, complicated, and non-animated. AND they were ridiculously high poly. Now I've seen the light, and download simple hairs that move, have great textures, and way less polys.

My computer is on its last legs. Why torture it needlessly? But even if I got a supernew powerful computer I wouldn't go back to my old ways.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: De on 2009 March 12, 05:00:31
I didn't know that, since I never uploaded at TSR, and extremely rarely have downloaded anything.

Wise of you.  There is a lot of fluffy, frou-frou at TSR.  I remember getting pissed about it once, and making a pinky-pink living room to test this theory.  Of course, it was quickly one of my most highly downloaded sets.  I was so happy when Paleoanth and I did the moderne kitchen set and were able to knock that set out of first place of my downloads.  The Moderne kitchen set was something I could be proud of.  And it didn't look like it was decorated by blowing up boxes of Klenex. 

Hey Darq, all of my stuff was fluffy, frou-frou, pinky-pink, girly-girl, blown up klenex box stuff and you said you liked it. Did you lie to me? ;D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paleoanth on 2009 March 12, 12:33:17
I beg to differ, De.  Your stuff is feminine and classy.  That is not the same as frou-frou. 


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Darqstar on 2009 March 12, 13:37:52


Hey Darq, all of my stuff was fluffy, frou-frou, pinky-pink, girly-girl, blown up klenex box stuff and you said you liked it. Did you lie to me? ;D

No it it wasn't.  You used a lot of bold, contrasting colors.  You used reds and blacks.  The lines on your meshes were clean and sleek.  I never saw a room that you did that was one color.  You know the type of rooms I mean, you were at TSR for how long? Those rooms where even the shadows on the items were one color, like pink.  You decorate more like I would, if I didn't furnish my apartment in Early American Garage Sale. 

I didn't lie to you.  I was always envious as hell of your talent.  I still am.  If I could steal it, I would.  Same with Paleoanth.  I'd sneak out to where both of you lived and late at night, I would steal your talent, while you slept.  Like a ninja!  :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: HugeLunatic on 2009 March 12, 15:55:26


Hey Darq, all of my stuff was fluffy, frou-frou, pinky-pink, girly-girl, blown up klenex box stuff and you said you liked it. Did you lie to me? ;D

No it it wasn't.  ...<snip>... 

I agree. I've recolored your stuff, and I don't do frou-frou. Your stuff is awesome.  The meshes lend themselves to multiple colors and patterns. (lets just ignore the pink poodles that are one of my top downloads)  ;)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Darqstar on 2009 March 12, 16:48:00
(lets just ignore the pink poodles that are one of my top downloads)  ;)

Little girls looove to play the Sims.  That explains the popularity of a lot of downloads. 


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Scurvy Cat on 2009 March 12, 17:31:51
Has anyone else seen this at MTS2?

Okay, so, turns out that when I said I didn't think we'd lost any data, I was incorrect.

The primary drive from chii had a ton of read write errors on it - so much so that currently all downloads past mid-october last year (when the server was first setup - remember, we moved servers back then) are basically toast.

The backup drive has so many read write errors on it that it wont even boot the machine with it plugged in and it just goes to kernel panic mode.

As it stands I have managed to recover most downloads prior to Mid-October last year (some 127gb worth), but anything after attachmentid 826742 is gone. I am not entirely convinced that *all* downloads prior to then are intact and am investigating further to see how many prior to that date are ok.

Suffice to say I am extremely annoyed at the situation and beleive that there may be some other hardware issue on Chii becuase to have 2 drives fail so utterly is extremely rare.

I'm going to see if there is a way of getting the primary drive looked at professionally to see if we can recover any more data, but right now it's not looking hopeful.


I'll bet Thomas is laughing his fat petty bourgeois a$$ off.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: redisenchanted on 2009 March 12, 17:39:13
I saw that. It certainly sucks. OTH, maybe a good cleansing will help. Just trying to find the silver lining here.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: ooglafina on 2009 March 12, 17:45:12
I just reinstalled my game last night and I can't CEP back from there. I won't be able to see Adele's nice furniture for a while.

That gypsy set earlierl, was that from Around the Sims? It said ATS and I thought the screenshot looked like her Sims 1 camera angles that she likes. If not *shame*. Someone should compare it to Parsimonious' gypsy kitchen set. I'm too lazy.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: redisenchanted on 2009 March 12, 17:56:42
I actually like the ATS set, even gushed over it a bit  When I went to download it though, I was really disappointed that the entire bedroom was pay. She seems to be adding more and more donation only items. I always thought of her as one of the less evil paysite owners. She's still no Thomas or Peggy, but she is moving in the wrong direction.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2009 March 12, 18:03:23
Ooglafina, what EP are you up to? I'm thinking that now might be the time where we have to band together and upload various versions of the CEP to Media Fire or something. Not in order to detract from MTS 2 or anything, but as a way for players to be able to use their content. They could come down once they get afloat again. What do you guys think?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: crunk on 2009 March 12, 18:13:01
I hope that whatever fixes they need to do can improve server speed/conectivity - I've been having trouble downloading anything from MTS for at least a month. Silver lining, here we come! :)

In other news, I don't have the CEP installer but I do have the Scriptorium, the Lot Adjuster, Delphy's Download Organizer, and the Multi-sims2pack installer if anyone needs them.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: redisenchanted on 2009 March 12, 18:17:46
Ooglafina, what EP are you up to? I'm thinking that now might be the time where we have to band together and upload various versions of the CEP to Media Fire or something. Not in order to detract from MTS 2 or anything, but as a way for players to be able to use their content. They could come down once they get afloat again. What do you guys think?

I'm pretty sure that the last version of CEP is good for all game configs.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: ooglafina on 2009 March 12, 18:29:56
I have v. 9.0 (beta). It says that it is installed and I forgot that it is a program itself. The file in the Downloads folder is gone, so I'm not sure if it will work or not without it. I always just reinstalled it to make sure before. I think that sounds like a great idea, putting those utility programs in a safe place. I went to SimPE and there is alot of stuff about how no one is allowed to post it anywhere but MTS2. I guess they assumed it would never fall apart. Would that piss off Numenor? You could email and ask I suppose.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Anyerfillag on 2009 March 12, 18:50:17
Its very very sad to see MTS2 in the gutter; 5 months lost is a ton of uploads. Would this mean no more BabyBBQ and the 'Waaah!' posts? Shame :D

I suspect we might also see some wank as well. Could be explosive!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2009 March 12, 19:12:15
*puts on her tinfoil hat*
Quote
becuase to have 2 drives fail so utterly is extremely rare.

Hrmmmmmm - makes you wonder.  Who do we know in the community who does ddos attacks and attaches tracking devices to their downloads?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2009 March 12, 19:21:37
I can't use the latest version of the CEP, it gave me game crashies big time. So, I dug out the older version that I had stored on another computer and used that instead. I think it came from the extra content files that Numenor had in there, but I've not had any problems since.

ETA: I did some digging and found THIS (http://www.numenor-moddings.com/CEP_Windows-AutoInstaller.htm), which is a link to Numenor Moddings, where the CEP can be obtained. It's a small site and won't be able to take much traffic, but it will get you what you need. Just keep on clicking the button that says "spoiler" until you get a link, click it and the download will pop up for you.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: siberiansunset on 2009 March 12, 20:24:13
Wow, I hate to hear that MTS2 is having a shit time with their drives. Man... I thought they were just doing routine stuff, I had no idea it was this serious. I hope they can get things going again. (that's gonna be a freaking hefty bill to have those drives looked at professionally-to try and recover the data.)   I am sure the community will come out of the woodwork ( as well as the creators) to restore anything lost, in the event there is no recovering.

I'm glad I went on my MTS2 dling spree before this happened!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: ooglafina on 2009 March 12, 20:51:05
Got the CEP back. I saw that on his MTS2 page but my adblocker was screwing it up. I finally turned it off and got it.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: De on 2009 March 13, 02:56:32
Taking things slightly off topic again, sorry
I beg to differ, De.  Your stuff is feminine and classy.  That is not the same as frou-frou. 

No it it wasn't.  You used a lot of bold, contrasting colors.  You used reds and blacks.  The lines on your meshes were clean and sleek.  I never saw a room that you did that was one color.  You know the type of rooms I mean, you were at TSR for how long? Those rooms where even the shadows on the items were one color, like pink.  You decorate more like I would, if I didn't furnish my apartment in Early American Garage Sale. 

I didn't lie to you.  I was always envious as hell of your talent.  I still am.  If I could steal it, I would.  Same with Paleoanth.  I'd sneak out to where both of you lived and late at night, I would steal your talent, while you slept.  Like a ninja!  :D


I agree. I've recolored your stuff, and I don't do frou-frou. Your stuff is awesome.  The meshes lend themselves to multiple colors and patterns. (lets just ignore the pink poodles that are one of my top downloads)  ;)

You guys are sweet, thank you. Darq, no need to steal, you have plenty of talent of your own.

As far as MTS goes, I hope every thing will be ok with them. They were my very first sims site and where I learned how to do everything sims. I would hate to see them go down like this.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: neriana on 2009 March 13, 06:47:49
MTS2 has had database issues and server meltdowns before. I'm sure it'll be fine.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: rum nate on 2009 March 13, 06:50:28
But neriana, has it been to this extent before?

I'm hoping the best for them. There have been some really great uploads in the past few months, too many good ones to loose. But I'm sure sooner or later they will get this fixed, and everything back up.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Canoodle on 2009 March 14, 06:09:37
We're busily reattaching the files manually. It may be a while, but we'll get there! Thanks for the support everyone. :)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: CatOfWar on 2009 March 14, 06:36:55
The mods are manually reattaching some files, ones donated by downloaders.  Creators can replace their own files without the need for mods to do it manually.  Delphy got the server back online and made a list of all the files that got toasted by hardware failure, so we all know exactly what needs to be reuploaded.  If enough creators replace their own stuff in the next few days, the damage shouldn't be that bad.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: oolongteadrinker on 2009 March 14, 20:19:59
The mods are manually reattaching some files, ones donated by downloaders.  Creators can replace their own files without the need for mods to do it manually.  Delphy got the server back online and made a list of all the files that got toasted by hardware failure, so we all know exactly what needs to be reuploaded.  If enough creators replace their own stuff in the next few days, the damage shouldn't be that bad.

All hail the recovering and hopefully stronger MTS2!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Amadeus Rexor on 2009 March 17, 11:14:30
I just finished reading through this entire thread, in one sitting — it took me five hours.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Tabby on 2009 March 17, 11:17:21
Um, congratulations?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Amadeus Rexor on 2009 March 17, 11:37:40
Thank you.

After such a hefty investment of time and effort, I felt I owed myself some sort of acknowledgment. Admittedly, not a very good 'first post'.


On the topic of sub-par sets getting more attention than quality efforts, I found this oh so lovely collection of carpets, but what what caught my eye was the tag line across the top of the image...

(http://v7images.ibibi.com/scaled/1120/w-836h-650-1120359.jpg)

Anyone else think that it perfectly captures the Orwellian mindset of most paysiters?


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2009 March 17, 11:52:40
That purple carpet whole set looks like a flowery knock off of one Gelydh did a long time ago. Except Gelydh's textures were a hell of a lot better.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Darqstar on 2009 March 17, 14:30:15
This set? 

(http://s5.tinypic.com/25s6ck6.jpg)

(Above can be found here (http://www.clubcrimsyn.com/))

This also makes the original post a proper "Free vs. Pay" post now.   ;D 


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Alexia on 2009 March 17, 19:06:48
Looks like Padre princess has been allowed to unleash his "emo"-ness on TSR. Anybody else loving the oh-so-subtle attemps of T$Rians to copy GOS? Maybe they think they'll get the cool kids like that... Too bad the Goslings do it better and for free. Go team Dumbass T$R! Another Fail...


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2009 March 17, 19:40:47
All TSR seems capable of doing these days is coping poorly stuff already done for free and better.  There are still one or two exceptions, but that seems to be a dwindling number.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: kenmtl on 2009 March 18, 01:34:07
La Princess de Padre can't seem to decide what the fuck he his. pfffttt Emo boy.
I want Superfly back. He be a badass muthafucker.

P.S. Nice try with the carpets. You seem particularly attached to Gelydh's work.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: neriana on 2009 April 06, 06:16:23
Charging for carpets seems to be the hot new thing among TSR FAs. Izazu has some upcoming "berber carpets" that probably took her about half an hour to make. 5 minutes to find the texture online, 10 minutes to load Homecrafter, 1 minute per carpet color, and the rest of the time trying to figure out how to spell "berber".

Meanwhile, McAlli at MTS2 made lots of lovely carpets: http://www.modthesims2.com/download.php?t=300007

And, hey, you lazy, greedy TSR goons, I can tell exactly how long it takes to make carpets because I made about a bajillion of them. (http://www.illusionsofgrandeur-ts2.com/wallsets.html) (Scroll past other peoples' awesome stuffeths if you want to see them.)

I'm not trying to advertise my own crap -- it just makes me so goddamn mad to see people spend money on stuff they could make for themselves in 15 minutes. And the TSR FAs claim this stuff takes artistic talent (I have none) and so much time (one obsessed weekend) and energy (sitting on your ass in front of the computer) and omg they're not appreciated (pfft). Yeah, it takes time to get floors to look right, but throwing pretentious artiste fits because you can copy and paste a texture is fucking ridiculous.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: SoggyFox on 2009 April 06, 11:51:12
If they don't just steal them from McAlli instead.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2009 April 06, 17:46:44
Neriana, I have your carpets and I lurves them lots! Same with your bedding, and Reyn's. Hope you guys don't mind being given the good word in the WCIF's that I answer...


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: neriana on 2009 April 06, 17:50:13
If they don't just steal them from McAlli instead.

Yeah, I thought some of her things looked awfully similar to Izazu's "new" carpets, but then, they're carpets, so it's hard to tell. They aren't as unique as, say, planters.

Paden: happy to hear it :).


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Darqstar on 2009 April 06, 19:25:05
I like your carpets too, Neriana. 

Although, whenever someone talks about how fast it is to make floors/walls, I remember the floor I worked on for over eight hours.  Of course, once I was finished, I realized my mistakes and the next time I made a similar floor, it took me only a couple hours.  But yeah, walls and floors are usually pretty easy to make.  And sometimes the plainest walls look the best.

I just wish Maxis had put more trim on their walls.  They did a lot of painted walls with no kick or crown trim and that irritates me, because I've never been in a place that didn't at least have kick trim. And even in my crappy  ancient apartment we have kick and crown. 

I know, I should just shut up and add it myself.  But then it shows up as custom and sometimes it's irritating wadding through nine million custom wallpapers.

I always thought that if EAxis were smart, they would have done the trim as separate pieces that snapped to fit over walls.  That way, instead of having to come out with so many of the same color wall, but with different trim combinations, they could just say, "Here it is.  Flowered wallpaper.  You want white beadboard wainscotting?  You add it yourself." 


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2009 April 06, 20:06:20
But Darq, that makes too much sense and so they'd never go for it...


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Darqstar on 2009 April 06, 20:16:49
But Darq, that makes too much sense and so they'd never go for it...

Actually, with the ability to be able to move stuff up and down the walls, and the way we can stick more than one object to a wall, if I had talent with meshing I'd do it.  Make the molding to be just like paintings.  Put them on the wall, raise and lower to your perfect position!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: paperbeth on 2009 April 06, 20:28:58
I like your carpets too, Neriana. 

Although, whenever someone talks about how fast it is to make floors/walls, I remember the floor I worked on for over eight hours.  Of course, once I was finished, I realized my mistakes and the next time I made a similar floor, it took me only a couple hours.  But yeah, walls and floors are usually pretty easy to make.  And sometimes the plainest walls look the best.

I just wish Maxis had put more trim on their walls.  They did a lot of painted walls with no kick or crown trim and that irritates me, because I've never been in a place that didn't at least have kick trim. And even in my crappy  ancient apartment we have kick and crown. 

I know, I should just shut up and add it myself.  But then it shows up as custom and sometimes it's irritating wadding through nine million custom wallpapers.

I always thought that if EAxis were smart, they would have done the trim as separate pieces that snapped to fit over walls.  That way, instead of having to come out with so many of the same color wall, but with different trim combinations, they could just say, "Here it is.  Flowered wallpaper.  You want white beadboard wainscotting?  You add it yourself." 

I wish I had a nickel for everytime I have thought the exact same thing. I have a gazillion wallpapers that I never use because they don't have any trim. Most of them will only work in ultra modern buildings. I usually build fairly traditional looking houses and they require kick and crown molding.
I DLed Homecrafter, thinking I could just change them myself, but I can't get the damn thing to even start up. So much for that idea.

There are separate trim pieces (3 dimensional) that came with one of the EP's, but I can't remember which one. They're not very useful though. They're too bulky for most rooms and don't match well with very many styles. I think they're fug.

It seems to me that it would have been much simpler to make different (2 dimensional) trims an option on all wall coverings.
But what do I know? I'm only a player.  :P

Actually, with the ability to be able to move stuff up and down the walls, and the way we can stick more than one object to a wall, if I had talent with meshing I'd do it.  Make the molding to be just like paintings.  Put them on the wall, raise and lower to your perfect position!

That is a fantastic idea. Someone, please do that!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: neriana on 2009 April 06, 20:46:13
Separate kick moldings, crowns and half-wall crowns by MaryLou and Numenor here (http://www.modthesims2.com/download.php?t=181834).


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: paperbeth on 2009 April 06, 21:31:21
Wow, those are awesome. Must have them. Thanks for the link neriana.  ;D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Paden on 2009 April 06, 22:21:59
Neriana wins chocolate and rum for that find! :D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: iPixelen on 2009 April 06, 23:04:17
Some rather delightful subscriber wings from TSR -

(http://v7images.ibibi.com/scaled/295/w-534h-570-295397.jpg)

vs. free wings for pretty much all ages from SynapticSim at MTS2, which you can combine with another free download to get your sims to actually fly.

(http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr156/IncontinencePixelen/MTS2_SynapticSim_882208_Syns_Wings_.jpg)

So sorry, TS2, you got pwned.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: pinkyfriend on 2009 April 06, 23:44:25
I DLed Homecrafter, thinking I could just change them myself, but I can't get the damn thing to even start up. So much for that idea.

Did you dl homecrafter from the EA site? That one never works for me! I'll look for the link where I dl it from at SapphireSims. You have to register but of course it is free.
This one always works for me every time I do a re-install...as far as I know it is the one decent thing that noeidog ever did :P and puppetfish is sweet enough to share it.

ETA: here is the link http://www.sapphiresims2.com/showthread.php?t=35933


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: paperbeth on 2009 April 07, 01:53:23
I DLed Homecrafter, thinking I could just change them myself, but I can't get the damn thing to even start up. So much for that idea.

Did you dl homecrafter from the EA site? That one never works for me! I'll look for the link where I dl it from at SapphireSims. You have to register but of course it is free.
This one always works for me every time I do a re-install...as far as I know it is the one decent thing that noeidog ever did :P and puppetfish is sweet enough to share it.

ETA: here is the link http://www.sapphiresims2.com/showthread.php?t=35933

Many thanks. I'm downloading it now, so we'll see what happens.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dstar on 2009 April 07, 13:57:43
Thank you this is lovely - the cruddy TSR one always told me I didnt' have enough space on my hard drive - uihhh 4GB RAM- 500 GB HD  and nothing running except my textures folder and Homecrafter -wrong- TSRHomecrafter you fail!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Scurvy Cat on 2009 April 07, 16:11:03
TSR does a Homecrafter version? 


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Darqstar on 2009 April 07, 17:18:31
TSR does a Homecrafter version? 

They didn't make it, they just have a copy of it that people can DL. 


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dstar on 2009 April 07, 18:12:07
And it is fail- big big fail


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: pinkyfriend on 2009 April 07, 23:15:57
 ;D The one from SS2 still takes forfuckinever to load (at least mine does lol) but at least it DOES work!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dstar on 2009 April 08, 17:45:41
I have not tried it yet- I am lot inspired this week not wall/floor inspired though when I finish the lot if I don't like any of the pretty new free walls and floors I have d/ld I will pop open Homecrafter and make my own.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: keirra on 2009 April 08, 21:28:50
Have you tried DJ Sims WTF Editor (http://forum.jfade.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=59)? From what I understand, it does the same thing Homecrafter does, but has a cooler name.  ;D


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Scurvy Cat on 2009 April 08, 21:52:09
No, WTF doesn't allow you to turn .bmp/.jpg files into new walls.  You can reprice, reclassify, and change the sound of walls you've got--as well as a few other things--but you can't make new walls with it.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dstar on 2009 April 08, 21:52:16
Have you tried DJ Sims WTF Editor (http://forum.jfade.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=59)? From what I understand, it does the same thing Homecrafter does, but has a cooler name.  ;D

 Edit it will help to change all the 1$ walls and floors from other creators that make my sims whine about the cheapness (damned fortune sims) Thank you for the suggestions- I will definitely try it- Homecrafter is stupid on my computer- at least it was last time I tried- either way when I get around to it I will share the pretties over on the Look What I made Thread.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: neriana on 2009 April 08, 21:58:12
Cheap walls and floors drive me nuts. It's not like money is hard to make in the game, and if one wants to cheat, there's always motherlode.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: keirra on 2009 April 08, 22:26:35
No, WTF doesn't allow you to turn .bmp/.jpg files into new walls.  You can reprice, reclassify, and change the sound of walls you've got--as well as a few other things--but you can't make new walls with it.

I didn't realize that. Thanks for the clarification.  :)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2009 April 08, 22:31:13
Cheap walls and floors drive me nuts. It's not like money is hard to make in the game, and if one wants to cheat, there's always motherlode.

I find myself agreeing with this sentiment every single time I play. There are only so many things that should be cheap. Like Aikea's Wall Overlays (considering most of them are supposed to be drawings), some clutter items (like garbage bags), or a really crappy wallpaper that looks like you put it up yourself. I hate finding something that should be really cheap cost $4,000 dollars and something that should be really expensive cost $2. It begs the question: For the love of God, WHY?! ::sob::


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: neriana on 2009 April 08, 22:35:50
Cheap walls and floors drive me nuts. It's not like money is hard to make in the game, and if one wants to cheat, there's always motherlode.

I find myself agreeing with this sentiment every single time I play. There are only so many things that should be cheap. Like Aikea's Wall Overlays (considering most of them are supposed to be drawings), some clutter items (like garbage bags), or a really crappy wallpaper that looks like you put it up yourself. I hate finding something that should be really cheap cost $4,000 dollars and something that should be really expensive cost $2. It begs the question: For the love of God, WHY?! ::sob::

Because, sadly, many creators don't play the game. I've gotten to the point where I'll only download statues and painting meshes if I absolutely adore them, because nine times out of ten I have to open the files in SimPE and make them expensive. Which is a pain in the butt.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dstar on 2009 April 08, 22:38:16
I don't often find that to be a problem at freesites- Guardigan (whose wallpapers I love) and Kate and SalixTree  at Parsims don't have that problem to often (though they do have a Moroccan style bed that is 1$ in the game- gorgeous but God Help You if you put it in a Sims house they freak ), but when I was downloading at TSR - it was a major problem- now other than a few free creators (which I have now shortened to freeators in many posts ) I just make my own its more fun and I don't have to deal with changing it. (I can't type for shit tonight).


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Darqstar on 2009 April 08, 22:53:06
Cheap walls and floors drive me nuts. It's not like money is hard to make in the game, and if one wants to cheat, there's always motherlode.

I used to make walls priced about the same as the walls in the game, but people actually bitched that they wanted cheap walls so that when they're starting out, before the money rolls in.  I thought about doing two sets of the same walls for people, but that starts to get redundant. 

Anyone who ever complained about the price to me, I was more than willing to change it for them by editing it in Homecrafter. 

I always thought the game should have given more money to start out with, then cut down the salaries once you're moved in.   It's like you start out in a room the size of a flea but within a few days, your Sim has enough to buy a castle.  I'd rather have enough money to start out somewhat okay, and then things get better slowly. 


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: dstar on 2009 April 08, 23:14:02
I agree- and I would never ever ever complain about free walls- when I have to pay for them it is another story- classy and elegant walls should be priced appropriately-


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: pickles on 2009 April 08, 23:16:51
The way I figure it, painted walls are cheap. Wallpaper and paint with mouldings are more expensive, and so forth. then again, I play walls-down because I don't trust my sims (they are little bastards) so I don't notice if they still have drywall on the inside.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: neriana on 2009 April 08, 23:45:10
I always thought the game should have given more money to start out with, then cut down the salaries once you're moved in. 

I agree with this. That's one thing I like about Apartment Life, it makes "starting out" more realistic. Of course, rent is cheaper than it is irl, and it's still too easy to become ridiculously wealthy, but at least you're not expected to be able to afford a house right out of college.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: pinkyfriend on 2009 April 11, 07:21:14
While I'm not saying that these vases by Shakeshit are particularly ugly

(http://i43.tinypic.com/14nfloy.jpg)

why pay for them when you can get these pretties from Parsimonious for FREE

(http://i40.tinypic.com/2u8kpzq.jpg)

Also, is it just me or do these 'new' vases at t$r have a very similar shape as the older parsimonious pots??!!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: CatOfWar on 2009 April 11, 08:33:29
How To Compare Two Meshes

Also, is it just me or do these 'new' vases at t$r have a very similar shape as the older parsimonious pots??!!
Similar shape wouldn't be surprising, vases are vase shaped.  However, as you pointed out, this is Shakeshaft.  So it may be worth taking a look at these in MilkShape (check the mesh) and LithUnwrap (check the UV map).  Here is a quick step by step.  You do not need to be a creator or mesher to follow these steps.

1) Download and install SimPE (http://sims.ambertation.de/), MilkShape (http://chumbalum.swissquake.ch/), demon's Extended Manual Edit plugin (http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=139859), and wes_h's Unimesh plugins (http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=122399) for MilkShape.

2) Extract the mesh from the package file.  Mesh extraction is covered in the Unimesh 1 tutorial (http://www.modthesims2.com/wiki.php?title=Tutorials:Unimesh_1_-_New_Mesh_Basics) on MTS2, but here are the steps in brief.

* Open the package file with SimPE.
* You will see a list of resources on left.  Look for the line with GMDC in it, click it.
* In the middle panel, you will see a GMDC resource line, right click that.
* In the right click menu, select Export and save your mesh as a *.5gd file.
* Exit SimPE.

Now do the same for the 2nd mesh that you want to compare your 1st mesh to.

(http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww82/CatOfWar/w1simpe.jpg?t=1239439371)

3) Open the mesh file in MilkShape.

* Run MilkShape.
* Before you open any files, click the Groups tab and make sure "autosmooth" is NOT checked.
* Before you open any files, click the Joints tab and make sure "show skeleton" is NOT checked.
* In the File menu, select Import, then select Sims2 Unimesh Import.
* You will now see a mesh.  In the blue colored viewport, in the lower right, right click and select "colored groups".

Now that you can see your first mesh, let's import your second mesh so you can compare them.

* File menu, Import again.  MilkShape will complain abou importing one model on top of another, don't worry about it, it will be fine, just do it.

Your two meshes will be shown in different colors, since you did "colored groups".  You can turn off colored groups if you just want them to be grey.  You can also show or hide each mesh individually.  Go to the groups tab, select a mesh group, and press the Hide button to hide/show it.

(http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww82/CatOfWar/w2milkshape.jpg?t=1239439429)

4) Check if one mesh is a copy of the other.  Do they look identical?
If so, take screen caps, then double check the numbers with Extended Manual Edit.

You check for identical vertices, normals, and UV coordinates.
If you're not a mesher and don't know what those are, don't worry.
I'll explain briefly, but what matters is that they are numbers and you're checking
to see if they're identical.  You do this with demon's Extended Manual Edit plugin.

* In the Model tab, click the Select button.
* In the groups tab, make sure both meshes are visible, use the Hide button to show them both.
* In any of the grey panels with wireframes, hold down the left mouse button and drag to select some vertices (dots).
You will see selected vertices turn from white to red.  It may be easiest to select just one pair of vertices, one vertex from each mesh.
* Click the Vertex menu in MilkShape, then select Extended Manual Edit.
* In the Extended Manual Edit dialog, you will see a some buttons in the top left.
Make sure the ones marked XYZ, Normals, and UV are all clicked down.
If you are looking at a clothes mesh or an object that moves, you may also want to click Bones and Bone Names.
* In the Extended Manual Edit dialog, you will see a bunch of numbers.  Check if they're identical for the two meshes.

* Vertices are the "dots" in the wireframe pictures of the mesh.  Each vertex has x,y,z coordinates, that's a set of three numbers.

* Think of normals as little pins stuck into the mesh, like a pincushion.  They are like arrows that point out from the surface of the mesh.  They control how light reflects off the mesh.  Each vertex has a normal vector, that's a set of three numbers.

* Each vertex is assigned a location on the texture.  This is done with UV coordinates, that's two numbers.

* If the mesh is for clothing or an object that moves, it has a skeleton.  Each vertex gets bone weights that control how that vertex moves when the clothing or object animates.  Bones and bone weights are a set of up to six numbers.

(This is just an example, I used identical meshes, this is not anyone's stolen mesh.)
(http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww82/CatOfWar/w3extended.jpg?t=1239439689)

5) Compare the UV maps.  Do they look the same?  If so, take screen caps,
and double check the UV numbers with Extended Manual Edit.

The UV map determines how a texture is "wrapped" onto a mesh.  UV maps can be displayed as images and quickly compared that way.  There's an MTS2 tutorial (http://www.modthesims2.com/wiki.php?title=Tutorials:Exporting_UV_Maps_for_Better_Clothing_Recolours_(Upd2009)) about how to save a UV map image, but here's a quick and simple way to see the UV map in MilkShape.

* In the Groups tab, select the mesh group you want to see the UV map for.  Use the Hide button to show the group, then Select to select it, it will turn all red.
* In the Materials group, press the New button, then the topmost <none> button.  Select some image file to use as a texture.  Click the Assign button.
* Now, press CTRL-T to show the UV map editor window.
* In the UV map editor window, there is a dropdown list, select the mesh group you want to see the UV map of.

(http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww82/CatOfWar/w4uv.jpg?t=1239439518)


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Anouk on 2009 April 13, 01:29:15
While I'm not saying that these vases by Shakeshit are particularly ugly

snappy

why pay for them when you can get these pretties from Parsimonious for FREE

snippy

Also, is it just me or do these 'new' vases at t$r have a very similar shape as the older parsimonious pots??!!

Number 4 from TSR looks the same as number 5 from Para, number 2 and 3 from TSR  looks the same as number 4 from Para, although the Para ones look slightly slimmer.
Did shakeshaft use and credit their mesh, or is it offered as if she made it herself?  Someone wanna check them out, I would but I'm not at home...


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: pinkyfriend on 2009 April 13, 03:30:56
I don't have simPE or milkshape installed & have been gone to family thing all day or I would try. Thought someone might be interested, but no big deal if not. On t$r she seems to be claiming the meshes as her own. I certainly didn't see any credit given. But they may be her own & just be very similar...just seems with her recent history I would put nothing past her!


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Anouk on 2009 April 13, 13:27:00
Also important is to know if the vases were modified from a game mesh. If they were made from scratch and have the same shape and vertice count and such, it's alot more supicious.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: kenmtl on 2009 April 13, 14:09:42
In a general view they're different sizes and the insides are different. The only thing that seems similar is the overall shape. I didn't look too closely. I have those same basic pot shapes in game from different people. So meh.


Title: Re: Free Content Pwns Paysite Crap
Post by: Eskimo Pie on 2009 April 13, 14:43:32

   well we all know shakeshafts is an outright thief but she does steal others ideas too...

 Just look at Parismonios gypsy set that has been up for a really long time


(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f11/littletoes30/sbrcarefree_caravan.jpg)


 that goes up and not too long after so does this terrible look a like

(http://v7images.ibibi.com/scaled/100/w-570h-384-100709.jpg)


so she obviously gets her "inspiration"  from others